The Modern Dogfight | F-16C Viper Vs Su-27 Flanker | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +23

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    • @rohangangan8327
      @rohangangan8327 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please make a Indian MiG 29 video!!!

    • @TheCobra114-o5e
      @TheCobra114-o5e ปีที่แล้ว

      F16 vs f86
      F104 vs mig 25 or 31

    • @supremegreaser2399
      @supremegreaser2399 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice vid, can we get this with reversed roles sometime soon?

    • @Corporal_Idiot
      @Corporal_Idiot ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been wanting to play DCS but I don't have the flight controls or head tracking equipment. Would it still be worth it?

    • @supremegreaser2399
      @supremegreaser2399 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Corporal_Idiot No

  • @ericlane3256
    @ericlane3256 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    Thought this video was gonna be deck transitions, being patient, outrating, and the F-16 getting the kill, but that first round had me on the edge of my seat. Well played to both pilots.

    • @bojned
      @bojned ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not in FOX-2 fight. Any kind of separation means certain death for any of these aircrafts.

    • @Asghaad
      @Asghaad ปีที่แล้ว +9

      which is exactly why i was repeatedly saying the F-16 fights became stale while ago - too predictable
      this ... this was VERY entertaining to watch specifically because the fight could go to either of them instead of "now he is on the deck with plane literally designed to be unbeatable in deck ratefight"

    • @traviswalker8933
      @traviswalker8933 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's probably true for a guns only fight, not a Fox-2 fight.

    • @fruitygranulizer540
      @fruitygranulizer540 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thats usually how gunfights go with the f-16. fox-2s change everything. otherwise modern jets like the f22 would have also been built to be 2 circle fighters

  • @idomeneogames583
    @idomeneogames583 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    holy cow, that first fight was pure art. i didn’t even think it was possible to win a slow speed fight against a flanker in a viper, great job man!

    • @GardenGuy1942
      @GardenGuy1942 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you should just play better. I would’ve won every round.

    • @GardenGuy1942
      @GardenGuy1942 ปีที่แล้ว

      You just are not good.

    • @GardenGuy1942
      @GardenGuy1942 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Go drink a Bud light.

    • @m.g7809
      @m.g7809 ปีที่แล้ว

      Felt like an intentional throw to me.

    • @xTiessieman506x
      @xTiessieman506x ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GardenGuy1942what are you, gay?

  • @Minstadave
    @Minstadave ปีที่แล้ว +131

    "Differential thrust this!" - smashed that thumbs up 👍

    • @wash_out
      @wash_out 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am dying 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Falkirion
    @Falkirion ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love watching you fly against Toxic, he can really give you a run for your money. He's got instincts for getting into the right position like you do. Always feel the fights can go either way

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan4566 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I was thinking, 🤔- in Round 1, had that been ME in the Viper...
    ...lost count of how many times I'd have been killed ! 😄
    Thanks, GS - great vid as always!

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Awesome battles! Props to the Flanker pilot for keeping it competitive.

  • @rotj4587
    @rotj4587 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    That 1st round was some Top Gun shit 🏆
    Well done to both GS and Toxic for putting on a great show!

  • @The_Original_Brad_Miller
    @The_Original_Brad_Miller ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I'm surprised you lived thru that 2nd round, considering he removed 5/5 flight control surfaces and turned you into a flaming rocket lol

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Me too, I think it was only cuz it hit the rear of the aircraft

    • @kuryakin2483
      @kuryakin2483 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bet Max Afterburner would love seeing that fight

  • @th3lunchb0x
    @th3lunchb0x ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Toxic did a pretty good job other than overshooting twice in the first fight. Had some impressive moves. Should have gunned you down a couple times in that one. He's got some skills but he shouldn't have ever lost to you once he forced you into the 1 circle. Still has a bit to learn. Great video.

  • @trafficguy8872
    @trafficguy8872 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Last fight….love the use of the classic….” Hold this for me real quick bud”…..as u make the 9x shot….😂😂😂

  • @NovaNeedsTherapy
    @NovaNeedsTherapy ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Always love coming home to a new GS video after i finish my work

    • @anantgautam2485
      @anantgautam2485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Finishing off the day with this video just before sleeping....he he we all love GS

  • @grizzly4736
    @grizzly4736 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, these were some fun fights to watch. I was as surprised as you that you were able to reverse and get that kill in the first fight. Holy crap that was good.

  • @tippership
    @tippership ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOL, "differential thrust THIS" - Nuts, beating his own techniques lol
    What's crazy is that first fight, he just goes to Idle,then CRUSHES a Flanker in the One Circle in a STOMP- I LOVE these vids where GS is in the enemy's den, and then still- beats them up at what they do best. So he's out-two circled the Viper in other planes like the tomcat and Fulcrum , has out-maneuvered and shanked the Raptor in the Flanker and Cobra/post-stall out-AOA'd it to a fast iR kill(longshot did this too) , he'- can't remember if he's fought the R_37 hypersonic missiles with phoenixes before... Just need him to outmanuever Felons now lol
    SO interesting, even in the enemy's specialty- it doesn't mean they're the only ones who can do it - when he says the other guy can still compete - they still can, amazingly ... .- you can do it too -even to the guy who's best at it - GS just proved that lol...
    (Unless it's that supermanueverability 120 degree AOA post-stall Cobra aerodynamics, then you can't quite match them- but you can still survive)

  • @heylookeveryoneitsjeff
    @heylookeveryoneitsjeff ปีที่แล้ว

    "Here, hold this for me real quick bud...." love it!

  • @DorianGreer
    @DorianGreer ปีที่แล้ว

    The pilot obviously makes all the difference in the world. These are so fun to watch. Thanks.

  • @GrielMerc4ever
    @GrielMerc4ever ปีที่แล้ว

    Commentary on that last kill was so disrespectful… I love it.

  • @bluecrisos
    @bluecrisos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:05 I really like the maneuver you do here, free engage in the WES and shoot the flanker with the gun. Good job sir!

  • @realitysux_0128
    @realitysux_0128 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Holy cow! Viper for the dub😳😳. Toxic was crushing it with the Flanker. Props to him

  • @yuvl32
    @yuvl32 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:32 “cross my nose!” - he almost literally crossed your nose here )

  • @Plymouth-Interlocking
    @Plymouth-Interlocking ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The F-16 is so small compared to the flanker! In that first fight he kept missing you but man easy to saw the wing off something thing the size of a building!

  • @real-NFSS
    @real-NFSS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve asked for this viper flanker hobs fight months ago. Glad to see it and glad to see my mighty viper beating the flanker😎

  • @adasaddas
    @adasaddas ปีที่แล้ว

    9:12
    "What do you mean there was traffic?"
    "You'll never guess what happened..."

  • @GriIIe
    @GriIIe ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, i dont know HOW you do it, but everytime, fr everytime i peak into your channel to watch you for some days and then be off again etc, you upload exactly what i want to watch fighting against each other

  • @nomar5spaulding
    @nomar5spaulding ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He was doing differential thrust in the 3rd round too at least. When you did the first gun burst that took off his nose, I thought it had taken out his left engine at first, but a second later he put burner back on to both engines. I've been having fun getting my arse blown up trying to learn to fly the F-16 recently. For laughs, I put on that BVR mission from a few days ago and I tried to see if I could survive long enough to merge and kill the MiG-29 with the AIM-9X. Let's just say that of the 3 times I tried that... I did not do well. I managed to get myself to the merge (sort of) then I realized I actually don't have the first clue how to actually manuever and basically ate the first shot the MiG fired from that point on XD. It was fun though. I think part of it is I really have no idea how to use the rudder, and I always pull too hard.

  • @edtlonsway
    @edtlonsway ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That first fight was sick...... well done....

  • @iampearce
    @iampearce ปีที่แล้ว

    dude that first fight was like a DCS talent show act holyy

  • @kineticdeath
    @kineticdeath ปีที่แล้ว

    that first round battle was one for the ages, definately highlight reel worthy

  • @BlackMasterRoshi
    @BlackMasterRoshi ปีที่แล้ว

    that first one had me at the edge of my seat. the resolution was excellent.

  • @murph3194
    @murph3194 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:28 Ohhh "Can't touch this"

  • @KraigZero
    @KraigZero ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really want Max Afterburner to analyze this one cause he flew the F16 and could give tips on how to use the aircraft pass its limits to defeat a Flanker in the one circle

  • @BobertLee156
    @BobertLee156 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    yes please do F-35 vs Su-57 and please fly in the F-35 this time GS🙏

    • @RazorsharpLT
      @RazorsharpLT ปีที่แล้ว +6

      BVR at least, because F-35 is gonna definitely lose in a dogfight
      It's not built for it.

  • @House_of_Schmidt
    @House_of_Schmidt ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The aim 9x seems to track way better than the r73.

    • @originalcolor
      @originalcolor ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Different generations.

    • @Derjeniche_
      @Derjeniche_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zyoungson215 The R-73 was basicly the OG back then

    • @zyoungson215
      @zyoungson215 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The aliexpress version of something is never as good as the real deal.

    • @viberserkeriv3124
      @viberserkeriv3124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spookysnek1603 frfr

    • @GooseOfYork
      @GooseOfYork ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The R-73 uses a traditional infrared seeker from what I understand. The AIM-9X uses an infrared imaging system. It's a lot easier to tell plane from flare if your seeker system can tell you more than the brightness of one 'pixel'!

  • @abirsanu
    @abirsanu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:41 - he was already using differential thrust in the previous round when he took the vertical on top of you

  • @vidmaniacz
    @vidmaniacz ปีที่แล้ว

    pucker factor on that first engage was at maximum for sure.

  • @KanJonathan
    @KanJonathan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not just knifes fight in a phone booth. It's knifes fight by MMA technique within an oversized sleeping bag.

  • @tonygibson1969
    @tonygibson1969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got a vr headset and getting good with the f18. In the discord and was on the growling sidewinder server for first time today and had a blast

  • @Fighter_Daily
    @Fighter_Daily ปีที่แล้ว +252

    Day 27 of asking for F-35 vs Su57 bvr

  • @NitroModelsAndComics
    @NitroModelsAndComics ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much like the Huey AH-1 the F16 was a masterpiece out of the box.

  • @seangall7637
    @seangall7637 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit! That first one was exciting! Can't believe you won that! Well played sir! Cheers!

  • @bukhariali71
    @bukhariali71 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1st round the Flanker should have done a Cobra to avoid overshoot. But easier said than done in heat of battle

    • @evo3s75
      @evo3s75 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea, I was thinking the same thing. Also in I think the 3rd fight where he dropped down, he should've kept himself high for a little longer

  • @marvlombard887
    @marvlombard887 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Su27 is a great looking Jet😊

    • @WNrHuot
      @WNrHuot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be honest, all russian fighters including Su-27 look weird to me comparing with western counterparts.

    • @bluefox9436
      @bluefox9436 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@WNrHuot idk in terms of looks I really prefer the russian desgins - especially the look of the Su57 is so sattisfying to me... the only western jet that kinda comes close is the YF23 desgin

    • @evo3s75
      @evo3s75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, I love how the Su-27, 30, 33 and 35 look!

  • @ahmadfawad6593
    @ahmadfawad6593 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Feel very good to see your DCS videos daily ❤.

  • @TheJuggtron
    @TheJuggtron ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for these vids, my whole dcs life up until now has been staying in bvr, at least now I know what to do in ACM, even if I have trouble tracking the bandit without track ir.

  • @GrayGryphon
    @GrayGryphon ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Do you think there would be any different results in the first turn if you use the 9X in Bore instead of Slave?
    It would give you close to an extra 30° of launch angle and near instant tone. You wouldn't have to wait for the radar to travel to the target, and gain lock. Just uncage and go.

  • @0BuLLeT01
    @0BuLLeT01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Su-27 has so much nose authority!

  • @yuuzyerbrejn9603
    @yuuzyerbrejn9603 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Toxic obviously saw your earlier vid of the Mig-29 v Viper bcs he did EVERYTHING you said to do to defeat the Viper. Great fights!

  • @TheCode27red
    @TheCode27red ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, was really exciting video. Good job. 👍

  • @lb2791
    @lb2791 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hit the brake and he'll fly right by!

  • @jeremyortiz2927
    @jeremyortiz2927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:00 He had blue eyes!

  • @OneOddFellow
    @OneOddFellow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting seeing how the F-16 fares in a High off-boresight/HOBS environment. I'd expect to see 2-cirlce optimized fighters like the F-16 struggle in a HOBS fight; as opposed to aircraft with better High-Aspect performance, like the Hornet or Flanker. While the F-16 seems to be operating at somewhat of a disadvantage, it still clearly is a capable aircraft in that scenario.
    Hope to see more F-16+9x fights from you. 😁

  • @DustinSummy
    @DustinSummy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see you fly the F 35 to show how capable it actually is. It's not designed with WVR as a priority but my understanding is it can hold its own with a pilot who knows the aircraft. Also, maybe when DCS simulates the magic helmet you could pull some little tricks by being able to maintain visual even when the bandit is under your seat in certain one circle situations?

  • @trentlangford9050
    @trentlangford9050 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Flanker is so much bigger than the Viper that in the first kill it looked like the Viper was super far away 😂 I wonder how the initial prototype Viper (with extra wing area) would do vs the Flanker

    • @aunderiskerensky2304
      @aunderiskerensky2304 ปีที่แล้ว

      the japanese f16 variant would be cool to see

    • @dudus9287
      @dudus9287 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aunderiskerensky2304 You mean the F-2? Yea that would be a very close fight, it has some differences compared to f16s

  • @cszabo8899
    @cszabo8899 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice moves by the Flanker pilot.

  • @kadabrium
    @kadabrium ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would love to take a look at tacview to see how all these maneuvers look relative to the ground. The way two planes move relatively still to each other makes it hard to follow how certain maneuvers are executed

  • @jerrodcorey25
    @jerrodcorey25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:31 SWAPPING PAINT BOY . . . . YEEEET

  • @TymaDem
    @TymaDem ปีที่แล้ว

    10:50 kinda reminds me of this scene from Indiana Jones, where this one guy flexes his sword and Indie just straight up shoots him 😂

  • @vincebermudez869
    @vincebermudez869 ปีที่แล้ว

    You had me biting nails on the first fight....awesome.

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro ปีที่แล้ว

    When that Battlefield Theme kicks in!

  • @omaral-maitah181
    @omaral-maitah181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first kill was a ridiculous move by him 🥺

  • @Mycr0bi
    @Mycr0bi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both were pretty good and close.

  • @beautodd3245
    @beautodd3245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What identifies as a new player? I have DCS for awhile but haven't put much time into it. Love your videos. Taught me a lot of dogfighting on many other games

  • @13mschen
    @13mschen ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish we did a little tac view again; that was always super fun

  • @jorgerojas4764
    @jorgerojas4764 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gran combate !!!
    "No es la flecha, es el indio"
    "Is not the arrow, is the indian"
    No fue el F16, fue el piloto.

  • @hendrikmorang2851
    @hendrikmorang2851 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dog fighting is all about range, speed and angle

  • @vegadanial7240
    @vegadanial7240 ปีที่แล้ว

    i keep seeing you make these Su-27 vs F-16 F-15 even Rafales. Reminded me of my country whose actually trying to buy them and your vids is like showing which one is better. lol

  • @brandonsimunac
    @brandonsimunac ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to see some more MiG-28 fights

  • @f1rstlol
    @f1rstlol ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you should fly some Su-35s ;)

  • @princefares7084
    @princefares7084 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salute to TOXIC! well played pilot . Next ask Toxic to be in Su35 then lets ur structures GS 😅

  • @kfklspy
    @kfklspy ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm here for a long time and i allways forget to coment.. here we go.
    First Dogfight was epic!
    At least i allways leave a like .... =b

  • @shaunfosmark
    @shaunfosmark ปีที่แล้ว

    I didnt even know an F16 could manuever that slow meaningfully

  • @tovarish_kommandir
    @tovarish_kommandir ปีที่แล้ว

    Did u see that flanker literally turn it's nose into u in the 2nd round like damn

  • @greybuckleton
    @greybuckleton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In these fights with only 2 IR missiles I think shooting after the 1st turn is a waste. Its defended successfully most of the time. Better to save the missile for a better shot. Also it makes sense to hold on to one missile so the other fighter can't go to the rate fight after the deck transition.

  • @2ndtonone1000
    @2ndtonone1000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would like to see how an F16 Vista would fair against a Sukhoi 27.

  • @johncee853
    @johncee853 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta ❤ the Vulcan!

  • @MrComplainer
    @MrComplainer ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Day35.5: F35 vs SU57

    • @BlyGuy
      @BlyGuy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're persistent, I'll give you that much.

    • @Nick-rb1vk
      @Nick-rb1vk ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’ll only be a 2 min video.

    • @CGoody564
      @CGoody564 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? A su-57 can hang with the 22, it will shit on a 35 (pilot skill being equal)

    • @Sparruh9
      @Sparruh9 ปีที่แล้ว

      those mods suck compared to the actual modules, so no thanks

  • @DDayJayke
    @DDayJayke ปีที่แล้ว

    You were so lucky in that first round.

  • @Chip_in
    @Chip_in ปีที่แล้ว

    Go the flanker...oh wait your flying the F16 ⛳

  • @codychild2665
    @codychild2665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Round 1 was awesome!

  • @jw8697
    @jw8697 ปีที่แล้ว

    I keep expecting the battlefield music to start every time you play a montage.

  • @imdoobie80
    @imdoobie80 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome fight. round 3 you could have high fived the other pilot when he got that close. I still would like to see an F-4 Phantom vs Unknown. see what she can do.

  • @brahyanrodriguez10
    @brahyanrodriguez10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Hold this for me bud" I just love every time he says it lmao

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad ปีที่แล้ว

    He flies like a real Rusky.

  • @canadianpatriot2498
    @canadianpatriot2498 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure if the planes exist in these sims yet, but I'd love to see some WW2 naval aircraft like the hellcat, wildcat, corsair dauntless diver bomber, Zero, ext

  • @superlupo16armin
    @superlupo16armin ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wouldn't it bei interesting to see same aircraft Fights, like Flanker vs. Flanker, Eurofighter vs. Eurofighter etc. ?

    • @gwcrispi
      @gwcrispi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That'll just show who is the better pilot... speaking of which, just how good IS GS in the DCS World?

    • @firebald2915
      @firebald2915 ปีที่แล้ว

      I kinda believe that anyone playing in DCS is aware of GS... and they are honing their skills to make an attempt to challenge him in a guns only or Fox2 fight.
      I've yet to see the chivalrous "throwing down of a gauntlet" as of yet.
      It's the MMA of the Air. Pretty soon it'll be a PayPerView event. Ha!

  • @johnnyqwest6901
    @johnnyqwest6901 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need to see the F-22 vs the YF-23

  • @timbaskett6299
    @timbaskett6299 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be interesting to see an F-16XL in DCS.

  • @AdNeptune
    @AdNeptune ปีที่แล้ว

    Good fight!
    Thinking about the f-16 vs NGAD bfm? Maybe that could out rate the f-16

  • @smorgasborgas
    @smorgasborgas ปีที่แล้ว

    Insightful as always thank you GS

  • @RAF71chingachgook
    @RAF71chingachgook ปีที่แล้ว

    The only reason you won round 1 is because you’re the best freakin sim pilot that ever lived. 😱

  • @toxickilljoy9037
    @toxickilljoy9037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anybody else buy the viper just in case you can ever afford dcs and actually fly it? XD

  • @barbarossa1234
    @barbarossa1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for another awesome video.

  • @pisitpongwang
    @pisitpongwang 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:43 how to enable HUD to follow when you watch around, Mine is always on the HUD display

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      knob you need to turn by your left knee.

  • @stepanpikna6436
    @stepanpikna6436 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the previous end theme musik more :)

  • @matthewwong2927
    @matthewwong2927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow really show the viper’s ability. Keep it going. I hope you can do a F22 vs F15 BVR. I think it would be very interesting for 2 US air dominance aircraft to compete with each other.

  • @reidmortensen2629
    @reidmortensen2629 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    124 knots. You got a gun kill at 124 knots.
    That’s absurd. 4:06

  • @thomassmith4467
    @thomassmith4467 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The flanker pilot is the worst shot I have ever seen. That first match was a joke. He had you dead to rights. Yikes.

  • @RealTorick
    @RealTorick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your content is top tier! the production quality, the commentary, the sound effects just everything cheffs kiss🤌

  • @mr.z6252
    @mr.z6252 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st fight was Spicy

  • @Vicarium
    @Vicarium ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, exciting vid!