The Sony ZV-E10 II is FINALLY a Great, Affordable Creators' Camera!

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    On paper, Sony’s ZV-E10 II might look like a fairly minor upgrade over the original. However, nearly all of our issues with the ZV-E10 have been addressed with this new model. Is the best choice for a $1,000 camera for content creators? Chris Niccolls and Jordan Drake have done some testing, and have the answers.
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:19 - The new kit lens
    2:58 - Original ZV-E10 limitations
    3:53 - The sensor
    4:52 - Handling and controls
    5:37 - Built in audio
    6:40 - Display
    7:06 - Stabilization
    7:49 - Processor upgrades
    9:04 - Autofocus
    9:54 - The competition
    #sony #sonyzve10ii #vlogging
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  • @gamebuster800
    @gamebuster800 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +171

    There is no excuse for bad screens in 2024. It is time to make it usable in sunlight.

    • @OnlyCitrus
      @OnlyCitrus 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      and that said camera comes from SONY, one of the top display manufacturers.

    • @alen2937
      @alen2937 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@OnlyCitrus As far as I know, sony does produce some LCDs but it is not the top one... that would be LG/Samsung.

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@OnlyCitrus good point, brighter screen is so overdue but I guess they can't improve everything at once - keep things less pricey

    • @JayJayYUP
      @JayJayYUP 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alen2937 Just look up 10,000 nits Sony CES 2018. They do make the best displays on the market, all reference monitors for color work in the high end is filled with Sony mastering displays. The only thing that comes remotely close is things locked away in R&D labs of Dolby, or Flanders. So yes, Sony does make the best displays if we're talking money-is-no-object. Consumer displays of course are currently ruled by LG/Samsung just because they're the only consumer OLED producer of note.
      And as for @gamebuster800 There are multiple excuses for unusable screens in sunlight. Battery life, heat, and costs. Overpowering the sun is something dedicated monitoring displays in the field have trouble doing. You're not getting in consumer cameras, especially not on something ~$1000 hybrid camera.
      Please think a bit more folks, there are bad choices, there are malicious choices, and there are financial choices. It can be a mix of all three, and not just something done to irk consumers, otherwise there would be at least one company willing to cater to demand (if film still lives, you can believe usable displays during high noon on cameras would be something companies would love to offer if it made sense).

    • @popinjayjunior7698
      @popinjayjunior7698 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@OnlyCitrussony displays has been declining for almost half a decade. Along with marketshare, they also reduced rnd. Thanks to chinese display manufacturers

  • @MoTecZA
    @MoTecZA 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    How could they even forget to mention the Fujifilm Xs20 a spectacular hybrid Vlog camera.
    6 k open gate ,422 10 bit , inbuilt stabilisation , all the newest film simulations, FLog 2 and the list goes on.

    • @dmacnet
      @dmacnet 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      XS20 autofocus is terrible, though. Mine can’t even maintain focus on a static talking head reliably, and if someone moves in a shot forget it, pull out your phone.

    • @photographybypetercharles9939
      @photographybypetercharles9939 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@dmacnet My X-S20 AF is very reliable, better than the EV-10. It's so reliable that I use it on AF in my studio. Something that I've never done with any camera before. Previously they've all been on MF. The X-S20 AF is rock solid. If you're having problems, I'd suggest revisiting how you have set things up.

    • @vRyanXOXO
      @vRyanXOXO 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ive been condidering it for a while but the fact people will have it overheat literally from just going in the menus is what kills it for me completely.

    • @photographybypetercharles9939
      @photographybypetercharles9939 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vRyanXOXO What? Never heard or experienced such a thing. No credible reviewer has ever reported overheating as a problem, plus we can mount the external fan on it if we wish.

    • @vRyanXOXO
      @vRyanXOXO 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@photographybypetercharles9939 ive seen it a lot over reddit and its driven many others away too; people also say the fan barely helps but its a bit more hit or miss depending on the person. that being said yeah i havent heard nearly as many complaints on youtube, so that does confuse me a bit.

  • @benlambert8481
    @benlambert8481 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    7:06 You can see that jello wobble from the electronic stabilization, even with the lens offering some stabilization.... not great.

    • @victorlim5077
      @victorlim5077 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yeah, very obvious from the poles.

    • @AdamKuzniar
      @AdamKuzniar 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      yeah, you need way higher shutter speed for e-stab

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s a vlogging camera. Doesn’t matter

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Just get the S9, best stabilisation in the market

    • @benlambert8481
      @benlambert8481 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@michaelbell75 🤣

  • @wuming9151
    @wuming9151 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    video quality looks bad

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    Congrats on passing 200k in subscribers!

    • @And_Sun_Yk
      @And_Sun_Yk 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How much did PetaPixel have before they joined?

    • @classic.cameras
      @classic.cameras 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@And_Sun_Yk like a thousand or something. When the fellas announced they were going to PetaPixel from DPReview it jumped to 60k overnight.

    • @derekmcgaming
      @derekmcgaming 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@And_Sun_Yk They created the YT channel when they joined

  • @OldGirlPhotography
    @OldGirlPhotography 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    There is some weird just noticeable blurriness in this footage - just not as crisp as other cameras. At first I thought I set my TH-cam playback resolution really low, but no. I'll stick with my Osmo Pocket 3.

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      it's the active stabilization, they mentioned it in the video if you watched it.

    • @80-80.
      @80-80. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It might be that Jordan used ND filters for “cinematic shutter speeds” (I think he's that type of videographer), but it's a disaster in combination with digital stabilization. This is just a guess though.

    • @POVwithRC
      @POVwithRC 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@OldGirlPhotography what am I supposed to do with this deeply personal information that you will be sticking with another product? How does this factor into my daily life 🙂

    • @wanderlust0120
      @wanderlust0120 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      My thoughts exactly. I kept checking my TH-cam resolution settings.

    • @OldGirlPhotography
      @OldGirlPhotography 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@POVwithRC I guess you can ignore it if you choose.

  • @willhouse
    @willhouse 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    No IBIS is a dealbreaker. In 2024, that's akin to lacking autofocus.

    • @phoenixvette
      @phoenixvette 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I could really se this as being a helpful small gimbal rig or as a C cam where A and B are an FX3/6 production. You could stick this little guy in places you can't with an FX6. Every camera has it's purpose.

    • @joshuamontgomery0
      @joshuamontgomery0 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It'd be perfect if you needed something for a tripod!

    • @MuhammadKharismawan
      @MuhammadKharismawan 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It's less of an issue if you actually plan your purchase and use stabilized lens with it also.

    • @Skux720
      @Skux720 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      IBIS lol just hold the camera steady

    • @finnharvor6773
      @finnharvor6773 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree. Odd choice by Sony given the competition.

  • @EXkurogane
    @EXkurogane 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    No mechanical shutter, No EVF, No IBIS, but $1000 body only. Easy money for Sony selling a bare bones entry level model in 4 digits because all the youtubers will tell you it is the best thing ever made because it is a Sony. I just can't brain the price jumps. A6400 was cheaper when it came out back in 2019. It is okay to omit those hardware from an entry level camera, but only as long the price reflects that.

    • @Minsetti
      @Minsetti 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      The inflation adjusted value of $899 from 2019 is about $1104 today. So basically the ZV-E10 II is cheaper than Sony A6400 in 2019.

    • @patrickmckeag3215
      @patrickmckeag3215 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Minsetti Good point. My first new house was $19k.

    • @amazonfinds9157
      @amazonfinds9157 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They are selling 10bit

    • @scooottbruh7849
      @scooottbruh7849 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I hate the word "inflation". Makes you think there is some magical hidden thing that makes the prices high. When it really should just be called corporate greed.

  • @StYfReX
    @StYfReX 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    5:05 Right here on the trash. LMAO

    • @AdamKinMI
      @AdamKinMI 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I heard that too. 😅

  • @lfcruzsierra
    @lfcruzsierra 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The Lumix S9 was confusing but this one is great with no IBIS? Now that's confusing.

  • @80-80.
    @80-80. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    Not too bad
    Proper HDMI: ❌
    Headphone output: ✅
    Battery door/tripod mount clearance: ✅
    Sufficient battery: ✅
    IBIS: ❌
    S-Cinetone: ✅
    Easy switching between 25fps / 60fps: ❌
    3 dials: ❌
    Joystick: ❌
    Best-of-both-worlds-tilt/flip screen: ❌

    • @shang-hsienyang1284
      @shang-hsienyang1284 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Buy: ❌

    • @hellopsp180
      @hellopsp180 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      forgot to add No Mechanical Shutter to the list

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hellopsp180 & 4k120

    • @hex_1733
      @hex_1733 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      And no EVF

    • @benjaminzipser6021
      @benjaminzipser6021 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Buy ✅

  • @funtaril
    @funtaril 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    $400 cheaper than a6700, but we're losing IBIS, EVF, mechanical shutter, more stable autofocus and 4K@120.
    Honestly not sure if $400 is quite enough to justify all that (for general photography on a budget). For $900 it would be more convincing.
    Also - you didn't even cover ports selection? And TALLY LAMP? What happened to you?
    Edit: just watched couple of other videos and oh god, this is the most "first quick look" of all first quick looks, I expected more from you.
    To anyone interested in MUCH more detail I'd recommend Mark Bennet's comprehensive review, it makes this camera make much more sense. And Gerald's for overheating tests.

    • @nomanCyclewala
      @nomanCyclewala 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      maybe the price will drop eventually. honestly i expected this camera to be at 800 or lesser.

    • @alvarovids1915
      @alvarovids1915 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sin contar que la a6700 la podes comprar usada un precio de 1250-1300 in great conditions so it would be 250 more for the real good features. Is a no brainer

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nomanCyclewala 800 is too low, just look at Panasonic S9 price of about 1500 😧

  • @teohyc
    @teohyc 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No IBIS is an instant deal breaker

  • @Edvanfleury
    @Edvanfleury 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I think the next great release from camera brands is a camera that doesn't record video neither take pictures 😁. And the reviewers will still call it the best vlogging camera

    • @user-tj8ox8iy8m
      @user-tj8ox8iy8m 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah, we're slowly moving into a space where reviewers are now admitting that their bills need to be paid, so...we get reviews like this.
      And nothing wrong with that, as everyone needs to make a living.
      Just pick your 'reviewers' carefully.

    • @whatwelearned
      @whatwelearned 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-tj8ox8iy8m 99% of TH-cam reviews aren't worth the paper they're printed on. People need to treat them as fun.

  • @MicroFourNerds
    @MicroFourNerds 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Absolute Lumix G100 vibes. No IBIS?!

    • @molybdnum
      @molybdnum 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly my thoughts. G100+ibis when, Panasonic?

  • @bradl2636
    @bradl2636 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    You can’t be serious. Camera Conspiracies is gonna rip this to shreds. In 2024 a “vlogging” camera with no IBIS, no mechanical shutter, crop in 4K60, ridiculous crop in software stabilisation, measly 1MP LCD… c’mon guys 😂

    • @nickguzman1734
      @nickguzman1734 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If it was a Lumix this camera would be destroyed

    • @MagivaIT
      @MagivaIT 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yep and the quality looked terrible, this says more about the presenters selling out than it does about the crap camera. so disappointed

    • @racooninvasion
      @racooninvasion 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MagivaIT These "presenters" are a couple of total assholes, every single article for any product ALWAYS has a glowing review -- they are shills.

  • @photographybypetercharles9939
    @photographybypetercharles9939 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have the original EV-10 and the thing is a glorified point & shoot camera. It's OK as long as we don't plan on using it in any lighting situation that would require us to take control. Setting up the MRs for your most often used settings is an excellent idea, but be aware that it saves these settings to the SD card, so if we change cards or format them, bye bye MR settings. Chris and Jordan did not mention if this had been dealt with in the version II camera, so beware.
    The camera is designed for phone users looking to step up without having to learn anything about photography/videography. For that market segment it is great. For anyone who knows what they are doing, this camera will drive you nuts, new menu or old.
    If you're wondering what happened to mine, I relegated it to a simple job that it doesn't screw up and one that I can set up an MR to manage the job. For anyone who is a real photographer/vidoegrapher looking for a real hybrid camera that can vlog as well, pay the extra and get the Fujifilm X-S20.

  • @BrownieX001
    @BrownieX001 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The screen not being legible in sunlight is not excusable when we have sub 600 dollar phones with better screens.

  • @MiguelMorenoGP
    @MiguelMorenoGP 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Damn, I was still hoping for a mechanical shutter. This would have been a great second body to my a6700. The mech shutter on the first one let it do a lot of cool stuff with flash and etc in such a cheap package

    • @funtaril
      @funtaril 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      a6100/a6400 are still available (and cheaper)

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it is a great second body for video, and you have your a6700 for your photo needs. Unless you're wanting one for a photography assistant?

    • @MiguelMorenoGP
      @MiguelMorenoGP 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jammaschan yeah, but I do little video and the places I'm mostly working actually kinda need a mechanical shutter. Might as well spend the money on lenses for now and rent a second body when needed

    • @POVwithRC
      @POVwithRC 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@MiguelMorenoGP If you do little video then this shouldn't even be in your list.

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@MiguelMorenoGP this is a terrible choice for a photo camera, the older ZVE10 should be a better choice if photos are a priority over video, though obviously you can't really match video.

  • @marklion315
    @marklion315 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Am I crazy or does the Pana S9 seem like a better option here? Well it is more expensive.

    • @Minsetti
      @Minsetti 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's a full frame camera and the whole ecosystem is much more bulkier and expensive than APSC.

    • @JJARCHIE
      @JJARCHIE 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And crops at 4k60

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Minsetti that's an important point about sensor size, big difference

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Minsetti
      Hmm. The ideal vlogging lens for the S9, the Sigma 17mm f/4, is quite light and compact, and adds a much-needed aperture ring. Versus the Sony 11mm f/1.8 the size and weight are a wash. You do get a faster lens with the Sony, but lose stabilization. Soon Panasonic will also release the 18-40mm collapsible zoom, which is going to put a lot of pressure onto these APS vlog setups.

    • @jonccwong
      @jonccwong 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JJARCHIEand yet the mark II has a 4k60 crop too 4:22

  • @johannvantassel4604
    @johannvantassel4604 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i dont think sony realises how much difference a good screen can make. One of the main reasons canon cameras “feel” nicer is because their screens make the images look way better

  • @evilcab
    @evilcab 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    will people also complain about this camera iike the lumix s9? this also did not have a mechanical shutter and a viewfinder.

    • @TDCIYB77
      @TDCIYB77 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      And the S9 actually has IBIS (Not this wobbly E-stabilization) & is Full Frame.

    • @funtaril
      @funtaril 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      but there's no clip length restrictions

    • @sooslolify
      @sooslolify 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes I will actually

    • @TDCIYB77
      @TDCIYB77 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@funtaril Will have to see how the ZVE 10 II does on overheating.
      In reality, judging by the precedessor, i would guess not much difference in record times.
      Even though i would say that Lumix shot themselves in the foot publizing recording limits and enforcing them instead of like Sony just ignoring the topic.

    • @funtaril
      @funtaril 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TDCIYB77 predecessor had quite different stuff inside.
      Gerald's tests show that in many environments it can run for much longer than 15 minutes.

  • @TheUnknownVideographer
    @TheUnknownVideographer 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    No IBIS. huge crop...no EVF....overheats...... Sponsorship must have paid well.

    • @benjaminzipser6021
      @benjaminzipser6021 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it's 1000$, overheating is reasonable, huge crop in what regard, because 4k60 1.1x crop in this price range is really good...

  • @timothyboucherbirder
    @timothyboucherbirder 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Bird singing in the background- Yellow Warbler!!

  • @popinjayjunior7698
    @popinjayjunior7698 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think realistically, anyone looking into the zv-e10 should be steered towards the fuji x-s10. While the kit lens cost a bit more, it has way more features, besides 4k60

  • @ChillBuilds
    @ChillBuilds 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Weird, based on everything you said, and the price, I came away with a completely different conclusion.

  • @ChrisReedPerry
    @ChrisReedPerry 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    idk... now I want a GH7

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      completely different sensor techs

    • @JJARCHIE
      @JJARCHIE 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      At twice the price ?

    • @LakeHowellDigitalVideo
      @LakeHowellDigitalVideo 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@JJARCHIECloser to two and half times the price 😎

    • @JJARCHIE
      @JJARCHIE 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LakeHowellDigitalVideo exactly

  • @CriticalTechReviews
    @CriticalTechReviews 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good review. Overall I'm disappointed, because I was expecting it to retain the 4k120 to remain competitive with phones, but have lack of IBIS be the gimp that drives people to the A6700. Between artificially removing the 4k120 and removing the shutter so it's useless as a photo camera...yeah. No. Not for 1k when a used S5II is 1200 and has a shutter.
    And especially not with the weight gain. The ZV-E10 was the smallest and lightest APS-C body you could get from Sony since the NEX lineup, with the kit lens it's doable in a pocket. This gained .3" thickness and an ounce of weight. That's a big jump.
    I really hope they update the ZV-1 so people with "real" cameras can have something nicer than a phone that's still convenient to carry everywhere, because clearly they don't want the E10 to fill that role anymore.

  • @Warlock_UK
    @Warlock_UK 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How is recording in 4k? The ZV-E10 I have will basically overheat after something like 25-30 minutes unless you pop the battery door and use an external power bank.

  • @kevinsoundmixer
    @kevinsoundmixer 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yaaaay the camera I've been waiting for 🥰🥰🥰

  • @1vbAPiYk
    @1vbAPiYk 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    07:06 Sony, this vide quality is just embarrassing

  • @TRwalks
    @TRwalks 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I can't afford a cinema rig setup and I'm not a fan of merrorless ergonomics for video. So I'll wait for the updated NEX-VG30 or maybe an updated canon xc15 with apsc... 😂 I think I'll be waiting for a while.

  • @MyLifeFrAiurGaming
    @MyLifeFrAiurGaming 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Lumis s9: whos laughing now?

  • @trulsdirio
    @trulsdirio 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    This is a lot of marketing spin on something that has no IBIS for videography, no mechanical shutter for photography, comes with a mediocre screen, has no real HDMI, still has no front dial, has a weird zoom toggle that nobody asked for and overall isn't what actual creators asked for. Why?

    • @pzark3638
      @pzark3638 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cause it costs a thousand dollars..? Of course it's going to be a stripped down version of the FX30

    • @kart182
      @kart182 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pzark3638that isn’t a valid justification

    • @sentisenti3229
      @sentisenti3229 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They don't even put review in the title so it's just some promotional video and who know how much they received for posting this video. For the price proper vlogging tool like pocket 3 is better and your phone can took the same bad still image😂

    • @kart182
      @kart182 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sentisenti3229 that’s cause it’s pre production and always say they don’t call that a review because they aren’t able to fully test these cameras on the press trips

    • @SonyAlphaVisions
      @SonyAlphaVisions 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just buy an A7RV or whichever camera has all you want. This is for people that don't need or can't afford all that.

  • @gerardneedham
    @gerardneedham 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    No ibis what the…. Like removing the mech shutter is bad enough lol

  • @johnwaine56
    @johnwaine56 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My daughter moved to Calgary last year and doesn't send me many photos of her new locality. So the Petapixel review videos shot in and around Calgary keep me up to date. Thanks for that!

  • @bondgabebond4907
    @bondgabebond4907 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing to do with your old ZV-E 10 is to give it to your kids or grandkids. Get them started on photography with one of the cutest cameras ever made.

  • @robertpersson7970
    @robertpersson7970 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    No IBIS = Game Over !

  •  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This camera is definition of market segmentation and cripple hammer. Sony, tell us - how many of these cameras do you sell and how much do you earn on each one?

  •  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I think the xs20 is better camera for the money

    • @kazeshiii
      @kazeshiii 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I managed to find one new open box on FB Marketplace for $1000. That's the same price this new ZV-E10 II is selling for.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The XS20 is $300 more expensive….

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kazeshiii it's kinda pointless to compare new camera prices to second hand seller prices though? Most of the second hand XS20s where I'm at are still well above that $1000 mark, meanwhile I saw a fully functioning xt3 selling for $400. It's just time and luck for getting great deals in the second hand market, you can't compare it to MSRP

    •  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelbell75 yes but worth every penny

    •  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes with evf ibis for both video and photo better rolling shutter and better autofocus and way better color profiles

  • @danieldougan269
    @danieldougan269 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The next APS-C camera from Sony really needs dual card slots. It's understandable in a camera like this, but not in the a6700.

    • @r3dn0w
      @r3dn0w 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Quite possible, they already caved on the front dial! 🤣

    • @youknowwho9247
      @youknowwho9247 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why would you want that on a crop sensor camera? Redundant cards are for professional use, and for professional use you should use full frame anyway.

    • @FlappySock
      @FlappySock 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@youknowwho9247 Nah, redundancy is great for casual photographers and any format. Also 2 card slots just lets you customize how to save your stuff, and it lets you get more memory without buying more expensive larger capacity card.

    • @alvarovids1915
      @alvarovids1915 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@youknowwho9247professional users also use apsc sensor. Welcome to the tercer mundo

    • @iggy880
      @iggy880 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@youknowwho9247Depends on what you call professional because plenty of large productions have used APS-C. Especially with studio work where they can control lighting so it's not even a concern

  • @trym2121
    @trym2121 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If fuji were to decrease their xt50 price to $1100. It'll kill this thing completely

  • @mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112
    @mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Too bad no Hi-Res (6K+) or even 4K Open Gate recording in any Sony consumer/prosumer-level (-priced) cameras... Sony are losing a LOT of customers for Panasonic and Fujifilm because of their reluctance to add at least Open Gate.

  • @everydayisextra
    @everydayisextra 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Years ago, when my son needed a good camera for school and personal video projects and I was in between DSLR cameras, waiting for an affordable 4K/60p solution, we settled for the then newly released A6500. I knew its limits and that I wouldn’t get happy with it, but I didn’t know how bad this thing is with recording video longer than 20 minutes. Practically absolutely useless for me.
    By now, I’ve been able to make myself very happy with an A7M4 and an A7R5 while the A6500 gets zero use.
    I am wondering now if it would be a very meaningful upgrade (especially in the video department) to sell the A6500 and get the ZV-E10 II as a dedicated backup camera and third option for tripod based video recordings of events? Is there anything at all that I would be missing from the A6500?
    Thanks for the first look video, very well done as always, guys!!

  • @ted5017
    @ted5017 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This new camera brings great savings; don't buy it and save 1,000 USD. After Fuji X1000VI, Leica D-lux and Lumix S9, we thought that the lack of innovative ideas was the norm, but we were wrong. Now Sony raised the bar to its limit by not listening to the user needs and bringing a "new" camera without mechanical shutter, dark display, no IBIS, no 4k120 and no EVF. And the cherry on the top: more expensive than its predecessor and with weak electronic stabilizing solution that demands high cropping. Where can I buy one?

  • @AstroLaVista
    @AstroLaVista 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sony A6100 user here. I see no major reason to upgrade other than 10 bit and Cinetone. I like having an EVF for video even though the 6100's EVF isn't a great example. I was waiting to see what this camera was like, but I think I'll keep the 6100 for the great work horse it is and pick up an old BlackMagic OG to scratch that colour grading itch.
    Thanks to Chris and Jordan for the first look though, I've been curious about this expected release for ages now.

    • @iggy880
      @iggy880 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The ZV line has never been really an upgrade for the a6000s line, generally within the a6000 line is the next upgrade, like an a6700 which is a great camera with all the features

  • @RJW998
    @RJW998 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sony really likes to keep fairly basic spec upgrades back to bring out later. They did it with the crappy evf in the original A7 c, I sent mine back, annoying.

  • @strongereveryday2302
    @strongereveryday2302 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I vlog with a panasonic ag-cx10. These creator cameras are garbage. A camcorder is more convenient.

  • @shelbyt4509
    @shelbyt4509 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the OSS on the lens working together with the Active stabilization? I though you could only use one of them, but not combined

  • @slr7075
    @slr7075 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What's with the "new" plastic lens mount Sony?! This is an alarming step backwards. I thought this died a decade ago with cheap DSLRs.

  • @user-tj8ox8iy8m
    @user-tj8ox8iy8m 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This review falls into the category of: Sometimes we watch Chris & Jordan for Chris & Jordan and not for the camera.
    After all, everyone has bills to pay, so I respect that.
    Regardless, I ain't going anywhere, and will still tune into Petapixel and Chris & Jordan.
    And I didn't even realise I wasn't subbed, so here's a sub and a like 🙂
    Thank you to Petapixel and Chris & Jordan! Keep doing what you are doing.

  • @Dr.Ford-Ai
    @Dr.Ford-Ai 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    from the footage u can still tell the stablization sucks , even the lens has OIS

  • @gordon3988
    @gordon3988 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I thought Chris did a great job doing the videos of Jordan…it must be a pretty good video camera!! OK, don’t walk and talk, but unless an action camera I say that almost all the time.

  • @youssefmohammed5456
    @youssefmohammed5456 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Does it have a shutter ?

    • @gamebuster800
      @gamebuster800 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      no, as mentioned in the video

    • @CallMeRabbitzUSVI
      @CallMeRabbitzUSVI 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@gamebuster800 BIG YIKES! 😢

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gamebuster800 tbh I didn't realize they mentioned it lol

  • @phoenixvette
    @phoenixvette 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Perfect for families who need a compact video camera for getting memories of their kids, not so much content creators. I'd also say it makes a super nice web cam. Good Job Sony!

  • @moneyboys2010
    @moneyboys2010 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just noticed the comment section is so accommodating with Sony overheating but smashed the Lumix S9 for placing recording limits to prevent overheating. Hilarious. Go from ZV-E10 M2 to the FX30 for $800 more for no overheating or go from the S9 to the S5 II for $200 more for no overheating. We really are tribal Camera snobs. 😀

    • @TheUnknownVideographer
      @TheUnknownVideographer 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's shills and wannabe shills. Like the comments section in DJI videos. Just trying to be noticed.

  • @ridgefield
    @ridgefield 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cherished memory, regardless of a camera. Yet it did a great job. They now became a gentlemen and a young lady. Good to see the old days, and thank you for putting these together!

  • @nugrahithaaditya2696
    @nugrahithaaditya2696 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it possible to use background defocus to take photos on the ZV E10 II?

  • @CriticalTechReviews
    @CriticalTechReviews 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fact that an iPhone 4 had a better resolution LCD with better viewing angles and sunlight readability FOURTEEN YEARS AGO than modern cameras that cost 9x as much (looking at you, A1...), is deplorable.
    MANUFACTURERS: GIVE US 2000 NIT OLED QHD PANELS LIKE ON PHONES, THAT USE THE WHOLE AREA OF THE FLIP OUT!

  • @IFrancyISantosI
    @IFrancyISantosI 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    there is some kind of correction that created a weird blurryness between the frames. it looks really weird. its mostly on walking shots..
    am i the only one seing this?

    • @Rashadmcka
      @Rashadmcka 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They mention the electronic stabilization and blurry frame in the video?

    • @IFrancyISantosI
      @IFrancyISantosI 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Rashadmcka ah.. that's probably the part I skipped and went directly to the conclusion 😅

    • @alvarovids1915
      @alvarovids1915 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@IFrancyISantosIme too 😂I’ve looking for a reason to get this camera instead of the a6700 just to pay 400 less but no way… ibis is so important.. using third part lens like sigma 16 the footage would be shitty on this camera. Not even at 10 bit 422 4k 60fpa 😂

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alvarovids1915 also this active electronic stabilization has a massive 1.5x crop in 4k60, & 1.4x in 4k24/30 which will drastically soften image quality

    • @Rashadmcka
      @Rashadmcka 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IFrancyISantosI sometimes I watch it all and miss stuff. *shrug*

  • @pete_au
    @pete_au 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Really? I'm a bit confused how you could reach that conclusion yet pan the LUMIX S9 !?

    • @lfcruzsierra
      @lfcruzsierra 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I’ve asked myself the same question... How is this considered a good recommendation when the S9 is odd and confusing? The screen quality is poor, there’s no EVF, no mechanical shutter, a smaller sensor, and no IBIS. On top of that, Sony has an awful track record with firmware updates.This camera leaves you no room for growth...
      If I had chosen this camera instead of the S9 based on a review, I'd be pissed off. 😂

    • @pete_au
      @pete_au 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lfcruzsierra Totally agree! 👍

  • @tomrozylowicz7585
    @tomrozylowicz7585 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How does it compare this the gh7?

  • @brianbeattyphotography
    @brianbeattyphotography 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    not bad. IBIS would've been a huge upgrade though

  • @bunnyhallow
    @bunnyhallow 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:10 just found out that the shutter speed can be set to 1/48 or 1/96 like the FX30, like wtf the ZV-E1 don't even have that feature yet.

  • @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST
    @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:01 I heard Christicles the three times I replayed it to make sure I heard right!😆

  • @hellopsp180
    @hellopsp180 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    No Mech Shutter
    No 4k 120
    No IBIS
    ALL FOR THE Affordable Price of £1,000 - This is atrociously bad of a deal.
    I feel like they made this camera to just push everyone towards the a6700 instead due to its illogical self imposed limitations
    But spending £1k for an APSC body when you can easily get an FF for just a little bit more.

  • @GeekyNerdyTechy
    @GeekyNerdyTechy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome stuff guys! Great video.

  • @ItsMidasProductions
    @ItsMidasProductions 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What’s with all the complaints in the comments? The a6700 is only $400 more… why complain about this cameras lack of ibis, mechanical shutter, 4k 120 etc. when there’s literally an option from Sony for not too much of a premium that fulfills those needs?

    • @TheUnknownVideographer
      @TheUnknownVideographer 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because it's a vlogging Camera in 2024 that has less features then cameras that came out many years ago?
      IBIS is kinda an important thing for vlogging.

    • @questioneverything680
      @questioneverything680 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@TheUnknownVideographerso get an a6700??? It literally has all the features you’re looking for. What’s the point of being stuck on what it’s marketed as when you can just look at what it is? People use cameras outside of their marketing all the time. If you want a Zv-e10 II with any combination of ibis, a mechanical shutter, a viewfinder, 4k 120, etc. you literally have an option that fulfills those desires. The Zv-e10 ii is not the camera for you, so stop expecting it to be something it isn’t and literally pick the option in front of you that has what you want.

    • @NadiaPink
      @NadiaPink 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheUnknownVideographerwhat is IBS? I am a persons who knows nothing about cameras 📷 people like me don’t know all this terminology. But I need a new camera for sit down talks,vlogs and vlogs in my home. I also wouldn’t mind learning to take nice pictures but I need an easier less technical camera.

  • @reluctantone7516
    @reluctantone7516 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Priced so close to the a6700. Why bother?

  • @mrfroopy
    @mrfroopy 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What about the very drastic recording time limitation?

    • @benjaminzipser6021
      @benjaminzipser6021 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      what limitation?

    • @mrfroopy
      @mrfroopy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very quick overheating and short record tike in high framerates

  • @juangarcia_actual
    @juangarcia_actual 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This camera was a huge let down

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I love how we are going backwards now in the camera world.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s a budget vogging camera….

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Sony did the same with the ZV1. It was a fun hybrid but they removed these advantages for the ZV1ii

    • @POVwithRC
      @POVwithRC 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@SMGJohn I love how you think we are when it does not appear to be the case. Everyone needs a hobby I guess.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@michaelbell75
      There is nothing budget about 1100 euro pricetag, perhaps if you come down from those ivory towers you would realise if you wanted a "budget" vlogging camera, we are talking now more in the 500 to 1000 euro price range something like a Canon R10 or a GoPro.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@SMGJohn $1,000 cameras are budget in 2024. Welcome to the real world

  • @VANSmallhousen
    @VANSmallhousen 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    im not sure to wait for this or get the zv- 1 ii mainly buying it to record concerts and if the size is much of a difference

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      those two are very different cameras

    • @codythep
      @codythep 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Zv1-ii isn’t gonna do it for you in low light

  • @peterlames
    @peterlames 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    isn´t the fuji x-s10 priced similar with much more features like ibis/evf/mech shutter?

  • @javicreates
    @javicreates 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    BUT DOES IT OVERHEAT?!!

  • @POVwithRC
    @POVwithRC 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been a bit of a eager baby for the next gen ten. The first absolutely had it's place but with some serious niggles and flaws. I hope Sony has done better with this one. The pool of parts and technologies they have to draw from for this version is a lot better than the pool they used to make the first one.
    Also sort of keen to see how the second gen kit performs. OSS in lens has largely been abandoned and I don't like that at all.

  • @asafbadiri5078
    @asafbadiri5078 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Video is great as always. but this Sony's footage is so ugly .. what went wrong here ?

  • @QuietOC
    @QuietOC 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The original PZ 16-50mm has a linear motor.

    • @JamesDuguid
      @JamesDuguid 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nope, it uses a stepped motor.

  • @Jus10video
    @Jus10video 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone gonna mention that it’s almost a 1” sensor with the active stabilization on?

  • @MaxR.
    @MaxR. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You lost me at no IBIS....

  • @simoz78
    @simoz78 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Why Sony still cant provide 25/30p XAVC HS is behind crazy

    • @iggy880
      @iggy880 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In a $1000 vlogging camera?

    • @mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112
      @mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Or even Open Gate. The Fuji XS-20 (not much more expensive) does have it.

  • @znhatgan8782
    @znhatgan8782 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    S9's fanboys below forgot the lack of hotshoe (not to mention MI connection for wireless mic), headphone jack, uncrop 60p, AA filter, all-intra format, 14bit raw photos for $500 less. And the pancake kit sony comes with has at least AF in comparison. This has at least 3 ways of stabilizing the footages before considering a cheap gimbal with the saved money(built-in digital, Gyroflow, catalyst browse).

  • @USGrant21st
    @USGrant21st 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a new 26MP sensor, and I'm still stuck with 24MP. Need to upgrade asap 😂

  • @yawningmarmot
    @yawningmarmot 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What the hell did they do to autofocus? Did they cripple it to sell the AI chip models? The original ZV-E10 and even ZV-1 would never pulse like that.
    Also, I hope the screen isn't identical to the original ZV-E10 because that one was utter garbage

  • @Diatonic5th
    @Diatonic5th 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why not just save a bit more and get the A6700? Seems like a lot of compromises here.

  • @andyandy2731
    @andyandy2731 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Vlogger camera to be great without IBIS??? What world do we live in????

    • @NadiaPink
      @NadiaPink 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi, what is IBIS?

  • @sillyopinions
    @sillyopinions 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This or Canom R8? First time buyer looking for hybrid with 80% video shoots, for youtube long format video and short bootstraped movie creations. But a single video clip duration should not be greater than 15 mins, looking for a long term option which I can ehnace with lens and toolsets later on. 99% videos will be shot indoors under controlled lightings.

  • @GungKrisna12
    @GungKrisna12 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Since Fujifilm left entry level class, and this is what happened...
    Other brands must do something and make entry level cameras great again

  • @debanjandey6799
    @debanjandey6799 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it weather sealed?

  • @KenCheng
    @KenCheng 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sony needs to replace the FF kit lens as well

    • @gamebuster800
      @gamebuster800 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Who actually uses that thing?

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      isn't 28-60mm f4-5.6 new? previous 28-70mm ff kit-lens was giant in comparison

  • @BrownieX001
    @BrownieX001 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would fuji even revive lineup for A7 ? Strange new rumour

  • @YFMMediaNetwork
    @YFMMediaNetwork 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I will stay with the Lumix S9, as my Dad Camera!

  • @ulfw
    @ulfw 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Beyond useless. Any cheap mid range old phone is better quality at better stabilisation

  • @DixonLu
    @DixonLu 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    QQQ: Someone pls explain the need of mechanical shutter in general (not this camera). Z8/9 shows they're not needed for flash.

    • @JJARCHIE
      @JJARCHIE 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Z8/z9 does 1/200 and more with their super stacked fancy sensor
      Fuji does 1/100 in their cheaper (2,5 k usd ) stacked sensor
      Non stacked sensor goes to 1/60 .
      You need 1/100 to freeze people walking , 1/1000-2000 for sports and birds. Go figure
      Incresing the SS past 1/60 only affects exposure but not how fast the sensor reads

    • @DixonLu
      @DixonLu 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JJARCHIE Thanks. I was just wondering why people are complaining that a video centric camera doesn't have a mechanical shutter, i.e., would one be doing flash photography with this camera?

    • @JJARCHIE
      @JJARCHIE 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DixonLu yep , me too

  • @bartoszp2135
    @bartoszp2135 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Waiting for Nikon Z30/Z50 II with better AF

  • @Daydream2142
    @Daydream2142 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FYI: this camera records gyroscopic data so u can stabilize your footages with gyroflow which is a free, open-sourced software

    • @lfcruzsierra
      @lfcruzsierra 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yeah, that's not always a good alternative...you need to mess with the shutter for optimal use and some apps take a while to process it.

    • @Daydream2142
      @Daydream2142 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lfcruzsierra this camera literally has no ibis unit inside theres no alternative you might as well use things that the manufacturer provided for its consumers. Also gyroflow is not some random “app” its better than sony’s own software for its gyro stabilization. If your computer can handle slog 3 then you can use gyroflow with no issue

    • @skepsys
      @skepsys 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      gyro stab (at least in catalyst) means no proper shutter speed. on 24fps u'd have to use maybe 250+ for shutter (instead of 48), which will ruin the footage (if u care for the cinematic feel).

    • @lfcruzsierra
      @lfcruzsierra 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@skepsys I can confirm. Gyro is not an acceptable alternative if you want to retain control of your image. The Sony digital stabilization is decent but why would you compromise with so much cropping instead of paying a few bucks and getting a camera with IBIS.

    • @Daydream2142
      @Daydream2142 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@skepsys that is why i mentioned gyroflow which is way better than catalyst imo. As long as theres no crazy movement u can get away with 48 shutter speed. If your shoot requires a lot of camera movement u can increase fps and shutter speed but then i wouldnt do that with this camera

  • @gkmediastudio925
    @gkmediastudio925 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This camera is 1000 dollars in the united states it is 1399 without the lens in Canada, may be better to just buy the a 6700 for the difference in price and what you get

  • @andrescarrasco1248
    @andrescarrasco1248 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's weird, it's good but bad at the same time, for video only it's amazing, but not having a mechanical shutter feels like a letdown, not sure about it Sony's cripple hammer has striken again, the first victim was a7iv with that horrible 4k 60p crop

  • @indago1
    @indago1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No IBIS in 2024? Sorry, but pass

  • @GabrielGGabGattringer
    @GabrielGGabGattringer 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tbh to my eye the ZV-E10II video looks not much better than the video my A6300 records.
    $1,500? No way, without an EVF and this crappy low res screen only.