Thank you for this! On my suburban line I prefer the 465 to the 376 because they're just more comfortable. The new City Beam 707 is okay, very smooth and easy to board, but the seats are much less comfortable and with less leg-room, and the ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE SO LOUD AND SO FREQUENT AND THEY GO ON AND ON AND ON AND ON and are actually broken. Too often I hear things like 'The next st.... The next station is St Johns. The next station is St Johns.'.
465s are the best trains in the world. They align with the platforms so well - there's no big gap or big step up. They're smooth with great suspension, and the seating is much more comfortable than the City Beams. The models which still have the thyristors sound really cool. I don't want them to be replaced!
Nice video here. Explains in detail the differences between the subclasses. Thank you for not making the mistake of calling the Hitachi IGBT a "new Hitachi motor" as most people making these kind of videos do. I look forward to future videos
Sad the /2s are gone, they were my favourite, also the /9s are just the refurbished /2s. At least the 466s still have Alstom motors as otherwise there would be none on the standard commuter lines
Look carefully at the driver door for the /2 & /9 and compare it the /0 & /1. Just in front of the driver’s side window, there is a line. The /0 and /1 is more thicker and more black in colour while the /2 and /9 has a more thinner one. That’s the easiest way for me.
i remember getting on a 465 pair to charing x and it was an 8 coach. one was a 465/1 or a /0 (idk) and the other was a /9. ik it was a /9 because of the first class . it was fun listening it depart london bridge as u had the normal hitachi noises and then halfway through it changed to the f1 car motors, which was funny
Although the class 465/2s have gone, the class 465/9s and 466s have similar motors to the London Underground 1996 stock on the Jubilee Line and sound incredibly similar. Class 465/0s and 465/1s sound similar to class 700s and 717s on ac power.
I Love The Entire Fleet of Class 465s and 466s But If I Had To Chose One As My Favourite It Would Be The 465/9 Units Because They Feel Spacious And The First Class Section Is Good Too 👍
Interestingly, both the Alstom GTO and original BREL GTO VVVFs sound like two IGBT based trains in Portugal. Respectively the CP Class 2240 (Alstom) and the CP Class 3400 (Bombardier-Siemens)
The 465/9 is usually used on semi fast service, yet it is still as fast as all the others reaching a max of 75 MPH while other trains like the 377, 375 and 376 reach 1000MPH. However, 465 trains are designed to accelerate faster than all of those trains. Ans maybe do another video like this but it is the IEP 800 801 an 802
I only went on one once, that was during the summer when they entered service down there. I was at Faversham on a 465/9 service to Dover Priory and I saw a /2 heading to Ramsgate or somewhere I can't remember pulling into the station since it was obviously less common, I hopped on the downgraded 465 which had loose seating, rough patch up jobs and dodgy toilets. I now know why they got replaced by the 707, it was quite a shock tbh, I didn't know they were THAT bad... TLDR: I got on a shitty 465/2 instead of a /9 in the summer
@@SouthEastTrainspotter according to my mum (who used to drive them) the cab interiors are also slightly different, placement of the emergency brake button on the centre console being a main differance
Everyone will be angry at southeastern when the 465's are gone and btw the Class 465/2's are at Ely Papworth Sidings must go visit there before there taken to scrap.
Thank you for this! On my suburban line I prefer the 465 to the 376 because they're just more comfortable. The new City Beam 707 is okay, very smooth and easy to board, but the seats are much less comfortable and with less leg-room, and the ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE SO LOUD AND SO FREQUENT AND THEY GO ON AND ON AND ON AND ON and are actually broken. Too often I hear things like 'The next st.... The next station is St Johns. The next station is St Johns.'.
465s are the best trains in the world. They align with the platforms so well - there's no big gap or big step up. They're smooth with great suspension, and the seating is much more comfortable than the City Beams. The models which still have the thyristors sound really cool. I don't want them to be replaced!
Nice video here. Explains in detail the differences between the subclasses. Thank you for not making the mistake of calling the Hitachi IGBT a "new Hitachi motor" as most people making these kind of videos do. I look forward to future videos
Thanks!!
Sad the /2s are gone, they were my favourite, also the /9s are just the refurbished /2s. At least the 466s still have Alstom motors as otherwise there would be none on the standard commuter lines
And So Do 465/9's.
I Also Liked The /2's
Really well put together this, and for someone like me who didn't really know the subtle differences an enjoyable watch. Cheers!
Thanks
I like both of the class 465’s 0-1 and 9’s
It's funny how the GEC-Alstom inverter almost sound similar to the Japanese inverters.
Look carefully at the driver door for the /2 & /9 and compare it the /0 & /1. Just in front of the driver’s side window, there is a line. The /0 and /1 is more thicker and more black in colour while the /2 and /9 has a more thinner one. That’s the easiest way for me.
The easiest way for me to tell apart is look above the cab, /2 and /9 have a little vent where as the rest dont
The 465/9s are one of the best sounding trains of all time imo
i remember getting on a 465 pair to charing x and it was an 8 coach. one was a 465/1 or a /0 (idk) and the other was a /9. ik it was a /9 because of the first class . it was fun listening it depart london bridge as u had the normal hitachi noises and then halfway through it changed to the f1 car motors, which was funny
Although the class 465/2s have gone, the class 465/9s and 466s have similar motors to the London Underground 1996 stock on the Jubilee Line and sound incredibly similar. Class 465/0s and 465/1s sound similar to class 700s and 717s on ac power.
Minor correction, the BREL/ABB units as built were fitted with Brush traction converters.
I Love The Entire Fleet of Class 465s and 466s But If I Had To Chose One As My Favourite It Would Be The 465/9 Units Because They Feel Spacious And The First Class Section Is Good Too 👍
1:17 That takes me back!
Interestingly, both the Alstom GTO and original BREL GTO VVVFs sound like two IGBT based trains in Portugal. Respectively the CP Class 2240 (Alstom) and the CP Class 3400 (Bombardier-Siemens)
The 465/9 is usually used on semi fast service, yet it is still as fast as all the others reaching a max of 75 MPH while other trains like the 377, 375 and 376 reach 1000MPH. However, 465 trains are designed to accelerate faster than all of those trains. Ans maybe do another video like this but it is the IEP 800 801 an 802
Maybe
Last time I checked, the Class 376 couldn’t go 1000 mph.
@@thetrainkid3177 lol
@@thetrainkid3177 imagine, though.
@@thetrainkid3177 1000 mph lol
the BREL class 465s probably have a matchstick under them because they set on fire easily
The /3s sounds like brush class 465
The /9s don't have first class anymore so will they still be classified as /9s?
Cheers, very in-depth!
/9 has the same sound as its great northern brother aka the 365
Which are all dead now
The windows on the doors of the 465/0 & 465/1 are different to the 465/2 & 465/9
The windows are a big difference too.
The only ones I like 465014, 466033 and 465247
Sadly most MetCam ones are gone. The BREL/ABB ones sound similar to the 395.
Great vid👍
Nice video good comparison but isn't the first class in the /9s now declassified
I am sometimes scared to go on a class 465 as a few caught fire recently
Was the second-to-last clip Crofton Park Station? If it was, then that’s my local station!
No its Bellingham
The 2 and 9 sound sound like the Jubilee line
I agree the /9s rule
The windows are also different.
Shame all the 465/2s have gone
Yeah...
I only went on one once, that was during the summer when they entered service down there. I was at Faversham on a 465/9 service to Dover Priory and I saw a /2 heading to Ramsgate or somewhere I can't remember pulling into the station since it was obviously less common, I hopped on the downgraded 465 which had loose seating, rough patch up jobs and dodgy toilets.
I now know why they got replaced by the 707, it was quite a shock tbh, I didn't know they were THAT bad...
TLDR: I got on a shitty 465/2 instead of a /9 in the summer
Was it by any chance this service? th-cam.com/video/GW7Saynddqw/w-d-xo.html (sorry for shameless self plug)
@@class317 I think it was! After I arrived at Ramsgate, I got a service to St Pancras and tried to find a 315, I sadly couldn't :(
I Wish It Was The /1's That Went, Not The /2's.
The second one sounds like SCR 1:36
no it doesn't
I found an image of 465301
I still don't get the differences between /0 and /1s
The date built, and the company which made them
@@SouthEastTrainspotter according to my mum (who used to drive them) the cab interiors are also slightly different, placement of the emergency brake button on the centre console being a main differance
apart from the 465/9 i hate all the other ones. The interiors are garbage the blue paint and the rubbish flooring.
Yeah lol
bellingham
Yh what about it
1:00 sound like c751a (singapore)
1:07 sounds like c751b
Better these to horrible 707s.
465 superiority
@@SouthEastTrainspotter Ye
@@TheArkamedBat I Do Like 707's But I Like 465's More.
I have to say the 707s are great trains and are better in the Southeastern blue livery
Everyone will be angry at southeastern when the 465's are gone and btw the Class 465/2's are at Ely Papworth Sidings must go visit there before there taken to scrap.