He didn't trash the avengers as a movie. He just said that the cinematography wasn't upto standards (which let's face it was one of it's weaknesses). In fact, if anything he put his own Batman films under the microscope calling them movies about "a guy in a rubber suit". There's no Marvel/DC war going on here.
But he’s right, Seamus McGarvey is much better than he shows in The Avengers. But that’s also because they were told they’d need to light a certain way for the 3D. Look at what he’s done with Godzilla or Bad Times at the El Royale. Both amazing looking, completely different feeling films.
I've had the pleasure to work with Wally a couple of times and it's pretty surreal watching someone who's so good at what they do, actually do it. In terms of great DPs, Wally's gotta be up there with Deakins, Janusz Kaminski and Matt Libatique.
What makes Nolan special is that he is able to work with skilled and talented people in such a way that they are able to bring their best to the picture. He is a "director", a manager and leader. I think that it is in this he succeeds. There are equally good directors (and better) out there, but Nolan has been able to achieve similar quality in movies with arguably a lot less experience than the masters. His cinematographer is just one of the many skilled and talented people he works with.
THIS GUY was the cinematographer for the second best movie I have seen in 38 years. Inception is topped only by Star Wars of course. This guy deserves some PROPS!!!!!! AND KUDOS!!!!!!!
It's exciting to see a time in modern film where certain filmmakers are doing their best to show studios that if allowed one can make a bigger budget movie with commercial appeal that DOES NOT have to be dumbed down to be successful. That a portion of the audience are desperate for challenging and authentic storytelling on a grand scale. 2022 being a phenomenal year for "mainstream movies"
I appreciate the comment that Pfister made about the lighting being "invisible" to the audience. So, I've always wanted to know whether DP's look at how a scene is lit, when they watch someone else's movie in the theater, or whether they just watch the movie. (I have to watch a movie twice because the first time watching it, I'm looking at the lighting and not really paying attention to the dialog or plot.)
This guy's like the Jack Bauer of cinematographers. They need to shoot a scene quick so he starts setting lights and says "I don't have time to explain!" but then the dailies look sick and chris nolan hires him. much love Wally.
Okay, while The Prestige may be "stylized" in its cinematography as a whole, I feel that film doesn't have a very stylized lighting. It's actually made to look like it's shot in natural or practical light most of the time. It's pretty subtle.
it doesnt bother me. and everyone is complaining about dumb things when all im trying to get out of this is knowledge about a great cinematographer. i think the questions that hes asking are good and he did a good job for getting a solid interview.
When I read the title and saw the tiny little picture preview, I asked myself "why are they interviewing Kiefer Sutherland to talk about Wally Pfister?" It's crazy how much those two look alike.
@factthanolder I have seen NOTHING that looks like 'Inception'. I think, just like 'Citizen Kane' is the 'Citizen Kane' of black and white cinematography, 'Inception' is the 'Citizen Kane' of colour cinematography.
It kinda bugs me when people say they don't understand a film... The content isn't hard to understand at all if you pay attention. From a production point of view, you have to admire it. The fact that Nolan only used 500 visual effects shots whereas films of the same genre will use 4 times that is impressive. It stays true to film making, if anything. No cheating. One of my favourite things about Christopher Nolan.
So many of you hating on the interviewer, or the camerawork. Guess what, look past all that and there's a great interview with a great cinematographer.
@r3i6nm8n I was looking at the trailer for 'Moneyball' and thinking how lucky Bennett Miller was to get him for that movie because it looks amazing. He still operates on films he photographs doesn't he?
@letusdrinkmilk he really is. Back in 2008, I went on his site which was still in development at the time and had only his email... I emailed him at that address and a day later got a response, albeit short but the fact he responded was awesome. I love it when it fame doesn't get to people's heads
Great interview. It's bits and pieces like this that help us build the character of the Nolan family and how they operate. Am I the only who thinks it's kind of ridiculous to get an entire hotel suite and trick it out like a conference room just for a one man interview? lol
You know, it's interesting. The cinematography interviews get a lot of complaints about the zooming. The basic idea, obviously, is to break things up during a half-hour talking head conversation. But I hear the positive part of the frustration. All politics are local. I am not dismissing the complaint. But we can't satisfy everyone's idea of perfection. I hope there are other values in these chats that make the pain bearable.
I can't wait to see how Transcendence will turn out! If it's a success then Maybe he could make a spin-off Dark Knight trilogy if Nolan doesn't return as the director!
If you didn't like Inception even after multiple viewings,you should check out Inception and Philisophy (which is on youtube).Even if you don't like the movie after that you'll know it makes sense.
I have no idea who you are as a person, what your religious ideology is, what your political ideology is, what gender, age or culture. All I know is I relate to you because I totally share your love of film, and that's fucking awesome.
That's cool, it's still my favorite film of his, The substance is definitely there though, it's so deeply layered and fine tuned and not pretentious because it's full of everything needed and everything is stated just enough just because you didn't get it doesn't mean it's style over substance or the emperor has no clothes, it's not a one watch film, it's carefully crafted and executed film that can be dissected and hold up under scrutiny.
Yea I guess you're right. I was just too hung up in listening to Pfister at the time. Now I see its more of a conversation going on. And with that in mind, its not really that bad as I put it.
I've no real problems with the interview. I just find myself wishing for better lighting and editing. STILL. The interviews are phenomenal. And I love them.
I just don't understand how it's a mess? Like it's not even complicated. It's widely regarded as a masterpiece and was praised for it's originality. Not to mention the fact it's one of the highest grossing films of all time! I don't want to sound argumentative but I literally have no idea how you think that it's a mess haha. Each to their own though and all that!
If you were really interested in preserving oral history you'd re upload this in HD, because you taped it at least 720p I bet. Even if it nulls your clicks.
@tykjen76 Eeeeeeyeah, I think he comes off as more eager and over interested, than inconsiderate - notice that he'd interrupt Pfister with questions in the context of what is being said at that point. It's not quite aimless "answer all the questions I have set out before me so that I may meet my criteria and not lose my job" conduct you see a lot from media moguls.
It's totally fine to not like this movie. I know many who don't. The problem I have with your statements is when you try to sell your opinion as fact specifically when you say "this movie makes no sense, and 45mins into it I was lost." You got lost, period. But the movie makes sense. If someone asked me 45 mins in what was going on, I'd be able to explain exactly what's happening. So, maybe it's not as much of a mess as you claim it is.
He's a commercial director now. Probably better money, and more creative freedom. Short projects means he isn't tied down for a couple years on one thing.
You'd think that a camera op worthy of being in a room with an ASC cinematographer would know how to pick a framing and stick with it. I'm not even out of film school and this is painful to look at...
Weird, two top comments saying how "amateurish" the interviewer is, even though a) I doubt they've ever interviewed themselves in the mirror, let alone Academy Award winners on a regular basis, b) they obviously haven't watched the channel enough to know that the format for these videos is a friendly conversation rather than an out-right interview, and c) the video has only 1 dislike, *so obviously they wholeheartedly mean what they say. *sarcasm
Really? You write your comment with agony? That's really disrespectful, because the interviewer did alot of things right. Stop looking for the bad things in an movie and enjoy the good things.
some really stupid comments here on what is basically an interview! just listen to it and be happy that you get to hear a great DP give you some insight.
How is it a mess? I understood the film the first time I watched it. It's an absolutely brilliant movie and the idea is not that complex at all. If you're struggling with it then maybe you should stick to shit like Transformers.
This guy is freaking awesome, and one hell of a cinematographer.
inception was gorgeous
He didn't trash the avengers as a movie. He just said that the cinematography wasn't upto standards (which let's face it was one of it's weaknesses). In fact, if anything he put his own Batman films under the microscope calling them movies about "a guy in a rubber suit". There's no Marvel/DC war going on here.
But he’s right, Seamus McGarvey is much better than he shows in The Avengers. But that’s also because they were told they’d need to light a certain way for the 3D. Look at what he’s done with Godzilla or Bad Times at the El Royale. Both amazing looking, completely different feeling films.
I've had the pleasure to work with Wally a couple of times and it's pretty surreal watching someone who's so good at what they do, actually do it. In terms of great DPs, Wally's gotta be up there with Deakins, Janusz Kaminski and Matt Libatique.
What did you do? =)
Same I directed Inception and The Dark Knight. Wally or "Walfist" as we used to call him was a great camera guy.
What makes Nolan special is that he is able to work with skilled and talented people in such a way that they are able to bring their best to the picture. He is a "director", a manager and leader. I think that it is in this he succeeds. There are equally good directors (and better) out there, but Nolan has been able to achieve similar quality in movies with arguably a lot less experience than the masters. His cinematographer is just one of the many skilled and talented people he works with.
THIS GUY was the cinematographer for the second best movie I have seen in 38 years.
Inception is topped only by Star Wars of course.
This guy deserves some PROPS!!!!!! AND KUDOS!!!!!!!
u r the best filmaker interviewner ever had on this planet .
i own u dude .
It's exciting to see a time in modern film where certain filmmakers are doing their best to show studios that if allowed one can make a bigger budget movie with commercial appeal that DOES NOT have to be dumbed down to be successful. That a portion of the audience are desperate for challenging and authentic storytelling on a grand scale. 2022 being a phenomenal year for "mainstream movies"
it seems like a lot of filmmakers get into the business because of 2001 space odyssey
I was Wally's 1st AC on 2 Corman films. Pleasant character and fun to work with. I liked his lighting then even though he was just starting.
I appreciate the comment that Pfister made about the lighting being "invisible" to the audience. So, I've always wanted to know whether DP's look at how a scene is lit, when they watch someone else's movie in the theater, or whether they just watch the movie.
(I have to watch a movie twice because the first time watching it, I'm looking at the lighting and not really paying attention to the dialog or plot.)
Really interesting guy. Cant wait to see Transcendence - trailer looks awesome!
Nice job! Inception has one of the best cinematography ever! Keep up the good work!
Such a lovely, down to earth guy :)
love this guy his composition always amazing. thanks for putting this up
This guy's like the Jack Bauer of cinematographers. They need to shoot a scene quick so he starts setting lights and says "I don't have time to explain!"
but then the dailies look sick and chris nolan hires him. much love Wally.
"I don't stylize light" prestige it's the most incredible yet stylized photography
Okay, while The Prestige may be "stylized" in its cinematography as a whole, I feel that film doesn't have a very stylized lighting. It's actually made to look like it's shot in natural or practical light most of the time. It's pretty subtle.
@@jcp1984again well I can't answer that it was 9 years ago hahaha I had to go back watch the whole thing to understand what I ment
it doesnt bother me. and everyone is complaining about dumb things when all im trying to get out of this is knowledge about a great cinematographer. i think the questions that hes asking are good and he did a good job for getting a solid interview.
When I read the title and saw the tiny little picture preview, I asked myself "why are they interviewing Kiefer Sutherland to talk about Wally Pfister?" It's crazy how much those two look alike.
of all the youtube comments I've glanced at.. this is the most truest one. Holy shit.
WUT?? no way.they both have two eyes. that's it.
I thought it was Rupert Graves :)
@letusdrinkmilk He's also a traditionalist. He will only shoot on film not digital
Man, I was looking for this guys name, because he just does cinematography that just astounds me.
I wonder what Pfister's opinions are on digital cinema cameras nowadays like the Arri Alexa series vs traditional film. Hmm....
he shoots his commercial work on the alexa sxt studio
@factthanolder I have seen NOTHING that looks like 'Inception'. I think, just like 'Citizen Kane' is the 'Citizen Kane' of black and white cinematography, 'Inception' is the 'Citizen Kane' of colour cinematography.
This specific interview is so much better shot/lit than others like the Mickey Rourke standalone.
It kinda bugs me when people say they don't understand a film... The content isn't hard to understand at all if you pay attention. From a production point of view, you have to admire it. The fact that Nolan only used 500 visual effects shots whereas films of the same genre will use 4 times that is impressive. It stays true to film making, if anything. No cheating. One of my favourite things about Christopher Nolan.
Really wish there was a transcript of this or at least CC
He's easily one of the best working DP's today. I'm excited to see how Wally does with directing.
A legend--Transcendence is gonna be awesome.
Which movie were you talking about?
what did he say at 17:50? something like " so are you looking for *blank* movies"?? or something like that.
Fuck he's cool. Personal hero
So many of you hating on the interviewer, or the camerawork. Guess what, look past all that and there's a great interview with a great cinematographer.
Help me understand. What is it about the movies you don't like? Do you dislike Nolan as well?
I love the interview but I felt you kept cutting him off and talking over him a bit but other than that, nice interview. I love his work.
a re-release right? What a dope.
@r3i6nm8n I was looking at the trailer for 'Moneyball' and thinking how lucky Bennett Miller was to get him for that movie because it looks amazing.
He still operates on films he photographs doesn't he?
Oh my god they are magnificent. Maybe Peter Jackson too just cause I love him so
@letusdrinkmilk he really is. Back in 2008, I went on his site which was still in development at the time and had only his email... I emailed him at that address and a day later got a response, albeit short but the fact he responded was awesome. I love it when it fame doesn't get to people's heads
@tykjen76 It's more of a casual conversation, actually. Notice the camera zooming in and out on Wally. It's not a typical interview.
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Great interview. It's bits and pieces like this that help us build the character of the Nolan family and how they operate. Am I the only who thinks it's kind of ridiculous to get an entire hotel suite and trick it out like a conference room just for a one man interview? lol
You know, it's interesting. The cinematography interviews get a lot of complaints about the zooming. The basic idea, obviously, is to break things up during a half-hour talking head conversation. But I hear the positive part of the frustration.
All politics are local. I am not dismissing the complaint. But we can't satisfy everyone's idea of perfection. I hope there are other values in these chats that make the pain bearable.
DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood the conversation is interesting enough to hold attention.
I can't wait to see how Transcendence will turn out! If it's a success then Maybe he could make a spin-off Dark Knight trilogy if Nolan doesn't return as the director!
Pfister and Nolan are the only people I would be star struck by. Anyone else is small potatoes but I would full on girl gush if I met either of them.
If you didn't like Inception even after multiple viewings,you should check out Inception and Philisophy (which is on youtube).Even if you don't like the movie after that you'll know it makes sense.
Damn, he's so fucking personable. I don't even care about the Avengers comments now.
I have no idea who you are as a person, what your religious ideology is, what your political ideology is, what gender, age or culture. All I know is I relate to you because I totally share your love of film, and that's fucking awesome.
huge thanks
That's cool, it's still my favorite film of his, The substance is definitely there though, it's so deeply layered and fine tuned and not pretentious because it's full of everything needed and everything is stated just enough just because you didn't get it doesn't mean it's style over substance or the emperor has no clothes, it's not a one watch film, it's carefully crafted and executed film that can be dissected and hold up under scrutiny.
Please please do more cinematography interviews! I'd really like to see Mihai Malamare Jr., Robert Elswit, Chris Doyle - anyone who's hot right now
Yea I guess you're right. I was just too hung up in listening to Pfister at the time. Now I see its more of a conversation going on. And with that in mind, its not really that bad as I put it.
Who does these interviews?
Sony F65 is not really 8K, not only is it not 8k, the Red Dragon 6K sensor...has more pixels.
I've no real problems with the interview. I just find myself wishing for better lighting and editing. STILL. The interviews are phenomenal. And I love them.
Seems like a conversation/interview. It's okay with me.
Wally: 'You can't handheld the IMAX camera.' Three years later: enter Hoyte.
invaluable share, thank you
pls closed caption
how so? seems pretty natural and off the cuff to me.
How come you haven’t talked to Hoyte yet?
@roquefortfiles Inception was a great. You not understanding it does not take away from the movie.
I just don't understand how it's a mess? Like it's not even complicated. It's widely regarded as a masterpiece and was praised for it's originality. Not to mention the fact it's one of the highest grossing films of all time! I don't want to sound argumentative but I literally have no idea how you think that it's a mess haha. Each to their own though and all that!
From Porn To Nolan. Badass!
He's so good!
hahahahahahahaha if one is interviewing a cinematographer I feel like the least you could do is frame him correctly :)
Wally canny control his dolly
your zooming and deZoomming is going to make me crazy
Liked the interview! but the interviewer did a terrible job. He interrupted Wally every time he was talking.
Chuck Norris was impressed by Wally's work.
I would love to work with him
I didn't say "There is a Marvel/DC war going on here". By saying "Avengers comments" I meant exactly what you just said.
If you were really interested in preserving oral history you'd re upload this in HD, because you taped it at least 720p I bet. Even if it nulls your clicks.
I don't care about nulling my clicks. I believe this was shot on DV tape. Someday, I will find the time to go through a reload.
@tykjen76 Eeeeeeyeah, I think he comes off as more eager and over interested, than inconsiderate - notice that he'd interrupt Pfister with questions in the context of what is being said at that point. It's not quite aimless "answer all the questions I have set out before me so that I may meet my criteria and not lose my job" conduct you see a lot from media moguls.
i dont give a shit how these interviews are filmed... i generally just listen to them as i do other things anyway.
It's totally fine to not like this movie. I know many who don't. The problem I have with your statements is when you try to sell your opinion as fact specifically when you say "this movie makes no sense, and 45mins into it I was lost." You got lost, period. But the movie makes sense.
If someone asked me 45 mins in what was going on, I'd be able to explain exactly what's happening. So, maybe it's not as much of a mess as you claim it is.
2022 : He hasn't lit a feature film in 10 years. Why'd he quit?
He's a commercial director now. Probably better money, and more creative freedom. Short projects means he isn't tied down for a couple years on one thing.
...BECAUSE ALL THE FILMS ARE MADE FOR YOU AND ONLY YOU!
is there anyone else that thought there was a slight stab to Robert Richardson in this?
Good interview. Just one thing, the interviewer needs to either stop cutting in or talk over their interviewee
You'd think that a camera op worthy of being in a room with an ASC cinematographer would know how to pick a framing and stick with it. I'm not even out of film school and this is painful to look at...
I agree, but please calm down. TH-cam has enough rants.
Weird, two top comments saying how "amateurish" the interviewer is, even though a) I doubt they've ever interviewed themselves in the mirror, let alone Academy Award winners on a regular basis, b) they obviously haven't watched the channel enough to know that the format for these videos is a friendly conversation rather than an out-right interview, and c) the video has only 1 dislike, *so obviously they wholeheartedly mean what they say. *sarcasm
yea. Inception is the only picture by Nolan to get a Best Picture Nomination.
Films aren't made just for you!
you fuckin do this. youll find yourself probably doing the same thing. its like a natural thing to do
My buddy.
congrats for the oscar!
sure sure....if you say so. BECAUSE THE FILM WAS MADE FOR YOU!
@destructo1977 oh & yeah KEEP POSTING THOSE VIDEOS!
yeah he does come off with a sense of ego, but you know - comes with the territory most of the time
Really? You write your comment with agony? That's really disrespectful, because the interviewer did alot of things right. Stop looking for the bad things in an movie and enjoy the good things.
much better shot starting at 18min
some really stupid comments here on what is basically an interview! just listen to it and be happy that you get to hear a great DP give you some insight.
Well it was made for you...and only you.
Oh hi Jack Bauer.
Seamus McGarvey disliked this.
Pfister? I hardly know her!
telling someone there movie sucks is just a immature insult...it's not real criticism. criticism would be this sucks and this is why.
How is it a mess? I understood the film the first time I watched it. It's an absolutely brilliant movie and the idea is not that complex at all. If you're struggling with it then maybe you should stick to shit like Transformers.
HOLY CRAP this guy knows about filmmaking!
WOW. I want to go to film school. I feel like a tadpole watching a whale do backflips! lol
Means nothing today. The films that get "Best Picture" nominations today wouldn't get a second glance in the 70's when GREAT movies were made.