THE MORNING AFTER: Analysing the Springbok defeat with Gavin Rich

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  • @jacquesvanzyl8284
    @jacquesvanzyl8284 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    No Manie..No Moerat..No Defence. And that is all i have to go say about that.

  • @SifisoMagagula-v2q
    @SifisoMagagula-v2q 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

    I find podcasters hypocritical. Manie’s confidence was long dented. Being subbed after 30 minutes in the World Cup semi-final, and not being picked for the final at all, then not being picked throughout the season bar few minutes against Portugal, then being picked against a spirited Argentina side, in Argentina, was a classing set up. Also, with Sacha, Polly comes in the second half to clean up any mess that might be there.

    • @ThriveHealth-ep7cj
      @ThriveHealth-ep7cj 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@SifisoMagagula-v2q it’s not about “cleaning up the mess” … Polly needed to be on the bench for the same reason Eben was on the bench. For the experience and to finish the job… I don’t understand why this wasn’t done 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @markburgers528
      @markburgers528 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      10 has always been the kicker is sa rugby. Why?

    • @enriquenelson7184
      @enriquenelson7184 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree journos are very hypocritical

    • @SifisoMagagula-v2q
      @SifisoMagagula-v2q 52 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@markburgers528 But the game evolves. France uses Ramos to kick, a full back. You can’t even name the French 10. Butch James was a 10 that didn’t kick for SA. It is possible to play Manie and a reliable kicker in the same team. You get the best of both worlds and I hope that’s how they’ll use him going forward. Imagine Sacha at 15 and Manie at 10 in the same game. That would be fire

  • @bitcoinnewsview5
    @bitcoinnewsview5 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +24

    Salmaan Moerat is not even in the top ten best South African locks.

    • @Mr.RB123
      @Mr.RB123 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Moerat did missed tackles like Mpimpi,Reinagh and van Staden, etc etc

    • @DubeSafaris
      @DubeSafaris 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Muslim Captain. 1 point loss. Christian Captain 1 point win.

    • @jacoburger6218
      @jacoburger6218 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@DubeSafarisI think we are already past the point of knowing that Rassie don’t pick players based on religion or race

    • @DubeSafaris
      @DubeSafaris 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@jacoburger6218doesn't matter what Rassie thinks. It's what God is showing you

    • @enriquenelson7184
      @enriquenelson7184 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@DubeSafaris You are delusional. Get some help. Nothing to do with religion, measure a guy on his game

  • @Rodney-o1v
    @Rodney-o1v 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    Don't no what Moerat was doing in the team he must b our 6th choice lock at best

    • @waynerockman1242
      @waynerockman1242 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep, Moerat is not convincing at all. Kolisi has a presence like no other, even if he is not the best in his position. Moerat is probably a mute. Manie missing spot kicks is a real problem.

  • @thudeshreenaidoo3330
    @thudeshreenaidoo3330 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    I think we are not used to losing. This is a bit of a shock… even for poor dear Rassie! But remember we cannot win everything. We must be honest with ourselves and say whatever the game plan.. we were outplayed by a truly magic Argentinian side! They are asking questions of the best teams in the world as we have seen… well done to them!! 🙌🏾
    I love the Springboks!!! Win or lose! My blood is green 🇿🇦

    • @cliftonboyz1959
      @cliftonboyz1959 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      one should always strive to win...its the only mentality to have..and if one fails....back to the drawing board

  • @getridofneocons
    @getridofneocons 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    What value does moerat bring to the boks?😂

    • @AC-hu3xk
      @AC-hu3xk 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      NOTHING ZERO , HOPELESS, PASSENGER, LIABILITY

    • @stevenenslin7259
      @stevenenslin7259 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ABSOLUTELY BLOODY NOTHING

    • @AC-hu3xk
      @AC-hu3xk 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stevenenslin7259 Serious waste of time.

    • @AndrewAW-w2l
      @AndrewAW-w2l ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      14 uncles who ‘would have been great Boks’…..

  • @adc5897
    @adc5897 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    One kick or not. The pattern with Manie and missing kicks is there for all to see. Under no circumstances is this acceptable for a top class international rugby team. RWC 2023 would have been LOST if Pollard hadn’t come back. Find other options, Rassie!

    • @natecoet3291
      @natecoet3291 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      The question why not start Manie and have Handre finish the game. We saw Manie in the match against England having a horror show he is not made for high pressure games. It's just a fact.

    • @paulredelinghuys7790
      @paulredelinghuys7790 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@natecoet3291Hasn’t he had more opportunities than he deserves and many of our other fly-halves have yet to get any exposure 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @shanecollins3811
      @shanecollins3811 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Libbok played for WP and had a shocker kicking about 2/3 weeks ago!

    • @stona9222
      @stona9222 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@natecoet3291 Why make special arrangements to accommodate Manie?

    • @conniemogale5224
      @conniemogale5224 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You nailed it mates

  • @antheacarolus8084
    @antheacarolus8084 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you for your measured commentary. I needed this today. I woke up so sad for us and Manie but your perspective really makes sense😊

  • @LyleTarentaal
    @LyleTarentaal 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally we have a final in South Africa in front of our own fans ❤we waited very long for this go Bokke 😊❤

  • @mickeymouse-xr9gy
    @mickeymouse-xr9gy 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Manie is not that young and is not the future. Poor defence, kicking and no BMT

  • @janhbhugo5085
    @janhbhugo5085 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Rassie needs to pull his head out of the sand and choose his players correctly and set them up for success and not failure !

  • @nevillepieterse9983
    @nevillepieterse9983 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Manie was not the only one playing last night, there was loads of players that missed tackles which lead to tries. Boks had a 17-0 lead?

    • @SSAucamp
      @SSAucamp 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      And then the Boks went behind...clawed their way back and gave him a perfect opportunity to silence his critics...and he proved again that he has no balls...no guts...no BMT...he has a mental issue with pressure and will keep failing us in those situations.

  • @manfredleander5528
    @manfredleander5528 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Manie missed a kick but rugby is a 15man game

  • @thabomazwayi4422
    @thabomazwayi4422 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Mannie Libbok and Moerat 😢😢. Let's stop rewarding average players, Dweba was shown the door and i feel these two should follow.😮😮

  • @Whotookcleaver
    @Whotookcleaver 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    Can’t understand rassies love affair with Moerat. He’s pathetically passive and lethargic, plays with the energy of a middle aged amateur club player. Are there family connections with saru or something? Marnie should have started at flyhalf

    • @enriquenelson7184
      @enriquenelson7184 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Rassie just loves that Moerat flew over on his own to England to support the Stormers as a non player the one time and he messaged Rassie while Rassie was still in Ireland. He thinks that shows massive character. He has told that story a couple of times now.

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Plain race politics.

  • @willieexplore
    @willieexplore 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    I am concerned about the four tries we conceded. We did so against the All Blacks too in the first test.

    • @AC-hu3xk
      @AC-hu3xk 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Our deffence is not structured anymore.

    • @GhaniGallant
      @GhaniGallant 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Teams can run around that rush D now

    • @enriquenelson7184
      @enriquenelson7184 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Simple. We let Felix Jones go. Crazy.

    • @AC-hu3xk
      @AC-hu3xk ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @enriquenelson7184 JN was running dffence and Felix Jones ran attack

  • @zackbarrow1927
    @zackbarrow1927 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    It is not that we lost it is HOW we lost.

  • @tilmanvondelft
    @tilmanvondelft 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Time to develop Nohamba & Masuku in Bok squad?

  • @mitakon21
    @mitakon21 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Manie was great in general play, great playmaker. Must not KICK, he'll up his game without kicking too. His missed touch kick was cr8munal, that cost us. Both misses were cardinal.

  • @sv6g3sa64
    @sv6g3sa64 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Let's stop making excuses for Libbok. He's not good enough, PERIOD!!! I for one,I don't ever want to see him in a Bok jersey again. I'm sick of you guys making excuses for him. Where are you guys' cojones?

  • @ShaunGunter-vj2ih
    @ShaunGunter-vj2ih 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Manie's kicking problem is he doesn't always step backwards at the same angle

  • @alwayschilld
    @alwayschilld 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    To me the disturbing thing is the defence gets beaten consistently by clever attacking moves. Our defence is what the other teams are taking note of.If we dont fix this up we will be run to death by rugby league type teams

    • @ThriveHealth-ep7cj
      @ThriveHealth-ep7cj 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      It’s starting to show how vital Jacques and Felix were to the bok team

    • @gordonfortuin1839
      @gordonfortuin1839 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Watching Bok team from Australia Sunday morning.I said to myself The Wallabies and The All Blacks were Leading Los Puma's and the came back from the death.The heath was a big factor.The decision making was never correct.We got greate individuals players.This team put together was a recipe for disaster.Pundits predicated 10 point victory which I ?.Loosing a test not a joke winning momentum creates confidence.

    • @enriquenelson7184
      @enriquenelson7184 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ThriveHealth-ep7cj Man how did we let Felix go? He left England we can get him back in and I am sure Jacques is phone call away. There is a disconnect between our attack and defence are the coaches coordinating?

    • @ThriveHealth-ep7cj
      @ThriveHealth-ep7cj 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@enriquenelson7184 Felix left to be with family , totally understandable… what concerns me is Ireland May snap him up 😭-- as for Jacques maybe he will consult
      For us closer to WC 2027… who knows … the fact of the matter is as back to back winners we kinda need to be winning between as well and not suck right after winning 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @AndrewAW-w2l
    @AndrewAW-w2l ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why was Jean Klein playing for Munster yesterday and not the Boks????

  • @W0nderer
    @W0nderer ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Manie has had his chances. It's been a long time on this issue and it's not getting solved. This conversation had been going on for too long.

  • @W0nderer
    @W0nderer ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Brendon and Gavin there were other important things to talk about...
    Lots of comments about Salman?
    Cobus seemed much better.
    I think Handre ran out of energy.
    Not sure about Gerhard or Jan Hendrick yet?
    Tonyball doesn't seem to be a defined DNA yet. The test seemed to be half 2019 kicking game and half attack.

  • @cliftonboyz1959
    @cliftonboyz1959 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Rassie ...loyal to a fault.....Libbok without a kicker, incessant use of Moerat (never mind handling him the captaincy), when is not yet up to par.

  • @SSAucamp
    @SSAucamp 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why would you want to make special concessions for him? Even if he isnt a kicker...where was he on attack? Boks scored no tries with him on?
    So if he cant kick
    And he cant make tries
    Why the hell must he be given yet another chance? We have alot of young flyhalves in SA that would use their opportunity better.

  • @zebinmarais4697
    @zebinmarais4697 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Both wrong, after the shock Argie first try they changed the game plan away from Tony ball! Attack was removed, they need to learn to stick with what works! Mental thing! 🤔

  • @Mr.RB123
    @Mr.RB123 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It not only Manie thats the problem, its Manie's kick the mistackles from Mpimpi, Reinagh, van Staden, etc etc, the officiating crew, the breakdowns and scrums, late tackle on Fassi, lying around after tackles at the breakdown, think one good thing was Manie, Mpimpi and Reinagh showed their time is up, Nohamba, Jordan Hendrikse, etc etc must come in, it only Wildkard that has the balls to say it as it is, lots of respect for him, all of u talk around that problem the officiating was also not up to standard, but we should have won despite of the poor officiating

  • @mvubu6823
    @mvubu6823 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Otd just astonishing to see how the true character of South african fans comes out.
    Brandy swilling morons who would light the entire team on fire for a missed kick.
    We have scrapped wins for 2 years and pretended like we an unstoppable force. The shocking basic skills, poor lineouts and forced plays.
    Not a word about SFM missed kicks vs NZ.

    • @BrendenNel
      @BrendenNel  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      The talk is about yesterdays game. If we mentioned every thing that every player did we'd be here for hours. Plus gavin did mention sachas missed kicks. But hey throw the insults without knowing who you are talking to.

  • @ajayc641
    @ajayc641 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    More worried about how the Boks defensive system has fallen apart.. How did this happen? Pollard made a big mistake when defending out wide = easy try.. Mapimpi allowing an Argie through for an easy try.. And so on... This for me seems to be the real issue. Even against the ABs the Boks looked frantic in defense.

    • @ajayc641
      @ajayc641 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pollard allowed 2 tries though due to a missed tackle and rushing out of the line.. 14 points for free.. Many other examples of straight forward missed tackles by others.. The team lost this game, not an individual.. Also raises serious questions re the defensive coach and his chaotic system..

    • @enriquenelson7184
      @enriquenelson7184 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Jacques and Felix Jones are gone

    • @AndrewAW-w2l
      @AndrewAW-w2l ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Defence is fucked since Jacques left

  • @paulredelinghuys7790
    @paulredelinghuys7790 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    Stop waffling about Manie making excuses or excusing from kicking. We HAVE OTHER FLYHALFS, starting with one that won the CC with making a difficult kick.

    • @paulredelinghuys7790
      @paulredelinghuys7790 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      15 of 34 minutes of the podcast 🤯. What are you really saying, are you all paid by Super Sport / Chasing the Sun and they now control the optics and Springbok rugby 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @ThriveHealth-ep7cj
      @ThriveHealth-ep7cj 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Jordan didn’t do well in his first bok outing… we have a flyhalf problem as Polly and SFM is not enough

  • @jasonmcnelis8258
    @jasonmcnelis8258 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is Goosen a back-up option?

  • @Nkanyiso131
    @Nkanyiso131 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think Gavin isn’t aware of the permutations. Argentina only need to win with a bonus point and by more than 7 to win the RC. Points difference will not come into play because of the head to head stats. That’s why the public is furious with last night’s showing because now they have given Argentina a sniff. They beat NZ away from home - would you be willing to bet your house on them not to get a victory in SA? I know I wouldn’t

  • @peterwomersley
    @peterwomersley ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    the facts are that even at the Stormers his success rate is low He is not a goal kicker!!

  • @wirigumbie5798
    @wirigumbie5798 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Th8is sounds like the Fox News version of rugby…..

  • @natecoet3291
    @natecoet3291 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sh ould vring Jordan Hendrikse have him play a bit grt hik up to speed.

  • @Capie
    @Capie 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

    My view ..
    Manie & Moerat should not be in the team ..
    Rassie should be held accountable. At the moment he is seen as SA's rugby god and can do whatever he wants. How? Bonuses for wins and penalties for losses. Problem solved ...

    • @SifisoMagagula-v2q
      @SifisoMagagula-v2q 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      You realize you are talking about a rugby god? The man who won back to back world cups? Who transformed the Boks making the team acceptable to all South Africans? Made Siya Captain, discovered players that would never play for the Boks due to their economic background such as Mapimpi? Please have some respect for Rassie. It’s one loss, 1 point, with a bonus point and still firmly in the rugby championship driving seat. One loss and we have a crisis? Hold your knickers

    • @larsniehaus176
      @larsniehaus176 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@SifisoMagagula-v2qexcellent comment 👍. I fully agree with you.

    • @corriebezuidenhout3380
      @corriebezuidenhout3380 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Stop whining this was the best thing that could happen to the boks ,this loss will win us many games to come,just apply a bit of commonsense😊

    • @jacquesvanzyl8284
      @jacquesvanzyl8284 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Both uselesd

    • @Nkanyiso131
      @Nkanyiso131 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@corriebezuidenhout3380it’s that arrogance which has led to us to this point. I don’t think people realize the magnitude of yesterday’s loss. It means Argentina effectively just need to get a bonus point win against us in SA even with an inferior points differential and they will go on to lift the trophy based on H2H. Last night’s result was a disaster

  • @Burninglash
    @Burninglash 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Enjoyed your chat. I find it interesting that no one mentions the jetlag. 11pm effective time plus jet lag is brutal.

    • @stona9222
      @stona9222 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      First of all, they have been there for a week already and secondly, they travelled from east to west.

    • @Burninglash
      @Burninglash 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@stona9222 I don't know how much traveling you have done , but I have done the Jhb NY trip a number of times, my personal experience is that a week is not a lot of time to adjust and I don't play international level sport. On top of that adjustment they then had to play at effectively 11pm. So almost 180 degrees out of sync. This was a major factor in our less than stellar results in super rugby. Perhaps you are not aware of that.

    • @stona9222
      @stona9222 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Burninglash I am not such a jet setter, however, travelling from west to east should technically be worse than the other way round.

  • @user-uk8kv3nd7q
    @user-uk8kv3nd7q 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    No one is talking about the elephant in the room, Moerat? I'm sorry but how many chances does he have to get? It's one thing to select someone for his captaincy credentials, it's quite another to put up with his poor line-out jumping and "hospital passes" he keeps giving to other players. I've never seen someone hold back for so long on a pass before passing it once the opposition is on your lap. I would have thought you're a good player first before being selected as a captain...something doesn't make sense. What am I missing @Brenden?

    • @enriquenelson7184
      @enriquenelson7184 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Rassie's bromance with Moerat. He loved that Moerat flew over to support the Stormers with his own money and messaged Rassie asking what he could do to help. Rassie loved that.

    • @user-uk8kv3nd7q
      @user-uk8kv3nd7q 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@enriquenelson7184 Indeed, the problem is though that could be viewed in two ways, either as committed and showing support or as a teacher's pet. Anyway the bottom line is he needs to buckle up because Jean Kleyn, Lood, Sous are al coming back eventually, we don't pick players as captains first...Rassie knows this I'm sure. Make Sasha the next captain in 2 years time. Graham Smith was captain of the Proteas at the age of 21, and had a stellar career with strong leadership, it can be done.

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Plain race politics.

    • @BalesengMoroke-i4f
      @BalesengMoroke-i4f 17 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@enriquenelson7184

  • @BrettStealth
    @BrettStealth 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jaden Hendrickse was a good scrum half who also played a fantastic fly half game at school level where he was the outstanding main place kicker. He carried Durban's Glenwood school into the top 4 nationally.

  • @mikhaildas
    @mikhaildas 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Argentina needs to win by 3 trys to get the BP, they don´t need 50+ points because it will be decided on the head to head between the two if they tie 19 points. Still, almost imposible, but you never know.

    • @W0nderer
      @W0nderer ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They have to win by the alot because they need a bonus point and because of our points difference.

  • @seannorris7993
    @seannorris7993 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Love G’s input, agree with so much he has to say. 👍🏼

  • @tyronst-84
    @tyronst-84 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great content as always Brandon. Enjoy hearing Gavins thoughts on the game.

  • @andrevanaardt1948
    @andrevanaardt1948 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Take away players who do not perform, match fees and fine for 3 matches. Morrat se moer Libbok se Nobok

  • @seannorris7993
    @seannorris7993 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It was the teams fault we lost. Our defense was very poor, 26 missed tackles!! Rassie wants his players put under pressure, we pay now, but benefit later.

  • @leighsmith6927
    @leighsmith6927 7 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Maanie missed kicks when he played for province in the Currie Cup as well. The problem with Maanie is that he can only play at 10.

  • @robbiejones9340
    @robbiejones9340 37 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Ramos from France is a good example of a metronome kicker (Kolbe charge down aside)

  • @NS-nk9hf
    @NS-nk9hf 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Those who state they do not know what Moerat is doing in the team are quite disingenuous. Rassie stated himself why...Moerat is presenting a specific demographic group. In that lies the answer already that Moerat is surely not in the team as the best player. Moerat is an average player at best. All the talk about where he comes from and how good he was as school boy and U20 is all smoke and mirrors.

    • @ethancroft5512
      @ethancroft5512 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      They know why he is in the team but if they admit it, they will have their channel squashed. No established rugby journalist in SA will run the risk of being honest about interference in selections.

    • @KobusRabie
      @KobusRabie ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Moerat school level lock nothing more why not bring in Jason Jenkins as well we have problems in our line outs as well rassie pse chase away Moerat truly

  • @groenrizla2513
    @groenrizla2513 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Well it's undeniable that this Bok squad missing 7 of their star players would play in a final. If anything it gives confidence and we are used to seeing Rassie try match the Bok squad to the team they play, experiment didn't work this time and it's easy to pick apart why which is what all the rugby channels are doing but a tweak here or there, defence issue, missed tackle, yellow card, missed kick at goal or the sideline, a lineout, unexperienced captain etc could've easily gone the other way and Libbok would've been carried around like a hero had he pulled off a Steyn or Pollard moment, these top games are won by very small margins and I think Rassie has now answered all the questions he needed.
    We must not forget the quality of rugby of a well preforming Pumas side, equal to that of NZ, Aus, Eng, Ire on a good day and to have just come short considering PSDT, Kolisi, DDA and all the rest weren't even playing is quite remarkable.
    The other point is that all teams around the world have been studying the Boks D. The game and strategies progress constantly so emotion aside this is not a train smash for the Boks as much as it is a celebration day for the Pumas so let them have it, it's good for the sport and good for Argentina, they waking up after sleeping through the RWC, well done to them for beating the big SH 3

  • @superbowljoel01
    @superbowljoel01 59 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Manie missed two touchline kicks from a difficult angle to win playoff games. One against Glasgow in the URC quarter final and one against La Rochelle in the champions cup quarter final.

  • @thembamadi
    @thembamadi ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    @Brenden Nel i saw at the end of the game, the Argentine's hoisting atrophy... that same trophy I keep asking about ? Whats the name of the trophy bud ?

  • @22grena
    @22grena 47 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Funny how no Saffa commentator talked about the SA v Ireland elephant in the room: Kolbe's deliberate dive to cheat a win.

  • @paulcrossman4724
    @paulcrossman4724 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If you guys want to talk for hours, I’ll gladly listen for hours

  • @daverogers2240
    @daverogers2240 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why do we not have Braam van Straaten as our kicking coach. I simply cannot understand why such a successful rugby brand have not employed Braam. We have all the other fancy coaches - attacking, defence, scrum, ball handling coaches but no specialist kicking coach. It pathetic to say the least. We will lose the next world cup because we are too tunnel visioned to employ Braam.

  • @reggielionel
    @reggielionel 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Defense lost us the game not Manie

    • @Nkanyiso131
      @Nkanyiso131 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      As bad as our defense was we still had the opportunity to win with that last minute pen - so no one is buying that

  • @CptRumcan
    @CptRumcan 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Manie is an avrage kicker but under pressure he is a horrible kicker. Kicking under pressure is literally in the springbok fly half job description... We lost so many games in 2022 when willemse kicked for goal and he had the exact same problem. Why don't they learn!!!?? Even before that, when Elton jantjies lost us games coz he could kick under pressure.

  • @brendonjennings3934
    @brendonjennings3934 52 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting measured discussion. In Rassie we trust.... bring on the threepeat

  • @GhaniGallant
    @GhaniGallant 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Y can't u guys give credit to pumas thy came back from 17-0 down come on u guys are sore losses.....

    • @BrendenNel
      @BrendenNel  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      If u listened to the entire video you would have seen we did. But our chat is about the Springboks. So we talk more about them

  • @janhbhugo5085
    @janhbhugo5085 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Boks are number 2 in the world now ! But who cares ?

    • @sakabula2357
      @sakabula2357 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      If we win next weekend I think we will be top again.....if anyone cares

    • @Alias-gy3tz
      @Alias-gy3tz 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@sakabula2357No we won't. We are playing at home against a team ranked lower than us, we can not gain any ranking points, we can only lose points.

    • @stevenenslin7259
      @stevenenslin7259 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      The points system is a absolute joke,the way it's calculated and which makes the World Rankings a farce.
      Example, Ireland only gets to the Quarter Finals in the WC and is placed second in the World Rankings,but the Springboks & All Black's,win there games in the Quarter Finals,Semi-Final and meet up in the Final of the WC,
      South Africa moves to 1st place in the World Rankings and here is the ridiculous thing, the All Black's are placed 3rd in the World Rankings,
      and the Springboks have won 18 of there last 20 games and only have lost 2, but now they are moved to 2nd World Rankings,completely ridiculous.

    • @KobusRabie
      @KobusRabie ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      What matters about 2nd place who are world champions that matters 😅

  • @adc5897
    @adc5897 19 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Brenden - some time should have been spent focusing on SALMAAN MOERAT. At least on TV we saw NOTHING of leadership or inspirational skills. Others have pointed out he didn’t chat to the referee and he didn’t get his players together meaningfully during the 26 point horror stretch. Worse than Manie, Rassie surely cannot continue to accommodate him on perceived future captaincy value when arguably he’s further down the rankings in locks as Manie is in flyhalfs. Might as well give the vice captaincy to Sacha when he returns - he’s got swagger AND talent!

  • @smarteraccounting3247
    @smarteraccounting3247 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why are the Boks always behind by 4 to 12 points at half time...and then they have to fight back with the help of the Bomb Squad in the last 20 minutes to win the game narrowly??? Sigh...this is FAR TOOO STRESSFULL!!

  • @peterwomersley
    @peterwomersley ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Pollard was heat exhausted

  • @Wozza7
    @Wozza7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My question - everyone knows Pollard kicking % is way better and should have come on in the last 20min when it's important, start a play maker if you're not going to take the 3. The game plan was stupid

  • @NormanRichards-mq2in
    @NormanRichards-mq2in 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Manie spends too much time managing the shot clock - ready, aim, fire!

  • @gunnertheharleyrider7594
    @gunnertheharleyrider7594 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Manie is under pressure because the shotclock is in his head.

  • @robinpengelley2123
    @robinpengelley2123 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They should have started marnie and had polly on the bench. I think they are not doing well by marnie he needs game time. And no one is noticing our other guys missing kicks

  • @zackbarrow1927
    @zackbarrow1927 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I will ask this about any player. How do you not have confidence and at the top of your game at that level? WTF are you doing there then? Either you can kick consistently or you had better bring something else to the game.

  • @davidclowes2280
    @davidclowes2280 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Manie missed a sitter 5 points by offloading when he should have held it. He has to play more to get the pressure plays!! Loose forwards and Salman very poor. Back line also poor. Bomb squad nearly pulled it off!!

  • @leonardkope251
    @leonardkope251 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    My concern is the apparent lack of rugby nous from our players . In a situation where we know we must score to win a game , I don't see our guys doing anything constructive to make this happen . Full time professionals should better be able to dictate things on the field .

  • @dawidjansen608
    @dawidjansen608 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bok fans feel let down by this performance.... Not because Boks lost, but more because of the manner in which they lost. It's not that Argentina won the game as much as Boks lost the game. Boks could have, and should have, won this test match. The poor execution of some basics when not even under much pressure led to their downfall and it should never have gotten to the pressure situation on the kicker in the final minute.

  • @peterwomersley
    @peterwomersley ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The Sharks no 10 or the Lions no 10 should be given a game

  • @BalesengMoroke-i4f
    @BalesengMoroke-i4f 8 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Excuse my afrikaans: manie speel soos a tannie,hy dink hy kan maar hy kanie,skop soos pollard of mngomezulu, want hy is nie a zulu 😂😂😂 poetic hey!

  • @beatrixstrydom1323
    @beatrixstrydom1323 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Springboks supporter am I and totally Rassie Believer South African follower quoted three times World Cup champions 🏆 in fact we The Springboks hold four world Champions 🏆 two in a row going for three in a row ...so proud 👏 and absolutely 💯 love rugby ...
    Beatrix Strydom

  • @Nkanyiso131
    @Nkanyiso131 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can you imagine if the Pumas win the rugby championship in South Africa! All hell will break loose and everyone will be after Libbok’s head

    • @ajayc641
      @ajayc641 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      But Pollard directly let 2 tries in via missed tackles = 14 points plus a missed conversion.. Maybe they should ask for his head rather?

    • @Nkanyiso131
      @Nkanyiso131 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ajayc641Pollard single handily won us the 2023 WC - he can afford to have a bad game. He has credit in the bank. If it weren’t for him we would have gone home in the QFs

    • @ajayc641
      @ajayc641 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Agree, my point is not to blame Pollard tbh.. Just that everyone should look at the bigger picture in yesterday's game.. Plenty other mistakes were made and that is just how it is.. They cannot blame 1 or 2 okes for the loss..

    • @Nkanyiso131
      @Nkanyiso131 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ajayc641 unfortunately the blame will ultimately lie with him. If the kick was 50m on the angle - then one could forgive him - but practically missing straight out in front from about 30m at best is very poor ! If you can’t nail those kick in important moments what hope do we have for him to deliver on the biggest stage

    • @ajayc641
      @ajayc641 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Well, if Pollard did not gift 16 points then we did not need a 3 point kick.. So we disagree then.. All good

  • @ktm690endurorally
    @ktm690endurorally 2 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Moerat and Eskom needs a to go! Especially eskom. We have a whole bus load of loosies that can play Tony Ball so much better. Faster, better ball skills and tall enough to be jumping options

  • @chichevaldez3744
    @chichevaldez3744 42 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Vamos Pumas carajo!

  • @internationalconsultant1200
    @internationalconsultant1200 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Let us address the elephant in the room , which is Salmaan Moerat. Quota system all over again. And the ither players know it. Libbok should never have played for the Springboks after thd first few games expoaed his shortcomings.

  • @bradleysparg69
    @bradleysparg69 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The Bottom line is It was not a difficult kick !!!!
    It was his Job to Kick it over , he is NOT OF INTERNATIONAL KICKING STANDARD...
    Rubbish .... Manie played for WP A week or so ago...I think .

  • @leonguisti9355
    @leonguisti9355 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We will lose the championship thanks manie and moerat 😮

  • @cliftonboyz1959
    @cliftonboyz1959 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    stop making excuses...messrs rich and nel...there are plenty of practice sessions!

  • @SSAucamp
    @SSAucamp 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    This one guy with the glasses is a real puppet...manie fanboy...cant forgive and keep making excuses for manie...he needs to go back to Dobbo and his hoola hoop team...

  • @mountainman9145
    @mountainman9145 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    'Analysing the Bok defeat' - really!! thumbs down on this one. Generalizations galore and reminiscing about games from 1990s left me no wiser on what and why it all so went wrong.

  • @ryanwaugh1
    @ryanwaugh1 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I dispute his game time as a defence. Even when he was playing week on week he was missing posts. Sacha at fullback and we rotate the pivots. Fullback could come in like a flyhalf.

  • @mpilodigitalmarketing
    @mpilodigitalmarketing 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Marx had a shocker all tournament.

    • @ethancroft5512
      @ethancroft5512 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Rubbish. Marx is far more active in general play than Bongi. His lineout throwing needs some work, but Bongi was far worse in the second test against the ABs.

  • @superbowljoel01
    @superbowljoel01 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Argentina don't have to win by 50 points. The tie breaker before point differential is head to head wins. If Argentina win with a bonus point while denying the boks a bonus point, they win the championship. Overall points difference is immaterial

  • @chichevaldez3744
    @chichevaldez3744 42 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Vamos Pumas carajo!