Why Suffering can Promote Strength and Health
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We must know suffering, to know joy, therfore they are the ying and yang of eachother.
Edit: I wrote this about a minute before you said it in the video.....
Even in the modern world I think most people do suffer, whether emotionally or physically, even those we think to be the most privileged. Not everyone learns from suffering, some even become addicted to suffering, and then their are those who suffer and die from said suffering. It can have great value, but I disagree with the theory that people are so different than they were in ages past, technology/the world changes people remain the same as they always were.
I wonder if Nietzsche was addicted to drugs or alcohol, what he described sounds like a cycle of addiction, two to three weeks on... then thirty six hours of withdrawal... then repeat. Just an observation, I'm probably wrong (I know Nietzsche claimed to be hardcore straight edge but should we believe him?) It also could have been bipolar disorder? IDK... I feel bad for the guy for sure
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.” ~ Maya Mendoza
"Don't suffer for a society, that hates you." - Random truecell 2020
Fatality quote
What if you have no dreams?
@@frog6054 Dig deeper
@@frog6054 your dreams were killed by something. Now you have to resurrect your dreams. 😇
“To live is to suffer. To survive is to find some meaning in the suffering.”
-Nietzsche
Rip DMX🖤🕊️
To live is to drink the piss from the boot 🥾
If life is suffering, if life is intrinsically unjust and unfair, than life is fundamentally flawed.
If u believe God exist, he has made a inferior creation and his reasoning is it's all our fault and not his even though he is all knowing and created everything as an all knowing being.
Life is suffering, but that is not justifiable even though it's true. Life should be perfect harmony, but unnecessarily it is not that. Unnecessarily, life is suffering.
@@chasemanhattan9995you dont understand our history in the biblical perspective. The life that we know now is the life fallen away from God (what happened in Eden).
Adam & Eve rejected the perfect form of creation fully governed by God and chose to choose for themselves. God on his part, permited this to happen so they and us, all of humanity could see how terrible life is apart from him, so we would go back to Him. We do this in micro form even to our children for them to learn who knows best whats good.
But this period will pass away, and all that choose to go to Him through the completed work of our Lord Jesus Christ, will witness the perfect life as God intended for all eternity. This life and the eternity that is to come, is God showing us both sides of the coin.
“ I asked for strength… And god gave me suffering! My prayers were answered “
It took me many years to understand God was answering my prayers.
I asked God to help me overcome but please let me enjoy my journey and have fun with it. He has been slowly bringing me along. I’m enjoying my journey and my suffering is fed to me without overwhelming me. So far. Please Lord let me continue my path and continue to enjoy life’s challenges.
@@olliefoxx7165sadly there people nowadays that tell you NOT to ask God for things like Strength or patience, because they will/may bring forth suffering or trials. How foolish.
@@kenim😂😂😂
I asked for it, and it's been almost two years of trials and afflictions. I don't know if I should tell people to ask God for it too😂🤦♀️
It feels like I'm wishing them bad, but I know it is necessary to walk with God.
@@yamiletsoler3464 hahahahaha I get you sister! Asked God to know him more intimately and I’ve been in the wilderness for 4 years now! Its been a blessing spiritually but cant deny its extremely hard some times. If you dont have the base knowledge to understand what and why you are going through it, you will not make it.
“Pain doesn’t hurt as much, when it’s all you’ve ever felt”
"That's why I've never needed much, except my beaver pelt"🦫🎶
Who's says Russians and Americans can't collaborate together to write a hit Canadian county song? I don't
Love pain
@@egrytznr8893 Is that your own lyrics lol?
@@interesting2491 yeah, I couldn't help myself
To suffer but remain noble is the hallmark of righteousness.
When you have nothing but your health and mind you realize how important they are in order to have everything else
Most people only appreciate their health when it’s gone. Sadly.
Important, but not crucial, see Victor Frankl, attitude, flexibility of choice around conceptualising, discernment ....
@@veronica_._._._ sounds like the mind to me
@@bwolfe9040 My Mother had a eidetic memory, total recall, that's a hard act to follow.
There are some exceptions like stephen hawking
suffering promotes strength and character. However, suffering for a long period of time produces depression and self doubt.
The timing of these i swear, just when i feel like i have sunk into the abyss! Invaluable content!
Exactly.
Sending love and light friend, I too suffer dark nights of the soul. Carry on and take delight in the smallest of life's miracles, bird song, the play of light on the leaves after a rainstorm, the sound of a wind chime during a gentle breeze. Know that this too shall pass as life is truly an ebb and flow.✨💖✨
I felt the same way!
Feel exactly the same way. Just had a really positive Dr. Appointment in that I'm getting great results and a real health turnaround from a diet and exercise regime that I absolutley hate!
I can relate
I was once told to "Go into my suffering. Welcome my suffering. Greet it as if it's an old friend, because infact it is." Suffering is your friend.
Man I’m in the midst of the worst phase of my life and this video just made me cry.
It gives me hope. Thank you for making this video 🙏
May you find some moments of harmony within your day that bring some light in the shade and continue to bring you hope. Crying is a great release when we resonate with the message. Music can be so healing too.
You can do it, friend. Remember you have gotten through 💯 of your bad days so far. After the shit cycle as I call it always, always comes a golden cycle. You have a lot to look forward to whether you can see it now or not it’s true.
Maybe Alan Watts, Einzelgänger, Pursuit of Wonder, After Skool, School of life and/or Like stories of old can help you a little further.... Good to see you see it as a phase btw!
You will make it trough
When four strangers reply to you with such kind words you know the world isn't such a bad place. Best wishes.
People talking about timely occurrence of this video in the comments just proves that there’s always someone going through some rough times. I wish you all great endurance ✊ I wish you all to come out of whatever dark hole you’ve found yourselves in.
May God Bless you.
Thank you
Thank you & Amen
It's easy to forget, when reading Nietzsche, in how much pain he truly was throughout his life. Imagine being afflicted with migraines so intense they cause temporary blindness. Knowing that when you're feeling good, that's when you need to get your writing done, before another migraine attack makes it impossible. This is why he was able to write so much in such a short time; he was acutely aware of his limited time.
I believe he suffered from Bipolar Disorder which was not understood yet at the time.
"If there is no struggle, there is no progress."
- Frederick Douglass
"We cannot cure the world of sorrows, but we can choose to live in joy. When we talk about settling the world’s problems, we’re barking up the wrong tree. The world is perfect. It’s a mess. It has always been a mess. We are not going to change it." - Joseph Campbell
Sounds like an excuse to not to do anything good
@@JDog2656
No ones saying that at all. It’s just knowing which battles to fight. Like racism, yes it’s good we have decided on law with racism. But this constant culture war on policing thought is fruitless. Someone will always be a fucking asshole ;)
@@maximilian6829 oh I agree when you put it that way 😅. Of course picking and choosing your battles is important. Just try not to walk the thin line between that and apathy
Everyone should read Joseph Campbell
@Chunky knight beefy sword Hemingway didn't follow his own advice, did he?
This is why I like prolonged fasting, after enduring a week or more of not eating, food tastes better than I can remember, I feel renewed somehow, like sipping from the fountain of youth. It was a 2 week fast that put my nasal polyps into complete remission, of which I have suffered with for 10 years, last year being the worst, total blockage and no sense of smell, now I can smell again, now I feel alive again.
Am a Muslim who's currently fasting Ramadan! Well doing it indeed equates rebirth! You can learn to fast 2 days a weak , I can't state the amount of benefits it has regarding your health/mental state and senses as a whole
I think fasting is a cure for all disease I think fasting is the way to truly stay healthy
I’m currently living in my car. I have a good health, job and good mental health. I don’t sabotage my experience. I am experiencing some kind of beautiful “suffering”.
This past winter was very cold but I survived. At one point, it was so windy that a three fell a few feet from my car. Not after two days did it dawn on me that I could of been crushed. But I have goals, I have good luck, I have a good attitude and I have self love.
Thank you for this video. Cause it reassures me that I’m okay with this temporary “suffering” I see and experience thing’s different from my colleagues.
Stay safe and I love you all. Keep going and never give up.
This is why I’ve been so weak. I had it all too easy for just about my whole life. I’ve never gone through some of the stuff most everyone around me has been through. I’ve never even been punched in the face before. Now I’m 23, still live with my parents, and don’t have enough life skills, but I know I’ll get there soon enough
Essential Reading-- Charles Dickens, Victor Hugo, and last but not least O Henry.
I highly suggest travelling! Not tourism, real travelling. Just a backpack and see where the wind takes you. You could also volunteer and get some vicarious understanding of suffering. I think it’s admirable that you realise your ‘good fortune’ and what you stand to gain from a little suffering. It speaks to your self awareness. Good luck friend.
Eliminate comfort. Embrace pain. Embrace fear. Embrace the work.
We. May start to realize our PC culture which strives to avoid offending any marginalized people, and yet insults and berates the majority, does little more than weaken the marginalized and strengthen those they seek to put down. This has been the Natural order through history. The conquerors grow weak. The conquered become strong. Putting down the hegemony, only going to strengthen it
@@susannahwhite7561 thanks! :)
@@zaddyholmes6735 I definitely want to travel and possibly like do some volunteer work once I can. Thank you :)
I’ve always found these lines morbidly inspiring from him: “To those human beings who are of any concern to me I wish suffering, desolation, sickness, ill-treatment, indignities-I wish that they should not remain unfamiliar with profound self-contempt, the torture of self-mistrust, the wretchedness of the vanquished: I have no pity for them, because I wish them the only thing that can prove today whether one is worth anything or not-that one endures.” My guy is just wishing I suffer so I have the opportunity to overcome it and grow stronger. Ya son of a bitch
[Edit] Disclaimer: Unlike Neech, I do not wish suffering on any of you. That line above was in his unpublished notes so even he hesitated to say that out loud. I wish everyone peace, prosperity, good fortune. But when you do come across unavoidable suffering in your life, I hope you find the strength to bear it and move forward.
Lol...true
Dillon!
He wasn't lying tho......
And he who has such wishes, wishes for him to be the at the best of ability and of mind. One who squandered the gift given will be unfulfilled or inadequate.
Lol 😂 from now on whenever someone requests me to give a toast 🥂 I’m going to use this quote ✌️
Keep in mind: Overcoming suffering is good, causing suffering to others isn't. There is also suffering caused by nature, and suffering caused by totalitarianism.
what's the plan to avoid suffering inflicted on you?
@@omarisaxby8939 do you have one? Or are ya just asking this Erikson dude for his personal "suffering avoidance plan"? Maybe we can all compare plans?...
What's yours?
@@omarisaxby8939 don't avoid, overcome. If an oppressor is making you suffer, you destroy him.
Totalitarianism stems from people who desperately want to avoid suffering. They believe they can shape the world according to their ideals and then everyone will be happy, but that's not how it works and they, like everyone else, inevitably suffers for it.
Causing suffering to others is bad? Wow. Thanks for this enlightening piece of advice, I hadn't thought of it before.
As a Byzantine prayer goes, "... Strike me and heal me, cast me down and raise me up." Every morning we ask for this during our prayers.
O Lord, I do not know what to ask of You.
You alone know what my true needs are.
You love me more
than I myself know how to love.
Help me to see my real needs
which are concealed from me.
I do not dare to ask for either
a cross or for consolation.
I can only wait on You.
My heart is open to You.
Visit me and help me,
for the sake of your great mercy.
Strike me and heal me;
cast me down and raise me up.
I worship in silence for Your holy will
and Your unsearchable ways.
I offer myself as a sacrifice to You.
I have no other desire than to fulfill Your will.
Teach me to pray.
Pray Yourself in me.
So much wisdom and humility in this one comment. Thank you
Beautiful
Not all my suffering has lead to greatness but all my greatness came from suffering.
"For suffering's value only comes to those who are will to endure it, and face it head on"
Believe me, whilst suffering makes you grow, it does not promote health.
I’ve been disabled for two years. Yeah it’s a journey. Intense pain that you couldn’t believe. But it doesn’t make you healthier.
What’s being confused with is hardship, comfort and suffering,
Hardship is fine. But most westerners in their comfort consider hardship suffering.
You don’t know true suffering. Most westerners don’t suffer until they’re very very old, and their bodies start breaking down.
But most westerners are like children. Hardship doesn’t make you grow. Only suffering does. Suffering changes you. You are metaphysically different..
Thank you for your enormous contribution towards a sane narrative.
how did u do that? making a contraption?
@@sultanaljuhani1571 there’s a button that says ‘thanks’ near the other buttons below the title
@@sultanaljuhani1571 and don’t you mean contribution?
oh god what is this
@@sultanaljuhani1571 contribution you mean haha
I’m currently suffering from migraines and anxiety, I’ve been with this affliction for a year but I’m finally pulling out. Thank you for posting this. I never knew of Nietzsche’s affliction and I feel almost pampered now that I know that his affliction, in that time, was incurable. God has helped me through this, and he’s helped me once again by giving me this video. Thank you so much!
"He who has a why to live can bear almost any how".
-Nietzsche
There is nothing more needed and ought to want to desire in this dire generation than 2 crucial aspects: courage and suffering.
"Opposites are not to be resolved by eliminating the one we dislike" -- I love this quote! Dreams and aspirations might cause disappointment, but they're also a source of immense joy. I would much rather live with dreams than without them; I want to taste both the happiness and suffering they offer; I want to experience * everything * more deeply and colorfully. Amor fati!
"How little you know of happiness, you comfortable and benevolent people!"
My dreams have brought suffering to me. I don't know how to turn it around. Or if there's time to make them come true.
Suffering can have different effects on different people, and whether it makes or breaks a person can depend on various factors such as their resilience, coping skills, support system, and the nature of the suffering itself.
For some individuals, suffering can make them stronger, more empathetic, and more determined to overcome obstacles. It can teach them valuable life lessons and help them develop a deeper sense of meaning and purpose in life. Suffering can also lead some people to seek out new experiences, relationships, or ways of thinking that they may not have explored otherwise.
On the other hand, suffering can also break some individuals, leading to negative outcomes such as depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), addiction, or even suicide. This can be especially true if the suffering is chronic, severe, or occurs during a vulnerable period of a person's life.
It's essential to acknowledge that everyone's experiences with suffering are unique, and it's not always possible to predict how a person will respond to it. It's crucial to seek help from mental health professionals or other support systems if you or someone you know is struggling with the effects of suffering.
nice chatgpt
Props to Academy of Ideas for keeping the light of true philosophy lit for 10 years in a row; and not becoming a pop philosophy channel like the others !!
Foreal tho
The best
I think it's the sign of making peace with all outcomes. Standing for freedom, so much persecution these last 2 years but in my soul I am free, made peace with all outcomes but will stand for freedom until the end.
Before people watching this go out and start fights with random people to introduce "suffering" into their lives, know that you can also 'suffer' to a certain extent by learning something that you find extremely difficult or that holds zero interest for you. Pursuing an intellectual subject you "hate" not only gives you confidence and even a boost of strength, it increases your discipline.
For me it’s the understanding that you can’t have good without evil. If you only had good then good becomes meaningless.
Instead of wanting everything to be good all the time I strive to build resilience towards the bad. To appreciate it and accept it and all aspects of this existence. The challenge is fun.
I cannot thank you enough for your videos. My father has his Doctorate in Philosophy and I was raised to view the world this way. He's 79 and has MSA. I send him your videos and he loves them.
To be raised by a philosopher! What great endeavors are you working on in life?
I don't react often but I want to say that I watch all your video's and they are very comforting and the artworks that you use to illustrate your story are a treat for the eyes.
Too much suffering can destroy a person's will also.
It can, but it doesn't have to. Perspective is everything. It's like being lost in a forest and realizing with a different vantage point you can see over the trees and get yourself on a new path, even though from where you currently are it's not entirely clear. Or, navigating a maze that's so dark you can't see the path or the walls. Every maze has only two walls, if you follow one of them with your hand, you will eventually find the exit. It's about identifying whatever information is available and making the best use of it. When your will is broken you have resigned to taking all information from that which inflicts your suffering; you have decided you are not in control. If you follow that principle, the only outcome left is death or madness.
@@ProbablePaul for many especially in this day and age that is easier said than done
@@markjulianoriginalhooli2217 That's very true.
surrender
@@bimbomancer 😅🌹
This was amazing.
The timing of this was perfect. Just finished a turbulent semester. Lost job, partner and grades taking a hit. But now as I have made it through such stress, I feel accomplished and glad of what I went thru
This channel is such a profound blessing to the world. Thank you guys for doing what you do. Now more than ever, we need messages like this to be shown to the masses.
Sadly, I find many are unable to understand such messages because they are ignorant of their ignorance, either by choice or by coercion.
@@clogs4956 that is valid. I frequently forget how few genuinely want to be better. Not always by choice, to add to your point, unfortunately that is the case.
I like the Buddhist term Dukkha which translates roughly as discomfort, stress, misery and pain. There is always this Dukkha present in life experiences.
No test no testament... Work hard everyday and build the mountains of your legacy one rock at a time... If you woke up today you are blessed with the greatest gift we as humans have, the present. All the money on earth couldn't buy 1 second... Stay BLESSED 🙏🏻
One of my favorite quotes from Charles Kingsley's "The Heros" "'I am Pallas Athene; and I know the thoughts of all men's hearts, and discern their manhood or their baseness. And from the souls of clay I turn away, and they are blest, but not by me. They fatten at ease, like sheep in the pasture, and eat what they did not sow, like oxen in the stall. They grow and spread, like the gourd along the ground; but, like the gourd, they give no shade to the traveller, and when they are ripe death gathers them, and they go down unloved into hell, and their name vanishes out of the land.
'But to the souls of fire I give more fire, and to those who are manful I give a might more than man's. These are the heroes, the sons of the Immortals, who are blest, but not like the souls of clay. For I drive them forth by strange paths, Perseus, that they may fight the Titans and the monsters, the enemies of Gods and men. Through doubt and need, danger and battle, I drive them; and some of them are slain in the flower of youth, no man knows when or where; and some of them win noble names, and a fair and green old age; but what will be their latter end I know not, and none, save Zeus, the father of Gods and men. Tell me now, Perseus, which of these two sorts of men seem to you more blest?'
Another great video! You can't appreciate the peaks without going through the valleys.
Became an Academy of Ideas member a few months back, it was very affordable, content is world class, and I couldn’t be happier with my choice!!
David Goggins is a perfect example of this, create yourself from suffering and enjoy it
I remember well my own suffering and now everyday feels easy to me. I still have my occasional issues that arises but now I’m in control of it and approach it head on. As JFK once said “Do not pray for an easy lives. Pray to become stronger men.”
wish i was there, brother. glad you got through it.
@@beaustur You’ll find your own fortitude, even in the darkest place in the world. You’ll see it and find an affirming yes to one self.
@@damianwootten thank you, 🙏
"Pain is a gift. Humanity, without pain, would know neither fear nor pity. Without fear, there could be no humility, and every man would be a monster. The recognition of pain and fear in others give rise in us to pity, and in our pity is our humanity, our redemption."
- Dean Koontz
Pity is for the weak
I am so glad I have had such a hard life. I thought being abandoned was the hardest thing a kid could go thru, and it prob is... It made me so durable, tough, happy, and grateful for the simple things. Life is a cake walk when you go thru pain while developing. It just turns you into a very capable adult able to take on anything, and not scared to do it... Success is on the other side lol
"Profound suffering may make you noble, but it won't make you breed." - Mohandas Karamcha(n)d Gandhi, the art of war.
Lol ghandi is a rapist, anything he has said can be yeeted
@vampire Your sv is determined by your genes. Being noble is just a bonus on your attractiveness. It has nearly 0 effect on passing on your genes.
It takes me 30 minutes to watch these 10 minute videos because of the depth of knowledge. Thank you.
You know even though I'll be turning 35 soon I still think of myself as a cowardly person, I'm not where I want to be or have the things I want in life, that so many others have achieved because of fear. This video has given me an insight that in not facing my fears; rejection from the opposite sex, jobs, denying myself the right to suffer and instead stay comfy (which can be suffering in and of itself), makes a person metally weaker. This is evident in my own avoident milktoast mentality and numbing myself, with so many senseless, instant gratification TH-cam videos.
I'm reading a book on how to change perspective on beliefs and therefore suffering, in order to become an emotionally balanced and stronger person. To every man, woman and children out there I pray for your suffering to see you through.
"To progress again, man must remake himself. And he cannot remake himself without suffering. For he is both the marble and the sculptor. In order to uncover his true visage he must shatter his own substance with heavy blows of his hammer." ~ Alexis Carrel
I turned 35 in January.
Not where I wanted to or thought I’d be.
Never married, No children.
I suspect there’s many of us at this point thinking..
Is this it ?
But here we are.
Then I think… why do I have to live my life in a certain way by certain societal milestones.
The only thing that brings me joy in life is helping others..
Pretty sure I couldn’t do that as a mothering housewife.
So do what genuinely makes you happy.. whatever that is.
I recommend "The upside of stress" by Kelly McGonigal
Truly one of the best channels available on TH-cam 🏅
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That last quote is exactly what a Psilocybin experience is like for me.
I went through some really hard times (almost died twice within a 2 year period) and it made me a more resilient person. I lost 100+lbs and got in pretty good shape. I’m a lot more confident and fearless. I know those two incidents were a catalyst for my new self.
"Life seems pleasing only to the fool. The wise regard it with indifference, and consider death just as acceptable." - Epicurus
Coming from the username of "Daath" I suppose that is your point of view. Life is worth living while you are not suffering. You will find the unhealthy only have one wish, to get their health back.
@@paulpolymath Because they're suffering from having a body (life)! You're life is a worthless bubble and this is demonstrated by its constant insufficiency and the promise of destruction. Keep deluding yourself.
@@paulpolymath Life may be worth living when you are not suffering, but suffering is inevitable. Your bit about the unhealthy wanting their health back, what do you think that proves exactly?
Wonder what Epicurus was smoking
@@jerryharanczyk Serious wisdom.
Perfect timing just when I'm on the verge of giving up. Thanks a whole lot.
I looked at my mangled hand, index finger tissue hanging by one tendon, index finger bone de-gloved and exposed, the rest of my hand white from having the blood crushed out and two deep tears that nearly took off the thumb. It was a bad day or so it seemed. I look back at that moment and realized it was the moment I most needed. My life's direction would have been my ruin. That moment changed my direction. I can honestly say "Thank you God for that moment of misery."
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Now when I hear the word suffering, I always think to the special sentences supposedly said by the Bouddha like something like this : ´´ life is only suffering but when you accept it, you no longer suffer.´´
I don't know, man. I've seen good people--loving, caring, generous, trusting--suffer and never come back from it. Whether they help people succeed in the workspace only to be backstabbed and fired by that same person, or betrayed by a partner who they truly loved and sacrificed for, it's hard to ever come back from that abyss. To willingly give your soul to work, people, or a cause and be deeply betrayed, that's an evil that drives good men insane.
We shine Bright...
Because we came from the Dark.
Yes, it's true and this is the way the world is run today, the filth control society and it will get much worse.
What to do in such an evil situation.
Preach! 👏
Exactly! Suffering subtracts from us, takes from us.
Suffering does not PROVIDE, ACHIEVE, OR PRODUCE. There is no nobility to be gained from suffering. Suffering as some noble goal is incredibly self-destructive at best and all of this rhetoric about "suffering good" is pain worship.
As horrible as those scenarios are, they are simply a test of life.
Nobody owns or has the ability to manipulate your emotions, except for yourself. The key is to learn to master your emotions during trying times.
This can be done by first applying understanding, acceptance & forgiveness.
Those that wrong you are at a different stage of their life journey.
Understand that we are all different and we do wrong.
Accept that you are not in control of other people's behaviour & will always be at the mercy of it.
Accept that these things have happened, that they do not feel good. Accept & allow time for yourself to work through the pain.
Forgive, knowing that the person who wronged you is responsible for their own karmic debts, and wish them better for their life.
This is a great test of strength.
We build character through trying scenarios such as these.
Don't run from your hurt by adopting a victim mentality. That's simply delaying and prolonging your own suffering. Embrace it, work through your emotions and grow stronger and wiser.
These are the tests of life. Life is imperfectly perfect.
Life has always been hell. Suffering is all I know and I've forgotten the meaning of hope.
Suffering is part of Life's seasons. It too, shall always pass. It is to learn the spiritual lesson of Faith to be stretched, like a muscle, to be able to grow spiritually, and endure life's future battles. It also enhances Joy, when it comes later-🎯💯🔥☘️👍🙂
I'm happy for normal people who are suffering since they could deal with the challenges and turn into a better being while for those who are clinically diagnosed with disorder and diseases that aren't really that curable and is heavily demanding of support from others. Go people who are suffering without such issues, you have the potential to become heroes for the suffering
I've been watching this channel for years, and the extreme synchronicity in which the videos come just in time for something I'm specifically dealing with at the moment is incredible.
It's a pretty common experience among viewers, from what I can see in the comments.
Thanks.
This video has completely encompassed my life so far. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I can’t say it enough. I’m almost homeless but this will help my suffering isn’t a punishment it is refining me and I do not have to stay here where I am at because I now know how low I can go and how high I think I can go. I will do better. I will do better. I will do better. I will do better. I will do better.
I appreciate not using b-roll as so many youtubers do these days. The art is really fantastic and makes each video memorable.
Videos like this are wonderful reminders to keep on going. Perseverance is key to success kings.
I think it is important to distinguish between suffering and trauma... Even though suffering is an inevitable path of life and what makes us strong, trauma create the exact opposite and brings out the worse of people, many of the mental illnesses we see today comes from trauma, that is, negative experiences that people faces that their minds just can't endure, it is not because you want someone to "grow up" that you should just brush aside their feelings, treat them as if they are worthless, humiliate them and worse abuse them, just so that they will experience "hardship" that is not wanting someone to grow but in the contrary want to destroy them.
Can being the operative word here. I have suffered my entire life and I am neither strong nor healthy.
I wonder whether this idea of suffering isn't just a conditioned element of human conditioning.
The most interesting people are those who have greatly suffered and made it out. Its no coincidence that the most beloved characters from movies/tv/books are the ones that are immature and unimpressive at first but through trials and tribulation they emerge from it transformed.
This changes everything for the better , trees are not strong without a little rain and wind 🕊️🌍🙏🎶
Your timing is phenomenal AOI. Just what I needed to hear.
Thank you!🌻
Love your channel! This clip was amazing as we need it so much to explain and reason the existence of suffering.
Thank you and Peace in Christ
They whose minds are least sensitive to calamity, and whose hands are most quick to meet it, are the greatest men and the greatest communities. We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school. Thucydides
I’m in longterm benzo withdrawal. If anyone has encountered it they will know how terrible it is. I have barely left my bed in 9 months. I can’t imagine a more horrific existence. This video has helped. Thank you.
I haven't experienced it but I've read a lot about it and I am so sorry that you're going through this.
Suffering is the easiest of all human activities. Being happy the hardest, and happiness requires, not surrender to guilt, but emancipation from guilt.
Exactly, it's not suffering that betters a person, rather the desire to achieve happiness.
Suffering does not PROVIDE, ACHIEVE, OR PRODUCE.
There is no nobility to be gained from suffering.
Suffering as some noble goal is incredibly self-destructive at best and all of this rhetoric about "suffering good" is pain worship.
Hard Pass on the mental gymnastics in this video and the failure of its philosophy.
Actually, as one of the other videos points out, living with meaning is what creates the joy and happiness that holds out the longest. Happiness is not a goal to achieve, it is a feeling that comes and goes.
You read my mind, I was wondering when there would be new content from. Academy of Ideas
As of this moment i am bedridden with sickness. Torment with every hour and nihilistic thoughts that consume all other hope.
I reached out for my phone to find distraction, in this forrest of torture that i was crossing once again.
The title caught my attention, as i have been hearing about this idea of a possitive outlook on suffering, especially in reference to, by now, ancient times.
Like a shining light descending from the black sky, these words gave me hope that i have not known yet.
With every second sentence it came closer until it reached me. I will keep this white orb with me until the moment i pass away, be it once again in a wasteland of madness, or in a heavenly garden.
I am still marching through these blackend woods of pain, the only difference, a new companion of strength and hope.
I cried.
Not tears of suffering, but of seing suffering as it truly is.
"If you have to be persuaded, reminded, bullied, pressured,
incentivized, lied to, guilt tripped, cohersed, socially shamed,
Censored, threatened, paid, and
Criminalized, if all
Of this is necessary to gain your compliance,
you
can
Be
Absolutely certain what is being promoted is not in your best interest, to whom understand the truth I love you guys,
You remind me that I'm not going crazy, and
That the state of affairs of our time is
Abhorrently pathological, I wish you all
And myself the strength to endure what is to come." ~ Larry Lee
This is so wonderful and insightful. The last 3 years of my life has been physically agonizing, but I have felt my heart grow tremendously as I have gone through this.
When you hit 15 years of physical agony, let me know if you feel the same. My husband is suffering like Job, and it’s hard to find any upside at all…other than he is a good role model for quiet endurance.
Blessings to you. (And I sincerely hope you do not suffer the same. 💚)
“More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance...”
Endurance for what? More suffering?
@@minecwaftcat4474 yes
"He who has a why to live can bear almost any how"
Friedrich Nietzsche
“To [suffer] with reason, is to be alive with reason.” -SLC Punk
Your work means so much to me. Thank you.
Good to have you back, Academy of Ideas! Happy to see you haven't faded in the least; on the contrary, still as strong, concise, and relevent as ever.👍
The suffering I've encountered in the past made me appreciate the success I've achieved in recent years
The battlefield is in your mind!
Take captive your thoughts and bring them under submission. The weapons of this warfare are not of this world. Powers and principalities are at hand. But keep up the good fight on your own if you like 👍
Rising above all the suffering is what's really satisfactory.
"In always trying to escape, deny, or mask our suffering, we fail to harvest its value"
Sheesh... what a quote. I really needed to hear this.
Scientist meets theologian:
“At this moment it seems as though science will never be able to raise the curtain on the mystery of creation. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”[1]
I’ll never be able to afford the courses but please keep putting out videos. Makes me feel less alone
I needed this so much today. Thank you.
I love this. Keep up the good work. “that which you need the most will be found where you least wish to look”.
If I’m suffering I turn to God. My suffering always goes away and with the power of perspective my pain always seems easy to overcome. Suffering is a human condition and even those who suffer more than most never suffer more than others. Perspective is the key.
No one ever promised life would be easy..without the bad you'd never appreciate the good..I've had my share of bad and I'm a happy person..I haven't nailed my foot to the floor so I wallow in self- pity and don't enjoy life.. you can't change whats over...you can be bitter or better...you can make your future better.
Excellent and very relevant to my life right now. Thank you!
Thank you AoI, the presentations that you do always spark significant and profound thought within me, and I leave empowered to take the influx of ideas back to my own audience. Always been a huge inspiration for me, hope to one day have the opportunity to pick your brain. My thoughts below:
We don't experience stress for no reason - it is a vital part of our body's natural defense system. It proactively keeps us out of trouble.
Suffering is the aggregate of stress experienced by the body over time, and it once we are relieved of it, we never ever forget. It is an incredibly powerful tool to keep us motivated to never ever get into a situation wherein we experience suffering again. But the trouble comes when we experience suffering that we have no control over. Suffering from things that we do not have control over is tragedy. And in these situations, we can only learn to better manage the hardship. As you rightfully pointed out, if we have the strength to overcome _significant_ suffering, we can become unstoppable.
People have gotten way too comfortable and secure in their own safe box that any form of suffering is unbearable. Intolerance to mental pain will make a person weak. I've heard people shriek and break down over the smallest things
Your videos always succeed in shifting my perception.
This time it bounced me back from suicidal thoughts. All this pain is just the payment for my ambitions, and I have to learn to handle it, own it and move on
I've always spoken in favor of some suffering, pain or discomfort, enduring and persevering through hardships and struggles, to me those experiences enrich life and enhance ones sense of self, it makes everything in the world all the more sweet and lovely, oddly enough. My partner is the opposite, he seeks nothing but pleasure and satisfaction, believes the world and people should only ever be happy and elated, that pain or suffering is unnecessary and "dumb". He runs from the uncomfortable or even just mundane/boring life experiences and challenges through alcohol and pure resistance/denial. idk if a marriage between a hedonist and a stoic is foreseeable, but we'll see....
I don't believe it to bode well when a man should act this way. Scripture teaches the man should lead in Christ (treating everyone the way you wish to be treated, even to those who wrong you), and Jordan Peterson emphasized that in nature, men are orderly and logical while women are chaotic who make decisions based on emotions. Though I do believe disciplined, experienced women make great advisors and make themselves presentable to their partners and in public just as men do too. Perhaps, be the advisor here and tell him what you would appreciate him growing into. A true test to see if he has the capabilities of being molded into a better man.
My fiancée is like him and it takes me "suffering" to try and teach her the errors of her ways. Arguments arise sometimes and I have to give tough love. She does teach me with better language, settling my outbursts, giving me motivational drive, become more outspoken, and have more empathy. I fall prey to addictions as well as her but I do try to lead us and make logical decisions for our future seeing how the struggles these days are becoming harder. She has already decided without me asking to let me take financial control of our marriage. Her upbringing was sheltered, spoiled, and anxiety-induced and does have some mental diagnoses that effects her to be this way. But I love her and she and I work pretty well at building up together. I pray you two grow, beat the heavy odds of "breaking up/divorce," and succeed as well. 🙏
You may balance each other out. It could be a "match made in heaven." But be cautious about his recreational alcohol/drug intake. If he's an addict, than you two definitely have some hardships and suffering to (hopefully) confront and overcome in the future.
Truly grateful for this refreshing message on the utility of meaningful suffering/discomfort
Slavoy Zizek said that happiness is a "byproduct." Find something you regard as meaningful and work on it. Have a goal. It will bring moments or even phases of happiness. It's better than constantly focusing on happiness and chasing it.