Hey Nvidia. Do you know what be more useful than a chart that the community has already figured out for a wider selection process of cases that are actually decent? A power cable that didn’t need 15cm turn radius that also has a tendency to catch fire 🤷🏻♂️
@@muhammadaiman9338 What do you mean standard? The 16-pin 12VHPWR is a standard connector by PCI-SIG, not some jerry-rigged contraption that Nvidia made in the back of a van. It's also backed by multiple brands, including AMD. Nvidia was just first to market with it. Also, lol at "jUst MakE mORe eFFicIENT gPU" as if Ada Lovelace isn't the most efficient architectures we have seen in a while.
Moddiy makes a super flexible silicone jacket cable. It’s much shorter than any right angle cable on the market. I only have 15 mm of clearance in my case and about 11 mm just with all the cable falls naturally. There is no right angle cable that would work in my case so I think that that’s not really a great option
The issue is, is that power connectors could be 180 degrees reversed in the other direction. You need the right cable for the GPU, and also take into consideration 2 or 3 6/8 pin connectors. It's best to take a customized approach to power cabling.
I just built my first SFF PC in December of last year in a FormD T1 and I love it. I honestly feel this is the way I'll be going with my PC builds so I'm happy there is going to be more support and attention to SFF.
So basically Nvidia took PC Part Picker and Neweggs PC builder and made a standard? I mean both PC builders can tell you then max length of the GPU that will fit based on what case you have chosen already. I see the old THX Certified problem again. Before you know it there is going to be SFF Ready (select) and SFF Ready (Ultra) smh.
Devyn you got me so hooked on SFF it has driven me to the brink of OCD, several builds into it and now I see said the blind man. If only I had more $ save save save I say.
I’m currently in the works of building my first PC and I’ve watched all of your itx builds, your craftsmanship on these itx builds is definitely a great guide for me picking out my hardware. I went ahead and bought a RTX 4070 Super founders edition and I plan on going with the 7800X3D with the ROG B650E-I mb. I’m still debating on the case I’d like to go for, it’s between, A4-H20, NR200P V2 or the NCORE 200. I’m leaning more towards the H20 because of how compact it is and still having good airflow. I see most builders going with liquid cooling so that will be a must for me if I’m to go with the H20. Quietness and good temps are my priority for this itx build. I have Arctic cooling fans as well as Noctua’s as an option if I go with the other cases. I absolutely love the design of the NH-D15 chromax cpu cooler, an absolute eye gem! I love watching these builds and I look forward to learning more before I buy my gear!
When I saw your last video, I wished if you could keep the green light effect shot as your pfp because it looked great and while I saw this video on YT homepage, I smiled when I saw you did just that.
Will you be ordering the Xikii Industry FF04 Build? Quite possibly the most beautifully designed mini itx case ever, it's cnc aluminium so around 13kg or so
I feel that this idea of a "standard to deviate from" (what ever that starting point is, now we have one), is long overdue, and therefore very good indeed...now we have an "industry-standard", a starting point, point of relativity to compare & thought-experiment through a build process...very good indeed...it is about time, good on Nvidia!...jo'c
No Dan, FormD or loque on that case list…interesting choice Nvidia. Also, maybe instead of including the ridiculous bend radius of the stock cables, perhaps release right angle, or more flexible official cables
Great video! I just built the same FD Jade case you show with an i7 13700K and 4070 Super FE. I'm having a hard time finding an enclosure to house a 280mm radiator so I can water cool the CPU. Would you know of anything?
0:59 WTF?! The original FE from the 10 series cards WAS the SFF Ready one for sure, before they flood the market with gargantuan ones. They should stick to that standard. smh
yeah i wanted an ITX pc but not the best idea for my first pc ngl so i went for an atx bc for no reason mATX is more expensive in the uk and the options that are cheap are terrible.
Gigabyte has a 4080 super that allows the power adapter to be plugged into the top of the card, running parallel to the length of the card so that the bend can be more gradual. It's really nice in smaller cases. You don't have to worry about bending the cable at all.
Zotac 4080 super Trinity(black and white) is also sff/itx friendly(I tried it in fractal design ridge and nr200p, in both cases, I could still put two 120*15 fans infront/under as extra intake), not the stupid “zotac 4080 Trinity”, not the inhuman “zotac 4080 super amp extreme”, any gpu under/below/lower/after 4090, no need such big ass coolings, it's freaking inhuman and stupid and waste, DEFINITELY!!! amd too, below 7900xtx(only due to the 110'c junction temp issue), no need!!!
bro please help me figure out which matx mobo i should buy. my asus tuf x570 has given me huge issues and im sick of it and asus as a whole. im gonna build in a thermaltake tower 300 so im going matx. sticking with am4 because its good enough for me and so much cheaper
Good luck getting less than 70C temps with a 304mm air-cooled GPU. I could already fit a 33-35cm GPU to 10-12L so what's even the point? This stuff should be more a concern for case manufacturers.
@@denisnatera3633 Dude my 3070 with 2 fans always hit 75C with undervolt. My 4070Ti S with 3 fans never hits 70 even without. Heck even thin 3 fan cards are much worse. I would've loved to have a small card that is just as cool and quiet but it's not gonna happen unless you watercool.
I do love the fractal terra but until I can get two fans on top aint no way beauty is only skin deep. Fractal Please just a couple mm, a redesign they will come!
Hey Nvidia. Do you know what be more useful than a chart that the community has already figured out for a wider selection process of cases that are actually decent?
A power cable that didn’t need 15cm turn radius that also has a tendency to catch fire 🤷🏻♂️
Instructions unclear: releasing 700w gpu that needs 2 of them.
100% what I was thinking. This SFF standard is a Band-Aid for a bad power cable standard.
I got better idea..how about just use standard pcie cables..and design better gpu with more efficient instead of being stagnent in innovation
@@muhammadaiman9338 What do you mean standard? The 16-pin 12VHPWR is a standard connector by PCI-SIG, not some jerry-rigged contraption that Nvidia made in the back of a van. It's also backed by multiple brands, including AMD. Nvidia was just first to market with it. Also, lol at "jUst MakE mORe eFFicIENT gPU" as if Ada Lovelace isn't the most efficient architectures we have seen in a while.
@@krazyfrog eerrmm no…
right angled power cable in the box please
Moddiy makes a super flexible silicone jacket cable. It’s much shorter than any right angle cable on the market. I only have 15 mm of clearance in my case and about 11 mm just with all the cable falls naturally. There is no right angle cable that would work in my case so I think that that’s not really a great option
The issue is, is that power connectors could be 180 degrees reversed in the other direction. You need the right cable for the GPU, and also take into consideration 2 or 3 6/8 pin connectors. It's best to take a customized approach to power cabling.
I just built my first SFF PC in December of last year in a FormD T1 and I love it. I honestly feel this is the way I'll be going with my PC builds so I'm happy there is going to be more support and attention to SFF.
I have been building in SFF cases since 2016 and everyone of them had custom cables, it just makes life easier.
The whole joy of SFF building is the scary excitement of the 'what if it doesnt fit' factor.
that doesn't sound like a joy to me
@@zachbull1038 then SFF isn’t for you..
So basically Nvidia took PC Part Picker and Neweggs PC builder and made a standard? I mean both PC builders can tell you then max length of the GPU that will fit based on what case you have chosen already. I see the old THX Certified problem again. Before you know it there is going to be SFF Ready (select) and SFF Ready (Ultra) smh.
SFF READY (Curated by Jensen™) extra $50 due to licensing fee
@@Kevin-mx4vm 🤣🤣🤣
There's an excel chart for case and GPU sizes as well, from the sff community. It's much more comprehensive.
me : still w8ing for sub 200mm long and 40mm thick 4070/s GPUs
Devyn you got me so hooked on SFF it has driven me to the brink of OCD, several builds into it and now I see said the blind man. If only I had more $ save save save I say.
It's not really a standard if it's nVidia only (and I say that as an nVidia card owner)
I’m currently in the works of building my first PC and I’ve watched all of your itx builds, your craftsmanship on these itx builds is definitely a great guide for me picking out my hardware. I went ahead and bought a RTX 4070 Super founders edition and I plan on going with the 7800X3D with the ROG B650E-I mb. I’m still debating on the case I’d like to go for, it’s between, A4-H20, NR200P V2 or the NCORE 200. I’m leaning more towards the H20 because of how compact it is and still having good airflow. I see most builders going with liquid cooling so that will be a must for me if I’m to go with the H20. Quietness and good temps are my priority for this itx build. I have Arctic cooling fans as well as Noctua’s as an option if I go with the other cases. I absolutely love the design of the NH-D15 chromax cpu cooler, an absolute eye gem! I love watching these builds and I look forward to learning more before I buy my gear!
I also want more emphasis put on portability like handles that actually look good.
I hope they continue to improve the 12vhpwr cable. maybe they can make it more convenient without worrying about any fire hazard issues.
When I saw your last video, I wished if you could keep the green light effect shot as your pfp because it looked great and while I saw this video on YT homepage, I smiled when I saw you did just that.
I just wanna know if the new 50 series will be able to fit this standard because of all of the new power gains
SFF ready should be 2 slots, not 2.5 slots 🥲
another chart in a sea of charts
Will you be ordering the Xikii Industry FF04 Build? Quite possibly the most beautifully designed mini itx case ever, it's cnc aluminium so around 13kg or so
Love your videos! keep on with your great work.
I feel that this idea of a "standard to deviate from" (what ever that starting point is, now we have one), is long overdue, and therefore very good indeed...now we have an "industry-standard", a starting point, point of relativity to compare & thought-experiment through a build process...very good indeed...it is about time, good on Nvidia!...jo'c
4080 super proart is the only high end gpu that will allow for thick radiator in formd t1
Supporting SFF-Ready components by big companies means that they want a competition over console gaming.
SFF seems great, good job
No Dan, FormD or loque on that case list…interesting choice Nvidia. Also, maybe instead of including the ridiculous bend radius of the stock cables, perhaps release right angle, or more flexible official cables
speedy, quality uploads
Great video! I just built the same FD Jade case you show with an i7 13700K and 4070 Super FE. I'm having a hard time finding an enclosure to house a 280mm radiator so I can water cool the CPU. Would you know of anything?
0:59 WTF?! The original FE from the 10 series cards WAS the SFF Ready one for sure, before they flood the market with gargantuan ones. They should stick to that standard.
smh
I’m hoping next year you can get sponsored to go to computex. I love watching your Channel keep up the grind!!!
It’s interesting they have the ASUS Proart range but not the 4070 Dual cards on the list. Step in the right direction for sure
Can you check out the jonsbo z20 case? Its a very minimalist mini mATX case and theres hardly any traction for it.
New video/build for zephyr rtx 4070 itx format? 😅
yeah i wanted an ITX pc but not the best idea for my first pc ngl so i went for an atx bc for no reason mATX is more expensive in the uk and the options that are cheap are terrible.
Gigabyte has a 4080 super that allows the power adapter to be plugged into the top of the card, running parallel to the length of the card so that the bend can be more gradual. It's really nice in smaller cases. You don't have to worry about bending the cable at all.
What I want to know what's the smallest case that I can fit the biggest GPU 4090 in with noctura d15
I just built a pc with the proart 4080 in a coolermaster nr200p max and it was so easy
in that Proart 4080S, is there any coilwhine?
Zotac 4080 super Trinity(black and white) is also sff/itx friendly(I tried it in fractal design ridge and nr200p, in both cases, I could still put two 120*15 fans infront/under as extra intake), not the stupid “zotac 4080 Trinity”, not the inhuman “zotac 4080 super amp extreme”, any gpu under/below/lower/after 4090, no need such big ass coolings, it's freaking inhuman and stupid and waste, DEFINITELY!!! amd too, below 7900xtx(only due to the 110'c junction temp issue), no need!!!
bro please help me figure out which matx mobo i should buy. my asus tuf x570 has given me huge issues and im sick of it and asus as a whole. im gonna build in a thermaltake tower 300 so im going matx. sticking with am4 because its good enough for me and so much cheaper
Good luck getting less than 70C temps with a 304mm air-cooled GPU.
I could already fit a 33-35cm GPU to 10-12L so what's even the point? This stuff should be more a concern for case manufacturers.
Undervolt is the way to go atleast for nvidia gpus
@@denisnatera3633 Dude my 3070 with 2 fans always hit 75C with undervolt. My 4070Ti S with 3 fans never hits 70 even without. Heck even thin 3 fan cards are much worse. I would've loved to have a small card that is just as cool and quiet but it's not gonna happen unless you watercool.
@@denisnatera3633undervolt is the way the go for anything you want undervolted dingus
2:01 Fractal design Era 2 and Mood? So Fractal have 2 sff cases coming this year?
Eeduce the price because building SFF is already expensive
I do love the fractal terra but until I can get two fans on top aint no way beauty is only skin deep. Fractal Please just a couple mm, a redesign they will come!
Fractal Design Mood ????? 1:08
I need a case like Dan C4 sfx that supports around 155mm air cooler . Anyone 🤞
aight
Their standard isn't that small lol
hey! we are supposed to never buy ASUS again.
what's going on?
Yeah was just thinking - why can’t I get a nice, non-gamery GPU like this from any other brand? FE cards aren’t available in my country btw.
Inno3D RTX 4070 Ti Super X2. That's a true SFF graphics card, not this.
Thank you NVidia. Take that AMD.