For real! How do you not even know about the Turkish domination of Greece and the absolutely devastating impact of both world wars, communism, and fascism just in the last century alone?
@@estebanembroglio6371 I’ve met lots of people who interpret Jesus’s words “You will know a tree by its fruit” practically this way. They’ve never read Psalm 73 (72 in LXX numbering)
Tfw worldwide is dropping turkey, iran, bangladesg, tunisia are below tfr now. European birthrates even in the early 1900s were high and they were some what Christian, before it was even higher English puritans had a tfr of 10
Like what is even his argument here? How does Christianity in his mind cause lower birthrates (or only lower European birthrates)? If anything I would say its prominence within a culture contributes to the opposite.
Just to counter a few of this guys points. He says everywhere the Anglos were is thriving. False. Everywhere the Anglos were is in downfall and slipping into decay. Second he says that we are speaking english, a Germanic language. Also false. English is PART Germanic, it’s mostly Latin and some French aswell. French is derived from mostly Latin, and Latin is mostly derived from Greek. Our alphabet is also Greek. I’m also “Scots-Irish” and my priest is of Scottish decent. Thank God Christianity saved us from paganism.
English is a Germanic language. Old English was somewhat mutually intelligible with Old Norse 1000 years ago because they were so closely related. Old Norse is the ancestor of today's Scandinavian languages (Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Icelandic). It is true that over the centuries there was a lot of French and Latin influence on English, but its origins remain primarily Germanic. Latin & its alphabet do not derive from Greek. Latin & Greek are separate branches of the Indo-European language family tree. Their alphabets are related in that they both derive from the Phoenician alphabet, but the Latin alphabet is not based on the Greek one.
@@alfredvickers4054 it’s not 1000 years ago. The modern English we speak is not Old English and neither you nor I could understand anyone speaking Old English 1000 years ago. That’s because the language has absorbed alot of Latin and French, like I said. And as for your second point, wether what you said is true or not doesn’t matter. My point stands that we our alphabet is not Germanic.
@@hippopilot6750 The parts of England that have proper remnants of culture are mixed with southern Celtic-Brythonic, closest in ethnic relation to the U.K constituent nation of Wales (Welsh people). America is an entirely bigger problem because there is no official language, even less culture, and no Monarchy. New South Wales (AU) New Zealand (NZ) the Pacific North West (BC) may have enough Celtic-ness to be assertive as an oceanic culture, the pragmatic people of England will be a kind of global trading hub as the lingua-franca.
@@James.E41 America is one of the biggest countries geographically and varies greatly in terrain and weather depending on region. It would be correct to say in its care a Germanic culture is not there but that its Germanic people who settled there developed into unique cultures of their own in the varying regions. Appalachians for example.
Even his whole argument begs the question of why should economy even be considered as a factor of religious truth, at all. I mean Greece is a pretty successful country in other aspects, for example it has the lowest suicide rate in Europe, is among the most patriotic & is a lot more spiritually sound than the west etc. which I'd argue are a lot more important than "economy". And even in terms of material success and economy, this guy, as most westerners, completely ignores Byzantine history. His north European ancestors would talk about Miklagard as if it were heaven on earth.
True, even the Italian Renaissance period which many trad-caths take pride on was highly influenced by Byzantine migrant scholars who moved to different Italian states before the byzantine empire fell.
The British Isles were backwards pagan tribes fighting each other and with help of christ they conquered 25% of the world, making amazing architecture, culture, history, values. Loool i can't bro.
That’s just as dumb as pegans. The Religion didn’t allow them to do any of that, otherwise how do you explain non Christian empires conquering massive territories and making advances in science and technology? It were the right circumstances that allowed them to do what they did.
Everywhere the Anglosaxons were is thriving. TFW Australian. > Record house prices > Record immigration from culturally incompatible countries > Stagnant wages > Inflation out of control > Crime increasing > Fertility rate in free fall > Depression, obesity etc. increasing and health system falling apart > An entire generation or two of Australians facing the very real scenario of NEVER owning their own home unless they inherit their parent's home (if it doesn't get sold to pay off debts, aged care costs, cruise ship holidays etc. after they retire and downsize) > Politicians and corporations who benefit from all this and call you stupid, racist, conspiracy theorist etc. etc. if you call them out.
@@eg4848 "It could be worse" really isn't a positive argument when the country is in its worst economic situation since WW2, and cultural state in its recorded history and no sign of it improving. We aren't even a majority "Christian" country anymore according to the last census if I recall correctly.
@@aspirewot8408 They were weak though. They were savages who only could raid some poor villages and have a chimpout every so often because they can't create, but only destroy. When they caught the ire of the kingdom they folded and capitulated within what, less than 300 years? Completely wiped out. Gone from existence. The only reason why anyone is a larpagan today is because 1. They watched some viking shows, probably made by an abrahamic religion believer. and 2. They haven't caught the ire of an abrahamic religion, which would snap larpagans in half if they were to be taken seriously. And by the way, I do enjoy wardruna and music/shows centered around that time, and I'm not even particularly religious. But the way larpagans talk is annoying and embarrassing. Like literal autists.
@@RP-dy5mu yeah and what about crusaders who were savages to pagans ? U know how they persecuted pagans and their beliefs ? You've no idea dude , also no that's not the real reason ,people are realizing our ancestral religion and roots that's why lol. What would you say about Greek pagans they watched Vikings too ? Wake up . And we know more about Abrahamic faith than you do
@@aspirewot8408 The christians did not come to pagans with a sword. It was the other way around. Pagans opened that door of violence, and justice was served. Pagans are the equivalent of Hamas attacking Israel and then crying that they are getting their ass blown out. Maybe, just maybe, don't attack innocent people, and you won't get crucified.
This dude was just a folkish troll.. I was Norse pagan for 9 years and became Orthodox last year. Even I have better arguments to remain pagan than he does. There’s another person in my parish who was Norse pagan for 20 years before being baptized this year, I feel we need to band together to help our Norse pagan brethren see the light of Orthodoxy
As a European who takes his ancestry seriously, this is just humiliating. Our pagan ancestors believed their gods were real, so much so that many of them practiced human sacrificed. Neo-pagans always hold some weird Jungian/Nietzschian view that wasn't present in the old Germanics at all. They had a dark and brutal religion that they followed consciously, and Christ freed them.
im conflicted, Im not sure what to believe. Jesus essentially says that the Jews are more important to him than the gentiles in Matthew 15:21-28. He even refers to the gentiles as "pets or dogs" and the jews as the "master." He even says he came only for the House Of Israel. Some Christians say that the word dog in this passage means like a house pet instead of a wild dog but to me that doesn't seem much better. Doesn't that mean that we gentiles are nothing more than an afterhought? Maybe I just have weak faith but its made me rethink being Christian.
Don't forget about the Roman Centurion (a gentile) and Jesus comment about that man's faith, Matthew 8:10 "Truly, I tell you, with no one in Israel have I found such faith."
Read Acts. The gentiles are grafted in to Israel (the Church). (Multiple times the Jews are scorned for not following the tenants of the faith and being rebellious and disregarding Christ.) This is why every heretical group that denies the Church is Israel ends up in some larpy clownish philosemitic monkey dance. (See all dispensationalists and their ilk)
Jesus’s initial ministry before His death and resurrection was for the Israelites (not just the Jews). That doesn’t mean He likes them more than non-Israelites. You’re misunderstanding this and misrepresenting the entire passage. The whole conversation He has with her is a means of showing her humility to the disciples. Christ ultimately accepts and helps her, which shows us how the Gentiles are to become part of the body of Christ as well. Israelites (not Jews specifically because Jews were only those from the tribe of Judah, but there are 12 total tribes) were only the chosen people because they were the ones who believed in God. The pagans didn’t. However, you seem to think this is a race issue and all your focus is one a single tribe, excluding 11 others that were part of Israel and the chosen. Several figures in the Old Testament, including Abraham, were NOT ethnically Jewish, yet they were part of the chosen people.
+MackBanjo23 the Canaanite woman craftily debates Jesus so that she might secure a blessing from him. And Jesus refines the faith of the Canaanite woman so that it can reach its most beautiful expression that is revealed in humility and blesses her with the curing of her daughter - he gives her the true food - he simultaneosly shows to his disciples how whoever humbles himself he shall be exalted. Whereas the Jews in the immediate context rejected the teaching of Christ the Lord and being fed from him. I mean, it is after blessing the Canaanite woman that Christ literally comes to a Gentile region and cures them from their diseases and feeds them. This is why Matthew indicates that it is "the God of Israel" whom they glorified also giving an indication by this title that these are gentiles to whom Christ is ministering. And he is ministering among thousands of them! The restoration of the House of Israel in the OT is described in terms of the northern kingdom mixing up with the nations, for example, in Hosea and then the restoration of it together with the nations. It is precisely why Ephraim, the Son of Joseph and then the name for the northern kingdom, in Genesis 48 will become many nations and why Joseph in Genesis 49 is called a fruitful bough whose branches ran over the wall. Why? Because Joseph is the convertor and the feeder of the Gentiles, carrying out a prophetic ministry to them. This is why Pharaoh says in Genesis 41 that the Spirit of the holy God is in him and in Genesis 43:19-23 we see another converted egyptian who worships the God of Abraham. Whereas Jacob's ministry to the canaanites in Genesis 34 failed and he became "a stench in the nose of canaanites" because of Simeon and Levi's wickedness and sin as a result of which they are cursed in Genesis 49, Joseph in Genesis 37 is brought to egypt with an incense caravan - he becomes a pleasing aroma in the nose of egyptians and not only to the egyptians, but the nations of the earth. "The lost sheep of house of Israel" in Matthew 15 is intentionally ambiguous and also entails a primary ministry to the Jews so that they might have no basis and justification for their unfaithfulness and denial of their own Messiah. This relates to the redemption of the remnant of Israel after which the ministry expands forward to the Gentiles as it the root that has to be sanctified first so that the Gentiles might become grafted upon so that they too may be sanctified and become Israel of God.
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intro too tough
"If God is good, then why greek economy bad?"
"Paganism is self-evident" was quite the banger
For real! How do you not even know about the Turkish domination of Greece and the absolutely devastating impact of both world wars, communism, and fascism just in the last century alone?
Thats a new one 😂
the whole fixation on divinity being dependent on material things in the material world, really goes to show where it comes from
@@estebanembroglio6371
I’ve met lots of people who interpret Jesus’s words “You will know a tree by its fruit” practically this way. They’ve never read Psalm 73 (72 in LXX numbering)
That pagan was smooth brained, never ask what skin colour his girlfriend is
Varg vikernes is pagan his gf is white u can cope
"European birthrate has declined because of Christianity"
"What about the high birthrates in the Christian African countries?"
"EXACTLY"
huh?🤣
he doesn't like blacks
He is a race worshipper. 😂
Has he also forgotten about basically Europe in history?
Tfw worldwide is dropping turkey, iran, bangladesg, tunisia are below tfr now. European birthrates even in the early 1900s were high and they were some what Christian, before it was even higher English puritans had a tfr of 10
Like what is even his argument here? How does Christianity in his mind cause lower birthrates (or only lower European birthrates)? If anything I would say its prominence within a culture contributes to the opposite.
Just to counter a few of this guys points. He says everywhere the Anglos were is thriving. False. Everywhere the Anglos were is in downfall and slipping into decay. Second he says that we are speaking english, a Germanic language. Also false. English is PART Germanic, it’s mostly Latin and some French aswell. French is derived from mostly Latin, and Latin is mostly derived from Greek. Our alphabet is also Greek. I’m also “Scots-Irish” and my priest is of Scottish decent. Thank God Christianity saved us from paganism.
English is a Germanic language. Old English was somewhat mutually intelligible with Old Norse 1000 years ago because they were so closely related. Old Norse is the ancestor of today's Scandinavian languages (Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Icelandic). It is true that over the centuries there was a lot of French and Latin influence on English, but its origins remain primarily Germanic. Latin & its alphabet do not derive from Greek. Latin & Greek are separate branches of the Indo-European language family tree. Their alphabets are related in that they both derive from the Phoenician alphabet, but the Latin alphabet is not based on the Greek one.
@@alfredvickers4054 it’s not 1000 years ago. The modern English we speak is not Old English and neither you nor I could understand anyone speaking Old English 1000 years ago. That’s because the language has absorbed alot of Latin and French, like I said. And as for your second point, wether what you said is true or not doesn’t matter. My point stands that we our alphabet is not Germanic.
Anglo-Saxons and their adjacents' culture is still primarily Germanic. The point being missed was our success also came from becoming Christian.
@@hippopilot6750 The parts of England that have proper remnants of culture are mixed with southern Celtic-Brythonic, closest in ethnic relation to the U.K constituent nation of Wales (Welsh people).
America is an entirely bigger problem because there is no official language, even less culture, and no Monarchy. New South Wales (AU) New Zealand (NZ) the Pacific North West (BC) may have enough Celtic-ness to be assertive as an oceanic culture, the pragmatic people of England will be a kind of global trading hub as the lingua-franca.
@@James.E41 America is one of the biggest countries geographically and varies greatly in terrain and weather depending on region. It would be correct to say in its care a Germanic culture is not there but that its Germanic people who settled there developed into unique cultures of their own in the varying regions. Appalachians for example.
Even his whole argument begs the question of why should economy even be considered as a factor of religious truth, at all. I mean Greece is a pretty successful country in other aspects, for example it has the lowest suicide rate in Europe, is among the most patriotic & is a lot more spiritually sound than the west etc. which I'd argue are a lot more important than "economy".
And even in terms of material success and economy, this guy, as most westerners, completely ignores Byzantine history. His north European ancestors would talk about Miklagard as if it were heaven on earth.
True, even the Italian Renaissance period which many trad-caths take pride on was highly influenced by Byzantine migrant scholars who moved to different Italian states before the byzantine empire fell.
Pray for the West, amigos.
The British Isles were backwards pagan tribes fighting each other and with help of christ they conquered 25% of the world, making amazing architecture, culture, history, values. Loool i can't bro.
Viking's 😂
That’s just as dumb as pegans. The Religion didn’t allow them to do any of that, otherwise how do you explain non Christian empires conquering massive territories and making advances in science and technology? It were the right circumstances that allowed them to do what they did.
This guy actually believes that the european settlers were pagan? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
This dude is a perfect example of pagans today.
Yes Europeans before Christianity were pagans
@@aspirewot8408 not during the colonization of the new world XD
@@aspirewot8408 Exactly but no European fully descends from ancient Europeans.
@@awreckedislethisfunction7748Braindead comment.
Everywhere the Anglosaxons were is thriving.
TFW Australian.
> Record house prices
> Record immigration from culturally incompatible countries
> Stagnant wages
> Inflation out of control
> Crime increasing
> Fertility rate in free fall
> Depression, obesity etc. increasing and health system falling apart
> An entire generation or two of Australians facing the very real scenario of NEVER owning their own home unless they inherit their parent's home (if it doesn't get sold to pay off debts, aged care costs, cruise ship holidays etc. after they retire and downsize)
> Politicians and corporations who benefit from all this and call you stupid, racist, conspiracy theorist etc. etc. if you call them out.
The head of all evil in our current world is literally a anglo-saxon nation (America).
so real. genuinely a country in crisis.
Australia is way better than most countries and they conquered it so ya
@@eg4848 "It could be worse" really isn't a positive argument when the country is in its worst economic situation since WW2, and cultural state in its recorded history and no sign of it improving. We aren't even a majority "Christian" country anymore according to the last census if I recall correctly.
It's a tough time to be Australian.
paganism is all about strenght... unless you are being conquered by the weak Christians.
Vikings were weak ? 😂 ': brah
@@aspirewot8408 They were weak though. They were savages who only could raid some poor villages and have a chimpout every so often because they can't create, but only destroy. When they caught the ire of the kingdom they folded and capitulated within what, less than 300 years? Completely wiped out. Gone from existence. The only reason why anyone is a larpagan today is because 1. They watched some viking shows, probably made by an abrahamic religion believer. and 2. They haven't caught the ire of an abrahamic religion, which would snap larpagans in half if they were to be taken seriously.
And by the way, I do enjoy wardruna and music/shows centered around that time, and I'm not even particularly religious. But the way larpagans talk is annoying and embarrassing. Like literal autists.
@@RP-dy5mu yeah and what about crusaders who were savages to pagans ? U know how they persecuted pagans and their beliefs ? You've no idea dude , also no that's not the real reason ,people are realizing our ancestral religion and roots that's why lol. What would you say about Greek pagans they watched Vikings too ? Wake up . And we know more about Abrahamic faith than you do
@@aspirewot8408 The christians did not come to pagans with a sword. It was the other way around. Pagans opened that door of violence, and justice was served. Pagans are the equivalent of Hamas attacking Israel and then crying that they are getting their ass blown out. Maybe, just maybe, don't attack innocent people, and you won't get crucified.
@@RP-dy5mu yeah sure bud
Based on this guy's accent, he's either black or from the deep south, the fact that he larps as pagan is hilarious
Varg vikernes is black too ? ..Lot of Europeans are pagan bud
Definitely not black... Lol
This dude was just a folkish troll.. I was Norse pagan for 9 years and became Orthodox last year. Even I have better arguments to remain pagan than he does.
There’s another person in my parish who was Norse pagan for 20 years before being baptized this year, I feel we need to band together to help our Norse pagan brethren see the light of Orthodoxy
Few things are more authentically Norse than converting to Christianity, after all.
Watch varg vikernes . Paganism is your culture 😂
@@aspirewot8408Cultural artifact is the better term
@@aspirewot8408 YHWH is the God of Europe.
Were you an actual pagan believer? And your norse friend, was he actually a believer in Norse gods?
This pagan guy doesn't seem to have had any actual arguments. All of the claims he made were weak and unsupported.
Jeem intro goes insane 🔥
God bless you, Jeem, for having the patience to deal with this midwittery.
Jeem is getting ridiculous and I love it
15 seconds ago is crazy 🙏
poor Trevie flip flops all over the place......talk about moving the goalposts! lol
Jeem “the Dream” Apologetics Lebanon Times Best Selling Author
We Anglo-Saxons wuz kangz we dominated da wrld n shieeet n da paganisms wuz self-evidences
stronk viking tribez
We wuz chieftains till the Christian man came 😭😭😭
Yeah and y'all wanna be Vikings they were pagans . I'd say listen to Varg vikernes
As a European who takes his ancestry seriously, this is just humiliating. Our pagan ancestors believed their gods were real, so much so that many of them practiced human sacrificed.
Neo-pagans always hold some weird Jungian/Nietzschian view that wasn't present in the old Germanics at all.
They had a dark and brutal religion that they followed consciously, and Christ freed them.
@@helpIthinkmylegsaregone cope
We wuz norse gods and shiet
This is too funny 😂😂
That intro tho🔥
Nothing in this world is more cringe then modern, western neopagans.
"Worship the Old Gods" dawg I'm Jewish, my Old God is just the like... the real God XD
modern judaism doesn't worship the God of the Bible
Jeem 😎 Jim 🥶 Jym 🔥
Did he actually mean to say that pagans fled to America from the Roman church or did you just talk past each other?
Is this a Southern pagan? His ancestors were Christian going over to America.
Bro what’s that intro😭😭
I love hat he changes intros every video. It makes me watch some of his videos that I don't want to watch just to see the intro.
Can you have a discussion with Arvoll? It should be interesting.
Trevie saying you don’t get baptized you get murked doesn’t prove claim at all just asserts claim as truth
im conflicted, Im not sure what to believe. Jesus essentially says that the Jews are more important to him than the gentiles in Matthew 15:21-28. He even refers to the gentiles as "pets or dogs" and the jews as the "master." He even says he came only for the House Of Israel. Some Christians say that the word dog in this passage means like a house pet instead of a wild dog but to me that doesn't seem much better. Doesn't that mean that we gentiles are nothing more than an afterhought? Maybe I just have weak faith but its made me rethink being Christian.
Don't forget about the Roman Centurion (a gentile) and Jesus comment about that man's faith, Matthew 8:10 "Truly, I tell you, with no one in Israel have I found such faith."
Read Romans 9, Galatians 3 and Acts 10
Read Acts. The gentiles are grafted in to Israel (the Church). (Multiple times the Jews are scorned for not following the tenants of the faith and being rebellious and disregarding Christ.)
This is why every heretical group that denies the Church is Israel ends up in some larpy clownish philosemitic monkey dance. (See all dispensationalists and their ilk)
Jesus’s initial ministry before His death and resurrection was for the Israelites (not just the Jews). That doesn’t mean He likes them more than non-Israelites. You’re misunderstanding this and misrepresenting the entire passage. The whole conversation He has with her is a means of showing her humility to the disciples. Christ ultimately accepts and helps her, which shows us how the Gentiles are to become part of the body of Christ as well.
Israelites (not Jews specifically because Jews were only those from the tribe of Judah, but there are 12 total tribes) were only the chosen people because they were the ones who believed in God. The pagans didn’t. However, you seem to think this is a race issue and all your focus is one a single tribe, excluding 11 others that were part of Israel and the chosen. Several figures in the Old Testament, including Abraham, were NOT ethnically Jewish, yet they were part of the chosen people.
+MackBanjo23 the Canaanite woman craftily debates Jesus so that she might secure a blessing from him. And Jesus refines the faith of the Canaanite woman so that it can reach its most beautiful expression that is revealed in humility and blesses her with the curing of her daughter - he gives her the true food - he simultaneosly shows to his disciples how whoever humbles himself he shall be exalted. Whereas the Jews in the immediate context rejected the teaching of Christ the Lord and being fed from him.
I mean, it is after blessing the Canaanite woman that Christ literally comes to a Gentile region and cures them from their diseases and feeds them. This is why Matthew indicates that it is "the God of Israel" whom they glorified also giving an indication by this title that these are gentiles to whom Christ is ministering. And he is ministering among thousands of them!
The restoration of the House of Israel in the OT is described in terms of the northern kingdom mixing up with the nations, for example, in Hosea and then the restoration of it together with the nations. It is precisely why Ephraim, the Son of Joseph and then the name for the northern kingdom, in Genesis 48 will become many nations and why Joseph in Genesis 49 is called a fruitful bough whose branches ran over the wall. Why? Because Joseph is the convertor and the feeder of the Gentiles, carrying out a prophetic ministry to them. This is why Pharaoh says in Genesis 41 that the Spirit of the holy God is in him and in Genesis 43:19-23 we see another converted egyptian who worships the God of Abraham.
Whereas Jacob's ministry to the canaanites in Genesis 34 failed and he became "a stench in the nose of canaanites" because of Simeon and Levi's wickedness and sin as a result of which they are cursed in Genesis 49, Joseph in Genesis 37 is brought to egypt with an incense caravan - he becomes a pleasing aroma in the nose of egyptians and not only to the egyptians, but the nations of the earth.
"The lost sheep of house of Israel" in Matthew 15 is intentionally ambiguous and also entails a primary ministry to the Jews so that they might have no basis and justification for their unfaithfulness and denial of their own Messiah. This relates to the redemption of the remnant of Israel after which the ministry expands forward to the Gentiles as it the root that has to be sanctified first so that the Gentiles might become grafted upon so that they too may be sanctified and become Israel of God.
This guy is a tiktok pagan 😂😂😂
The ancestors are as the least among us cast out into the periphery among the colonized in pursuit of faustian progress
The faustian spirit of the settler is based entirely on desecration of the ancestors
We wuz vikangz
young jeem looks like young drake 💀💀
We Wuz Vikings
This guy doesn't know anything remotely historical. How is it possible to be this uninformed?
"Waaaaaah they be opressin and replacing our troo yuropoor pagay culture 🥺😭"
The culture:
th-cam.com/video/QkGvblv_ts4/w-d-xo.html
Lmao 🤣
@@YeshuaHamashiach5791 When they're that damn easy to mock, they're not really that great are they?