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There’s a lot of mechanics in here calling this guy names. Mechanics I definitely wouldn’t let touch your German.
A car being expensive to maintain versus being unreliable are too very different things. The issue is people who think they can afford them buy them, run them to the ground, realise the maintenance cost, proceed to shit the bed, call the car unreliable, and then sell it onto some poor bloke who’s not got pay a lot to get it all sorted and now he thinks it’s unreliable.
That still doesn’t explain the cheap plastic parts in the engine bay that will inevitably break no matter how well you take care of the car. Keep justifying paying double the price for half the reliability just to show off though 👍
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@@57Nights Hey buddy, if the parts are actually cheap and plastic like (key word being cheap), how exactly is it going to cost me twice as much?
I have an 2018 M4, it’s never had any issue with “engine bay plastics”, what’s expensive is new tires when you have as much fun in a car as I do but guess what, I can afford the tires so I don’t actually care.
If you want cheap maintenance stick to driving your Toyotas, but I myself will remain in my Germans.
If your truly happy about having a cheap maintenance car good for you, but why are you on here saying I’m paying twice as much to show off. It honestly sounds like your pissed off you can’t afford a German and I don’t blame you I was too when I couldn’t afford one but I didn’t put my time and energy into writing negative comments.
If you repair everything that breaks on your BMW it's actually quite reliable
😂
@@guccipig2782 nah fr if you’re not a loser who spends 1k+ at the shop it’s quite easy and cheap to maintain a BMW. Most ignorant drivers just run it to shit and by 100k miles when most of your major components are recommended to be replaced, even stated in the manual. Most people who are dumb asf and do no research on their car but accelerate everywhere they go, end up trashing and destroying the car beyond repair. Keep up with it and it will keep up with you.
@@BMWN52R sounds like you too broke to afford the shops my boi
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@@BMWN52R I mean you can’t go anywhere without accelerating.
People often confuse reliability with indestructible.
Yeah after 2 cars and onto my 3rd one atm, I can say I learned a valuable lesson and will be taking better care of my new one😂😂
Is that like confusing lexus with toyota?
What would reliable mean to you then?
@Flatoot if there is something wrong with their Toyota, most will brush it off as simple
But if there is something wrong with a European car even if it's just electronics, most will freak out and say they're unreliable.
Most people have a high tolerance for problems in a Japanese car than a European car just because they are seen as "more reliable"
@@WitchYuki22 everyone overlooks the faults of their favourite brands, the same way they overlook the faults of their partners. If said thing ticks enough boxes the rest can be accepted as a compromise. It doesn't have to be all about reliability, but I was just making a joke about those 2 brands because I like them and they rank number 1 & 2 in the most reliable car brands last time I googled it, but everyone is entitled to their own preference
German engineer here. We dont build them like we used to. It's not the drivers that changed since Mercedes diesels ran 1000000 miles on the same oil.
That’s what happens when companies cut budget costs to their cars. And this isn’t just specific to German Cars, but every car manufacutre you could think of. They’d rather mass produce 2 tons worth of plastic garbage than to take the time to engineer something that could last a literal lifetime.
Sad world we live in, but what can you do🤷
I own a 1982 300d and a 1990 420sel both with over 300k miles and I can confirm german cars from this era were tanks. I took extreme care of my 2018 bmw 328i and it had a water pump failure at 60k and several electrical issues. They simply dont make them like they used too
Youre not an engineer.
A car will maybe do 100k miles if you change the filters, but over 1 million is utter bs. The most reliable BMW engine ever is the M57 and this was built between 1998 and 2008.
@@antoniovenegas6237 A M5 from 2002 does 500k miles without issues. Your old BMWs wont achieve the same distance.
@derunfassbarebielecki4721 He was talking about the old Mercedes diesels which were far more reliable than any BMW engine and have multiple documented engines/vehicles making over 1 million miles. There were also quite a few documented cases of 9c1 chevy caprices and other American v8s that made it past 1 million miles..
Someone once said
"it takes a rich man to buy an expensive car.. and an even richer man go pay for its maintenance. "
DIY is the answer man, then you’d be shocked that the oil change for example is in reality 3$ more than the Toyota, and once you replace other parts you’ll see the massive difference in quality and you’ll never want a Japanese economy car again.
@@chockeypucks24 read my mind 👏
I’ve treated my 335i perfectly, low miles, early oil changes and even grandma driven, and it still leaks power steering fluid😂
Power steering leaks are common in all cars, friend had a rav4 with a never ending power steering leak, and my parents had a Honda crv that leaked power steering fluid onto the belt, and tore it up, but the engine was already just a ticking time bomb.
No car is perfect, but just pray God is on your side
oil changes and grandma driven doesnt have anything to do with a power steering fluid leak. its the age of the hose its probably very old they dry out and crack from the heat of the engine bay. just find the bad hose and replace it for $20
That doesn’t make the car unreliable. A pray everytime you turn the car on is a unreliable car
Grandma driving is not a good thing on any car
You still will have issues on the 335i regardless. Vanos, coil packs, water pump and oil cooler leaks. They are all fairly easy items to address. The turbo wastegate loves to rattle on older models
I’m a mechanic and work at a shop that specializes in German cars , bmw Audi and Mercedes . For the most part the mechanical stuff and drive train is reliable . Biggest issues we run into are electrical . We had an Audi that went into limp mode because the hood sensor went bad and read that the hood was open so it wouldn’t let you drive faster than 10-15 mph . They have tons of sensors and modules . Almost twice as an average car .
More tech= More sensors. Still doesn’t make a car unreliable
@@coredaqqer6197 more sensors =more electrical issues=more problems =more reliability issues , you haven’t wrenched much if you think more tech and sensors don’t cause more problems lol
Sounds like a good first car for a kid you don’t trust driving 😂
@@coredaqqer6197if it has a lot of electrical problems that needs to be fixed then its unreliable. It aint rocket science lmao😂
Koreans laughing in the corner 😂😂
It absolutely is the car. You can drive a corolla, camry, Lexus, Honda etc., like a “German car” and still have no issues. A car made cheap with crap quality control leads to mechanical issues down the line regardless of if the service is kept up
Yes you can and they will be fine because they are made to be bulletproof if you keep up with maintenance and treat a German car or muscle car right and how it’s supposed to be treated they will be fine he was absolutely right when he said you can’t treat every car like a economic car if you think that you can that is very juvenile and unwise thought 😂
Reliability is the ability of a component or system to work under certain conditions for a certain period of time. Japanese cars are by definition more reliable because they can perform their functions at the same rate German cars can but for a longer period of time or with a wider range of conditions. If I treated an Italian super car like it was meant to for that matter it would be just as reliable.
@@carterdavenport240 wtf is maintenance constantly fixing it
Not sure if a Corolla would last over 200,000 miles if driven at 150 mph on the Autobahn everyday.
@@bmw803they last 800,000 kilometers on our roads which are one of the worst roads out of any country. and that is with shit fuel and engine oil. BMWs (or german cars for that matter) can’t even last 20,000 kilometers here with expensive oil and best octane fuel
As i get older in the automotive industry, the more i realize a lot of care are durable if maintained. Your car will take care of you, if you take care of your car
@juanocampo2262land rover for one 😂
@juanocampo2262shit that’s even better💀
Here's the way I see it, if a car doesn't have any known major mechanical recall then its reliable. Doesn't matter if its from Hyundai or from Toyota.
If you wan't ANY older car to give you at minimum 5 trouble-free years here's what you need to do:
Replace every single gasket on the engine
Replace all the coolant hoses
Replace the plastic coolant bits
Replace the belts
Replace the engine & transmission mounts
And there you go you will not have to open your hood again for a long long time unless a random sensor fails or something. But like I was saying the gaskets are the most important thing, in any older car you get your number one priority should be changing out that old dried out valve cover gasket, oil pan gasket, timing cover gasket and any other random little gasket.
Still doesn't explain plastic parts in the engine bay
Not to mention cheap soy sugar based coating wires rather than plastic that rate love to chew on and get melt easily than plastic if engine overheats in bmw
dawg that’s build quality the question was about Reliability 🤦♂️
@@yukhzia say it again, but slowly 😅
@@teddy98100 wait… ooooo ye i’m dumb
To make the car lighter?
So Toyota owners take care of their cars more than a BMW owner? Most Toyota owners dont know anything about maintinence from what Ive seen.
They don’t need to know because Toyota is reliable, there’s nothing to maintain. Bmw owners need to know because their cars break down. Simple.
@@ianhachi wrong. Its more than with bmw you can't put the cheapest oil, cheapest fuel or take it to the cheapest garage. Woth Toyota you can
@@ianhachi i have a 2020 bmw with 300k miles on the clock and get it serviced by BMW every 3 months and never had issues. Only ever had to replace tyres and glow plugs
@@EnglishDrifts69GTxRED 300k in 2 and a half years. That’s insane
@@WarrenF live in UK too but I use it for work and travel all over. Service it regularly because of the high mileage
A toyota can take abuse and still not break while with a bmw you need to fix everything on the car for it to be reliable.
But Toyota is not even close to bmw when you talk about driving experience
@@user-qv8ok2wt7c I didn't mention anything about driving experience ffs . I only spoke about reliability ?
@@rnldmanuel88 you get what you paid for. Bmw gives you great driving experience, which is not comes along with reliability, mostly.
@@user-qv8ok2wt7c dude what lol 😆. I just said BMW's aren't reliable where the fuck do I ever mention anything about driving experience. Lexus makes reliable cars with amazing driving experiences so don't ever say shit like that. I wouldn't call BMW driving experience that great . I've owned a few BMW's my favourite was my f80 M3. But there are way better cars out there.
If you drive your bmw like you drive your toyota, they are both reliable. Bmw can easily take the abuse that corolla can take. But can the corolla give the same performance that bmw give? I dont think so. People say things like that all the time. BmWs CaNt TaKe ThE AbUse that corolla takes. Nah bullshit, get to 60 in 13 seconds in your corolla man. Bimmers can get there in like 6-7 seconds. It actually takes much more abuse than corolla takes just getting to 60. You get what you pay.
"if you spend a lot of money on the car, and fix it every week, It's very reliable.."
Pfft, what bmws are you talking about?
@@michaelh.1262 their 2.0 diesel in the 320d and 520d is trash timing chain issues out the wahzoo
Such a dumb statement and he thought he looked smart.
What does Pfft mean ?
😂
That’s why here in Germany, people buy old Bmws and Mercedes to have a reliable car. We have none of the issues Americans have with their German cars😂😂😂
The Americans just have no clue how to maintain them, or use the right oil.
It's ironic because their companies GM and Ford are like the biggest rolling piles of junk on the market right now.
I live in Germany and what this guy said is bullshit. With the exception of old mercedes diesels and m113. Otherwise they are know as unreliable.
i absolutely abuse my lexuses one with 140k and one with 200k. the only thing they’ve needed was a new battery every couple years
Is your dash melting?
@@SCHMALLZZZ no. i live up north in the forrest
As a mechanic I'm going to say I've never heard anything dumber in my life
literally said the same thing to myself lmfaooo😂😂😂😂
Yea this guy talkin is sooo dumb
Wtf, then you a shitty mechanic
Because you are mechanic for japanese cars 😂😂😂
@@mikica75mpower47 I wish
As a bmw owner this is pure bullshit😂
@Rinor ///M 🏳️🏴 Bro are you dense? Cs those plastic parts in your engine bay probably aren't.
@@rinorm7709 imagine having to upgrade your stock parts just so the shit won’t melt when your engine overheats😭 (which BMW engines tend to do)
@@isauwy I drive beamers for ten years never had one overheating. Idk what kind of BMWs you drive
@@isauwy Bro your engine shouldn't be overheating XD
@@yyhbackagain5013 idk depends on what BMW u have indeed, or just luck. I can say from my personal experience; I owned a bmw 320i and it costed me a fortune, after I let it go I bought a used Nissan Primera with an SR20DE. With this car I rode that car for 100k miles with no issues exept regular maintenance. You tell me
He is right, I mean of you do regular services every 5000 miles you'll never have an issue with your car but you know there genius out there that don't understand these easy stuff.
This just isn’t true. You can do all the maintenance in the world and take good care of your vehicles, there is nothing you can do that will stop the inevitable electronic failures that happen in expensive European cars. The only issues I have had have all been electronic or sensor related failures and because they are so complex and interconnected it is always a big and expensive job to fix a relatively minor problem.
bullshit
Even Toyotas, do an oil change every 5000 miles, if you neglect the maintenance on even a Toyota, it will be unreliable as an Italian car
I think the problem lies in people overspending their money to afford a BMW and not being able to pay for all the repairs and yearly inspections, thus they ignore those and sell it on and suddenly you have check engine lights lighting up because the previous owner was a donut who never changed the oil or something because it's too expensive... Sure wasn't too expensive getting that credit to buy the damn thing, now was it?
E60 rod bearings have entered the chat
Yeah it’s a race motor with tight tolerances. Takes around 60 to 80k miles for them to fail. Show me another 500hp engine that doesn’t need major maintenance at that point. It’s also called the s85 because not all e60’s have the v10 and the rest don’t have rod baring issues. I can tell you don’t know much about the topic 😂
Literally what he’s talking about. Every single e60 was driven hard and not let warmed up and revved cold for stupid 10 second videos. Rod bearing failure literally comes from excess stress due to cold oil. Watch that TH-cam channel that tests cold and hot oil and tell me if you think cold oil can make a car run let alone a damn bmw
@@tunanocrust5089 I literally own a 2009 M5 but go on. One of my friends has an M6 with the same engine, preventative replace on the major risk parts is whats needed. Even if you give the car the utmost care, things will still break over time and mileage so the only thing you can do is replace parts at certain intervals. That is not reliability by the standards that a *Daily driver* should meet. Its not a race car, its a sports sedan to be driven regularly
@@moo.7643 Thats just 1 of the numerous major issues with that car. I own one as the 2nd owner, bought from a friends father. Keep in mind that people bought this as a daily driver, not a weekend track car. This is a family sedan. If the car is not reliable based on German luxury sedan standards, it is not reliable. The same generation RS6 or E63 were objectively more reliable even though they still encounter issues your average German luxury car does
@@sierrag8412 bro i know cars arent indestructible and my bad i thought you were one of them dudes that just watches videos and thinks knowing about problems on ONE car makes the car shit without knowing why the problem happens. and yeah i dont trust any bmw after the e46 and MAYBE a few e90s cause theres less things going on = less to break. if i had an s85 im aware its a race engine and wouldnt expect it to be holding up to daily driving stress
As a mechanic your BMW starts leaking oil the minute you drive it out of the dealership
Lol
You are just saying stuff
This is why i never trust mechanics lmao. The only answer you’ll get out of one is either completely positive or completely negative about a brand or model. All growing up with mechanics has taught me was to listen to them about repairs and not about purchases.
I saw a BMW leak oil on the show room floor.
@@420straightdank5 I honestly wouldn't doubt that man..... Bmw is a very unreliable expensive over-engineered German pile of crap
in shorter words people tend to drive higher end cars harder than an average daily commuter
My 5.7 Liter LS1 in my Trans-Am is by far one of the best engines! I've done sooo many 120+mph pulls over the years and the thing has NEVER broken down. 2002 runs like a champ
My lt1 is 30 years old and still running 😅 next to the ls1 we have powerplants
F30 328i 438K Full bolt ons since new Stage 1 , 10 year old vehicle 😊
so you are saying you took off all the bmw parts and fitted higher quality parts and tuned the emissions BS from the computer and you now have a reliable car.
The problem with social media is that it gives guys like this a platform to babble nonsense. Im a mechanic, german cars are in fact unreliable and a pain the butt to maintain. All theyre good for is driving fast and aggressive in style for a few years and giving off the false image that you have a money tree growing in your yard, because unless you are leasing it, you don’r want to go through the expenses of having to maintain it 5 years down the line. If you must drive luxury drive a Lexus. If’s a Toyota. Ut’s reliable. You can have your cake and eat it too.
I think the guy was tryna say that most German cars are known for there speed so a lot of people would take advantage of that by not taking care of the car like racing it, redlining the engine and things like that
Ever heard of the track, drag events, just plain fun in the city during the night when there's no cars. Don't tell me you're one of those boomers who think powerful cars are useless.
Do not everybody in the world wants a boring-ass Toyota
You’re not a mechanic and you know nothing about German cars xD drive a boring Lexus and be proud of it
So
Lexus us luxury to you ? 😂 Lexus is just a hyped up Toyota.
My 1985 vw gti had 535k miles on the original 1.8 8v engine when I bought it. I also drove it about 2 1/2 hours back to my house in its current state after sitting for years. I’d really love to see any newer car do that without swapping and engine or tranny along the way
This dude nailed it pay attention to your dealer recommended services ppl
Still you will get fucked , I did in my bmw x3 , it was nightmare
I treated my BMW's as good as a person could, and yet they still broke down constantly.
Exactly proving his point if your going to own a car of such culture you need to maintenance everything of everything
He’s just wrong, bmws are filled with cheap plastic parts and are notoriously unreliable for their price. That’s why I got a Lexus gs400 instead of a 335I
@@markblue6464 are you replying to my comment? I just said I treated them as good as a person could ie. I did every bit a maintenance on the things and way sooner than required...
@Craig Krueger my 5 series has had no problems and I've had it for 3 years
You don’t have a bmw if you say this lol
Owner of a 1988 audi. Original engine with 500.000 km . Only problems were a turbo went out at 470.000km 2 radiator hoses . Just regular maintenance and it wont die on you and I push the car to the limit a lot because it is a very fun car to drive and handles really well.
Bro it's a 1988 audi. Back when they made it well. Now they're shit. Especially Audi
I bought a second hand Volkswagen golf 2013 in 2015 with 90.000km. I still drive it and it has now 567.000km. Just normal maintance. No crazy problems
I recently bought a 2014 a4 and have only put 3k miles into it. Hopefully I don’t see too many issues with it. It’s at 89k now.
@Justin C Best recommendation bro. If you need replacement parts. Don't buy the ones from Audi themselves. Buy from Skoda cs they have sometimes the exact same parts for a cheaper price. Or just buy some aftermarket ones. You're lucky a lot of people have the A4. So you'll find a lot of support for it.
Bro it's a 1988, everyone knows the older German cars were reliable
If you need to treat a car in a specific way to be reliable, then it is not reliable
No? If you constantly red line the engine, constantly neglect the oil service and fluid maintences your car will break down it doesn’t matter if it’s a rolls Royce or a Toyota Hillux.
@@mincraftisawsome1234 it does though, the Hillux will be fine 😂
That’s a lot of cope in one short.
Anything German must always be done perfectly and it’ll be amazing. But once one small thing goes wrong, you’re screwed
Im driving my bmw like a menace and got 120.000 km on it with no issues😂
Probably the reason why I haven traded in my corvette for a 911.
@@IzayaTijisPrincess It says a lot when BMW owners are happy to see 100k😂😂 that's sad bro
@@oslotismcboom6733 Im not happy that I saw it I just said that I have 120k on it stop twisting my words I didnt give out judgement I just posted my personal situation
@@IzayaTijisPrincess120k is nothing tho for a Toyota.
Bruh, muscle cars are neglectable. That's why Mustangs and Camaros survive under early 20 year old ownership but not German sports sedans
Tell that to the head gasket that blows after the 1st 5000 miles of slowly breaking the car in properly😂
Every car is reliable when you throw 100k of service and parts on it
No Alfa Romeo will still break down
Not Range Rover
totally agree👍👍. My dad owns a 92 316i and literally never had a single engine problem. Plus the fact that hasn’t changed the clutch since then. And the car has 400 km on the dash something like 260 miles
Thats a pretty low milage for such a car(jk)
I have 150k miles on my C7 Corvette. Not one problem. Not even a leak, anywhere. I take care of it.
The biggest issues about these types of cars is their electrical system. Since they came with an abundance of features and cutting edge technologies, these components are the one that tend to be so vulnerable and become an issue.
How did he manage to say all Tudor words but not answer the god damn question. Lol
If your talking about the question of whether BMWs are reliable you are mistaken. He gave an explanation of why that was even a question first then proceeded to answer said question.
expensive to maintain = unreliable
It’s expensive to maintain because it’s unreliable.
I get what you’re trying to day but its not completely correct.
If its expensive to maintain because parts are expensive or parts simply need to get switched out more since its simply a stronger vehicle it doesn’t make it unreliable.
If parts keep breaking for no good reason and things stop functioning for no good reason or simply bresk fast for NO GOOD REASON yes you could call it unreliable
@@chimsloyalty3880bmw is pretty unreliable though with cheap parts. Funny how things starts to break after their warrenty ends.😂
Mercedes are though build to last.
@@Slimmshhady and I'm guessing toyota and honda use very high quality parts right?
They don't use plastics at all right?
@@WitchYuki22they know when and where to use the plastic
@@LegalpiracyAAARRRRGG delusional af lol
This is why honda is still having transmission and oil dilution issues in the 10th gen civics because fanboys like you will not criticize them when they cut corners
One of the obvious things with technology is that things used to be more mechanical, now it's more electrical, hence more issues, to start with, then the built quality of olden times
Bro my 1.6 petrol Audi A3 gets treated like a Group B rally car, only changing the oil once a year and she's still going strong starting first time every time 😂
VWs and Mercedes are different
@@Luis_Alcaide ehm.. who mentioned Mercedes? 💀
Nobody but you has mentioned Mercedes I have no idea why you are telling me something I already know💀
They are shit even maintaining them. In essence, you have to baby them to be reliable and even then, they break often and cost far more. Don't even mention the electronic issues that previous ownership don't influence as much. This Coming from a former Q5 owner.
My father has a +2017 Q5 zero problems. My 500hp 2009 n54 335i also had zero problems, because I bought it stock and low miles from the first owner who was 40 years old. No shit a +300hp vehicle is gonna have problems if you're buying it used from some 20 year old.
@@yuropean_eunion2133 ayyyy I also have a 335i F10 and mines amazing no issues bought it new and I know how to take care of it
I think you misunderstood ppl who buy germans in general have at least some understanding of what they’re getting into and most of them aside from car guys have money to fix it no brokie is buying a high end top of the line M5 cs thinking “o man this is gonna break down how am i gonna maintain it?” you buy a beamer knowing it’s a beamer and prepare yourself for it
My e90 330i with the n52 engine has so far proved very reliable, and my previous e39 530d was also very reliable.
I own 2 rx7s a skyline and a f30 bmw, all are super reliable and I beat the piss out of them. But I make sure to keep up on maintenance and treat them how you are supposed to. People are just ignorant now and think there’s only one reliable car
Why is it, Europeans don't face as much problems with German cars, most cars you see that are young timers on the road are Mercedes, BMW and Audi oh and VW of course. Oh Japanese do fine here as well.
Because Europeans fuel up with 95, if it needs 95, and not just cheapest option (86 in America - equivalent to 92). Because they change oil 5k miles/7k km, or every half a year (wow, just like manufacturer recommends). Because if there’s a recall, they comply. And if there’s a common known problem with the engine/transmission they don’t delay fixing it. Another reason is manual transmission (less complicated, and teaches you to actually take care of the car, like parking on the hill). Talking about previous part, good luck finding a single American in 1000 that doesn’t just put car into P on the hill, or ever uses hand brake (if the car is not manual ofc). All in all, cars are just abused and neglected in US, and for that reason anything with 75k mi (or 100k km) is considered too high mileage, and most used cars are sold for very cheap
@@v1adio779 Yeeeeees. This is exactly what they meant and 99% of these comments are too arrogant to realize it 😂 its the little things that make your car run good. They don't know because they probably do these things that you mentioned.
Europeans actually follow a maintenance schedule. Americans are so lazy that we can only manage Hondas and Toyotas, and even with the “reliability” of Japanese brands we can still get them to die. We treat our cars like appliances.
Tell me you are a BMW owner without telling me you are a BMW owner.
Tell me you never touched a car before with your bus ticket in your pocket without telling me you’re never touched a car before
@@Doki740bro ur that upset that BMWs are poorly made and break easily?
Exactly these people out here don’t realize if u buy a used sports car the previous person probably abused it
It's expected from any sports car to be abused.
I would expect the sporty car I buy to be able to handle the treatment of being a sports car to a good extent.
Today its a misconception that BMWs are unreliable, B48/58, S58/68 are some of the most reliable modern day engines of any car manufacturer. Preventative maintenance is the key to how long these engines last, negligence and laziness will only exacerbate issues.
BMWs with N54/55, N63 these engines were extremely unreliable and simply put terrible. Weak timing chains, bad charge pipe, bad vanos, warping of the headers, throttle body issues, oil pump, fuel pump, coolant return lines, burns oil etc these engines were a nightmare. Hence why a 16 year old BMW is stupid cheap chances are it will cost $10,000 to fix any issues and an additional $5,000 a year to keep it running.
If you’re a DIY kind of guy you’ll notice mechanics rip us off on German cars in the USA. Ex. BMW DIY oil changes cost 3$ more for the oil and filter because they hold slightly more oil. You’ll also notice the absolutely massive difference in quality of the parts down to the cabin and engine air filters. Everything is way better in the German car. BMW warranties their cars from rust for 12 years and 100,000$ miles. Japanese cars can’t do that because they would pay out on every car they sold in a cold climate.
I have a bmw 323i e90, owned it for 4 years now, been the most reliable car I've had. One takeaway from owning the car is don't do work on it yourself unless you have experience, it can be costly to fix if you mess up. But if you service it regularly and keep on top of small issues that pop up they last for ages.
Okay you've owned a BMW for 4 years you don't say new or used I'm going to say no and you're already talking about fixing the small issues that come up that's not reliable then you understand what reliable is.
I'll give you a little bit of an example personal example I bought a 2013 Prius 2 years ago he had 160,000 mi on and was used to tow a boat inflatable but still it now has 210 I had to put a water pump in it.
I mean that's pretty reliable especially for vehicle that was used to tow an inflatable boat yet is an econo car.
And while it doesn't get like raced I cruise 70 80 mph but I'm not trying to have a race from every stoplight this car drives off road there's hills if you want to call them service driveways that I'm unable to drive up forward because the tires spin so I go in reverse foot to the floor bouncing scraping the underside car does this all the time still going things loaded usually as it's used as a service vehicle.
4-year-old BMW small issues that pop up like..... Got a 10-year-old car with 200,000 mi on it many receipts prior to my ownership and nothing's been changed
@Matt Lane I mean like replacing window trims etc when they get brittle. Your ignorance is understandable though, owning a prius and the like. And I haven't had to replace any pumps or anything so arguably it is more reliable than the vehicle you are talking about.
I don't know why you would tow a boat with a prius, seems more like a hilux or something would of been more suitable, but you work within your budget, understandable yet somewhat silly.
@@mattlane2282 and no didn't buy it new, bought it an old lady whose floor I replaced, got it for 10k when she bought a new one, a 25k car for 10k, pretty good deal and has proven to be a good investment.
@Matt Lane definitely didn't have 160 miles on it haha, that is considered clapped out where I'm from.
@@mattlane2282 Also, a grown man driving a Toyota Prius is just sad, perhaps it's time to re-evaluate your life choices. You must be getting 0 puss in that man.
Well said
Exactly!
I struggle to find places to service/repair my volvo that don’t eat my wallet.😊
He’s completely right use the recommended stuff and don’t cheap out and it will last
so basically you need to pamper your car more than you need to compared to other cars for it to work
For it to work, not necessarily. BMWs might fail sooner if the owners don’t follow scheduled maintenance, but with any car you should know the scheduled maintenance, and what you should expect to replace sooner than later.
It’s no surprise if you don’t change the transmission fluid after 100k miles you might see problems with your “reliable” car, and sell it as fast as you can when it could’ve easily been fixed by changing the transmission fluid.
@@michaelh.1262 Scheduled maintenance should be followed yes, but with a BMW you require more than just scheduled maintenance, and even then you can break things easily
It's almost like BMW cars are different from your standard Japanese shitboxes
Try to maintain a supra in the same way you do with your corolla and let's see if that supra is still running after 100k.
Yeah have to put a lot of money into it to maintain it, to prevent it from breaking. In the end you would end up breaking even with how much it'd cost to repair them anyways.
@@SL-pg4dh Other than a select few I don't even consider looking into European cars for their high maintenance and often times sub-standard interior quality for the price.
Bro, my BMW ⚠️ light says otherwise
because it’s probably a 2009 and ur ragging it down the street obviously it’s going to have a check engine light
Mines 2008 no engine lights
Uh think that means you need to fix it bro not post on YT
My man talking in the video owns a Corolla
He just basically told us that the sky is blue…WE KNOW
Everything in this world is reliable if you look after it… facts❤️
Yea just make sure you replace just a bout evey part in your bmw and it’ll be reliable for the next person
not entirely the case,
every screw .. every part ... every piece on your car (or any other device for that matter, printers are a good example) is meant to be unscrewed and screwed back in a certain number of times (maybe 10 times maybe 1000 times) if a car (or a printer) has a piece that it's only accessible by taking off 5 or 6 otherm pieces, then something is BOUND to break in the process, japanese cars are reliable because their parts are (usually) simpler to access and replace without taking the whole thing apart so statistically there's less chance of something going bad in the process
on the other hand, German cars had a reputation of being VERY RELIABLE in the 90s and early 2000s because you could work on them without taking them all apart, unfortunately nowadays MOST CARS (even Toyotas and Mitsubishis and KIAs ...) are becoming complicated to maintain therefore less reliable (some less than others), it's just physics
@@yxngboypoloNot everyone experience is the same
@@WayToManyAssassins yea bullshit. The same parts are on most is not all of them cars breakdown without expensive upkeep. If you don’t put alot money into maintenance, you’re gonna put a lot of money into the car later. There’s a reason why people advise against buying used BMWs
You not buy quality, you especially maintain it.
True German cars are reliable if you treat your cars like you should, all cars need to be upheld and German Cars are built thinking the owners will use common sense, Japanese cars are the exact opposite they build cars thinking the user wont treat them well, do late oil changes, abuse and bad upkeep. So that's why japanese cars are seen as "reliable" because they can take much more damage, because their parts are engineered to be able to take damage and still run, German cars are built so complicated and the tech making so their parts break easier if not taken care of. German cars are very reliable if you treat it as it should! People will get a German car thinking they can push and abuse it like their old Japanese or US car. Biggest problem with German cars is electronics and them making their cars complicated using twice as many sensors as any other car brand. Complicated can be both good and bad.True German cars are reliable if you treat your cars like you should, all cars need to be upheld and German Cars are built thinking the owners will use common sense, Japanese cars are the exact opposite they build cars thinking the user wont treat the well, do oil changes or upkeep. So that's why japanese cars are seen as "reliable" because they can take much more damage, because their parts are engineered to be able to take damage and still run, German cars are built for efficiency so their parts break easier if not taken care of. German cars are very reliable if you treat it as it should! People will get a German car thinking they can push and abuse it like their old Japanese or US car.
BMWs used to be reliable. It doesn’t matter if you don’t push it. They have plastic intake manifolds on a turbo high compression engine. They just break easily.
true to a certain extent. some cars are just going to, for example, get leaks and things will break easier because of materials. i dont have to worry about water pump issues or timing chain issues in my acura tsx but for my vw jetta i do. why? because of the heavy use of plastics in the vw
Cap, I took care of my e92 extremely well and it still was a nightmare.
if your definition of maintenance includes rebuilding the engine every car is reliable 2.0tfsi will start to burn oil no matter what you do
They burn oil from day one, it's in the owner's manual. Got a Stage 1 S4 says in the manual it burns 1l every 1000 miles depending on the driving conditions.
Reliability is 50% the manufacturers responsibility and 50% the owners
basically if you have unlimited money for repairs they're reliable
that is so true boss
Define reliability
Japanese cars: to get you from A to B consistently with a minimum of fuss.
BMWs: to cost you in tow trucks and repairs as much as you'd expect them to.
They're both reliable in their owns ways. A toyota will last forever if you let it, a BMW will see the shop at least once a year for something unexpected.
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@@oslotismcboom6733They're not both equally as reliable. Japanese products are high quality due to the integrity and high standards of Japanese culture. I have seen that most Japanese made things are among the very best in quality. Cars are one of those things that only time will tell how reliable and we'll built the car is. There are many things that can go wrong with cars because of the many components and the Japanese have so far made the most reliable for the past 35+ years.
My 91 735iL had 374k on the clock when I sold it to buy my truck, and it was still running perfectly.
Just keep the fluids changed and fix the leaks that happen and you're good.
I have a 2015 BMW 320i XDrive with now 110k miles on it and never had a single issue outside of 1 small mechanical thing with the passenger seat. Always maintained on time with original BMW parts and BMW suggested oil
Good to see the presence of IQ and independent thinking in the comments.
It is absolutely about the car brand. Different brands may use more desirable tolerances in their engines, the over engineering of the lubrication system, quality of the materials used, etc…
Reliable means that you wouldn’t have to take constant care of it for it to function extended periods of time without stalling, repair etc. This guy avoided the question or doesn’t understand the meaning of the word ”reliability”
I agree. It’s often how you maintain your car and how you drive it that will determine its life! No matter what car, if you treat it like shit it will not last long
Probably wont stop the sensors and modules from going bad.
Bro Japanese muscle cars can be pushed hard with simple maintenance
Well that’s why that era was different,,, no cap when they say “they don’t make em like they used to “ trust me I know , same in England
The man talking in this video , is talking out of his a.rse, he’s totally clueless.
The real reason why German (or any European) car is unreliable is because they are unnecessarily complicated and over engineered, which means more break downs, plus the fact the mechanic (at your expense), will take more time to diagnose and fix the problem. To keep a car reliable, you have to keep it as simple as possible.
Japanese cars (especially Toyotas), are very reliable, because they are more simple.
That's why beemers are so clean. They're towed to the shop and washed weekly.
TDLR: It's not unreliable if you're rich
Americans just probably don’t know how to operate on the German cars and they just let it sit there
Is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard the VW is not a economic car?
Those cars like to sit in the garage and taken out on the weekends 😂
I own and service my own BMW. It's very reliable as long as you replace everything.
Bro bmw’s especially from 2008 until now has the dumbest engineering in the world and the worse reliability ever , fixing those cars is truly mess and nightmare
178k miles on my 335i and still runs strong
That’s not what reliability means but ok
You CAN take care of a BMW and keep it working, it just it breaks down more often than a Japanese or other reliable brands, so yes, it is less reliable actually. Of course, having a reckless previous owner makes the situation a lot worse (don't ask me how I know)
Finally an explanation for why you hear all the hate on German cars which are far better. They last way longer where I live than a Japanese car if you follow the maintenance manual. We use so much road salt in buffalo your Japanese car will crack in half after 15 years vs a German car with solid rust protection which will still be solid. They’re won’t even have visible rust, but your Toyota or Honda will look like shit and not be safe at all.
I've worked on all sorts of cars and despite what others in the comments say, he's right. Properly maintained German cars are solid and well worth the money. I've seen more issues with American and Japanese cars, surprisingly. Their owners are usually pig-headed and don't take care of them. "Why is my Camry breaking down so much??" Well sir, you haven't changed the oil in 15k miles and you beat on it thinking it'll stand the test of time. Of course it's gonna break cuz you don't take care of the damn thing like you're supposed to with ALL cars
Then that’s with the owners and not the car! Fact is Japanese cars are the most reliable cars on the planet. Everyone knows this!
I owned BMW, modification:
intercooler, charge pipe, catless downpipe, boast pipe, BLow off valve, muffler delete and stage 1 tuned, is a beast. 100k plus kilometres without any issues. Some folks saying negative about BMW they don’t own one. Only hear say. . 😂
Meanwhile Toyota Corolla being passed on to the next generation as Great Great Grandfather’s legacy lol 😂
BMW V8s have entered the chat
As a BMW owner, unreliable is facts.
Remember that if you ever feel like an idiot, there’s always the guy in the video that existed before you.
I own a BMW thats babied and well maintained by a BMW specialist. All that plastic crap breaks.
Tell that to my uncle. Took care of a bmw like a baby that shit still broke down
Facts bro I’ve put 40,000 miles on my e90 with no major issues while just doing maintenance
Well Japanese cars, if done right or wrong they will still outlast German cars done right.
This is just saying that as long as you fix everything when it breaks it will be fine, it doesn’t highlight how German cars are constantly in need of expensive repairs, but yes if you take it to a specialist they will keep it going reliably by fixing it all the time and that costs a lot of money
Nah not really, if you drive like a maniac, park it in the rain, and do all kinds of sh!t inside the car it won't be naerly as reliable as someone who looks after the car like a child
It varies manufacturer to manufacturer and model to model, it’s not as simple as Japanese > German in terms of reliability. I’ve seen certain BMWs at the top of reliability surveys while a Nissan X-Trail has been at the bottom.
The V10 M5 enters the conversation 😂😂
Bmw and reliability don't exactly go hand in hand, anything made after 2008 is pretty much dormant electrical problems, and if you really wanna get upset over something, be upset over automotive manufacturers making iron blocks with aluminum heads. If you want reliability get a late 90's-early 2000's truck, Chevy 1500 is a good option, find one with a blown transmission for $1000