HipsterSauce Michael has more math than Jake as far as I can recall (and I have seen) to me Jake is like the lightest of the 3 having his channel as a way for ppl to start watching also what are some of the deeper philosophical videos Kevin has ?
Hands down, this is the best episode of VSauce2 I've watched. I was so moved, I had to watch it twice. Thank you for the knowledge and the perspective.
Nelson Watson, If you liked the insights here in this video, you absolutely MUST either read Maps of Meaning by Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, or watch one of his Maps of Meaning lecture series (here on TH-cam)...It is the full disection of the role of symbols and archetypes throughout human history, and what we can learn from it all.
I`ve watched this repeatedly. Returning to it time and time again. Its not just the content, its the production, this is the style of film making that I can binge watch all day.
Far away in the twilight time Of every people, in every clime, Dragons and griffins and monsters dire, Born of water, and air, and fire, Or nursed, like the Python, in the mud And ooze of the old Deucalion flood, Crawl and wriggle and foam with rage, Through dusk tradition and ballad age. -John Greenleaf Whittier, “The Double-Headed Snake of Newbury”
Vsauce2 hello there i was so astonished a caught by the video so much so that i decided to make a thesis from the same subject. i wanted to ask if it was possible, if you read this comment, to get a copy of the script you used pretty please ? still thanks either way for the good quality videos keep it up
Thank you for this vid, sitting here with goosebumps thinking about this epic tale of humanity. Ps: isn´t it time for the east and west to work together then? Pps: what´s the new ´dragon´then? Magic? cause invisible threats in form of unknown microbiological diseases became our greatest fear in recent years...
Having said that... Is it possible that moving forward, our imaginations and fears move from snakes, carnivorous mammals and birds of pray? To an imaginary depiction of a human. Or even possibly to an imaginary depiction of a super storm. Hmmm
Pop-culture is an open book, dude. It's pandemics and aliens all the way. We fear extinction, so we tell stories of extinction. We fear psychos raping and murdering us in the night, so we -- you get the picture. That was the whole point of the video, didn't you watch it? "Dragon" is synonymous with "greatest fear", but the dragon features developed from that which we were naturally afraid of. We're smart now... and we're smart enough to fear entirely new things, and we make new dragons every year combining these all-new fears. ... or were you being facetious? :P
I've come back here 7 weeks later to thank you for introducing me to Rishloo. I honestly haven't stopped exclusively listening to them since this video.
By getting another log you could unlock simultaneous co-op / competitive mode. That was a real game changer for me because my brother used to brag to our friends that he pushed the log all by himself when we we were using just one log.
This video is not only the greatest of the vsauce family, it is easily my favourite piece of video on TH-cam hands down. Absolutely brilliant in every way. Watched it countless times. Thank you so much for this.
This also applies to any traditional power of dragons: cold-fear of freezing to death in cold environments, spirit-paranoia of others watching or approaching you
And there are many river dragons in asian mythology, and guess what looks like a serpent? Rivers! But they are more "powerfull" than snakes, so they are snake like dragons
The reluctant dragon seems like a really cool childrens story! Thats a book im going to read to my kids, although i wouldnt want them to stop fearing snakes, raptors or leopards ...
Jan Šinkovec you should read the story about a dragon(s) that everyone has in their home/mind/body, look at jordan peterson dragon story, dragons represent chaos and the unknown of life and if your life gets too comlicated you feel like there is too much chaos and the dragon could eat you which could mean some psychological or health issues, the dragon is no joke, but the question is why bother slaying the dragon - because he hoards all the gold, it means something like if you want to overcome something you need to look where you have never been because there is all the information you need, this is very brief but think about it :)
The first friendly dragon story is a negotiation between the rigid control of modern humanity and the anarchist entropy of nature brokered by the precocious innocence of adolescence. Simplified... The first story in which we friended dragons is because of humanity being friends with the uncertainty of nature, combined with the innocence of a child,
Also. I imagine if medievale people found a T-rex skull and claws that contributed to the dragon myth. I would deliver the skull to the king for a hefty reward 😅
"It sometimes seems to me that in our dragon stories we show how we look upon nature: as something to love and respect, or as something we want to rule over and destroy." - Cornelia Funke
that footage of the monkeys at 5:40 isn't from a study about videos of wild monkeys being scared of snakes shown to lab monkeys. it's actually from a study that showed when a lab monkey was confronted a scary looking moving robot, they would cling to a cloth representation of a mother figure rather than a metal wire representation to demonstrate the need for warmth/comfort
kait worden kind of like the way most people think of aliens exaggerates everything we associate with high intelligence- big ole heads for thinkin', big ole eyes for seein', little skinny arms and legs for not doin nuthin'.
10:45 _"The knight, the child, and the dragon, make peace with one another at a time when Grahame reconciled with his own inner struggle between being an artist and being a prominent member of the Establishment."_ Wow.
You forgot to realize that Aztec was hardcore, and way into blood and mutilation back then. They're like the punk rock band of mythology (alongside zoroastrianism)
The Major Yeah, changed the same way as how north American indigenous civilization changed into USA. Well, you manged to insult 3-4 billion people with that last statement. And i agree.
i'd say no, but theres a difference between a match stick and a house on fire so im not sure how i feel. i know most humans won't be because of culture/learning associated with understanding how to create fire. But i wouldnt be suprised if there was an innate fear
+Alex McCabe Maybe other primates than humans, but humans have learned to use it to their advantage. A young baby might be scared of fire at first, but it will quickly learn that as long as you don't get too close it's safe.
Alex McCabe+ Actually, the whole "fire breathing" thing was exclusive to the european dragons: they where considered the encarnation of hell and, therefore, they where associated to fire in a using-fire-from-hell-against-their-enemies sort of way. I am not entirelly sure from where i got this info, but I am quite sure it is legitimate
Cool video, I always assumed Dragons were Dinosaur fossils, especially the Chinese dragons which were basically described as meteors when landing on Earth.
I think dinosaur fossils took also a big part in developing dragons. Just like the skull of an mammoth led to the belief in cyclops. After all dragons are more the size of dinosaur than the size of snakes. The people knew snakes already, when they found the fossils this large, the must have assumed, that there has been something like a snake, with feet and so on, but much larger.
ya, I have to agree with Puma here, and there's actual living proof that this was also a major dragon conspiracy building block. For example, in medieval Warsaw (Poland), there was a legend about a mysterious cave inhabited by a dragon that killed everyone who went inside it. The myth is still told to this day, and now they know a bunch of dinosaur bones were found within it.
Also, the Chinese word for dinosaur is the same as the word for dragon. The image that westerners use for dragons began with decorated plates imported from China. Before that the word dragon simply meant any large reptile.
May we can realky think free and say we designed our pucture of dinosaurs around our established picture of dragons, finding out now dinos probably had colourful feathers. Seeing myth and preconcepted " facts" really neutral.
paw101 There's a thing called a typo, which is where someone makes a mistake... Ever heard of one? This isn't a special professional place where we are required to proofread our comments. Don't think your so smart because someone's finger slips.
Well to be fair talking badly of education is quite ignorant, I don't think there is anything we should be more grateful for than having the privilege to go to school.
The ones taking this comment seriously are the ones that must be fun at parties. *(and the ones who didn't get the sarcasm of fun, are the ones without a life)*
i have been dreaming about snakes ever since i was in highschool (im 26 now). at the end of every dream, the snake always bite me and i jumped awake with my heart beating fast. but there was 2 very peculiar dreams that i had. one is where i take a green snake on a date, take her on a park where she could see her natural habitat so that she could be happy. and the other, i ascend onto the clouds, there i met a chinese snake dragon and then he said "you are the chosen one"
I'd say it's just the other side of the same coin. Ancient creatures greater than us, ruling over us in a way... Fear and respect aren't too far from each other. Looking at greek deities for example, a lot (if not all) of them are related to some disastrous natural fenomenon. I might be totally wrong though, it's just my two cents on the matter.
Perhaps it's related to the idea (a very old one) that the solution to problems, the wisdom one seeks, is found in the very thing that frightens you most.
you know thinking about it, the one time a snake snuck up on me and scared me. I was already 5 feet in the air before i even realized what was going on lmao. I don't think i ever reacted to anything so fast.
Didn't eastern lore have benevolent dragons for much longer than western? It seems a fair sized gap to leave out discussion of eastern dragons and their import.
In Eastern cultures, those dragon's were wise and ancient, and so respected as God's before they could form any other belief, whereas in Western Europe (and the Western world), most people already believed in another God, so thinking of these supposedly intelligent, powerful, and incredibly violent creatures, they were almost unthinkable blasphemous to the people who heard their stories, so they became associated as demons (or demonic creatures of some sort) because their idea went against a lot of what the Bible and other faiths displayed as true godliness. Simply put, because they worshipped God first, they saw dragons as a defiance, a rival, to God's benevolence and power, so their similarities (of benevolence and nature shown in Eastern faith) was left out, and then highlighted what dragons had that God DIDN'T have (being sterility, anger, and incredible violence towards some) Dragons were displayed as demonic and evil in Western culture, because the very idea of them was seen as an imitation or mockery of a faith they already knew and followed
egyptian and greek mythologies never really had any dragons to peak of to my knowledge. unless you want to count the hydra as a dragon. dragons in the medieval times are actually A LOT older of a concept than people give them credit for, and i base this on the old legend of beowulf which is written in old-english (like, the old-english that doesn't even look like english), and since his journey ends with him being roast by a dragon guarding a hoard of treasure; it's not too much of a stretch to say that the old western euopean perceptions of dragons have very nearly always been "they are avatars of evil, greed and destruction." and likely became associated with the devil when christianity became the ruling cultural influence. tales of dragons existed on the continent long before tales of the devil and it's no surprise that many artistic renditions of the devil often depict him as a dragon.
Is it that we have overcome dragons, made peace with them, or simply been deceived into believing that either or both of these ends have been or can be achieved? Props for the Chesterton quote at the end. Dude is severely underappreciated in this day and age.
I liked the metaphor you hid in this video. We have evolved to a point where we aren't the knights anymore, we aren't the children of this planet. We are the Dragons, the villians that blight this Earth, spreading fire and famine.
We may not be consciously evil, but the actions of humans sure make us look evil. It's no wonder almost all wild animals get scared and run away when they hear or see a human. We are a powerful and destructive species, which has control over all the other species. We are causing extinction without actually wanting to; could you imagine how quickly a species would become extinct if we actively tried to kill them off?
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I had a book as a child with every reference picture you had in this video . It was a purple old musty book with the pictures and legends of all kinds of dragons from all over the world.I was just never able to remember the name of it. I loved that book as a kid and I would give anything to have it again. I can honestly say it was the book that turned me into a reader. I remember wanting to know what the words about the dragons meant.
BonziBUDDY I was like you buddy, i liked paarthurnax too, but you probably should tho. he helped alduin enslave humanity for many years until a god had to intervene. Stendar(?) get paarthurnax to stop and stuff. Even paarthurnax himself says that he feels the urges to go back to his old ways of ruling skyrim.
you can't help it though, dragons will always feel superior when compared to other kins, unless confronted with shouts, then, they recognize it is a dragonborn, and they feel the danger.
He didn't say "go back to his old ways", he wants to spread "the way of the voice". A peaceful but strict (odahving says tyrannical) philosophy to other dragons specifically. You could argue he wants to be the next "dragon king" or whatever but he's not interested in enslaving and destroying the races of Tamriel. Also I think it was Kynareth who gave Nords the voice not Stendarr. Shor (Lorkhan) also fought Alduin to save the Nords like way after that too
Correct me if I'm wrong but there is only a few channels that can compete with the quality of information and work all the three of Vsauce channels provide. My list with no preference in the order are: Vsauce, Veritasium, SmarterEveryday, MinutePhysics, MinuteEarth, ASAPScience, Kurtzgesagt. Well yeah best channels ever
That narration gave me chills. Masterfully done video. I love hearing of the explanation of lore, and this really was an interesting theory. I wonder what the deal is with the griffin then? By the sound of it, it's basically a dragon that lost its snake-ness for some reason.
"to get to our imagination's ultimate predator, we have to start with the first persistent predator of our evolution. Molecular Pylogeneticists.." That was a fantastic joke XD
Self-crowned Royalty It was an accidental joke because he didn't leave a long enough pause between "...of our evolution." and "Molecular Pylogeneticists..." so it sounded like the Molecular Pylogeneticist were our first persistent predator of our evolution :Ü™
Couldn´t agree more. I found Rishloo a few years back in a quest to find bands similar to Tool. Their music has ¨epic¨ stamped all over it. Kind of an Iron Maiden/Dream Theater mashup.
"The dragon story is a negotiation between the rigid control of modern humanity and the anarchist entropy of nature, brokered by the precocious innocence of adolescence." Wish I could articulate my words this eloquently.
I think it's more likely that modern man was not the only one to stumble upon a dinosaur head or graveyard. They stories of dragons is about what I'd expect from people finding them all over the earth. Also the natural fear of snakes and mistaking dinosaurs as serpents. They would have rarely found one with a body. The bones would be enough evidence to them that someone had slain one.
Google 'Y ddraig aur' the rampant gold dragon is an ancient Welsh image worn by Owain Glyndwr.. which is similar to the shield and armour youu're wearing
I don't see why all the different types of "dragons" are even lumped together under one name in english, they don't share any traits in common other than being serpentine. Some have limbs, some don't, some can fly, some don't, some are evil, some are good, some are intelligent, some are beasts, some cast magic, some eat people, some protect them. The similarities between them are superficial, same with the similarities between the phoenix and the fenghuang, or the unicorn and the qirin. They really should just be considered separate things and not lumped together.
There is some difference, a two legged dragon with wings is traditionally called a wyvren, and a dragon with only two legs is usually called a lindworm
Push the Heavy Log was my childhood!. Now all you kids play, is that Minecraft and five nights at whatever games. Man if only you kids knew the good old days of gaming.
Terran Loyalist It's both actually. Remember Japan had isolated themselves and even before they finally opened their world they feared snakes in stories or what they call as yokai. They have so many demons based on real life that it's impressive how well they've come far. Or im wrong and it's because of having boats and people trading stories with each other.
I'm not saying they haven't been thought of independantly. I'm saying that the reason stories ofdragon-like monsters "catch on" is because of the instincts. This video makes it out to be that everyone just thinks it up because of the instincts.
Terran Loyalist Yeah. Your right. Though snakes are still highly dangerous. Just the fact that there are multiple sub species that can climb, swim, crush you, inject you with venom, and even eat you whole. And they can be anywhere(warm enough) without a sound.
Wow, great job Kevin. One of my favorite VSauce videos, all three channels confounded. I don't know if it's just me, but when you mentioned the choice we face, it made me imagine a certain country that was once a child, then became a knight, but then turned into a dragon...
Don't knock push that log till you try it. Its awesome! Humanity evolved pushing the log. I think the repetitiveness and the bees (Boss) were the inspiration for making the primitive video games so damn hard.
3000 B.C.- We must respect the dragon! 1000 A.D.- We must kill the dragon! 1300 A.D.- We must thank the dragon! 1600 A.D.- We must observe the dragon! 1800 A.D.- We must befriend the dragon! 2017 A.D.- We must lewd the dragon! (Lucoa is best waifu!)
There are areas of China and Mongolia where dinosaur bones are all over the landscape. People built houses out of them. Naturally, people would make stories about the rigin of these giant bones. This is I believe where dragons came from. Oriental dragons since time immemorial were believed to be good creatures, mighty forces of nature that bring good fortune. Western dragons were seen as evil, but if that were always true one wonders why there are so many dragons in ancient Celtic and Nordic imagery, particularly in the Lindisfarne Gospels. The fear or healthy respect of snakes is universal and obvious, there are poisonous snakes on all 5 continents. But I see a great need to distinguish dragons from snakes, mythical or otherwise. For example, Quetzalcoatl is not a dragon, it's a feathered snake. "The Flight of Dragons" by Peter Dickinson is one of my favorite books, even if everything there is nonsense.
This doesn't explain how other regions thought up dragons independently and without contact. Many Chinese and Japanese dragons could also be described as simply feathered snakes, not all had arms or legs.
Funny, I was working in the garden yesterday and suddenly my female Savannah Cat sitting 20 feet behind me in the window starts howling a very loud and insistent howl and I process this and remember it means she has seen a snake. I look carefully around me, no snake, so I go up to her sitting in the window, she looks up at me and I ask her: "Where is the Snake?". She look past me down into the garden and I carefully follow her eyes, no snake. I walk back to the spot in the garden she is staring at, where is the damned snake, I know she sees it but I don't. I grab a stick and start poking around and suddenly there is movement and I finally see it, it was less than 2 feet away right in front of me the whole time! But my cat saw it minutes ago from 20 feet away. Had the screen not been there she would have killed it long before I ever saw it. Columbus and Howler Monkeys are deathly scared of the Fer de Lance. Jaguars consider all 3 an easy meal.
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Humanity: "I have had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking planet!"
Master Therion 😂
Master Therion you are everywhere! oh hello btw!
Prerna Gaikwad Hello! ^_^ I hope you are having a great day.
Snakes.... why did it have to be snakes?
Master Therion here! here!
I like how the Vsaucers are catagorized
Micheal is fact and physics
Kevin is history and philosophy
Jake is math and gaming
I didn't notice that, and I was wondering why I don't like VSauce2 as much as others... lol
HipsterSauce Michael has more math than Jake as far as I can recall (and I have seen)
to me Jake is like the lightest of the 3 having his channel as a way for ppl to start watching
also what are some of the deeper philosophical videos Kevin has ?
Jake is modern culture
Then Jake is the overview and theory dude
Michael has made history and philosophy videos in the past, but Kevin is more oriented to human mind and our thinking. That is at least what I think.
Hands down, this is the best episode of VSauce2 I've watched. I was so moved, I had to watch it twice. Thank you for the knowledge and the perspective.
Nelson Watson, If you liked the insights here in this video, you absolutely MUST either read Maps of Meaning by Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, or watch one of his Maps of Meaning lecture series (here on TH-cam)...It is the full disection of the role of symbols and archetypes throughout human history, and what we can learn from it all.
I`ve watched this repeatedly. Returning to it time and time again. Its not just the content, its the production, this is the style of film making that I can binge watch all day.
This is my fifth time watching this.. It never gets old 💔
Twice? TWICE? YOU DON'T COME BACK EVERY FEW WEEKS TO WATCH IT AGAIN AND BE AMAZED?
YES.
Far away in the twilight time
Of every people, in every clime,
Dragons and griffins and monsters dire,
Born of water, and air, and fire,
Or nursed, like the Python, in the mud
And ooze of the old Deucalion flood,
Crawl and wriggle and foam with rage,
Through dusk tradition and ballad age.
-John Greenleaf Whittier, “The Double-Headed Snake of Newbury”
Vsauce2 hello there i was so astonished a caught by the video so much so that i decided to make a thesis from the same subject.
i wanted to ask if it was possible, if you read this comment, to get a copy of the script you used pretty please ? still thanks either way for the good quality videos keep it up
Thank you for this vid, sitting here with goosebumps thinking about this epic tale of humanity.
Ps: isn´t it time for the east and west to work together then?
Pps: what´s the new ´dragon´then? Magic? cause invisible threats in form of unknown microbiological diseases became our greatest fear in recent years...
Having said that... Is it possible that moving forward, our imaginations and fears move from snakes, carnivorous mammals and birds of pray? To an imaginary depiction of a human. Or even possibly to an imaginary depiction of a super storm. Hmmm
Pop-culture is an open book, dude. It's pandemics and aliens all the way. We fear extinction, so we tell stories of extinction. We fear psychos raping and murdering us in the night, so we -- you get the picture. That was the whole point of the video, didn't you watch it? "Dragon" is synonymous with "greatest fear", but the dragon features developed from that which we were naturally afraid of. We're smart now... and we're smart enough to fear entirely new things, and we make new dragons every year combining these all-new fears.
... or were you being facetious? :P
Vsauce2 Hey, thanks for having me on the show!
Kevin is probably the best of the Vsaucers...he's so weird and cool!
Yea but Michael used to be better :/
Deebo Molina They are all awesome.
Kickex Silver I can relate with Kevin out of the three...
Deebo Molina
unfortunately you are incorrect
MichealFever
Deebo Molina I like Michael
I've come back here 7 weeks later to thank you for introducing me to Rishloo. I honestly haven't stopped exclusively listening to them since this video.
I bet "push the log" had DLC.
Somos Numero Uno And crazy pink camos
By getting another log you could unlock simultaneous co-op / competitive mode. That was a real game changer for me because my brother used to brag to our friends that he pushed the log all by himself when we we were using just one log.
The 'First Stick' DLC was really something...
Somos Numero Uno, it did, my great grandad has the birch and oak wood DLC,
Ubisoft and EA should offer you a job.
Why play a PS4, when you can play push the heavy log!
James Burgess somebody should make a virtual reality game "push the heavy log" in ps4
Log-Pushing Simulator 2018
Reminds me of an old ren and stimpy sketch
What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs, and over your neighbor's dog? What's great for a snack, And fits on your back? It's log, log, log...
>we've gone from being afraid of dragons to wanting them as anime waifus
thanks Internet
Maybe you want to look up r/dragonsfuckingcars :Ü™
Caulron your welcome
This so much this, I actually found this video via a hentai site haha
Wind of change Why even bother anymore
Blame neumman
Also, cats jump instantly when they look at a cucumber, because snakes
No, because cucumbers.
Which look like snakes causing the reflex to jump
I threw a cucumber at my cats....they didn't do anything.
your cat is at the button of the evolutionary pyramid then, if we still had natural selection he'd be a gonner!
gilzineto guess they don't give af.
"Phalus means wiener"
This is the type of fact I come here to learn!
I thought it was spelled "phallace" huh you learn a new thing every day
@@zanderhenriksen6776 It's spelt phallus.
Not fact, false hypothesis.
@Brian Lingden en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/phallus
en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/phallus
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/phallus
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phallus
www.etymonline.com/word/phallus
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=phallus
So it's really a trouser snake.
Or one eyed snake.
This video is not only the greatest of the vsauce family, it is easily my favourite piece of video on TH-cam hands down. Absolutely brilliant in every way. Watched it countless times.
Thank you so much for this.
Another element of dragons: we see fire as a destructive force and so what else to give our amalgamation of all fear?
This also applies to any traditional power of dragons: cold-fear of freezing to death in cold environments, spirit-paranoia of others watching or approaching you
And there are many river dragons in asian mythology, and guess what looks like a serpent? Rivers! But they are more "powerfull" than snakes, so they are snake like dragons
Fire hasn't been associated with dragons for very long
"The reluctant Dragon" sounds an awful lot similar to the basic premise of "How to Train your Dragon". Hmmm...
The film, not the books.
Cool.
The books are a million and one items better, btw.
Ekvitarius The movies are more up my alley but I do love the books as well tbh
The reluctant dragon seems like a really cool childrens story! Thats a book im going to read to my kids, although i wouldnt want them to stop fearing snakes, raptors or leopards ...
Jan Šinkovec you should read the story about a dragon(s) that everyone has in their home/mind/body, look at jordan peterson dragon story, dragons represent chaos and the unknown of life and if your life gets too comlicated you feel like there is too much chaos and the dragon could eat you which could mean some psychological or health issues, the dragon is no joke, but the question is why bother slaying the dragon - because he hoards all the gold, it means something like if you want to overcome something you need to look where you have never been because there is all the information you need, this is very brief but think about it :)
11:00-11:12... What a sentence! That was written so eloquently. Bravo!
I even skipped back and re-played...
FreeFlamingInfinite same
The first friendly dragon story is a negotiation between the rigid control of modern humanity and the anarchist entropy of nature brokered by the precocious innocence of adolescence.
Simplified...
The first story in which we friended dragons is because of humanity being friends with the uncertainty of nature, combined with the innocence of a child,
You forgot to say the most undisputed scientific fact that DRAGONS ARE AWESOME!
Paul A. Velcea I totally agree!
Paul A. Velcea incorrect
@@dzaesonp8599 no u
You are right
Also. I imagine if medievale people found a T-rex skull and claws that contributed to the dragon myth. I would deliver the skull to the king for a hefty reward 😅
11:30 I get sad when I hear the music cuz it means the show is almost over =[
what song is it at 12:30 though?
"Just a ride" from rishloo
ok forget it. i have called the wrong song xD
I found it for anyone who is interested, it's Airwaves by Mark Denis and Kyle Newmaster
No, you were right. Definitely Rishloo.
12:57 No, I am the Dovakihn, The Dragonborn....
All three combined
Hi
Abyaz Karim Dragonporn
FUSRO DA
"It sometimes seems to me that in our dragon stories we show how we look upon nature: as something to love and respect, or as something we want to rule over and destroy."
- Cornelia Funke
that footage of the monkeys at 5:40 isn't from a study about videos of wild monkeys being scared of snakes shown to lab monkeys. it's actually from a study that showed when a lab monkey was confronted a scary looking moving robot, they would cling to a cloth representation of a mother figure rather than a metal wire representation to demonstrate the need for warmth/comfort
So... Humans unknowingly created a mythical creature based on instinct? Nice
kait worden sounds like a god
I wonder if aliens also made up the idea of Dragons then...
kait worden kind of like the way most people think of aliens exaggerates everything we associate with high intelligence- big ole heads for thinkin', big ole eyes for seein', little skinny arms and legs for not doin nuthin'.
No, dragons were not created by humans
by whom?
10:45 _"The knight, the child, and the dragon, make peace with one another at a time when Grahame reconciled with his own inner struggle between being an artist and being a prominent member of the Establishment."_
Wow.
"Quetzalcoatl was the god of wisdom and life" **IS EATING A PERSON ALIVE**
Onderod Without Death, Life as it is could not exist.
You forgot to realize that Aztec was hardcore, and way into blood and mutilation back then. They're like the punk rock band of mythology (alongside zoroastrianism)
Heh, where was Quetzalcoatl when the Spaniards deleted their civilization?
The Major Yeah, changed the same way as how north American indigenous civilization changed into USA. Well, you manged to insult 3-4 billion people with that last statement. And i agree.
Same place as God, the Plane of Nonexistence.
You can also add the fire breathing aspect. Every mammal has an innate fear to fire right?
Do you have a fear of fire?
i'd say no, but theres a difference between a match stick and a house on fire so im not sure how i feel. i know most humans won't be because of culture/learning associated with understanding how to create fire. But i wouldnt be suprised if there was an innate fear
+Alex McCabe Maybe other primates than humans, but humans have learned to use it to their advantage.
A young baby might be scared of fire at first, but it will quickly learn that as long as you don't get too close it's safe.
Alex McCabe+ Actually, the whole "fire breathing" thing was exclusive to the european dragons: they where considered the encarnation of hell and, therefore, they where associated to fire in a using-fire-from-hell-against-their-enemies sort of way.
I am not entirelly sure from where i got this info, but I am quite sure it is legitimate
Alex McCabe quitzicoatl was known as a serpent who flooded the world by spewing water from its mouth, Mayans had like the reverse idea of a dragon
Cool video, I always assumed Dragons were Dinosaur fossils, especially the Chinese dragons which were basically described as meteors when landing on Earth.
I think dinosaur fossils took also a big part in developing dragons. Just like the skull of an mammoth led to the belief in cyclops. After all dragons are more the size of dinosaur than the size of snakes. The people knew snakes already, when they found the fossils this large, the must have assumed, that there has been something like a snake, with feet and so on, but much larger.
ya, I have to agree with Puma here, and there's actual living proof that this was also a major dragon conspiracy building block. For example, in medieval Warsaw (Poland), there was a legend about a mysterious cave inhabited by a dragon that killed everyone who went inside it. The myth is still told to this day, and now they know a bunch of dinosaur bones were found within it.
Also, the Chinese word for dinosaur is the same as the word for dragon. The image that westerners use for dragons began with decorated plates imported from China. Before that the word dragon simply meant any large reptile.
May we can realky think free and say we designed our pucture of dinosaurs around our established picture of dragons, finding out now dinos probably had colourful feathers. Seeing myth and preconcepted " facts" really neutral.
Vsauce uploaded so let me stop everything I'm doing and learn more in a 14 minuet video then I did in a 6-7 hour day of school
How's that spelling going for you? Maybe school should be prioritised a little more.
paw101 There's a thing called a typo, which is where someone makes a mistake... Ever heard of one? This isn't a special professional place where we are required to proofread our comments. Don't think your so smart because someone's finger slips.
Well to be fair talking badly of education is quite ignorant, I don't think there is anything we should be more grateful for than having the privilege to go to school.
Tell me again how knowledge from this video will help you achieve a relevant job?
The ones taking this comment seriously are the ones that must be fun at parties.
*(and the ones who didn't get the sarcasm of fun, are the ones without a life)*
i have been dreaming about snakes ever since i was in highschool (im 26 now). at the end of every dream, the snake always bite me and i jumped awake with my heart beating fast. but there was 2 very peculiar dreams that i had. one is where i take a green snake on a date, take her on a park where she could see her natural habitat so that she could be happy. and the other, i ascend onto the clouds, there i met a chinese snake dragon and then he said "you are the chosen one"
Archontasius well start unlocking ur dreamscape my friend
Archontasius it's simple, you must defeat the dragon
Archontasius you've been drinking more then the recommended amount of cough syrup haven't you
MrPancake
dovahkiin dovahkiin naal ok zin los vahriin
who's your drug dealer, I'd like to meet him please
but.. in eastern philosophies dragons are wise and humble god like beings, not seen as ruthless killers as primal, fear based instinct would expect
I'd say it's just the other side of the same coin.
Ancient creatures greater than us, ruling over us in a way...
Fear and respect aren't too far from each other.
Looking at greek deities for example, a lot (if not all) of them are related to some disastrous natural fenomenon.
I might be totally wrong though, it's just my two cents on the matter.
Gods are just the monsters that control us
Perhaps it's related to the idea (a very old one) that the solution to problems, the wisdom one seeks, is found in the very thing that frightens you most.
I just realized how amazing it is, that i can understand every single word and context of your video. English is not my mother tongue.
XWurstbrotX Same. Du kommst aus Deutschland, oder?
Nein, mein Name ist Isländlisch und heißt OFFENSICHTLICH :D
Wow, you guys used a Rishloo song, such a great band!
really caught me off guard.. i thought my spotify unpaused as i was playing rishloo right before watching. one of my favorite bands
I've finally found you people in these comments!
Always gotta find those Rishloo friends
We're all in the facebook group lol
Merlijn Toby
I thought so too, it took me awhile to realize it's coming from the video itself lmao
RISHLOO YESS!!!!!
you know thinking about it, the one time a snake snuck up on me and scared me. I was already 5 feet in the air before i even realized what was going on lmao. I don't think i ever reacted to anything so fast.
Oh my god!! I used to have that plastic harness, sword and shield when i was younger!
Metashrew same
Metashrew I have it now and larp every sunday like a god damn knight!
All of my swords have broken and the armors never fit me :( I don't think I used the shield too often.
Metashrew omg me too!
Me too! 27 years ago! :D
Checking out the awesome dragon video for the millionth time again in 2020. I wish Kevin would do more of these kinds of videos.
*Sees intro*
Yeah, um. OK.
+Cyber
You weren't subbed before?
umm.... yeah... unique for Vsauce2 at least..
Sees your profile picture.
Yeah um okay this kid hasn't passed 5th grade
Mac edgy teen 😂
That's what I was kinda like. Now I got a better understanding of dragons and how people sense danger.
Didn't eastern lore have benevolent dragons for much longer than western? It seems a fair sized gap to leave out discussion of eastern dragons and their import.
Same thing I was thinking. The benevolent Sky and Water dragons of the East almost undermines this whole idea.
In Eastern cultures, those dragon's were wise and ancient, and so respected as God's before they could form any other belief, whereas in Western Europe (and the Western world), most people already believed in another God, so thinking of these supposedly intelligent, powerful, and incredibly violent creatures, they were almost unthinkable blasphemous to the people who heard their stories, so they became associated as demons (or demonic creatures of some sort) because their idea went against a lot of what the Bible and other faiths displayed as true godliness.
Simply put, because they worshipped God first, they saw dragons as a defiance, a rival, to God's benevolence and power, so their similarities (of benevolence and nature shown in Eastern faith) was left out, and then highlighted what dragons had that God DIDN'T have (being sterility, anger, and incredible violence towards some)
Dragons were displayed as demonic and evil in Western culture, because the very idea of them was seen as an imitation or mockery of a faith they already knew and followed
Sorry it's a bit long, but it's just how I can see the change in description from Easter to Western dragons
Morgan Strydom quality reply
egyptian and greek mythologies never really had any dragons to peak of to my knowledge. unless you want to count the hydra as a dragon. dragons in the medieval times are actually A LOT older of a concept than people give them credit for, and i base this on the old legend of beowulf which is written in old-english (like, the old-english that doesn't even look like english), and since his journey ends with him being roast by a dragon guarding a hoard of treasure; it's not too much of a stretch to say that the old western euopean perceptions of dragons have very nearly always been "they are avatars of evil, greed and destruction." and likely became associated with the devil when christianity became the ruling cultural influence. tales of dragons existed on the continent long before tales of the devil and it's no surprise that many artistic renditions of the devil often depict him as a dragon.
Is it that we have overcome dragons, made peace with them, or simply been deceived into believing that either or both of these ends have been or can be achieved?
Props for the Chesterton quote at the end. Dude is severely underappreciated in this day and age.
i love evolution, its so cool
no, evolution is Cruel , technology is what cool.
Trip Ts you just gave my Aids cancer
Ben .-. There is no evolution Christ created us all
I'm kidding btw
Matheus Eduardo thats how the state of kansas would put it
Ben .-. .... and fake
I liked the metaphor you hid in this video. We have evolved to a point where we aren't the knights anymore, we aren't the children of this planet. We are the Dragons, the villians that blight this Earth, spreading fire and famine.
What kinda drugs has one gotta take to be like this?
Well as the video shows, being a dragon does not necessarily make you evil it simply grants you the power to bring order.
We may not be consciously evil, but the actions of humans sure make us look evil. It's no wonder almost all wild animals get scared and run away when they hear or see a human. We are a powerful and destructive species, which has control over all the other species. We are causing extinction without actually wanting to; could you imagine how quickly a species would become extinct if we actively tried to kill them off?
i.imgur.com/Sfx59Ib.jpg
Not really. As mentioned in this video, The Reluctant Dragon was one of the first popular stories that said Dragons aren't inherently evil.
I'm impressed. What a nice way to learn, a huge amount of territory compressed into one video.
Would reptilian conspiracies also be an example?
Ancient Astronaut Theorists Say Yes
We're Asian emperor's 'descended from dragons' the first lizard alien ruler myth?
Maybe
Who the hell needs Smash Bros, when you can PUSH A LOG!?
YEAH!
let's push a log!
It rolls downstairs and over your neighbors dog!
I would do both!!! (^W^)
did someone say smash bros
oh well i guess we know who here plays corrin and/or charizard
♪ What rolls down stairs
alone or in pairs,
and over your neighbor's dog?
What's great for a snack,
And fits on your back?
It's Log™, Log™, Log™ ♪
♪ It's Log™, it's Log™
It's big, it's heavy, it's wood!
It's Log™, it's Log™, it's better than bad, it's good! ♪
♪ Everyone wants a Log™
You're gonna love it, Log™
Come on and get your Log™
Everyone needs a Log™
Log™, Log™, Log™ ♪
In the Age of Ancients the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. But then there was Fire...
TheRolfai I really love that series.... bummer that it has ended
What series is that? Age of Fire?
Dark Souls.
.....with fire came disparity.
But everything changed when the fire nation attacked.
I had a book as a child with every reference picture you had in this video . It was a purple old musty book with the pictures and legends of all kinds of dragons from all over the world.I was just never able to remember the name of it. I loved that book as a kid and I would give anything to have it again. I can honestly say it was the book that turned me into a reader. I remember wanting to know what the words about the dragons meant.
I will never kill Paarthurnax
BonziBUDDY I was like you buddy, i liked paarthurnax too, but you probably should tho. he helped alduin enslave humanity for many years until a god had to intervene. Stendar(?) get paarthurnax to stop and stuff. Even paarthurnax himself says that he feels the urges to go back to his old ways of ruling skyrim.
you can't help it though, dragons will always feel superior when compared to other kins, unless confronted with shouts, then, they recognize it is a dragonborn, and they feel the danger.
HHH You killed me XD
isn't he good tho?
He didn't say "go back to his old ways", he wants to spread "the way of the voice". A peaceful but strict (odahving says tyrannical) philosophy to other dragons specifically. You could argue he wants to be the next "dragon king" or whatever but he's not interested in enslaving and destroying the races of Tamriel. Also I think it was Kynareth who gave Nords the voice not Stendarr. Shor (Lorkhan) also fought Alduin to save the Nords like way after that too
If I decide to be the dragon, does that mean I can be Paarthurnax?
I like Paarthurnax.
Stop, skyrim, stop
Dibs on Odahviing!
Can I has Alduin then?
Can I be Durnehviir?
I has Vulthuryol then.
Can't believe that this video sat in my "watch later" playlist for years. So glad that I finally got around to it.
"Phallus means weiner" should be on a T-Shirt or something, because that really got to me.
shows how complex my sense of humor is
should have "snake shaped phallus" at the front, and "phallus means wiener" at the back
Yes, because your sense of humor is so much better than everyone else's.
R/iamverysmart
r/whoooosh
How tf do you not see that the 'complex sense of humor' comment is a joke
Holy shit! Rishloo on a vsauce video!
I was so confused when I heard it, it took me awhile to realize it's actually in the video
Hey what is the name of that Rishloo song?
Rishloo - Just a ride
@@yair3230HD שלום לך.
I don't know why this hit me so hard, but it did. Especially after getting here from listening to RISHLOO. Thank you for everything.
Correct me if I'm wrong but there is only a few channels that can compete with the quality of information and work all the three of Vsauce channels provide. My list with no preference in the order are: Vsauce, Veritasium, SmarterEveryday, MinutePhysics, MinuteEarth, ASAPScience, Kurtzgesagt. Well yeah best channels ever
You should look at the PBS channels like PBS Spacetime.
totally
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CGP Grey?
Check out Sharkee.
Also Engineering Guy, Nerdwriter, Real Engineering
I'd add SciShow and SciShow space to that list too, usually a daily watch for me.
That narration gave me chills. Masterfully done video. I love hearing of the explanation of lore, and this really was an interesting theory.
I wonder what the deal is with the griffin then? By the sound of it, it's basically a dragon that lost its snake-ness for some reason.
loved hearing rishloo at the end
"to get to our imagination's ultimate predator, we have to start with the first persistent predator of our evolution. Molecular Pylogeneticists.."
That was a fantastic joke XD
Your Crush please explain the joke to me.
Self-crowned Royalty It was an accidental joke because he didn't leave a long enough pause between "...of our evolution." and "Molecular Pylogeneticists..." so it sounded like the Molecular Pylogeneticist were our first persistent predator of our evolution :Ü™
As far as I'm concerned, the first persistent predator of our evolution was the liberal
Henz Sol
Except evolution requires change, and Leftists are the ones who promote change.
@@henzsol6771 The first persistent predator of our evolution was the people who can't accept others' beliefs and bring politics into everything
The reluctant dragon was made into a Disney film in the 40s, it was great if I remember correctly (though this was back in vhs days)
Harry Manocha what is a vhs?
P. sure the 40s was before vhs
VHS wasnt used until 30 years after that.
OMG, I now remember that cartoon! I couldn't remember the name and I had no idea it was based of a book until this video.
Harry Manocha it also sounds like How to train your dragon
Quetzalcoatl is THICC
Agree
There is one they fear.
Fus Roh DAH!!!!!
The legend27
falsehero2001 in their tung he's called Dovakhiin
Dragonforce.
There is one leaf here.
The outro music sounds like Danny Sexbang if he did a solo rock album
The band are called Rishloo, and they rule. Drew is a crazy talented singer.
I highly recommend you dive in and listen to literally everything Rishloo has ever done. It's all fantastic.
PlayMoGame the outro music sounds like a band called rishloo and the singer sounds like a guy named drew. oh wait!
Couldn´t agree more. I found Rishloo a few years back in a quest to find bands similar to Tool. Their music has ¨epic¨ stamped all over it. Kind of an Iron Maiden/Dream Theater mashup.
Same!
There's another one I found when I went on that same quest.
It's called Soen. Check it out :)
Why is no one talking about the beautiful piece of artistry that is rishloo's just a ride?
...And so,Trogdor was created.
the single greatest threat to humanity
I wonder what kid of DLC "Push the Heavy Log had"
Red Knight
Alternate endings, different kinds of wood, and an _up a hill_ mode.
Hannibus 42 There was also a "roll through animal poo" mode
Sharkseatfish1
Of course! How could I forget!?
Push the light log
Travis Dickens
Pfft! Easy mode is for babies!
"The dragon story is a negotiation between the rigid control of modern humanity and the anarchist entropy of nature, brokered by the precocious innocence of adolescence." Wish I could articulate my words this eloquently.
I think it's more likely that modern man was not the only one to stumble upon a dinosaur head or graveyard. They stories of dragons is about what I'd expect from people finding them all over the earth. Also the natural fear of snakes and mistaking dinosaurs as serpents. They would have rarely found one with a body. The bones would be enough evidence to them that someone had slain one.
Google 'Y ddraig aur' the rampant gold dragon is an ancient Welsh image worn by Owain Glyndwr.. which is similar to the shield and armour youu're wearing
great episode man!!
Daily dose of educational sauce
11:00 that was a hell of a sentience
This is my new favorite video on the entire platform...
I don't see why all the different types of "dragons" are even lumped together under one name in english, they don't share any traits in common other than being serpentine. Some have limbs, some don't, some can fly, some don't, some are evil, some are good, some are intelligent, some are beasts, some cast magic, some eat people, some protect them. The similarities between them are superficial, same with the similarities between the phoenix and the fenghuang, or the unicorn and the qirin. They really should just be considered separate things and not lumped together.
Doesn't the word "dragon" actually come from the Greek and means "giant snake" or something?
Dragon is also related to the word Draken meaning Swedish for Dragon.
replace dragon with human and you have your answer.
RS it's true though.
There is some difference, a two legged dragon with wings is traditionally called a wyvren, and a dragon with only two legs is usually called a lindworm
Just my guess before even watching, is this about evolution?
Well, I see I was like 90% wrong.
But omg, that video was amazing! Nice job, Vsauce never fails..
No you were right, it's completely about evolution!
Fandyus CZ Z
Not physical evolution, but yes evolution in a way.
Loved the video, but the outro song took my breath.
Thanks for sharing this astonishing song.
Man that intro really intrigued me to keep watching!
9:23 WOOHOO that's my great grandpa he's talking about!
LOL
Brad Saint George yee
You shouldve inherited his mustache!
Brad Saint George cool!😃
Please more videos like these
Thanks for that song in the outro. I discovered a kickass prog band.
Dmitry Pshenichny Do u know the Namur of the group ? pls
Pierre-Louis Comte the band is Rishloo, it says at the very end. The specific song is "Just a Ride" but listen to their entire discography anyway
DOOOO IIIIIIT
Rishloo is one of the best bands around, so dope
Prog is life.
Prog is everything.
Im supposed to be playing push the heavy log but this one player keeps kicking my ass
You should have said '...but this one hill keeps kicking my arse'
LMAO
Is it the logger27
Umm, spoiler alert on The Reluctant Dragon 😂
Yow were late :'(
Push the Heavy Log was my childhood!. Now all you kids play, is that Minecraft and five nights at whatever games. Man if only you kids knew the good old days of gaming.
XenesiZ do you remember any of the rare pets from push the heavy log? I found a caterpillar pet on that game! Now if only I could find my save file...
DinoBub 7777 there is none.
Woah! Great video! That's really awesome!
It's memetics.
Dragons are instinctively compelling, and therefore spread more than other fictional monsters. This is why they're so common.
Terran Loyalist It's both actually. Remember Japan had isolated themselves and even before they finally opened their world they feared snakes in stories or what they call as yokai. They have so many demons based on real life that it's impressive how well they've come far.
Or im wrong and it's because of having boats and people trading stories with each other.
I'm not saying they haven't been thought of independantly. I'm saying that the reason stories ofdragon-like monsters "catch on" is because of the instincts. This video makes it out to be that everyone just thinks it up because of the instincts.
Terran Loyalist Yeah. Your right. Though snakes are still highly dangerous. Just the fact that there are multiple sub species that can climb, swim, crush you, inject you with venom, and even eat you whole. And they can be anywhere(warm enough) without a sound.
THE COOLEST THUMBNAIL I'VE SEEN IN A WHILE!
Love it
I sexually identify as a Dragon...
That's racist
Thomas -W How?
+Thomas -W *TRIGGERED*
+Ricky D
That's not how it works.
He forgot to address him by his correct pronouns..
Wow, great job Kevin. One of my favorite VSauce videos, all three channels confounded. I don't know if it's just me, but when you mentioned the choice we face, it made me imagine a certain country that was once a child, then became a knight, but then turned into a dragon...
Don't knock push that log till you try it. Its awesome! Humanity evolved pushing the log. I think the repetitiveness and the bees (Boss) were the inspiration for making the primitive video games so damn hard.
The single most important lesson ever taught on this show @ 8:12
This is one of the best videos on TH-cam.
3000 B.C.- We must respect the dragon!
1000 A.D.- We must kill the dragon!
1300 A.D.- We must thank the dragon!
1600 A.D.- We must observe the dragon!
1800 A.D.- We must befriend the dragon!
2017 A.D.- We must lewd the dragon!
(Lucoa is best waifu!)
Edward Jones Gosh i wonder what will be next after lewding the dragon?
Probably something unspeakably filthy...
Like holding hands... 😠
Edward Jones 😂 yeah or even cuddling.
Woahwoahwoahwooooaaaaaah! Let's not get too crazy!
Elma is better :3
It's a shame the song of in the end got copyright struck. It really detracts from the end of the video with it being gone
Great video ... and thanks for the final, it's my favorite song ! Rishloo !
didn't this video used to be tiltled: "The millions year war: man vs dragons", or is that just me?
Yes it definitely was, I was confused when I couldn't find that video
I've got a pet snake. He's pretty chill.
The5thHorseman I want a snake they are so cool
The5thHorseman Snek
The5thHorseman put your finger inside its mouth
The5thHorseman be careful tho he just might stop yo evolution
I have never feared snakes. Even though my home town was filled with them, and yes these guys were venomous.
pet snakes are chill.
Dude, I miss these kinds of videos so much, they were just so amazing and, idk, they just filled me with so much awe.
There are areas of China and Mongolia where dinosaur bones are all over the landscape. People built houses out of them. Naturally, people would make stories about the rigin of these giant bones. This is I believe where dragons came from.
Oriental dragons since time immemorial were believed to be good creatures, mighty forces of nature that bring good fortune. Western dragons were seen as evil, but if that were always true one wonders why there are so many dragons in ancient Celtic
and Nordic imagery, particularly in the Lindisfarne Gospels.
The fear or healthy respect of snakes is universal and obvious, there are poisonous snakes on all 5 continents. But I see a great need to distinguish dragons from snakes, mythical or otherwise. For example, Quetzalcoatl is not a dragon, it's a feathered snake.
"The Flight of Dragons" by Peter Dickinson is one of my favorite books, even if everything there is nonsense.
5 inhabited continents? Not 6?
Nevermind, I forgot some people consider the Americas a single continent. My bad.
Kurtlane He already answers that. he said dragons were a mix between primates 3vgreatest enemies. Snakes, eagles and leopards.
This doesn't explain how other regions thought up dragons independently and without contact. Many Chinese and Japanese dragons could also be described as simply feathered snakes, not all had arms or legs.
all 5 continents
13:14 Rishloo - Just A Ride
6:12 That hissing scared the heck out of me, your point has been proven.
That outro music should have been Dragonforce.
Funny, I was working in the garden yesterday and suddenly my female Savannah Cat sitting 20 feet behind me in the window starts howling a very loud and insistent howl and I process this and remember it means she has seen a snake. I look carefully around me, no snake, so I go up to her sitting in the window, she looks up at me and I ask her: "Where is the Snake?". She look past me down into the garden and I carefully follow her eyes, no snake. I walk back to the spot in the garden she is staring at, where is the damned snake, I know she sees it but I don't. I grab a stick and start poking around and suddenly there is movement and I finally see it, it was less than 2 feet away right in front of me the whole time!
But my cat saw it minutes ago from 20 feet away. Had the screen not been there she would have killed it long before I ever saw it.
Columbus and Howler Monkeys are deathly scared of the Fer de Lance. Jaguars consider all 3 an easy meal.
You are the most informative host I have come across in many years. Thank you for your efforts in bringing these universal subjects to the world.