First time seeing the channel, long time whiskey drinker. So I think at least 3 of the 5 bottles are NDP sourced whiskeys. Most of these are trading off their reputations and likely won’t be around in a few years. There’s only so many ways you can spin 4-6 year mgp juice. For Four Gate, the whiskey tubers will need to be impressed with these because at the $200+ price point, most buyers would be very hesitant to pull the trigger given it sounds like the quality is starting to lack. Same boat that Bookers bourbon is in. Great video!!
I always come here to check my SANITY ! . . . good episode . . . beware of channels that can not say bad things or condoning that childish "chasing-hunting" thing . . . Cheers !
I'm rolling my eyes with Barrel, Penelope and Bardstown. How many damn bourbons y'all gonna push out?? Perfect a small amount first. I think the next thing will be roasted cherry Barrel, aged at 2 years and 1 month , then sunk below sea level where mermaids lightly move diamond staves to a sea salt finish. Gimme a break
What a great episode and thank you both. As a rye lover I thought I was the only one that didn't like willet 4 year a rye. I actually poured the 3/4 of a bottle I had left out Have a good one
Actually at my local Total Wine Nulu got a big dose of humble pie. They had prominent shelf placing and were selling for $90-$100 each for the special finishes, etc. Nobody was buying at all. They dropped them to $77 and they’re still sitting there.
Great video guys! There's so much low level crap selling at ridiculous prices. Just give me a bottle of OGD114 for 29 bucks and I'm a happy camper. Cheers!
What I am running into is, when I finish a good bottle and buy a new one of the same thing it just does not taste as good? I am not talking barrel type bottles but regular $50 type shelf stuff?
I've run into that when a craft distiller goes from their (usually MGP) sourced juice to the juice they have been making. Same bottle. Very different profile and usually the MGP was better.
Wow. Thank you for this video. I watch your channel because your palate usually aligns with mine. These are all bottles I have wanted to purchase. I think I will try them at a bar before purchasing a bottle
Willet 4 year makes amazing… AMAZING old fashioneds. It’s so magical. It’s 75% rye in the mash bill and I learned the really good ones are over 110 proof. So if you see 114 or above always a banger. Also, it’s the only rye I like which turns really sweet when you add water. I never drink this one neat. Just dump a bunch of ice in a coffee mug and let it turn sweet and dilly. I do love the dill note and get super disappointed when it’s not there or not as prevalent. But yes, overall their quality has gone done in the last 4-5 years. I stopped buying 1920 new label, on my 3rd willet bottle in 4 years and probably won’t buy another for a while. I stopped buying regular WT 101, (the 70th anniversary was amazing) I stopped buying whistle pig anything, I stopped buying ECBPs, I stopped buying buffalo trace, I stopped buying eh Taylor small batch, I stopped buying anything MGP sourced. I’m done. For that money I just get a nice bottle of peated scotch instead.
Yea the whole whiskey row line got worse after the label change. I don’t buy any of them anymore. It’s not the same as it used to be. Super disappointing.
I just picked up 1910 and it has zero banna , cherry or any of the notes that people say. It's a smooth sipper for sure but I'd probably think 40 or 45 is a fair price
It's videos like these that I'm thankful for when finding who to continue watching or discovering who to avoid watching. David has the opposite palate for whiskey than what I enjoy, as Penelope 4 grain barrel strength and Nulu double oak are among my favorites. Perhaps he has some "bad" bottles, or perhaps I am lucky and find "good" bottles, but I enjoy the delicious sweet oak, subtle leather, and caramel notes from Nulu double oak. I agree about the pricing though. Penelope 4 grain barrel strength is surprisingly delicate for the proof and a super easy sipper. In a previous video David (to my amazement) likes Heaven Hill grain to glass rye which is unimpressive at best even if it were half the price, while about a month ago, didn't like my favorite double oak bourbon (Peerless). Iguess I will agree to disagree. I've seen about 30 or so videos and I'm seeing he is starting to drift away from whiskey videos and doing odd EDC and "how to be a real man type of bravado, insecurity lure type videos. It is what it is I guess. Good luck to you in the future David.
I think a good general rule is finding a pallet and recommendation that matches your own to be able to explore new labels. I have a nulu btl and it is a single barrel pick from the boys over at Bourbon Pursuit. This is a bottle we can get behind and enjoy, also it’s a toasted barrel to keep in mind, which often from certain brand releases can create lots of variance. Some may like them some may not; just because you liked one batch doesn’t mean you like another
The willet can be amazing or awful I've had two bottles and experienced both. The amazing one I had I'd kill to get another of the other went mostly down the sink. Haven't had that fourgate but the Kelvin VI is amazing I bought a backup of it I liked it so much.
The Nulu Toasted Small Batch is delicious. For $85 I think the value is there. I like it as much or better than my Old Forester SBBS picks at the same price. However, the ECBP Toasted picks outshine the Nulu Toasted, but those come in at $100 in my area.
I heard so much good stuff about the michters toasted. I got the 2023 sour mash, super flat, muted, and thin. Then i got the 2024 toasted barrel proof rye, again, super muted, thin, and flat. I paid 100 for the toasted sour mash. 125 or 130 for the toasted barrel proof rye. Not impressed, at all!! Ive had maybe 2 pours from each bottle that had some decent flavors. Like the marshmellow note. But most of the time i go into it, its so muted and lacking complexity. I have a nulu wheated toasted pick that is absolutely phenomenal!!
The willet 4 year rye varies a TON batch to batch. The bottle i had was absolutely amazing and crushed 200 dollar allocated bottles in blinds. But ive seen others that were very underwhelming. The only thing i can guess is thw proof. If you can get the batches that are over 110 (my batch was 114), they are better
That willet description makes me want to try it. I do have one but it’s four or five years old so it may not be the same. Have a few four gate that are good but they’ve never been worth the price. Not a fan of Penelope in general love michters so I’m quite surprised and you guys at one time had me curious to try a nulu but I never did so I guess I missed my chance.
I feel the same about Penelope as a whole. I didn’t like the Rose but their 15 year American light is good and I liked the 9 year estate series that came out recently.
I always support "negative" whiskey content if it means spotlighting brands of subpar quality and absurd prices. Bad business deserves to be called out.
i'm surprised with the willet rye, i have 2. and yes, they are single barrels, but my first one is ever so slight oak, vanilla, and a hint of spice, idk if i just got an older one, or if it's the barrel or what, but the one i have is fantastic and one of my personal favorite rye whiskeys i own. i also got it for 60 bucks, which, with the notes you have, not worth 60 lol. i hope my backup is just as good as my first one. time will tell. the nulu, i have a double oaked, paid 100 for it i think, and it's fantastic. it's a caramel bomb, though, to be fair, it is a store pick so it could very well be that i got a good bottle, and others arent worth it. assuming i got the exact same juice, i'd rebuy my nulu DO no doubt. the other 3, i havent ever tried, so i'll be sure to try before i buy any of them.
Agreed. I won’t buy at 80 90, but saw one for 65-70 and grabbed it. Hell, I think it was $59 and Total wine was trying to move them. Sagamore is so much better.
I like Nulu. I have a double oak pick from a local place as well as a local pick for the toasted. I bought both for 60-70 and didn’t feel ripped off. I would recommend it at that price. Definitely not worth more and I constantly see them on “sale” at TW for those prices discounted from 100-110. The Michters toasted bourbon I liked, was kind of dissapointed because for 120 I thought it would be better, the nose is better than the palette. I agree with the willet rye when you clearly can buy a barrel proof JD that’s much better in quality.
I haven’t had some of these but the willet is on point. I was able to find a bottle for the first time and I took 1 sip and just said no and was angry I spent the money on the bottle. After that it was poured down the drain. Never buying another one.
Regarding Nulu: own a few single barrels that are good. I tasted their core lineup when visiting the distillery. Only walked away with a single barrel and their take on aged agave.
Thanks! I don't owe any of those brands except a Michter's SmB ($45) and three Penelopes (all under $50) including the CS, none of which I've cracked yet. I will continue to avoid the others brands and not add any more Penelope until I try those that I already own. I'll do own a Shenks and a Bombergers too.
I have a Penelope BS from 4-5 years ago and its pretty good but not amazing. I still have half the bottle but its not one I've been nursing. That would be my Wilderness Trail Single Barrel.
100 Percent on point with the Penelope. The bottles and myself are like reverse poles on a magnet. The closer my hand gets - the more my brain pushes my hand away. Don't see the hype especially for the more $$$ bottles.
I find it a little odd to criticize a brand for quality going downhill while presenting batch 4 (!) from Four Gate. What are they on now, like 30 batches plus special releases. Also that bottle was released in 2019, how long has it been open?
@ but David is literally dogging the old stuff while drinking that exact old stuff saying it’s not as good as the old stuff. I’m pretty sure the batch 4 he’s drinking came out the very first year Four Gate bottled. I’d track with you if he had a recent batch in his glen. I don’t necessarily disagree with the sentiment - though last year’s Kelvin Sixty was a banger.
You shouldn’t comment on videos you don’t like. The algorithm will keep suggesting the ones you show “interest” in. It also helps the video grow. Appreciate your opinion but just thought you should know.
I couldn’t agree more on the Willet 4yr rye! It’s not good! Gave my bottle away! I have a Michters Toasted bourbon that has a nice nose, starts okay on the palate and it’s terrible on the finish/aftertaste. All the Nulu I’ve tried they are all terrible. The others I’ve never had. Cheers!
I like the Willet rye profile a lot, BUT the last bottle I bought tasted like it had quality issues. Soooo yeah. Never buying that again unless I can try it first.
Hate me, but I thought the last one was gonna be a Stagg. I have the same tasting notes on several of the recents I've tried: 23B, 24B, 24C. Bitter bitter endings.
I'm just an average novice of bourbons, but I know what I like. Also, I can't bring myself to dishing out more than say, a hundred dollars for any one bottle. My pallet, is not that sophisticated. There are plenty of 10 to 15 year old bourbons at my price point, that are just fine.
I've been whiskey drinking for about 6 years now and I can say I'm coming back around to regular bottles I can get when I want and really the higher aged stuff isn't always what I prefer. For example I like the Knob Creek 9 ($30), 12 ($65) and 18 ($180) and they are all readily available to me. I like12 but not sure it is worth the premium over the 9 and 18 is my least favorite.
@@gregsmith5132 I tried the Woodford Reserve 30 bucks, for the first time, and it was killer good. And I can get Buffalo Trace 33, Eagle Rare for 45. Lots of great sub-50 dollar bourbons out there.
I own several Penelope expressions. Had the barrel strength last night. The only saving grace was the finish. I enjoy most of the other expressions, but not this one.
I was on the Nulu Hype train when I bought a toasted barrel for $69.....(mainly because the EC Toasted Barrels I could only find for $99). Then I saw that the Nulu toasted finishing lasted 1-4 weeks.....weeks....not months. Almost a drive by toasting.....no time in the barrel. The next bottle of Nulu toasted i saw was $100+. It was a huge turnoff to the brand, and frankly I dont think I've watched more than a few reviews of their products. Their prices are a turnoff for me.....Not an "A" level NDP as far as I am concerned, not worthy of the prices they are asking. Hell, I can find KC12 for $70....wtf Given the state of the market, I can't see why any DSP, NDP, blender, etc would even chance raising prices, its absolutely the wrong time and place for it. Cheers on the other "no mas" bottles, I appreciate you saying "enough is enough". I walked by a Four Gate sitting on the shelf for months and months only because it was $200 and I couldn't bring myself to part with that kind of monay! Cheers!!
Hello! I am in no way defending Nulu, but I have recently been enlightened with the information that there are other brands besides Nulu that will only age their whiskies in a second barrel for a few weeks. Some even less. Apparently sometimes that’s all that’s needed. Over oaking apparently is easy to do with a second barrel. That is all! Cheers!
4 year Willet rye is not $90. I can get them all day for $50-60. I quite like it but I like rye. Tasted both the Michter's toasted rye and bourbon along with 8 other Michter's at Christmas and no one had anything bad to say about them. Not a Penelope or Nulu lover and never had Four Gate.
Justr tried the 1897, 1910, 1920 from OF. They were awful! The 1897 was just OK. Is OF getting that much worse, since a lot of people used to rave about them?
@connieharris6553 I'm wondering if I just bought a bad set? 1910 was the worst followed by 1920 and then 1897. They were very ethanol forward, they seemed very young and the 1910 had a nail polish remover element to it.
Again your palate but I don’t buy anything over 100 so a couple of these I’d never get. Personally I’m a fan of Penelope but like I said it’s a palate thing.🥃🥃🥃
First time seeing the channel, long time whiskey drinker. So I think at least 3 of the 5 bottles are NDP sourced whiskeys. Most of these are trading off their reputations and likely won’t be around in a few years. There’s only so many ways you can spin 4-6 year mgp juice. For Four Gate, the whiskey tubers will need to be impressed with these because at the $200+ price point, most buyers would be very hesitant to pull the trigger given it sounds like the quality is starting to lack. Same boat that Bookers bourbon is in. Great video!!
I always come here to check my SANITY ! . . . good episode . . . beware of channels that can not say bad things or condoning that childish "chasing-hunting" thing . . . Cheers !
I'm rolling my eyes with Barrel, Penelope and Bardstown. How many damn bourbons y'all gonna push out?? Perfect a small amount first. I think the next thing will be roasted cherry Barrel, aged at 2 years and 1 month , then sunk below sea level where mermaids lightly move diamond staves to a sea salt finish. Gimme a break
What a great episode and thank you both. As a rye lover I thought I was the only one that didn't like willet 4 year a rye. I actually poured the 3/4 of a bottle I had left out
Have a good one
Actually at my local Total Wine Nulu got a big dose of humble pie. They had prominent shelf placing and were selling for $90-$100 each for the special finishes, etc. Nobody was buying at all. They dropped them to $77 and they’re still sitting there.
Great video guys! There's so much low level crap selling at ridiculous prices. Just give me a bottle of OGD114 for 29 bucks and I'm a happy camper. Cheers!
How much of the decline in bourbon has to do with using barrels before the wood has aged long enough?
You need to try the Penelope Estate Collection Private Select 9 year if you haven’t already. It’ll change your mind on Penelope for sure.
I'm hearing a lot of love for the Penelope Estate bottles.
I tried it last week at the Whisky Global event in Vancouver. It's fantastic!
It’s good but Penelope as a whole is hit or miss imo.
I'll throw in the Penelope Tokaji and the their 15 year light whiskey
What I am running into is, when I finish a good bottle and buy a new one of the same thing it just does not taste as good? I am not talking barrel type bottles but regular $50 type shelf stuff?
I've run into that when a craft distiller goes from their (usually MGP) sourced juice to the juice they have been making. Same bottle. Very different profile and usually the MGP was better.
@@gregsmith5132 I second that opinion!!
Wow. Thank you for this video. I watch your channel because your palate usually aligns with mine. These are all bottles I have wanted to purchase. I think I will try them at a bar before purchasing a bottle
Willet 4 year makes amazing… AMAZING old fashioneds. It’s so magical. It’s 75% rye in the mash bill and I learned the really good ones are over 110 proof. So if you see 114 or above always a banger.
Also, it’s the only rye I like which turns really sweet when you add water.
I never drink this one neat. Just dump a bunch of ice in a coffee mug and let it turn sweet and dilly. I do love the dill note and get super disappointed when it’s not there or not as prevalent.
But yes, overall their quality has gone done in the last 4-5 years.
I stopped buying 1920 new label, on my 3rd willet bottle in 4 years and probably won’t buy another for a while. I stopped buying regular WT 101, (the 70th anniversary was amazing) I stopped buying whistle pig anything, I stopped buying ECBPs, I stopped buying buffalo trace, I stopped buying eh Taylor small batch, I stopped buying anything MGP sourced. I’m done.
For that money I just get a nice bottle of peated scotch instead.
I am an OF 1910 fan and sip it every day. Lately, the last few bottles I bought seem to be off. Just wondered what everyone else thought.
I got the OF 86, won't buy it again.
Yea the whole whiskey row line got worse after the label change. I don’t buy any of them anymore. It’s not the same as it used to be. Super disappointing.
@@chuckandrews5339 Same here ! It was just a 'hot' mess when I tried it, it has definitely put me off buying anymore OF bottles.
My 1920 has stayed fairly consistent.
I just picked up 1910 and it has zero banna , cherry or any of the notes that people say. It's a smooth sipper for sure but I'd probably think 40 or 45 is a fair price
Agree with all except Michter’s toasted. I love Michter’s toasted and it only comes out every 3 years.
Great video; I don’t mind the grassy notes in the Willett 4yr rye; it’s only $60 in my area.
What's funny is it always comes down to what you like...I enjoy all five of those, but as you point out price can be a bit much unless you love it.
It's videos like these that I'm thankful for when finding who to continue watching or discovering who to avoid watching. David has the opposite palate for whiskey than what I enjoy, as Penelope 4 grain barrel strength and Nulu double oak are among my favorites. Perhaps he has some "bad" bottles, or perhaps I am lucky and find "good" bottles, but I enjoy the delicious sweet oak, subtle leather, and caramel notes from Nulu double oak. I agree about the pricing though. Penelope 4 grain barrel strength is surprisingly delicate for the proof and a super easy sipper. In a previous video David (to my amazement) likes Heaven Hill grain to glass rye which is unimpressive at best even if it were half the price, while about a month ago, didn't like my favorite double oak bourbon (Peerless). Iguess I will agree to disagree. I've seen about 30 or so videos and I'm seeing he is starting to drift away from whiskey videos and doing odd EDC and "how to be a real man type of bravado, insecurity lure type videos. It is what it is I guess.
Good luck to you in the future David.
@6:45 you had me laughing... or about 30 seconds later... soy sauce, chicken and whip cream are all great though. ;)
I like the Penelope Barrel Strength. Got mine for $55. Not sure where you are shopping but, I would find another store.
I think a good general rule is finding a pallet and recommendation that matches your own to be able to explore new labels. I have a nulu btl and it is a single barrel pick from the boys over at Bourbon Pursuit. This is a bottle we can get behind and enjoy, also it’s a toasted barrel to keep in mind, which often from certain brand releases can create lots of variance. Some may like them some may not; just because you liked one batch doesn’t mean you like another
I am not a Penelope fan and I agree 100% with you both on this!
If you only like the Penelope Rosè finish, then i think the brand isn't the issue as much as it is your whiskey preferences.
The willet can be amazing or awful I've had two bottles and experienced both. The amazing one I had I'd kill to get another of the other went mostly down the sink. Haven't had that fourgate but the Kelvin VI is amazing I bought a backup of it I liked it so much.
The Nulu Toasted Small Batch is delicious. For $85 I think the value is there. I like it as much or better than my Old Forester SBBS picks at the same price. However, the ECBP Toasted picks outshine the Nulu Toasted, but those come in at $100 in my area.
The last Nulu I bought (probably ever) was a double oaked rye at a Grocery Outlet for $30. It was good for $30, NOT $80-100.
I heard so much good stuff about the michters toasted. I got the 2023 sour mash, super flat, muted, and thin. Then i got the 2024 toasted barrel proof rye, again, super muted, thin, and flat. I paid 100 for the toasted sour mash. 125 or 130 for the toasted barrel proof rye. Not impressed, at all!! Ive had maybe 2 pours from each bottle that had some decent flavors. Like the marshmellow note. But most of the time i go into it, its so muted and lacking complexity.
I have a nulu wheated toasted pick that is absolutely phenomenal!!
The willet 4 year rye varies a TON batch to batch. The bottle i had was absolutely amazing and crushed 200 dollar allocated bottles in blinds. But ive seen others that were very underwhelming. The only thing i can guess is thw proof. If you can get the batches that are over 110 (my batch was 114), they are better
Learning a ton from you guys...thanks for your honest opinions!
Liquor store near me had $99 cask strength Nulu on sale for $22. For that price I will take it.
Yeah I think in general the Nulu lineup is meh but for that price and bottle it's a good pickup
@teslamodelyguy8343 Yeah they were overstocked
That willet description makes me want to try it. I do have one but it’s four or five years old so it may not be the same. Have a few four gate that are good but they’ve never been worth the price. Not a fan of Penelope in general love michters so I’m quite surprised and you guys at one time had me curious to try a nulu but I never did so I guess I missed my chance.
I feel the same about Penelope as a whole. I didn’t like the Rose but their 15 year American light is good and I liked the 9 year estate series that came out recently.
I always support "negative" whiskey content if it means spotlighting brands of subpar quality and absurd prices.
Bad business deserves to be called out.
Absolutely love these kind of videos! I might even prefer these over "stuff I like" videos!! Cheers ya'll
i'm surprised with the willet rye, i have 2. and yes, they are single barrels, but my first one is ever so slight oak, vanilla, and a hint of spice, idk if i just got an older one, or if it's the barrel or what, but the one i have is fantastic and one of my personal favorite rye whiskeys i own. i also got it for 60 bucks, which, with the notes you have, not worth 60 lol. i hope my backup is just as good as my first one. time will tell.
the nulu, i have a double oaked, paid 100 for it i think, and it's fantastic. it's a caramel bomb, though, to be fair, it is a store pick so it could very well be that i got a good bottle, and others arent worth it. assuming i got the exact same juice, i'd rebuy my nulu DO no doubt.
the other 3, i havent ever tried, so i'll be sure to try before i buy any of them.
Agreed. I won’t buy at 80 90, but saw one for 65-70 and grabbed it.
Hell, I think it was $59 and Total wine was trying to move them.
Sagamore is so much better.
I like Nulu. I have a double oak pick from a local place as well as a local pick for the toasted. I bought both for 60-70 and didn’t feel ripped off. I would recommend it at that price. Definitely not worth more and I constantly see them on “sale” at TW for those prices discounted from 100-110.
The Michters toasted bourbon I liked, was kind of dissapointed because for 120 I thought it would be better, the nose is better than the palette.
I agree with the willet rye when you clearly can buy a barrel proof JD that’s much better in quality.
I haven’t had some of these but the willet is on point. I was able to find a bottle for the first time and I took 1 sip and just said no and was angry I spent the money on the bottle. After that it was poured down the drain. Never buying another one.
No offense but pouring down the drain ? I hope that's just an image. There's a lot of better uses for bad whisky !
Regarding Nulu: own a few single barrels that are good. I tasted their core lineup when visiting the distillery. Only walked away with a single barrel and their take on aged agave.
Mrs Sniffles 😔😂😂😂🤧
Hope you feel better Jaime.
I love the Penelope Toasted.
I have a Nulu double toasted that’s not bad and I paid 85-90 for it. To me it’s a bit overpriced for the juice and not a rebuy for me at that price.
Thanks! I don't owe any of those brands except a Michter's SmB ($45) and three Penelopes (all under $50) including the CS, none of which I've cracked yet. I will continue to avoid the others brands and not add any more Penelope until I try those that I already own. I'll do own a Shenks and a Bombergers too.
I was with you until the Michters toasted rye - that bottle is incredible IMO but I do wish it was cheaper
I have a Penelope BS from 4-5 years ago and its pretty good but not amazing. I still have half the bottle but its not one I've been nursing. That would be my Wilderness Trail Single Barrel.
100 Percent on point with the Penelope. The bottles and myself are like reverse poles on a magnet. The closer my hand gets -
the more my brain pushes my hand away. Don't see the hype especially for the more $$$ bottles.
Appreciate the video. The only one I’d disagree with is Nulu.
I find it a little odd to criticize a brand for quality going downhill while presenting batch 4 (!) from Four Gate. What are they on now, like 30 batches plus special releases. Also that bottle was released in 2019, how long has it been open?
That’s kinda the point. Not buying these brands at the price because they’ve been consistently disappointed with them.
@ but David is literally dogging the old stuff while drinking that exact old stuff saying it’s not as good as the old stuff. I’m pretty sure the batch 4 he’s drinking came out the very first year Four Gate bottled. I’d track with you if he had a recent batch in his glen. I don’t necessarily disagree with the sentiment - though last year’s Kelvin Sixty was a banger.
the toasted bourbon and sour mash sucks but that toasted rye is killer
Thank you algorithm: random people abandoning bottles I never heard of nor would have ever tasted
You shouldn’t comment on videos you don’t like. The algorithm will keep suggesting the ones you show “interest” in. It also helps the video grow. Appreciate your opinion but just thought you should know.
Man I am shocked. I loved the Michters Toasted Rye. Lol
I couldn’t agree more on the Willet 4yr rye! It’s not good! Gave my bottle away! I have a Michters Toasted bourbon that has a nice nose, starts okay on the palate and it’s terrible on the finish/aftertaste. All the Nulu I’ve tried they are all terrible. The others I’ve never had. Cheers!
Good stuff! Agree with all these brands.
Of these I’ve only had the Penelope. It wasn’t bad, but probably not worth $70, it definitely didn’t get me excited to hunt for their estate stuff.
The Penelope bottle is the only one I have. I see Nulu everywhere but at the $90 mark it has always been an easy pass for me
Guess I 'm safe sticking with WT 101 and Bulleit. Thanks
I like the Willet rye profile a lot, BUT the last bottle I bought tasted like it had quality issues. Soooo yeah. Never buying that again unless I can try it first.
I picked up a Nulu Toasted on sale. it was not to my taste, I tried it on 3 different times then dumped it.
I’ll take all the MTBSR you have
Didn't have the same notes when I tried will let rye.
Hate me, but I thought the last one was gonna be a Stagg. I have the same tasting notes on several of the recents I've tried: 23B, 24B, 24C. Bitter bitter endings.
I got only one NULU, the Reserve straight bourbon, $70, 2 1/2 years ago. Still have 1/2 the bottle, it's fine, should be $50.
Remember price has nothing to do with the taste.
Oh holy Bourbon Lord.. Please let STILL AUSTIN CASK STRENGTH BOURBON stay the same price.. Amen
I passed an 18 years old Elijah Graig at my local abc. What do you think
Yikes ... I ran across a Michter's Toasted bourbon around Thanksgiving and paid $120 for it. I haven't opened it yet, I guess I'll find out 🙂
I'm just an average novice of bourbons, but I know what I like. Also, I can't bring myself to dishing out more than say, a hundred dollars for any one bottle. My pallet, is not that sophisticated. There are plenty of 10 to 15 year old bourbons at my price point, that are just fine.
I've been whiskey drinking for about 6 years now and I can say I'm coming back around to regular bottles I can get when I want and really the higher aged stuff isn't always what I prefer. For example I like the Knob Creek 9 ($30), 12 ($65) and 18 ($180) and they are all readily available to me. I like12 but not sure it is worth the premium over the 9 and 18 is my least favorite.
@@gregsmith5132 I tried the Woodford Reserve 30 bucks, for the first time, and it was killer good. And I can get Buffalo Trace 33, Eagle Rare for 45. Lots of great sub-50 dollar bourbons out there.
I’ve had 1 out the 5, Michners. Wouldn’t buy again. The others pass. LOL
The youth on Penelope Barrel Strength is very obvious but got it for 45 at Sam's but it ain't great
I own several Penelope expressions. Had the barrel strength last night. The only saving grace was the finish. I enjoy most of the other expressions, but not this one.
I was on the Nulu Hype train when I bought a toasted barrel for $69.....(mainly because the EC Toasted Barrels I could only find for $99). Then I saw that the Nulu toasted finishing lasted 1-4 weeks.....weeks....not months. Almost a drive by toasting.....no time in the barrel. The next bottle of Nulu toasted i saw was $100+. It was a huge turnoff to the brand, and frankly I dont think I've watched more than a few reviews of their products. Their prices are a turnoff for me.....Not an "A" level NDP as far as I am concerned, not worthy of the prices they are asking. Hell, I can find KC12 for $70....wtf
Given the state of the market, I can't see why any DSP, NDP, blender, etc would even chance raising prices, its absolutely the wrong time and place for it. Cheers on the other "no mas" bottles, I appreciate you saying "enough is enough". I walked by a Four Gate sitting on the shelf for months and months only because it was $200 and I couldn't bring myself to part with that kind of monay! Cheers!!
Hello! I am in no way defending Nulu, but I have recently been enlightened with the information that there are other brands besides Nulu that will only age their whiskies in a second barrel for a few weeks. Some even less. Apparently sometimes that’s all that’s needed. Over oaking apparently is easy to do with a second barrel. That is all! Cheers!
4 year Willet rye is not $90. I can get them all day for $50-60. I quite like it but I like rye. Tasted both the Michter's toasted rye and bourbon along with 8 other Michter's at Christmas and no one had anything bad to say about them. Not a Penelope or Nulu lover and never had Four Gate.
I like the 4yr Willett better than the 13th Colonies and Cedar Ridge Rye so might have just saved you some money.
Too bad about NULU. They have some good whiskeys but they are $$$$. Great video.
Justr tried the 1897, 1910, 1920 from OF. They were awful! The 1897 was just OK. Is OF getting that much worse, since a lot of people used to rave about them?
1920 definitely got worse.
@connieharris6553 I'm wondering if I just bought a bad set? 1910 was the worst followed by 1920 and then 1897. They were very ethanol forward, they seemed very young and the 1910 had a nail polish remover element to it.
1910 is still solid. 1920 changed. Isn’t as good, but certainly not terrible. But again, all of this is subjective. Everyone is different
@@RVWhiskey 1910 is now better but for the money, I like the 100 proof OF bourbon and rye…can’t beat $25
Can’t do any toasted, too much of a hit or miss factor
Again your palate but I don’t buy anything over 100 so a couple of these I’d never get. Personally I’m a fan of Penelope but like I said it’s a palate thing.🥃🥃🥃
Why and when did you change your name from whiskey row to just "the row"?
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Thanks for proving again that price does not always mean good whiskey. There are plenty of good bottles for $50-$60 or less.
Are these all NDP products except willet may be ???
I still enjoy the Michters toasted Rye. But I wouldn't pay what is costs. NULU is so over priced.
I am not enjoying my Penelope toasted. Just doesn’t taste that great
Willett Rye is amazing. Michters is over priced. Penelope's line up is not outstanding, but at a lower price it would be fine.
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100 percent agree on all these bottles!
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