DOES MANIE LIBBOK DESERVE ANOTHER SHOT?

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  • @victorswart7411
    @victorswart7411 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Over and over he fails under pressure. If a team dont mind losing, well pick Manie. As general player not bad but as kicker, he cant cut it. He must go. International rugby nit for him.

  • @alexanderweideman324
    @alexanderweideman324 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    Its not Manies fault, He's not supposed to be there.

  • @luthovellem865
    @luthovellem865 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    should this even be a question when we have given Willie Le Roux a million chances having made a million mistakes.

    • @leratomosala3269
      @leratomosala3269 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      True❤

    • @frankvsnschalkwyk6030
      @frankvsnschalkwyk6030 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      True dat

    • @ManieVanRooi
      @ManieVanRooi 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's about pay cheques ,then he can retired well off is old for the game

  • @petermomogos3836
    @petermomogos3836 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Rassie is the only one who knows that he didn't lose the game! It was lost on defense!!

    • @OscarOSullivan
      @OscarOSullivan 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      If it was lost on defence then you still lost the match.

    • @wenerbronkhorst7455
      @wenerbronkhorst7455 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅

  • @leondupreez1123
    @leondupreez1123 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Doc Craven said: You first pick your fly half and then you pick the rest of the rest of the team.
    Manie s kicking style cannot be fixed ,so it time for him to go.Never in a Bok jersey again please Rassie!!!!!%#@$()

    • @dawieviljoen9323
      @dawieviljoen9323 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      We can fix his style very easily… however allowing him to kick at 62% is a coaching error

  • @abdulwahaabdavids5162
    @abdulwahaabdavids5162 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    U wrong by even questioning his ability. Manie is a gifted player. His ball skills are second to none. This is unfair criticism for a player who has won more games than what he lost for his team.

  • @Nasklipa
    @Nasklipa 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mannie could have won us that game but missing that kick didn't lose us the game ,17 - 0 and argentina bounced back like they were playing against themselves . When the captain can't carry the ball a meter forward what the fuck are you people expecting 🤷‍♂️ if Vincent and Eben stayed on the bench for a nother sec it would have been 50-28 eaazzyyy

  • @danielplaatjies9093
    @danielplaatjies9093 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    That not manie fauit 15man is inthefield

    • @HayManned
      @HayManned 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      All his fault

    • @charldpuk
      @charldpuk 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe try commenting in comprehensible English before your 20 brandies

  • @johnrosant4454
    @johnrosant4454 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Even the English commentators did not wanted to read out his name when announcing the reserves I think he was Owen but not one time during the game he criticize Fassi mapimpi for weak defence

  • @DewaldMatthysen
    @DewaldMatthysen 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Like he cost us the game against Ireland.

  • @frankvsnschalkwyk6030
    @frankvsnschalkwyk6030 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Natuurlik sal ek verstaan j is wit, interesant j blameer ni Polard wie se conversion bokke sou instead van 28 eerder 30 gekry het. Kyk met kritiek, ma altwee het 1 skop gemis, op kritieke tye, but ja, dus Manie se skuld,

  • @trevorraath8381
    @trevorraath8381 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    he must go back to club rugby and go mess around there

  • @xaviermurray7698
    @xaviermurray7698 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bring the same energy when other players make mistakes please. Pollard also missess and yet dead silence.

    • @PaulTerry-l8x
      @PaulTerry-l8x 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Oh please.... no comparison...

    • @wenerbronkhorst7455
      @wenerbronkhorst7455 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I see u feeling sick? Get well soon.

    • @hustleoffice
      @hustleoffice ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Pollard haven’t lost a game before for missing kicks

  • @xaviergreyling6620
    @xaviergreyling6620 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    As Rassie said: SA should NEVER have been in a situation to win, to leave it to a single kick! He also said it was a gamble that did not pay off.
    Then again if you look at the entirety of Libbok's contribution and the primary schoolboy error of fudging the penalty kick for the 5meter lineout...and his poor inaccurate passing ...just overall poor, poor decisions in the few minutes he was on the field...it was just one of his off days. We all know, a nr.10 CANNOT have an off day! Pollard had off days...Jantjies had off days...and SA lost those games beautifully!
    Something I have also noticed many years back with Libbok playing for the Stormers during the URC.....Dobson could spot Libbok being a liabilty....sometimes as early as 15...20mins into a game and would sub him immediately!
    And yes I fully agree with your analogy of employment: you cock up in your job, the Labour Act then protects you four...five times...but then your ass is out! But many times certain individuals remain untouchable....no matter how many times they cock up! Then again, and I really dont want to bring politics into this...but ja, let's also look at the SA ministers...from Exec all the way down to local authorities...I don't think I need to say more.
    We need to ask ourselves: are members of of our national teams (not only rugby) really the best of the best of the best? And, if not, why not?
    Final thought: Proof that compliance before competence is indeed the best???????
    Thnx for the vid!

  • @clarencelouw3112
    @clarencelouw3112 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    My advice to Manie, pack your bag, go play in Europe and earn pounds. These haters will always be on your case. 4 tries in a space of 20 minutes against the boks, and the focus is on Manie, the scape goat.

    • @PaulTerry-l8x
      @PaulTerry-l8x 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Which European Club will sign him... 😂

  • @henryshen5445
    @henryshen5445 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Percy sucked in goal kicking in 1997, we lost the Lions series because of his goal kicking but he fixed it and from 98 till the end of his career, he was the guy. Libbok seems he didn’t care despite the outcry from the RWC last year.

  • @LeonJohannesLionKing
    @LeonJohannesLionKing 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Why is everyone on Mannie Libbock's case. Pollard missed a kick & missed a tackle bmt stuff that led to a try for Argentinians but the public overlook their golden boy Pollard. Looks like Manie is the only one making mistakes. Ja it's good to win but than you need to do it in a proper way. Not by 1 point. Springboks game yesterday wasn't pretty at all. Now they also know how it feels to loose by one point. Just my view as a Springbok Supporter

  • @zwakelemgabhi
    @zwakelemgabhi 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    While I agree with your sentiments, I still feel really bad for Libbok. He must be gutted right now. 😢He must also know that, outside of an act of God, his bok career might be over. Hendrikse might be taking his spot from now on

    • @frankvsnschalkwyk6030
      @frankvsnschalkwyk6030 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Why people blind to Polards key miss conversion, both Manie and Polard missed 1 key kick

  • @eugenemakwena6792
    @eugenemakwena6792 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We didnt lose because of Manie. He had 2 opportunities to give the TEAM the advantage. He over cooked a kick to the corner and missed the penalty at goal.

  • @mohammedamod4993
    @mohammedamod4993 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Did Mannie play against Ireland in Durban ?

  • @gavinroelfse6145
    @gavinroelfse6145 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is dit amper soos hy vir Willie al jare trug mos shack?

  • @ewenmacleod15
    @ewenmacleod15 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Where is it written that the 10 has to kick. Give the lad the opportunity to be a genius. Leave the kicking to lesser mortals. If you want an example, study the career of Finn Russell.

    • @victorswart7411
      @victorswart7411 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      You a dreamer no doubt kerp on dreaming about Manie, the rest of SA loves winning not dreaming about winning like years ago when AB were unbeatable.

    • @HayManned
      @HayManned 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not even a place for manie in the stormers mix

    • @xabisombilini5440
      @xabisombilini5440 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ewenmaclead15 Dude, if you're gonna be a fly-half for the boks, you have to be a good goal kicker it is law. We tend to pick specialists. Take Ox, for example, there are props who can get around the park better, but he's picked because he's a hell of a scrumager. Perfecting your primary duty is what gets you picked and is what makes you retain your spot. We don't have a luxury of a Percy Montgomery anymore. A Springbok 10 simply has to able to kick the bloody ball.

    • @ManieVanRooi
      @ManieVanRooi 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They must remove goals kick from penalties and play rugby from line outs and then ball do the work , some teams depends on penalty goal kicks

    • @HayManned
      @HayManned ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ManieVanRooi you're bias because you share a name with the worst kicker of all time

  • @ronaldbrown3764
    @ronaldbrown3764 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why is it such. a debate for the past 6 to 8 games he has conceded between 8 to 15 points every time which has overall contributed to the loss of a game he is too costly to keep him on in the green and gold jersey the game is just too competitive to keep him on as our kicker

  • @real_bakerman
    @real_bakerman 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Manie came on in the 60th minute. He wasn't the reason the Boks were behind. Also Pollard missed points.
    You look like you've never played a single game of rugby in your life.

    • @xabisombilini5440
      @xabisombilini5440 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Think about the match against France in the World Cup. Two teams are very close. There's quality all over the park. We get a scrum pen, a chance to take the lead.
      Do you want Libbok kicking that pen? NOOOOO!!! you don't.
      We won't blow everybody out the water. We gonna have close games where a kick decides everything.
      Manie is not good enough.

    • @frankvsnschalkwyk6030
      @frankvsnschalkwyk6030 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Presies, Polard key conversion, would have made score 28 +2=30

  • @paulthoma9858
    @paulthoma9858 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Who are you????

    • @real_bakerman
      @real_bakerman 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nobody. Probably never played a game in his life.

    • @xabisombilini5440
      @xabisombilini5440 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's a Springbok fan just like you. He has a right to an opinion.

  • @wernersteyn5620
    @wernersteyn5620 49 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    a flyhalf is a playmaker by nature
    a flyhalf knows that
    60% of his game is kicking for goal or winning territory
    he even kicked the ball dead, which could have been a line out maul =try
    e.g
    its like a quarterback in NFL, if his throw is off, they fail
    its a 15 man game yes, but you must step up, its your moment

  • @henryshen5445
    @henryshen5445 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We need at least two kickers, like when we had de Beer a Percy or Eales, Burke and Larkham. Great teams always had more than one kickers. Libbok cannot kick

  • @CliftonChristie-v2y
    @CliftonChristie-v2y 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Mannie Libbok is a runner not a kicker.

  • @EddieAbersalie-uo4wh
    @EddieAbersalie-uo4wh 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Agree, there's no excuses for Manies inconsistencies with kicking,he has to go.Look for other no 10 eg at Lions and Sharks this Curry Cup final 🤦😬💪

  • @vernonsaayman9741
    @vernonsaayman9741 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone can miss a kick, happens to the best, its always a gamble, there were bungles on both sides,bad luck,

  • @jacky23pretoriuspretorius31
    @jacky23pretoriuspretorius31 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Pollard maybe a better kicker but manie is a better play maker

  • @ManieVanRooi
    @ManieVanRooi 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Example Bachop of All Blacks was not a kickable flyhalf

  • @daangeldenhuys732
    @daangeldenhuys732 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Done PLEASE!!!!!!

  • @hustleoffice
    @hustleoffice ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    SA has better fly halfs that needs a chance , i think the pressure is too much for manie especially after missing a kick in the world cup that cost them the game. If manie got this kick over he would of gotten his confidence back i am pretty sure but the pressure was to high for him he needs to go back to province teams to prove himself

  • @MrDude-ht3rv
    @MrDude-ht3rv 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think Rassie should look into bringing Ethan Wentzel from the Cheetahs into the bok squad because he’s a good attacking 10 & he’s still young & he can kick

    • @Curogroupmi
      @Curogroupmi 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I fully agree with you

  • @shaunhaman6958
    @shaunhaman6958 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Not a bad player, just not Springbok quality for the number 10 jersey.

  • @normavanjaarsveld5997
    @normavanjaarsveld5997 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Please let Manie go

  • @williemowes3939
    @williemowes3939 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Manie and moerat must go

  • @YeshuaisEMET
    @YeshuaisEMET 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why does everyone blame Mannie? Let's be honest did his miss kick cost us the game or...
    Marx bad line outs
    Kurtleys high tackle that cost us 4 tries
    Or Reinachs terrible kicking choices
    Or our terrible defense.
    Stop blaming Mannie and rather get behind the boys and start encouraging them.
    I trust The man that put guys together and won 2 world cups, the rest of us that ain't bok potential needs to start trusting😂

    • @Lonelywolf147
      @Lonelywolf147 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      If u rewatch the last 2 minutes...Jessie kriel blatantly enters from the side....was a Pumas penalty not Boks...TMO and ref fast asleep!!!😢

  • @albineastlhokomelo7820
    @albineastlhokomelo7820 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Personally His fired!
    But realistically speaking he will grow

  • @johnrosant4454
    @johnrosant4454 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Boks only scrummed well all aspects of the game was $#@& no front foot ball for backline to attack and with Am at inside centre everyone was playing for himself

  • @paulthoma9858
    @paulthoma9858 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So you NEVER FAILED IN LIFE.F the boss boss

    • @HayManned
      @HayManned 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Manie has failed time and time again. Drop him

  • @Mojo-IRE
    @Mojo-IRE 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I can't believe Siya Masuku wasn't the 2nd choice Outhalf for SA. He was brilliant last season.

    • @HayManned
      @HayManned 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Jordan Hendrikse is better

    • @Mojo-IRE
      @Mojo-IRE 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@HayManned Masuku outplayed Hendrikse last season. The Sharks wouldn't have won a trophy without him. I'd pick him.

    • @HayManned
      @HayManned 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Mojo-IRE jordan has insane bmt. I'm yet to see Masuku slot a 60m penalty

    • @Mojo-IRE
      @Mojo-IRE 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@HayManned Masuku showed big match mentality in the Challenge Cup Semi final where he lead the comeback against Clermont. Hitting the winning conversion at the end of the game.
      He then bossed Gloucester in the final. Man has BMT by the boat load.

  • @robertisaacs6817
    @robertisaacs6817 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Before the game I read a lot of comments about how great it was too see Libbok back and how he must show the rugby world just how great he is ,blah ,blah ,blah. That's the thing with these "world cup Bok supporters" who jumped onto the wagon end of last year. You never saw Manie under pressure in the URC final where he basically played for Munster. Ps. URC stands for United Rugby Championship (that's for the "Fong Kong Bok supporters"). Libbok have never been very good at rugby and he is just in the team for political reasons. There ,somebody said what REAL SUPPORTERS of rugby already knew for a number of years now.

    • @johnrosant4454
      @johnrosant4454 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Fassi mapimpi Am too if that's politically right

    • @johnrosant4454
      @johnrosant4454 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Man you should shut up

  • @xabisombilini5440
    @xabisombilini5440 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The guy can't kick at all. People say its not his fault we lost but it is. You're going to have situations were two top quality teams are so close that a kick decides the entire match. I don't want Libbok kicking for posts in that scenario.
    Somebody else should be given the chance. We tossed away Jordan Hendrikse after having a poor debut and we give Manie countless opportunities.
    The guy's got to go, go!! The fella's gotta go!!!

  • @WaylonDeReuck
    @WaylonDeReuck 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Manie is nie n bok libok

  • @ronaldkoen2714
    @ronaldkoen2714 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My gevoel is. Jammer Ek is Nie negatief Nie. Stem Saam as jy gekies word as n Springbok Vir n Doel en veral as n losskakel behoort jy as speeler op te staan in presure Tye. Veral Soos vanoggend 1 skop en nee dit was Ni n moeilike skop Nie. Dus voor die Palle skop die bal oor. Mannie ht te veel bewegings en vat te lank. Stel Di bal tree terug en Hou jy kop AF en skop. Ek ht self Palle toe geskop op my Dae. Jammer Mannie maar it Kos ons as Springbokke games. Jy word betaal Vir jou Doel in daai span. So skrik wakker jy maak dit moeilik Vir jou self

  • @rossitherhodie5659
    @rossitherhodie5659 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Simple answer NO NO NO

  • @sanelezulu9201
    @sanelezulu9201 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It’s risky to play Manie

  • @ronaldkoen2714
    @ronaldkoen2714 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Pollard Moe's nooit die veld verlaat ht nie

  • @marklivingstone6704
    @marklivingstone6704 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    High risk

  • @henrycollins7527
    @henrycollins7527 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    man,manie se gat!

  • @jameswright9513
    @jameswright9513 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Erasmus to blame 🙈🙈🙈🤡🤡🤡

  • @nicotitus4059
    @nicotitus4059 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hi mannie is his own enemy but how many times was Willie Le Roux given to his test career one mistake and you guys are harsh on mannie it takes time to perfection how long will it takes you to built a relatioship with your girlfriend to get married

  • @kudzanayimusara8271
    @kudzanayimusara8271 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    1. Drop Mannie whilst there is still time for 2027 wc. Forget about Mannie. You dont owe him anything. I think he can never be better than what he is today. Mannie has been given more than enough time to prove himself, but he has failed dismally.
    2. Give Sacha more game time.
    3. Get more no. 10s so that there is back up just in case.
    4. The fullbacks should also take up the kicking roles
    5. Last but not least, keep Pollard so that the new guys learn as much as they can from the veteran.

  • @pierretheron5708
    @pierretheron5708 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Manie can play if we have another goal kicker, like in 2007 when Percy kicked while Butch James on flyhalf. I think Manie is good player, but not kicker

  • @JohannesPetrusJooste
    @JohannesPetrusJooste 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Libbok is done He doesnt deserve another chance Jordan Hendricks is a better proposition and so is it with Moerat

  • @RudolphAucamp
    @RudolphAucamp 26 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Please Rassie can't we just get over this guy. He is really bringing nothing to SA rugby any more

  • @nic6061
    @nic6061 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    No I do not think so

  • @Ell-p2o
    @Ell-p2o 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    sacha is a far better player then manie .. even hendrikse is better .. manie only played well against scotland

  • @subbie5498
    @subbie5498 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    what abt eskom and a few others had horrible games like so bad like even the lions would be better jordan hendrikse cant even be lions first choice

  • @WendellBrand
    @WendellBrand 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So gaan kak moet nie stront praat nie

  • @Sayitlikeitis1990
    @Sayitlikeitis1990 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Mannie must go..

  • @sherwincasling-sl5nr
    @sherwincasling-sl5nr 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I dont agree with you , If you feel so strong about this take a look at the Springboks of 2007 Butch jame was @ 10 and Percy @ 15 but percy was hailed with Habana to bring the cup for us.
    No one said Butch Jame must kick or drop Buth James from 10.
    So to come on this platform and to decide the fate of a young talented player such as Manie is not for you and me to judge him for sinking the game.
    We should blame all 15 players for for not sealing the game for us.
    The same game when Pollard miss a kick we say he has got a off day @ work and we overlook he's mistake
    So we overlook certain players mistakes and others not.
    So we accepted a 15 to kick in the past and a 10 not.
    I still feel that Manie has got alot to offer us as a nation and we can solve that issue now as we have done in 2007.
    We can do the same now with Manie @10 and Sacha or Jordan @ 15

    • @HayManned
      @HayManned 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Because Pollard is good. Manie isn't.

  • @real_bakerman
    @real_bakerman 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Manie came on in the 60th minute. He wasn't the reason the Boks were behind. Also Pollard missed points.
    You look like you've never played a single game of rugby in your life.