Where Does $50K Worth of New Truck Get You Off-Road?
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- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) Where Does $50K Worth of New Truck Get You Off-Road? We take a brand new Ram 1500 Nigh Edition versus 1994 Dodge Ram "Dodgezilla" project truck on the Gold Mine Hill off-road test.
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Sooo...."old school" is to not fix the 4 wheel drive?
I got a cummins with 4 wheel drive and 5 speed. I'll crawl up that hill
Bob Kelley a cummins in 4low would idle up that hill lol
Stop asking me to change my name, TH-cam LOL true
+Itz_ya_boi_ryan jffe
well, they had to sell the new models somehow
So to summarize, the truck with working 4wd beats the truck with broken 4wd. Thanks FLT that was really informative.
meme master 69 Yeah. Their videos are garbage.
Jajajah que pendejos!!!!!
Exactly
Ram has no locker either
The old isn’t even comparable no four wheel drive and no diff locks they need to make it fair
VroomVroomSaiguy comparable to a civic as far as off-road ability lol, wouldn’t take that truck in a bad winter lmao
REALLY MAN😳 you tellem
They don’t wanna do that because it will make that new truck look bad for 50 grand.
@@bobbyhansen4370 exactly you get the point
@cablecow15 the old one does have four wheel drive it was just broken
Old school trucks no matter what brand have a certain feel to them when you drive them. it's hard to explain but The newer trucks just don't have that same feel. Sure they might be faster and more reliable but there's just something about driving an old truck that feels good. It's almost as if the older trucks have a soul and you connect with them but newer trucks don't seem to have that. If you drive an older truck you might know what I'm getting at.
Dustin Cox I agree in what you're saying older trucks, just make you feel more original and give you that good feeling inside.
+Noely Deleon excatly
Newer trucks are meant for the suv/crossover mommas... And dads
I've driven my friends 2016 silverado and that thing had no road feel and felt like and over assisted crossover...
I perfer to have road feel especially in a truck that could be dangerous if not driven properly.
Idk of i ever buy a truck I'll probably settle for an old dakota or ranger from before 2005
It's called feeling like a truck. New trucks feel like cars inside and while driving.
devoid of all feedback from car, depending on tech to do the guesswork and offer proper solution...not for me.I for once, like a to "feel" the road, in some cases far better and earlier than any tech. Im dreaded of thought of self driving vehicles...
Fix the old dodge guys ur basically testing a broken truck against a new truck
Exactly, this is the second time they've brought that old truck up to Gold Mine Hill. I thought, okay Mr. Truck fixed his issue with the 4x4 and it'll engage. Nope, Mr. T still wasting our time. It was mildly interesting to see the new truck's traction control deal with that deep hole but mostly another fluff video from these guys to up the video count.
That's what sucks about the vacuum line 4x4s. I'm gonna be putting in a manual pull cable to engage mine.
4x4posi-lok.com
Fix the old truck, then compare.
they just love making fun of that stupid transfer case
Amen.
The Fault in Our Cutie Marks transfer cases have improved for sure but all trucks are way overpriced nowadays, unless you have the money to spare you always buy used
sugaquaks I agree
What's wrong with Mr truck's 4WD? The last couple of videos it's been in it hasn't been working.
I used to have so much respect for the info Kent provided to this channel, but the minute I see someone with a truck with truck rice mudflaps, broken 4x4, and douche balls off the back claiming its off-road worthy, I cannot take anything they say seriously from that moment out.
Yeah I was highly disappointed in this video .... I have feeling that a 2nd gen dodge would do just as good .. if not better .. I have a 2nd gen and I go in some crazy places with it, and it does great.
I liked the second gen. Then I saw the truck nuts 😤
Worst comparison ever, 2 different spots and the old truck was broke
Greg Arena well most old trucks have something wrong
You never actually see him put it in 4-wheel drive so I doubt they ever did and if they did they probably just pulled the vacuum line off of front diff or it came off because of the lift kit Dodge doesn't use locking hubs it is vacuum locked super common trail problem
Next week they do a hauling test with a 90s dodge that has a blown transmission vs a brand new dodge.
PLUS, the old man doesn't even know how to drive tho
Right they keep on using it for tests for what? To show everyone old things break? Cool.
He added those borderline rice mud flaps but didn't fix the 4x4 from the last time? Mr truck we know your better bud.
Joshua Jeremy how are they borderline rice?
Derrick Hamblet they are way oversized for that ram...
At that point the mudflaps are so big that they begin to collect their own mud and dirt
mudflaps are normally meant to stop mud flying off the tires and onto whoever's or whatevers behind the truck
Now when they themselves begin to throw dirt everywhere behind the truck... They're useless.
Those are so big I'd assume their meant for somthing like a 3500 dualy or a small semi... And the reason for that is semis tires could violently explode if they pop so they keep rubber from hitting the cars behind
And a 3500 is just a big wide truck... So it kinda would need a huge mudflap
Joshua Jeremy do you even now what rice means it means race inspired cosmetic enhancement
VIRA gaming yeah and those mudflaps are bigger than the ones that stadium and off road racing trucks use
This is offroading? My god. My stock work truck can do this
Nick Zasadzinski The only trail they test vehicles on that is decent is the "dare" section of Cliffhanger and that is still pretty mild.
Bro my 2009 maxima did this
I sent a stock jeep up the side of a cliff
I think they had the 4 cylinder jeep renegade ran this track.
Nick Zasadzinski stick that new ram in 2 inches of mud and it’ll be stuck
LOL get a real 4x4 your 57k was wasted. The 2nd gen would have made it with 4 wheel drive. This is barely offroad lmao..
We'll get it fixed, I want to find a long deep mud hole for the next contest
MrTruckTV hell yea. Older is better. And like you said a deep mud hole and that 57k worth of scrap wouldn't make it through.
I agree, older is better but maybe not with everything
Come on Kent, fix that transfer case.
P Rex I wonder if it ain’t the front axle they have a vacuum discount on the passenger side.
It probably is the CAD vacuum system on the front axle. Buy the cable system and ditch the vacuum tubing!
MrJamesLuz or ditch all that silly crap , permanently lock the CAD or replace that axle all together and install locking hubs . Now you can install a proper traction differential .
Now put $51,300 into that old truck then compare what gets you the best bang dollar for dollar.
Maybe only cost $10k get more power out of the old dodge
Lol 50k into that thing and you’ll get 10k back
@@xXAnchormonXx Goes for either truck lol. Drive that $57k truck off the lot and you'll be lucky to get $25k out of it in three years. Money better spent bang for the dollar performance and cost savings on the older truck if you plan to keep it longterm.
Need bigger balls on the truck, preferably blue.
I couldn't find bigger ones
1 wheel drive 😂
Yes, no wheel lock
They should have used a second gen with better options. I’ve got a 98 1500 4x4 with a factory sure grip and 3.92’s. It would have been a better comparison...
That 1 wheel drive is better than that 57k truck 😂
Kents truck actually sounds better, the new one doesn't sound good to me.
it would sound better without the rev limiter on it
Down South TV Yeah but the engineers put a rev limiter on her for a reason! Lol
John Doe the Rev limiter sounds like it's at 4,000 rpm lol
josh nalepa close mine cuts it at 4,500
Ryan Chapman really that low? lol I know most diesels have the Rev limiter low for a reason, but this is a god damn hemi. It needs to scream a little lol
Kent hasn't had his transfer case looked at since the last time his 4 wheel drive didn't work? Tisk tisk~
This all happened the same day
He couldn't go up hill because the balls were too heavy 😂😂 not because it was 2WD
Nothing to do with the balls, its the sac hanging too fkg low that scratching the dirts.
listen, these new trucks will never beat full locking 4x4, idc what fancy bullshit these new trucks got.
For off-road duties, I'd take an old school 4x4 with lockers and tires over a new 4x4 gizmoed system any day.
Kcducttaper1 they both have their merits. Love my dads 89 bronco 2 but we both prefer my Raptor
any true off roader would :)
2nd gens rock!
Chase Parks and look so good with a 4th gen bumper on them
I agree! Plus Kent fixed it up to badassery
2nd gens produced a shit transmission
Chase Parks not if you lift a 2wd
Joe Ellis only if you dont take care of it. Not the best but number one thing that kills it is overheating and melting the clutches
Why is this like the 3rd video I've watched that they compared a 2x4 vs 4x4 truck... who would've guessed with a truck stuck in 2x4 without a locker wouldn't go as far as a 4x4 with lockers.
I know right? No shit its not going to go far off road in 2wd. Off road comparison videos are shit. I watched a video the other month comparing the 98 Cherokee vs the 2018 and the trail they went on i could have done in my wifes sedan!
KR 6.4 1wd because it’s got an open diff like the fords 😂
@@axlemarley3082 🤣🤣
they cant sell new models if they compare them on fair terms lmao
"This is a really tough off road course, you need a life kit, big ol tires, and some truck nuts, really manly shit"
*CR-V drives by*
Those nut things are so embarrassing. I honestly wouldn't ride in a truck with those. It's changed my opinion on Mr Truck. Or should I say Mr Schmuck.
Mr M there sort of funny you gotta admit
Jelly Doughnut No, they are pathetic.
Mr M same I thought he was better than that... But he is a short fat man that loves big huge trucks..
Mr M that's a ricer mod
Air suspension is guaranteed to fail after about five years of service. Leaking valves, failed sensors, bad air compressor leaking shocks etc.. As a car manufacturer i would never put a air suspension on a pickup truck. Dodge is playing with fire.
Jack Ptak
IKR?
Just look at Range Rovers. Most of them have bad air suspension.
I would. That's why you upgrade them. And also, this is a street car with a mopar intake and exhaust. It's not meant for offroad, but it has the capability to do so.
Zecrid that's exactly what I based my response on. I have a 2007 land rover range rover sport with 95k miles and I've replaced just about every air suspension related component. It hates cold weather and the cost to repair the system is outrageous!
Jack Ptak depending on the year you can get height and damper adjustable coilovers, it's about $3000 USD. Just a thought
They were competing with the raptor looking for people with deep pockets! For the raptor (Ford) worked well. At the end these are toy trucks for people with plenty of money! They don't mind paying all that on repairs either, since most of them haven't touch a wrench ever! So, yes for people who want to get the most out their vehicles, an air suspension is a bad idea! For the shop guy, no problem...
if you spend 57k on a dodge with a hemi you're smoking crack
Swof I rather get a dodge Cummings with that money
Heckyheck I'd rather buy a powerstroke or duramax but definitely if I'm spending that much I'm getting a diesel.
Swof hemi are terrible in trucks, especially for towing. Theyre prone to overheating and lifting heads
Josh Larochelle id rather spend 16k on a srt 10 and mod it with the rest of the money
McKinley Gilliam just to blow it up by the end of the year. Nice.
New ram: sounds like a vacuum
Old ram: sounds like your classic v8 diesel sound.
The embarrassing part is what is hanging off the back of Kent's truck, what are we, 18 years old? Clearly not.
It's in my contract, I'm 18 years old
I always love seeing your troll ass replies lol
Here's what I'll do, if you folks buy 100,000 of our "Truck Nuts" book, I'll take all the truck nuts off and give them to ....
Enjoy Life who cares there having fun chill out it doesn’t hurt to have a good laugh once in a while
MrTruckTV Don't take them off. It's your truck do whatever the hell you want with it
Lol the swinging balls at 2:47 cuts down on your ground clearance
why did he even have those they just look stupid
Shit my f250 or bronco would do that in 2wd , that's not real offroading that's probably the trail that leads to broke back mountain
Yeah man I'm sitting here thinking "my pos Chevy can make it up in 2wd"
Shots fired
My all original clunker of an F150 that I just bought for $800 could've handled this.
That new grille on the new midnight edition Rams look cheap.
Man O War yeah but if it it is cheap it's cheap to replace if you get in an accident
Man O War that’s because dodge is cheap when was the last time they change body’s or interior or anything? I mean they’ve had the worst crash rating for like 4 years in a row to where you would lose your legs in a front end crash!
Soviet Clutch
If only that were true.
infamouscoma886 that's false
bobhatesrainbows it's most likely blacked out metal and then plastic grill
That Night Edition 1500 is stunning.
Pretty bad when your truck has bigger nuts than you do.....
Need to fix the 4x4 and redo this video. The test invalid
Ridiculous. Why are you including a broken truck with immature truck nutz. Not old vs new. Broken vs not broken. I appreciate the frequent uploads and understand the compromises and creativity required but would prefer less frequent uploads over this stuff.
The ending is priceless lmao 😂
Number1HeatRocka did that crv actually go up the trail
Scratch on a new truck: $3500
Scratch on an old truck: nothing it adds character.
I know they have to make the new one look good, but the 4x4 issue on the 2nd gen is common and easy to fix. The center axle disconnect operates under vacuum. After 20 years, the original lines have got to be dry rotted. I had the same problem with my 99. Went to Advance Auto Parts, showed them the old section and they cut a little bit of vacuum line off a roll in the back, didn't even charge me for it. No problems since then. Also got my ac and cruise back since both of those work off of vacuum too.
Keep these videos coming! If you could do a 2004-2008 against a 2015-2018 F150 review, that'd be amazing. I'd volunteer my 2006, but I'm in Illinois.
Metalbass79 there's nothing wrong with a little road trip
Captain Rudy 4021 Oh, trust me, I've been thinking it. These videos make me wanna try Goldmine Hill, myself. Maybe if I got stuck, I could talk them into a Raptor Rescue video for me.
Metalbass79 your truck sucks cam phasers
Casey Neistat's Nose Yeah, I've heard about the cam phaser issue. Mines good so far. Other than an alternator and the parking brake light being stuck on in the gauge cluster, I've had no real issues with the truck.
Truth is you can take any older model truck/suv, fix it up and mod it to heaven and back and still be cheaper than any newer rig off the shelf. Not to mention if you buy new you STILL have to mod it your way as well so that's even more. Give me an older Tacoma (pre giant body days), 4Runner, XJ and I can have a nicely built out rig with the main cost being time. Even if you're worried about power you can put a super/turbo on the rigs and tune them and likely still be cheaper.
TacticalArtist Why do you choose nasty Toyota?
I could make it up this in my stock 2wd 1500 with an open diff. It's all about momentum and wheel placement.
The old 2nd gen dodge ram has an anti spin dif meaning that it is similar to lsd but it is designed in such a way that makes it a bit better that the lsd but you will still have to apply the parking brake a bit located on the left side of the drivers foot well in order to make it work as a locking dif
I really like Kent's older truck, and tires, and sound, ( I can't help but think that the view from the rear speaks "dirty old man driving."
Kent should have limited slip rear diff, at the very least, and then engage the front axle too, then he would have been up there with the new Ram. I am impressed with that climb and with street/pavement tires as well, WOW!
Yes, there is a dirty ole man driving, I want to do a mud run next after the front axle works. It will cool my big balls off
Nothin' worse, when you admit it, now I can't poke fun at you any more for this. Ha ha ha !
Well then Kent, hurry up and get that front end, or transfer case fixed, I'd like to see this too.
Back at "the home" my nurse said I was suppose to have fun
Kent should be embarrased!!!!LOL.....
Why
I don’t like new trucks because of the interior mostly, I don’t want my work truck looking like a fancy car inside, also if any of the super fancy computer gadgets and air suspension goes out, it is very expensive to fix.
Then buy a base model, they’re pretty bland inside tbh
Electronic parts are more reliable than mechanical parts. That's why on most cars/trucks...its the engine or transmission that goes out before a light bulb or powered accessory...
@@_E_B_ What? That's simply not true. Vehicles throw the CEL for some sensor, etc. way before major mechanical parts if proper maintenance is kept.
2nd gen is still the best. Especially my 24 valve turbo diesel Cummins. Best you can get
Danm bro that's a nice truck
Please do this with Tacomas
We did something like that a while ago. Hope we can do it again. th-cam.com/video/jbmOYTMirrw/w-d-xo.html
This off-roading my Subaru Forester can do thus
That red colour is amazing, the Ram looks so good in it.
I guess in a late model dodge I don’t consider that “Old School” plus I agree nice comparison with one trucks 4 wheel drive broken...
I wish we could get that new RAM over in the UK
iVlog dang that sucks I never thought about that.
iVlog what kind of trucks are over in the uk ?
They do import them into Germany. I'm sure it wouldn't be too tough to get it to the UK from there. I think the biggest issue is that american trucks are as wide as your entire roads.
LOL not quite, SUV's have got bigger and longer. Our Mondeo is your Fusion, Grand Cherokee is just that and have you seem how wide the Porsche Cayenne is. We do also have them imported privately and its not really a drama. We do see Hummer H2 and 3's too.
I think the biggest issue is the steering wheel on the wrong side, in the UK ours is on the right side. ;)
Troy Hatfield In Europe we have trucks that are smaller, such as the Toyota Hilux and VW Amorak. American trucks are taxed to death because the taxes are calculated by weight, size, amount of power, fuel consumption and last but not least emissions. In other words, a $50 000 truck can cost twice in Europe because of taxes.
So you think a 1wd truck and a 4wd truck is good to compare
a $50k truck taken off-road where I take my old mud truck gets you a $50k lawn ornament lmao
I’ve gone up a really steep incline dirt drive way in my 2x4 quad cab 2nd gen 3.9 Dakota and was blown away it climbed it. I had to hit the gas pretty hard but it didn’t skip a beat. Don’t think the guy in the old Ram really knew what he was doing...
2nd fail on the old ram
Get the truck fixed Mr.Truck! These videos are not true representation when your 4x4 is broke.
Them Testicles on the truck 😂
"Big hole?" Ha!
"I can take a 4x4 up a gravel road, that turns into a dirt road, and has a mud puddle at the top of it."
That's bad-ass! Keep up the exciting, nail biting, butt clenching, white knuckle videos!
We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. Lol 4 wd
take both in mint condition then compair in week at moab i rest my case.
There isn't a 97' Dodge in mint condition....It's a 21 year old vehicle...It's not brand new out of the factory so there is guaranteed some issue with it
I love them types if trucks my favorite
The air suspension is just to level the truck when towing? It makes no off road difference?
The CR-v is the real winner
emark24 did that crv actually make it up the trail?
assuming what comes up, must come down
emark24 awd crv is laughing like this ain’t shit
majeda mehdi 4wd crv yep easily easier than that new dodge because it’s shorter.
Another baffling comparison
I don't know how that 2nd gen couldn't do that. I had a stock 2nd gen with the 5.9l and 33s and got everywhere with it
Anyone have any experience with those ram transfer cases over heating in the 4 auto setting? I’ve been told that all 1500 models except the outdoorsman don’t actually have a 4x4 that locks because it has the 4auto mode. I’ve done some digging and it does appear to be an issue. They definitely use different transfer cases.
ill take old skool over new skool any day there's to much restrictions on the new one's
Lmao so much hate on truck nuts. The ultimate troll
Dalton v. Lol. I'm not getting them. But everyone else can.
"Lift kit, body kit, BIG TIRES" you call those big tires lol
Stopped watching after y'all said the old truck is only 2wd. How is this even a comparison?
0:31 look! the truck has testicals lmao!
That's cause he don't
#dodgeownersaregay
A 2nd generation ram like Kent's would walk up that hill in factory config if the 4x4 worked! What kind of comparison is this?! I have a 2nd gen and I like both of these, but Jesus Christ, put $200 into the 90's ram and it would walk up the hill
100% correct.
It would be cool to see a 3rd gen 4runner or a wj against a wk2. These videos are awesome! So glad you guys are going in this direction
Funny, the crossover had to drive up to be going back down 🤣
Ford Raptor
deathraydave all day baby!!!
New Turd vs. Old Turd
BronzeChicken from a Turd
Lmao at the old ass men who drive 45 thinking I even care, Mopar stuff is all junk, that's a fact.
BronzeChicken lol ok
BronzeChicken right on point 😂
RAM TRUCKS well SOMEBODY has a strong opinion!! Jk I totaly agree
I've always loved the look of the 2001 Dodge ram and I like the new ones but I prefer the body of the old they both look amazing tho
I was on the old trucks side up until you said it's 2wd with no diff lock, other than that I think the old one still looks cooler sounds cooler etc
You could of gotten a brand new tundra and done this same old vs new because it's a 11yr old everything on that truck except I don't think a tundra would go up the hill either
Ram and tundra are ostensibly the same as far as off-road capability. Limited slip or open diff, with low clearance. F150 and gm win bc they at least have lockers. Ford's locker is better bc it isn't automatic.
Hasty One tundra is the junk and the people who make it think the people who buy don't deserve a modern truck probly why they sale less than or just above 100000 a yr.
Jonathan Watts Just mad you cant afford a tundra little man
4.2_Trailblazer_racer I drive a 2018 f150 plantium in red. Which blows any tundra off the road
Jonathan Watts when your F150 is dead and gone my Toyotas will still be bookin it out on the streets 😉
I like how there is a Ford going slow down a slope and then there is a Chevy Colorado doing a jump, Fords are trash.🤮
Jetracer112 ypu dont know shit, ford is most reliable
GTA5 LSPDFR you’re stupid. You’ve never owned a truck in your life apparently because of you have ever owned a ford you’d know they are more prone to losing the comforts that make a vehicle feasible. Ac, heat, trans, and the engines most of all are prone to overheating so they take a lot more wear. If you look up these jobs replacing the common ford problems most of them take 6-20 hours to fix and are quite common.
@@joshlarochelle1298 I have a 1990 bronco that literally has over 500,000 miles and still runs. Have a 2009 f150 with the 5.4 that has over 200,000 with no problems
Joseph North then you should know the ford 5.4 is the worst engine ever built. Broncos are nice though
@@joshlarochelle1298 you obviously are just biased and don't really know what you're talking about
HAHAHAHAHAHA was he actually serious when he said "this truck sounds incredible" on the $57,000 truck???
Lmao he put balls on his truck 😂😂
My first truck was a 5.2 97 V8 then I got the 2005 5.7 hemi then a 2018 ram just like this one now I have a 2020 ram limited with 10inch of lift with air ride and 4.10 gear 38s nitto RT and 22x12inch anthem wheels.
The best part of this clip is the dude driving a 50k truck just said he can't break it because it's not his. And the crv is 25k and obviously can do the job of both and will resell after 7 years with 50k miles for 22k
Among many things, the old RAM's big tires are costing him power and torque... Sure they look good but you sacrifice utility.
Thats not off roading that's just a driveway lmao 😂😂
I have had trucks of this kind (not the new truck). I consider them good for mild off road at a slow pace or the mall parking lot. I would NOT want a 57k truck or a body lift or block under the spring kit truck for the off road I like. I bought a full size Bronco and dd some upgrade. Not a lot of lift just 4" but glass fenders to clear 35" tires. Cut and turned TTB independent with long chromoly heim joint mounted radius arms and tall shock towers I bought. Then I gusseted and plated the beams upgraded the axles and joints + bearings seals hubs. Rear tower and Deaver Springs. Run it on King Shocks (WAY WORTH THE COST) I got gears and lockers, I rebuilt and improved my transfer case, bought a Monster trans and drive shafts. WOW it was great. Then the engine needed help. A balanced and blueprinted 408 with AFR heads etc.. All this with killer sound much less than new. A Raptor is nice but $$$$ more. It has 13"front and 13.9" rear wheel travel on good Fox shocks. I have 18" front and 20 rear on KINGS. Can these do anything close to this?
th-cam.com/video/OIYPKwUbzNE/w-d-xo.html or the first run of the Mojave Road with the GF like this th-cam.com/video/LtuWtuR2qIg/w-d-xo.html
I conclude with this
Can you guys do a comparison of the new Toyota Prius vs Jeep Wrangler off-road? I can't seem to decide which one is better. I really want to get the best bang for my buck firewood hauling vehicle. Thanks!
He's going to snag his truck nuts on something and get stuck. Lmao
"Today were comparing four wheel drive trucks. Except one is 2 wheel drive"
When you're stuck with one wheel peel, you need a Leadfoot with an attitude my friend. Oh and by the way get rid of the balls.
My 2wd taco can do all of that & more😂😂😂
I'll stick to my Ram 01' 5 speed. I lost interest in automatic vehicles ever since i was a child. I'd find better ways to spend 57k and still have my truck maybe even a couple more. Lol
old school modified with modern bits is the bomb
Im not taking truck advice from somebody that thinks a $50k plus vehicle is something to have offroad, or someone that drives a singlecab gasser second gen and tucks his pants into his cowboy boots.
Those new dodge trucks don’t even come with a full spare, you just get a bigger donut.
You don't need fancy tech to get up that, do a fair comparison of a older 4wd vs that new one, not a 4wd vs a 2wd with no traction control
For clearance would you recommend taking the side steps off the newer model ram's