The Railway Review To The Networkers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2021
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Welcome my friends to another iteration of the Railway Review series. Today we look at a bunch of trains I actually like. OR DO I????
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2:25 I loved how those 2 class 365s were racing each other
AND ITS LIGHTS OUT AND AWAY WE GO MAX VERSTAPPEN OVER TAKES LEWIS HAMILTON 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@itsdanguo0519 what
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I was visited by the 365's on their holiday to scotland, They didn't stop smiling their whole trip. I think they were pleased :D
Indeed
Lmao
A miss them w scotrail
I don't take requests, so please save your commenting energy with asking. Anyway, I'm immensely grateful for my friend, JVids24 for filming the 365 interior footage as well as some extra shots that were used here. Really saved my bacon with this one so thanks buddy!
Oh yeah, um, a ceramic bust of your waifu of choice will be shipped to whomever works out all the filming locations for the exterior shots!
Collecting the footage was really nice as this was my last ride on a 365 before going back to uni, so yeah not a problem at all! If by chance if any of you saw someone filming inside the toilets that was me lol
Some nice hard ones in this!
0:14 London Kings Cross
0:16 Hayes
0:18 Sundridge Park
0:25 Arlesey
0:38 Kidbrooke
0:58 Cambridge
1:09 Burham
1:18 Oxford
1:37 Blackheath
1:46 London Kings Cross
1:59 Biggleswade
2:23 Welham Green
2:41 Lewisham
2:52 Waterloo East
3:02 Strood
3:14 Denmark Hill
3:30 Welwyn North
3:41 Hadley Wood
3:52 Cambridge
4:10 Penge East (was hard, might be wrong)
4:36 Biggleswade
4:47 Clapham High Street
5:05 Welwyn Garden City
6:51 Knockholt
7:16 Wimbledon Chase
7:55 Swale
8:16 Knockholt
8:30 Doncaster
8:38 West Wickham
8:56 Welwyn North
9:29 Stone Crossing
9:42 St Johns
9:50 Farningham Road (very hard this one, got it from screenshotting the reflection of the signal number and flipping it)
9:57 Arlesey
10:03 Northfleet
10:12 Huntingdon
10:18 West Dulwich
10:29 Kemsley
10:43 London Bridge
I don't have any favorite waifu, but I am a fan of the animated webseries Meta Runner, so a ceramic bust of the character Tari would be nice, thanks lol
Guess the station it begins with a L the operators begin with A and L
@@317Dan how did you figure them all out, your smart, I live in Portslade so I wouldn’t know
@@317Dan the kidbrooke one was very easy for me, so was blackheath
Really enjoyed the ten 365 units Scotrail acquired for their "holiday", 2018 was excellent riding around on em between Glasgow Qst - Edinburgh, Stirling, and Dunblane. Interestingly I learned that during a placement at the time that their timings were so similar to the turbostars they just used 365s on their paths rather than generate entirely new ones. You could also use 1st Class on the latter two routes mentioned above as they were blessed with "declassification".
I did see them on the scotrail Glasgow Queen Street to Edinburgh and alloa
This has to be one my favourite series on TH-cam. Not often do I find actual straight up reviews on train types, so these are real treats. Keep em coming, I have a few I have my fingers crossed for, wont say which though...
Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying these :)
The networkers are one of the best trains
RIP class 365, you will be missed.
At around 9:21, when you were talking about keeping trains locked away in storage and you briefly threw an image of the 442 on the screen; I couldn’t help but laugh. Regardless, another great video!
Glad you enjoyed. Subliminal messages are fun :)
It's a shame for the 365s though, getting taken off
rip 365s 1994-2021 they were all scrapped
@@whatdoyoumeanbro4964 yup. Sad indeed
They were new trains tbf
Ah yes... 365s. Another class of train being replaced by something so much worse. The worst bit is, bar the 379s, there will just be ironboard seating on GN by the end of this year
@@lamborghinihexagons5502 yes, literally what my comment says.
When the 379s and 387/3s finally reach GN, the 379s will be the only units they run that dont have ironboard seating
@@LucyMichela Umm... I would say that the 387 is worse than a good 365. But not when the 365s had broken seats which plagues Networkers a lot!
Great video! I would love to see all of the trains that you've reviewed put onto a timeline from worst to best.
I think I'd need to review a fair bit more before being able to make a video like that. At least so I'd have a selection that I'm more comfortable comparing.
Does anyone have any good resources for the specific services that the 465 runs on? I tried looking at the Carriage Working Notices but I gave up since they're so hard to read.
I've never been sure what my opinion on these trains are, I'd probably say I like them, but I'm not sure, I guess I'm just neutral on these
Absolutely love the good old networkers
Agreed
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So in terms of capacity we prefer double decker buses but longer trains
The rest of the world prefers double decker trains and longer buses
First Capital Connect 317s, 319, 321 and 365s are my childhood trains.
same, taking them between cambridge and royston in 2011-2014
I recognised you filmed at Welwyn north and Hadley wood for some of the 365 clips
2:07 why
do the class 365 still run because I've not seen them running on the ecml for a while
me after watching later in the video: oh. ooh no
FINALLY A RAILWAY REVIEW
Best sounding trains in Britain
Yeah fair enough lol. I agree there. Loving the railway review series as well, they're well made, funny, and I just enjoy them a lot :D
Thank you for your kind words. I don't think the networkers are the best sounding train in Britain. One more train sounds much better to me...
@@MaverickHunterDanielThe Class 323's?
@@MaverickHunterDanielobviously the 373, who couldn’t love that
Storage means someone else can grab them later to replace delayed units or for extra capacity. Scrapyard means goodbye forever.
Exactly my point made, yeah.
0:50 omg the 96 bus route that runs nonstop from dartford to Bluewater shopping centre
Not to be confused with the 96 that runs from Barnsley to Wakefield, for my northern viewers here.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel thanks Daniel for clearing that up
very informative review, although i'd like to fact check this please: all other sources i have looked at state that none of the networkers have air con or that they have air cooling through the vents instead which is apparently not the same thing. is this the case?
I um...don't know honestly. Kent Rail says Air Conditioning, Wikipedia says Driver's air conditioning on the 365 and Railforums says air cooling. Air cooling seems to be the *most likely* answer but it's frankly hard to confirm for sure. Sorry!
Ah yes, one of the best trains I've ever seen in my entire life !!!!!!!! (personal opinion lol)
I am felling like South eastern have been rushed the refurbished seats, can't they take there time?
Locomotive manufacturer: How many Networkers do you want?
British rail: Yes.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
There may have been more, but apparently the economy was shiyt at the time. So they cancelled alot of the networker projects.
@@bb-3653 Were they trying to create a grey goo scenario? Just burying the world in networkers......
@@mattevans4377 nah I think they werent finished making them. That's what I've heard anyway. There were designs and rendering for other trains. (Tbh they didnt look as good as the 465s anyway ) but who knows maybe theyd have changed the final appearance.
Ive travelled Class 465 from London Charing Cross to Kent and drop off at Longfield in 2000s. Very simliar internal of Class 321 when 321s were entering services in late 1990s at Liverpool Street. This 465 was quiet and smooth than Class 315s (Liverpool Street) in late 1990s & 317s (LTS / C2C only, not WAGN). Also I catch Class 165 from Paddington to Windsor via changing trains at Southall. That Class 165 using own engine, like the buses.
I literally clicked so fast when I saw the notification
I’m a local to these trains so this video will be a good one
0:38 and that’s my local station! wow!
I do my best to go around for footage variety.
I like This video( I watched it full) I always wanted to ride a networker when I would use southeastern, I will miss the 365
My prediction for the future for the 365 is that companies like South western railway, southern or southeastern will adopt those poor trains short before dumping them straight back to either the storage or scrap gods in favour of even more horrible cheap plastic aventras built by a joint venture between malware and windows xp
466s were replaced with 375/3s on swale
Wish you would do the rail review to the electrostars you did it to the turbostars
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Will you do the Electrostar next? You seem to have many complaints about it, such as when you said, "It is debatable if the Thames Valley Express services have benefitted without them, considering what they have instead now." in the Class 165 and Class 166 review, and when you said, "Whilst I don't like these trains either......" in your Class 313 review.
Just as a warning, I block people who ask for requests because, as I said in my top comment, I don't take requests.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel Oh sorry.
It's fine, I'll let it side here.
And I got notified now?!?!?!?!
Nice Video! :)
Thank you.
9:30 "naughty step" get me laughing (I had that as a kid)
465/9 has first class whilst the other subclasses in the 465 (/0 /1 [/2]) have no first class, while the /2 and /9 have the amazing f1 car sounds. /2 was taken out of service for 707 on southeastern, the /2 was also a cross between the /1 or /0 and /9. had /9 motors and /1 /2 interior and due to that no first class.
My local trains. Can't get enough of those metcams 9n the seml also Sundridge Park is one of my locals. My local is grove park
My local is near the start of the video
And then they decided to scrap all the good networkers early instead of sending them to Northern because LOL!
Great vid but one inaccuracy - the 465s/466s, like the 365s, do *not* have air conditioning (other than the driver's cab). They have blown air but no A/C. The hopper windows are the give away.
Fair enough, I do get the two mixed up.
the 465/2 has been sent to the scrap gods.
Already? Awwwwwwwwwwwww
@@MaverickHunterDaniel The 707 is there succesor
Actually, the 465/2s are currently in storage in Worksop, Ely and one is sat in Doncaster
I thought that 465 was just an electrified 165 honestly
Or is a 165 just a diesel 465...
9:00 Why didn't they add CCTV and SDO during the 2013-16 refurb?
Ah, um...hmmm. Good question.
I’m confused your hands while reviewing the class 365 is white but when reviewing the 465 they were black?
I asked my friend to film the 365 interior as I was unable to at the time
@@MaverickHunterDaniel speaking of which are you planning on doing a 395 review
@@prime6134 I don't reveal which unit is next because my plans change. If you ask me which unit I'm doing next again, I'll block you. I'm getting fed up with answering the same question over and over :/
@@MaverickHunterDaniel sorry.
Great video! I always think they sound like a depressed 323
I think they sound normal, I think the 323s are Hyper 465s
@@thefatcontroller4094 their not at all related actually. The companies that made networkers didnt make the 323s ..(I dont think)
@@bb-3653 no they didnt
@@alfiehnotts yeah exactly, cant remember the company that made 323s
@@bb-3653 Hunslet
I love this video
Try watching it in full before you comment lol.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel ok
Wait so you telling me 465 are slower than the 166 and 165/1?
In terms of top speed, yes. 90mph isn't needed for the Slade Green loop, for example.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel interesting
Reminds me of ur 465 remix
Why they got rid of the 365 on the great northern I don’t know, if your not gonna use trains and your not gonna scrap them and just keep them in a shed surely the people up the north wouldn’t mind getting some better EMU sets up there
it's too late they were scrapped in late 2021, no other company wanted them which is a shame, southeastern could've gotten ahold of the 365s since they already have very similar and identical 465s
@@whatdoyoumeanbro4964 southeastern should’ve just replace the 465s entirely the 365s were much better trains and could were dual voltage could’ve don’t big journeys from Cambridge to Dover or something
The 365 he’s already gone
Another thing is that the 465s with hitatchi motors are known for setting on fire.
Though I am willing to believe you, that's something I have never heard about happening.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel theres actual video footage , apparently they overheat , hence why they removed the covers at the bottom. No surprise that they possibly catch fire
@@bb-3653 do you have a link for the video?
@@MatthewK421 th-cam.com/video/cztxlFIYL5w/w-d-xo.html will this do?
@@alfiehnotts oh yes I remember now cheers
Coming from the United States of Bad Trains, I can safely say that the MetCam 465/466 sounds have grown on me quite a bit, I just wish I was able to see one in person.
I think if you want good trains, go to Germany. Name a bad German train. I'll wait.
@@mattevans4377 I think anywhere that isnt the US, Canada, and Mexico has better trains
@Matt Evans I've overheard some German folk having a beef about the Stadler Kiss 2 used for Intercity services but as for why I dunno.
The met cams are definately the best ones!! Although it's a shame they didnt upgrade them to at least 90mph on the longer journeys.
8:31 That's A Northern Rail Class 144
Yes it is.
They are better than a certain Electrostar, yes, I'm looking at you class 376
Yes the Class 376s really need a refurbishment at this point.
They are still in the connex livery fgs
They ride better than any electrostars
2:22-2:40 yo dawg, we heard you like 365. so you can see a 365 while seeing a 365! ;)
YOU FORGOT KENT WE HAVE 465 IN KENT
do the class 66 the intro will be a powerpuff girl ep
The 325s are also networkers
No they aren't. Underneath, it's a 319 with a networker cab.
What the heck is a class 325
letmegooglethat.com/?q=class+325
Oh yeah why am I so dumb
where is the broken seat counter 😭
What are you on about?
nevermind @@MaverickHunterDaniel
Anyway Just Yes
The 466s haven’t got accessible areas because there is no point because of how small the unit is so therefore having no point to put the areas in due to the little seats anyways
1. There are 4 trains in the UK that are smaller than the 466. The 139, Pacers, 150 and the 153. All of these trains have a dedicated wheelchair area where there are folding seats to allow a wheelchair to ride in.
2. No point?! Equality Act 2010 says hello: www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/part/12/chapter/3
and 3. If you're talking about size of the unit overall, the body of the 466 pretty much is the same as the 465, which has said wheelchair area. A few tweaks here and there and I feel like there would've been plenty of space to add one.
Well now some of the 466s are being stored along with some 465/2s, and the bromley north line is 465s and the medway Valley line and sheerness line is 375/3s
correction: they are trying to do illegal action
0:40 Harry Potter and platform 9 ¾ would have probably been a better image imo
Already made a Harry Potter joke in the IET video. Gotta try and vary it up a bit :)
i think the trains terminate at baldock instead of royston to save on time, rolling stock and drivers. or just great northern are lazy idk
That makes sense honestly.
I can say 1 word on why I hate the class 465 0 and 1
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What a way to start of the video. You really did ruin it lol.
Even though the pony craze has long since died out?
YOU FORGOT THE 165 AND 166
No I didn't. I already reviewed them.
i thought the 165 and 166 were in this
I've already reviewed them, so there's no point including them here too.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel i didn't know, wait this vid was out for 3 yaers and your replying awesome! great videos to keep it up!!
@@GeneralTrainGuy Thanks and you're welcome.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel no worries!
No 165s and 166s in this video? I'm very disappointed, how dare you not include those diesel Networkers!
Jk 😂😂😂. The electric Networkers are amazing (especially the 365) and one of my fav British trains alongside the Hitachi AT300 and the Electrostar. 465 Hitachis are also good, and I can even remember, when I was a child (about 6 or 7 years old) going on some with Brush GTO motors! (All now replaced with Hitachi IGBT VVVF as you know).
Shame Great Northern withdrew their 365s. The 387s (the train that replaced the 365s) could have instead been used to replace Southern's 313s and 455s. The 365s are rather young and replacement was not necessary.
The class 313 and 455 are both nice trains (haven't been on a Southern 313 yet but I remember going on some Silverlink ones and I quite liked their sound) but starting to get a bit old imo, and in need of a replacement. The 387 could have been the perfect replacement.
Oops, I completely forgot about 1:13 and that you did a dedicated video to the diesel Networkers (165/166) 😂😂😂😂
Sorry aboot that, eh?
Heh, it's fine. :)
@@MaverickHunterDaniel Totally not done in the Canadian way
even tho I'm not Canadian btw
You're just wrong. 365s accelerate MUCH quicker than 465s. 50-52 seconds to 60 for a 365 and 58-60 for a 465/9, and 70 for a 465 BREL. Looks like you didn't look at the figures...
This is one of those situations where I can't wholly blame you for saying that that due to conflicting sources. RailforumsUK and Wikipedia say the 365's max. accelaration rate is 0.65m/s^2 whilst Eversholt rail's page which I only accessed via the Wayback Machine says it's 0.81m/s^2. Comparing the graphs there too give results closer to the 55-60 seconds to 60 than 50 seconds too.
I'll accept the BREL ones being a bit weaker in terms of accelaration too, though not seeing a 365 accelarate anywhere near as quickly as it's maximum didn't help either. Again, no blame but when presented with conflicting specs like this, an average between the two seems to make the most amount of sense.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel th-cam.com/video/i6Ta4seRYu8/w-d-xo.html - it gets well under 40 seconds to 50mph here. This is the fastest a 365 can accelerate.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel I have looked at the railway performance society archives and spoken to people - upon applying full power from Stevenage, a 365 can just about exceed 70mph by Langley junction, getting there in around 70 seconds.
A 465/9 (the fastest 465s) take well over 70 seconds to get to 70mph. It's all thanks to the 365 being under AC power.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel If you're wondering how the 365s compare to modern units, they hold up well.
The fastest Stevenage- Knebworth passing time for the 365 is 2:18 (full power from Stevenage allows it to pass Knebworth in around 2:20). They are very near 100 by this point (someone's took GPS measurements and found that they can get up to 91-93 AND stop at Knebworth). A 700 is practically the same though it saves 5 seconds passing Langley Junction - a 700 is a bit quicker from 0-30 but that's about it. The Eversholt graph is too pessimistic. In reality 365s were much faster than it said.
@@MaverickHunterDaniel Finally, I'll say that a 465/9 takes around 100-110 seconds to get to its top speed of 75 mph on a flat track. In 100-110 seconds a 365 can well exceed 85mph and even hit 90mph on a flat track. I've been talking to people who used GPS on them and looked at the archives - trust me.
What about 165 and 166 they are also jetworkers
Already reviewed. Check the playlist.
Jetworker. Class 165 coming to your local shinkansen line soon!
the 46X look like they are begging for a gf on the front and the 365 had an ugly black part ob the front thst should reslly be yellow
Hmmm.so u don't take request of what to review next. I'm going to guess it
I guess a train in the desiro family
Guess all you like because even if you're correct, I wouldn't say so.
rest in piece brush motor 465s, you will be missed, especially by me who grew up with them 🫡
465s are still around, I saw them in London Bridge
Ive travelled Class 465 from London Charing Cross to Kent and drop off at Longfield in 2000s. Very simliar internal of Class 321 when 321s were entering services in late 1990s at Liverpool Street. This 465 was quiet and smooth than Class 315s (Liverpool Street) in late 1990s & 317s (LTS / C2C only, not WAGN). Also I catch Class 165 from Paddington to Windsor via changing trains at Southall. That Class 165 using own engine, like the buses.