One of the absolutely rare cases where a 1st Round QB gets tossed after 1 year. It was just unimaginable for him to have a 3 win season after all of UCLA. The 2018 draft is definitely going to be talked about for a long time!
@@ChrisF-fx5du it's not a bad pick but he was injured one whole year and he's not on the team anymore and the broncos haven't had a good starting QB. But Allen def was rough to start
Just found this page and gotta say this is one of the better commentaries Ive seen in awhile. Straightforward and entertaining too! Will definitely be tuning into more of these vids
As a Cardinals fan, I was at first excited for a new qb in a draft, I was a junior in high school, and watched him get drafted when I was on my shift at arby's. Then, he said the 9 mistakes thing, and I knew we were screwed.
Regardless of the fact that he was dealt terrible hands by playing for two tanking franchises (ARZ and MIA), Rosen was, at the end of the day, a lazy, opinionated asshole. He was just never the tabloid trainwreck that Johnny Manziel was, so he was allowed to fail more quietly. But still, I'll never forget Rosen putting his foot in his mouth in every single interview he gave and thinking, "Yeah, there's no way this kid won't be a bust." First vid I've seen from you BTW. You just earned yourself a new subscriber...keep up the good work!
I've never seen any of your prior work but this video is super well done! Great editing, content, and timing. Its not easy to get all those aligned together but you've nailed it!
I gotta mention one of the FUNNIEST josh rosen moments--- at one point his Twitter header had him in the Dolphins gear, his profile bio said QB Tampa Bay Buccs and he was playing that day as a member of the 49ers!! 😂
@@deecee2174 He would have been fired at the end of the season instead of immediately after the game. If I am not mistaken, it was the only time the Packers fired a Head Coach before the season ended.
First video from this content creator for me, and I’m so glad it was on my main page. This is well made content, fits perfectly with the other non-network football content i enjoy. Hopefully all the other videos are as well put together as this one. Great video!
It didn’t help that Rosen’s first two head coaches were major busts. If drafted first, he would have had the same situation in Cleveland with Coach Hue… another major bust.
yeah, it's sort of telling that guys like Darnold and Baker were also drafted into terrible situations, but made the most of their second chances because they have the mental resilience and hunger to get better. Allen could've been that guy too, if he cared enough to put in the work. if you can't soak up Tom Brady's knowledge and take advantage in a QB-friendly system immediately after in SF, i doubt there was ever going to be a situation that could pull the best out of him.
I don’t think Josh Rosen was given a fair chance in the NFL he basically went from a terrible team to another terrible team. However, his superiority complex doesn’t surprise me considering both his parents were successful and he was a tennis phenom. He had people l his entire childhood praising him and telling him he was special and it seems like it went to his head.
Whats the difference between superiority complex and confidence? Most people will tell you nfl QB's need to be confident. I've seen several pros flash moments of being cocky.
@@willmuny9201 There are cases this isn't true, i.e, Tebow, I.E VY, Kap is the biggest one. there is this forgotten group of QB's where, when they're on the field they succeed, their just never on the field, and politics keeps them off the field.
@@tvtda1Kap and Tebow are bad examples I’d say, both suffered inaccuracy issues, Tebow fs being the worst out of the two throwing, even then the only reason he was replaced was because the Broncos got Peyton fuckin Manning to replace him, Kap in the meantime was a scrambling QB through and through, was enough to take his team to the SB but then people figured him out and he lost his job to BLAINE GABBERT of all players
Qb is a hard position. It takes more than talent. Join the wrong team with the wrong coach or scheme and it’s over. I think once these young QBs lose their confidence they never recover.
100% agree! I’m still convinced Joey Harrington would have been great if he hadn’t gone to the Lions. The Lions of that era would have ruined most of the all-time greats.
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@@buruzn09 No adult who still goes by "Joey" is going to be great
The red flags were earlier than the ones mentioned. He did an interview with a local Fox Sports channel and said things that questioned his drive to play the game. I knew then he was not going to make it. Doesn't hurt that his father is a renowned surgeon and the kid was set for life regardless of football... another potential red flag regarding drive.
This is the first video I caught on your channel and you get major props for the following: 1) Appearing on camera. Slats a good move when trying to build recognition and a brand. 2) Holding a mic. Brett Kollman recently started doing this and it’s cool in a nerdy sort of way. 3) Having a more complex take on why something happened and recognizing the factors beyond the player’s control. A lot of analysts neglect this. That you highlighted Arizona’s O-line difficulties vs. Chicago’s monster defense gives you a ton of credibility vs others wise arguments boil down to “Josh bad.” Nice work! I can’t find your channel’s stats but I’m going to subscribe and see how you develop your content and brand.
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You really know your stuff for being a fry cook at Harvey's
First video I've seen from SheGotSports, and WOW, this is one of the best football analysis videos I've ever seen. Great use of stats, video, pics, she speaks clearly and conveys passion for the sport and she has a lot of energy. Top-notch content and I'm looking forward to watching a lot more videos on this newly subscribed to channel. 🏆🏆🏆
@amanda.audrey. nah, not interested, she's young enough to be my daughter. And I purposely didn't bring up her good looks because it wasn't a factor, she's good regardless. Weak attempt at an insult. Gfy
I agree with a lot of things he said about college football being a business and the NFL’s CTE issues. Regardless of how you feel about him personally, dude got one of the toughest breaks of any young QB of all time. If you got a bad offense like you can’t do anything. Can’t run the ball, damn sure can’t form a pocket to throw the ball. All things a young QB needs to have success.
Josh Allen started off with possibly the worst roster in the NFL and the results were predictable. His mentor was Nathen Peterman-he of 4TDs to 13 Ints lifetime. He also had a defensive coach. The difference was that his OC was Brian Daboll, the ownership was committed, and most of all Allen worked his butt off. I don't think any of those things applied to Rosen.
First time watcher... and I gotta say, you're a great storyteller! I never really understood the Rosen as an East coaster that worked sports during football Saturday, so I didn't see much tape for myself. But I didn't know the extent of his arrogance. I appreciate you relaying the analysis in entertaining fashion.
You can't use the fact that he went to a bad team as to why he didn't have success. A guy named Andrew Luck went to a terrible Colts team and all he did was go 11-5 for 3 straight seasons and took that team to an AFC title game.
Yeah, in luck’s case, he still got developmentally destroyed by a bad team. He was just such a generational talent that they took a little longer to fuck him up
He's a perfect example of what happens when you mismanage talent. I thought after watching film dude had one of the most perfect balls I had ever seen. Him and darnold were mismanaged
@@PBMdanya meh idk I think Darnold will prove he's better than many think. I think Josh was the same case. He may have needed time to sit and develop like Aaron Rodgers did
Rosen is a kid who’s moderately successful (by SoCal standards) parents probably reinforced behaviors that made him an absolute narcissist. He never learned about the real world because he never had to because the bubble that resides over Orange County won’t pop. I’ve been there and it’s scary how much materialism reigns in that place. Everyone is obsessed with the trappings of success and wealth and slightly out doing each other in the race to the upper middle.
Spinal surgeons have superiority complexes, so his dad didn't help him. The biggest thing from Rosen I remember was the Dorsey interview about asking the UCLA volleyball coach about him which the coach directed the GM to Rosen's girlfriend to ask her about him.
One of the biggest reason for QB busts in the NFL in my opinion is they get drafted to teams and then the team expects them to be as good as their college days. Not have them mentored by QBs that have more experience then them because College Ball and NFL are two completely different sports. So they get fucked then have noone to help them and boom they are the next laughing stock of the NFL. Case in point Jimmy G before his injury was looking like he'd be a franchise QB because of being under Tom Brady. Guys like Baker Mayfield and Josh Rosen were put in on teams without any real experienced QB so they dont have a mentor to help them learn the NFL ways.
I was honestly pretty stoked when the Cardinals drafted Rosen. I thought he was a stud in college and his talent would transfer over to the pros. In all fairness he was put in a tough spot but his ego was also a big part of it.
As a Cardinals fan since birth, I've experienced all the highs and lows with the team. When the Cardinals drafted Rosen, I remember my dad, right after watching Rosen's infamous speech at the Draft, saying, 'This kid isn't going to last.' To this day, he still rants about how dumb drafting Rosen was, but if you ask him now, he'll tell you there was a much bigger issue that happened a season later-a certain head coach was hired.
I forgot to subscribe after seeing you on Grossi! You’re a Giants fan! Last season turned out pretty well for ya, not so great for Tom nor did the NYG/GB you were discussing. This was really well-done; I didn’t know ALL this about Rosen. All I caught in the media was “character issues” and of course “massive bust.” Looking forward to your content this coming season!
I remember watching that Texas A&M/UCLA game back in 2017 thinking that he was truly going to be amazing at the next level. So much so that I wanted the Dolphins to draft him in 2018. Big time oof and a big time bust!
@@Mahdi-the-giraffe oh trust me I know. That 2019 season was fun because we knew we were going to be bad. We had zero expectations. We just had to enjoy the ride for what it was because there was light at the end of the tunnel. And here we are…
I kinda wonder if Rosen had ended up in Buffalo if his career would have been better. Clearly the Bills chose wisely with Allen, but Brian Daboll did a fantastic job coaching Allen to his full potential. He probably would have gotten more out of Rosen.
If he says he has a superiority complex then he probably doesn't have it Also, it is great that he says it like it is regarding college football. Sounds like he didn't want to bd part of the click, he is one jf the few that speaks up during his prime, most start talking about how bad it is but knly after they retire Looks like Josh was too honest for thd big hypocrisy that is football
This is the first video I seen you produce and liked it a lot. I subscribed, liked the video and left this comment because I enjoyed your research and the way you explain the red flags of Josh Rosen.
do a live count down show about the barkley franchise tag. the deadline is 4 p.m. ET on July 17. you could start the video at 3:55 pm and she if he signs.
Rosen is one of those guys that would have really benefitted by being on the Pats or Chiefs bench. He went from bad situation to bad situation and never got a chance to stabilize. Seeing how Rodgers is mentoring Wilson on the Jets, it seems like that is the kind of thing Rosen really needed but never got. Dont think its any surprise that Murray, Tua, and Lance are all on shaky ground now.
If you look at the big QB busts over the years, a massive amount of them can be summed up with this phrase: "character issues". Hard work beats talent if talent don't work hard, and in the NFL, *everyone* is talented.
Your video, is amazing. Thank you!!! Rosen is the perfect example that without the mind (maturity, humilty, will to learn and improve and let others to advise and teach you) no arm can succed in nfl at all
Great video, really well reserached, written and edited also funny and interesting. It's nice to see a different perspective than all the sports bros out there . One tip trust your mic it'll pick it you up stationary and out of shot it's a little distracting keep up the vids you got my sub
THIS IS AMAZING!! You are my favorite NFL coverage personality after Brandon Perna, no kidding! I understand these takes so much effort to make. Much love from Sweden GO BIRDS!
She did a great guest appearance on Grossi early last season (she’s a Giants fan) & it completely slipped my mind to come sub. This video was GREAT, and it’s cool to see some ladies trying to make it in this over-saturated, male-dominated space. Don’t get me wrong, if she was bad at it I wouldn’t care, this was a great video. But the fact that this space desperately needs some informed, talented, entertaining women gets bonus points from me. I’m subbed now; looking forward to checking out her content as the we head into training camp & beyond.
You could see the talent the first few games in AZ, but receivers kept dropping the ball on his best throws for some reason. Then he started getting blasted almost every drop back n started losin confidence along with his OC gettin fired half way through the season. That Green Bay games was so funny especially with his unathletic looking run that sealed the game 😂
I just found your content (fastest sibs i've ever given lol) and OMG I love it!! I just recently got into American Football and Im trying to learn more, I enjoy the way you narrate, the insights you provide and is quite clear, this is your passion! Keep it up!! ❤
I never truly blame Rosen. Just imagine you get a new supervisor every 90 days (quarter) and they each put new policies in. You're never going to be a good at any of them than if you just had one. He needed stability.
Some amazing perspectives and facts in your video on Rosen. I watched mini videos in the past but yours truly with remarkable explained his timeline in personality in a miraculous way I really tell you put a lot of work in this and for that I am forever grateful. My thoughts of Josh Rosen he was giving everything in college parents had a lot of money. As soon as he made those words "9 mistakes ahead of me", line I knew he was doomed. But if you look at Josh Allen worked his tail to even have colleges interested in him. And we all know the outcome of both of those players. Thank you just earned a sub.
OMG! WHERE HAS THIS CHANNEL BEEN ALL MY LIFE? The knowledge! The presentation! The writing! It's all top notch! Thank you so much! Immediate subscription!!
I find your video entertaining and well done. You'd be a great sports analyst. You're a breath of fresh air compared to a majority of the other sport analysts that come off as unathletic. Keep up the good work.
Absolutely loved this video about rosen. I believe two things can be true at once, I think rosens attitude sunk him quickly and also that he got the david carr treatment in that he got back to back worst o-lines and his confidence shattered and was never the same again. I remember that draft and I really thought him and darnold would be franchise QB'S
To be fair to Sam, it seems like he’s never actually given up, even with being on multiple garbage teams. Now he’s with my team, and I’m hoping he can rehab his career here. Journeyman backup.
Lots of smarter (not to mention highly-paid) football minds than yours thought the same thing. LOTS of college athletes have something akin to a “superiority complex” considering they’ve been treated like gods for most of their lives. I agree- when a mix of ego/hype collides with early failure: it can mentally destroy players forever. See Ryan Leaf for the most egregious sample among QBs. Carson Wentz getting injured and watching Nick Foles win a SB & get a freakin’ statue after what was looking like an MVP campaign for Wentz. Sometimes, it works out. Look at how “bad” the optics were for Eli Manning. Refusing to go to the Chargers, and struggling early. Things turned out pretty well for him, I’d say.
Rosen made it pretty clear even before he was drafted that football wasn't necessarily the most important thing to him, which is, for better or worse, just something that's impossible to accept if you're an NFL GM or coach. Once he got to the league, it was pretty obvious that the passion just wasn't there from him to become a great. But honestly, good for him. Seems like a guy who knows what he wants from life.
I mean it actually reads to me like he had any passion beaten out of him. If a coach doesn't even want to answer a question like "why am I doing this in this way?", what the heck is the point of being there? That's not a bad question, it helps you understand why it needs to be applied that way which leads to deeper understanding of the system. Combine that with the line issues, it's easy to see how he lost passion.
Never named a captain at UCLA. That was another red flag.
As soon as i heard Josh Rosen say there was 9 mistakes ahead of me i knew he was going to be a bust
Bro and he said it suuuuuper Cringy
My father absolutely hated him for saying that. He'd trash Rosen even when he was on the bench. 😂
Aaron Rodgers essentially said the same thing.
Yeah, and he proved that the only mistake was the Cards drafting him 6 rounds too early.
100%
"I have a superiority complex I need to get rid of"
Seems like the NFL helped with that.
How is he doing and feeling lately?
NFL = Not for long
His parents obviously gassed him up too much. Gotta humble yourself to learn from everyone in the league!
@@edwardgaines6561yes sir
"I wanna own the world"
My brother in Christ, you couldn't even own a roster spot lmao
A: "He's a five star recruit!"
B: "But he's a six star douchebag..."
The football gods dont like dbag QBs. You can be a WR or a CB, but QB.. they will strike you down lol
"Welcome to McDonald's, how can I help you?"
"Hi, one Earth please"
"Oh damnit, it's Rosen again"
Dude it’s a Orange County white kid, his fast food is five guys or Chipolte…
@@joshuapatrick682”white kid”
Try again. 👃
@@joshuapatrick682”white kid”. Right. 👃
@@joshuapatrick682 “whitekid”. Lmao. Wrong. He’s a tribe member👃
One of the absolutely rare cases where a 1st Round QB gets tossed after 1 year. It was just unimaginable for him to have a 3 win season after all of UCLA. The 2018 draft is definitely going to be talked about for a long time!
absolutely
Part of the reason he was so bad was he was sacked the most times of any QB that year and the Cardinals where ass
You mean The Cards are ass. They have one good season a decade.
Trey Lance is another example
@@RaizenEditsSacks are QB stats. Get rid of the motherfucker. This is also a "Justin Fields is terrible" opinion
When the Bills drafted Allen over Rosen i fell to my knees in despair. Needless to say im so glad I was wrong
Dodged a bullet but Arizona caught it for you, your welcome
Trust the process.
I still wish my team would have drafted Allen over chubb
@@DuckAvenger I'd rather had Bradley
@@ChrisF-fx5du it's not a bad pick but he was injured one whole year and he's not on the team anymore and the broncos haven't had a good starting QB. But Allen def was rough to start
Just found this page and gotta say this is one of the better commentaries Ive seen in awhile. Straightforward and entertaining too! Will definitely be tuning into more of these vids
Thank you Ryan!!! That really means a lot!! Welcome to the community!!! 💙💙
@@SheGotSportsSame here. New subscriber.
Yay we’re starting a bandwagon 💪🏿
As a Cardinals fan, I was at first excited for a new qb in a draft, I was a junior in high school, and watched him get drafted when I was on my shift at arby's. Then, he said the 9 mistakes thing, and I knew we were screwed.
Yep
Truth I’m a Cardinals fan too
The cooks st my work watch the draft too. You changing oil yet?
This is stunning and brave! Somebody should write a movie about this! "Arbys employee predicts future of nfl draft prospect".
You were screwed before he showed up. That team was terrible. He didnt stand a chance going there. No qb did.
Can we take a minute and appreciate the fact that the Cardinals did Miami a huge favor and traded up ahead of Miami and took Rosen before we could
Tbh he may have been better off in Miami from the get go
@@jharp08he did go to Miami and was on the practice squad
Plus they gave him to you the next year to assist the tank for Tua 😂
So that Means Arizona helped Miami twice (by accident!)
@@Zayy13A year after a horrendous rookie season and being traded by the team that drafted you after one season.
Regardless of the fact that he was dealt terrible hands by playing for two tanking franchises (ARZ and MIA), Rosen was, at the end of the day, a lazy, opinionated asshole. He was just never the tabloid trainwreck that Johnny Manziel was, so he was allowed to fail more quietly.
But still, I'll never forget Rosen putting his foot in his mouth in every single interview he gave and thinking, "Yeah, there's no way this kid won't be a bust."
First vid I've seen from you BTW. You just earned yourself a new subscriber...keep up the good work!
I've never seen any of your prior work but this video is super well done! Great editing, content, and timing. Its not easy to get all those aligned together but you've nailed it!
I gotta mention one of the FUNNIEST josh rosen moments--- at one point his Twitter header had him in the Dolphins gear, his profile bio said QB Tampa Bay Buccs and he was playing that day as a member of the 49ers!! 😂
I guess you had to be there
I could never be a GM. I wanted the Broncos to draft him so bad lol. Great video Lauren.
Thank Torri!
My pop was initially unhappy when we traded up to draft Josh not-this-one
@@dnasty312 how's he feeling now? 😅
I wanted Lamar that year
To be fair, GMs had way more information about the guy than you did, they actually got to meet him
The perception of Rosen was so bad that the Packers fired head coach Mike McCarthy immediately after the Cardinals beat the Packers.
Naw McCarthy was on his way out
@@deecee2174 He would have been fired at the end of the season instead of immediately after the game. If I am not mistaken, it was the only time the Packers fired a Head Coach before the season ended.
First video from this content creator for me, and I’m so glad it was on my main page. This is well made content, fits perfectly with the other non-network football content i enjoy. Hopefully all the other videos are as well put together as this one.
Great video!
My first as well. She did a great job.
Me too! Glad to see a competent female football content creator!
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It didn’t help that Rosen’s first two head coaches were major busts. If drafted first, he would have had the same situation in Cleveland with Coach Hue… another major bust.
yeah, it's sort of telling that guys like Darnold and Baker were also drafted into terrible situations, but made the most of their second chances because they have the mental resilience and hunger to get better. Allen could've been that guy too, if he cared enough to put in the work. if you can't soak up Tom Brady's knowledge and take advantage in a QB-friendly system immediately after in SF, i doubt there was ever going to be a situation that could pull the best out of him.
I don’t think Josh Rosen was given a fair chance in the NFL he basically went from a terrible team to another terrible team. However, his superiority complex doesn’t surprise me considering both his parents were successful and he was a tennis phenom. He had people l his entire childhood praising him and telling him he was special and it seems like it went to his head.
Exactly
Whats the difference between superiority complex and confidence? Most people will tell you nfl QB's need to be confident. I've seen several pros flash moments of being cocky.
@@willmuny9201 There are cases this isn't true, i.e, Tebow, I.E VY, Kap is the biggest one. there is this forgotten group of QB's where, when they're on the field they succeed, their just never on the field, and politics keeps them off the field.
Thank you for stating this better than I could have. It is definitely better to be hungry and have some adversity coming up.
@@tvtda1Kap and Tebow are bad examples I’d say, both suffered inaccuracy issues, Tebow fs being the worst out of the two throwing, even then the only reason he was replaced was because the Broncos got Peyton fuckin Manning to replace him, Kap in the meantime was a scrambling QB through and through, was enough to take his team to the SB but then people figured him out and he lost his job to BLAINE GABBERT of all players
Qb is a hard position. It takes more than talent. Join the wrong team with the wrong coach or scheme and it’s over.
I think once these young QBs lose their confidence they never recover.
100% agree! I’m still convinced Joey Harrington would have been great if he hadn’t gone to the Lions. The Lions of that era would have ruined most of the all-time greats.
@@buruzn09 No adult who still goes by "Joey" is going to be great
The red flags were earlier than the ones mentioned. He did an interview with a local Fox Sports channel and said things that questioned his drive to play the game. I knew then he was not going to make it. Doesn't hurt that his father is a renowned surgeon and the kid was set for life regardless of football... another potential red flag regarding drive.
His father is a doctor at the hospital Sam Darnold’s dad also works…in maintenance. They could not be more different.
This is the first video I caught on your channel and you get major props for the following:
1) Appearing on camera. Slats a good move when trying to build recognition and a brand.
2) Holding a mic. Brett Kollman recently started doing this and it’s cool in a nerdy sort of way.
3) Having a more complex take on why something happened and recognizing the factors beyond the player’s control. A lot of analysts neglect this. That you highlighted Arizona’s O-line difficulties vs. Chicago’s monster defense gives you a ton of credibility vs others wise arguments boil down to “Josh bad.”
Nice work! I can’t find your channel’s stats but I’m going to subscribe and see how you develop your content and brand.
You really know your stuff for being a fry cook at Harvey's
Lauren, I remember when you mentioned that you wanted to introduce content to make the channel better. You're doing a great job!
I like the straightforward and informative commentary, thanks for your work on this!
First video I've seen from SheGotSports, and WOW, this is one of the best football analysis videos I've ever seen. Great use of stats, video, pics, she speaks clearly and conveys passion for the sport and she has a lot of energy. Top-notch content and I'm looking forward to watching a lot more videos on this newly subscribed to channel. 🏆🏆🏆
@amanda.audrey. nah, not interested, she's young enough to be my daughter. And I purposely didn't bring up her good looks because it wasn't a factor, she's good regardless. Weak attempt at an insult. Gfy
I agree with a lot of things he said about college football being a business and the NFL’s CTE issues. Regardless of how you feel about him personally, dude got one of the toughest breaks of any young QB of all time. If you got a bad offense like you can’t do anything. Can’t run the ball, damn sure can’t form a pocket to throw the ball. All things a young QB needs to have success.
The Cardinals ruined every QB they ever drafted. We shall see what happens with Kyler Murray.
Josh Allen started off with possibly the worst roster in the NFL and the results were predictable. His mentor was Nathen Peterman-he of 4TDs to 13 Ints lifetime. He also had a defensive coach. The difference was that his OC was Brian Daboll, the ownership was committed, and most of all Allen worked his butt off. I don't think any of those things applied to Rosen.
Trent Dilfer told Rosen about his attitude and approach at Elite 11. It was sound advice but Clearly none of that stuck.
First time watcher... and I gotta say, you're a great storyteller! I never really understood the Rosen as an East coaster that worked sports during football Saturday, so I didn't see much tape for myself. But I didn't know the extent of his arrogance. I appreciate you relaying the analysis in entertaining fashion.
Hey congratulations on all your video success. I remember when you were doing giants fan reactions. All that pain has finally paid off
You can't use the fact that he went to a bad team as to why he didn't have success. A guy named Andrew Luck went to a terrible Colts team and all he did was go 11-5 for 3 straight seasons and took that team to an AFC title game.
Yes because every qb is Andrew luck ? Stupid comparison
@@rthraitor and also, we saw how those awful teams and horrid O-lines fucked up Luck's career
Yeah, in luck’s case, he still got developmentally destroyed by a bad team. He was just such a generational talent that they took a little longer to fuck him up
As a Bills fan I wanted the bills to draft Rosen over Allen. I'm happy as hell I was so incredibly wrong!!!
He's a perfect example of what happens when you mismanage talent. I thought after watching film dude had one of the most perfect balls I had ever seen. Him and darnold were mismanaged
Josh suffered from receivers dropping a lot of passes in Arizona and Miami.
No he just wasn't good. That played a role too.
@@PBMdanya meh idk I think Darnold will prove he's better than many think. I think Josh was the same case. He may have needed time to sit and develop like Aaron Rodgers did
This was one of the best researched and nuanced career review I’ve seen. Got a subscriber out of me.
The Bills fan who said “They drafted the wrong Josh!!” :😮💨
Yeah getting an amazing QB instead. What a terrible way of being proven wrong lmao
Just because you do good in college doesn't mean you will make it in the Pro's
Rosen is a kid who’s moderately successful (by SoCal standards) parents probably reinforced behaviors that made him an absolute narcissist. He never learned about the real world because he never had to because the bubble that resides over Orange County won’t pop. I’ve been there and it’s scary how much materialism reigns in that place. Everyone is obsessed with the trappings of success and wealth and slightly out doing each other in the race to the upper middle.
Spinal surgeons have superiority complexes, so his dad didn't help him. The biggest thing from Rosen I remember was the Dorsey interview about asking the UCLA volleyball coach about him which the coach directed the GM to Rosen's girlfriend to ask her about him.
Fantastic video Lauren! Lot of research and work put in for sure. Very interesting stuff to learn about in this video. Keep it up!
I just found your channel and it is awesome!! Keep up the great work
Lauren you’re killing it! This is so good.
Now I get why he dropped off the radar for so many teams. Excellent in-depth story too!!
One of the biggest reason for QB busts in the NFL in my opinion is they get drafted to teams and then the team expects them to be as good as their college days. Not have them mentored by QBs that have more experience then them because College Ball and NFL are two completely different sports.
So they get fucked then have noone to help them and boom they are the next laughing stock of the NFL.
Case in point Jimmy G before his injury was looking like he'd be a franchise QB because of being under Tom Brady.
Guys like Baker Mayfield and Josh Rosen were put in on teams without any real experienced QB so they dont have a mentor to help them learn the NFL ways.
I was honestly pretty stoked when the Cardinals drafted Rosen. I thought he was a stud in college and his talent would transfer over to the pros. In all fairness he was put in a tough spot but his ego was also a big part of it.
As a Cardinals fan since birth, I've experienced all the highs and lows with the team. When the Cardinals drafted Rosen, I remember my dad, right after watching Rosen's infamous speech at the Draft, saying, 'This kid isn't going to last.' To this day, he still rants about how dumb drafting Rosen was, but if you ask him now, he'll tell you there was a much bigger issue that happened a season later-a certain head coach was hired.
Nightmares are dreams also. Sometimes your dream job ends up that way
Great first video! Maybe a bit too long but please keep em coming!
I forgot to subscribe after seeing you on Grossi! You’re a Giants fan! Last season turned out pretty well for ya, not so great for Tom nor did the NYG/GB you were discussing.
This was really well-done; I didn’t know ALL this about Rosen. All I caught in the media was “character issues” and of course “massive bust.” Looking forward to your content this coming season!
I really like your content! You got a new subscriber! Keep it up! 😊
He lacked a mutual respect for his competitors. He was Baker Mayfield without being able to back up what his mouth said
Unexpectedly great production quality for a channel your size. Keep up the good work!
Good stuff Lauren! You are a natural!
Thanks so much!!!!
That’s another W video Lauren!!!
Thanks!
I remember watching that Texas A&M/UCLA game back in 2017 thinking that he was truly going to be amazing at the next level. So much so that I wanted the Dolphins to draft him in 2018. Big time oof and a big time bust!
Don’t worry they still got him
@@Mahdi-the-giraffe oh trust me I know. That 2019 season was fun because we knew we were going to be bad. We had zero expectations. We just had to enjoy the ride for what it was because there was light at the end of the tunnel. And here we are…
I kinda wonder if Rosen had ended up in Buffalo if his career would have been better. Clearly the Bills chose wisely with Allen, but Brian Daboll did a fantastic job coaching Allen to his full potential. He probably would have gotten more out of Rosen.
Then watch him against Washington and run screaming into the night. It looked like he never played QB in his life.
If A&M had any brains and run the ball in the second half they would have won by at least 2 scores.
Dude you crushed this video! Big fan!!!!
If he says he has a superiority complex then he probably doesn't have it
Also, it is great that he says it like it is regarding college football.
Sounds like he didn't want to bd part of the click, he is one jf the few that speaks up during his prime, most start talking about how bad it is but knly after they retire
Looks like Josh was too honest for thd big hypocrisy that is football
This is the first video I seen you produce and liked it a lot. I subscribed, liked the video and left this comment because I enjoyed your research and the way you explain the red flags of Josh Rosen.
I remember the 2018 draft and being a jet fan and a lot of fans were split about taking Rosen or Darnold
It would’ve been a for me either way
I’m a bill fan
Yeah Bills fans thought they chose the wrong Josh in picking Josh Allen
@@reneewilliams5777 yeah I thought that too but I was so happy when it worked out for us
Rosen was the first QB in history to be drafted in the 1st round and his nose went in the 2nd round.
Great video Lauren!!!
The title of this video is extremely misleading. It implies that Rosen had a rise to actually fall from.
Being a 5 Star recruit and the #1 QB in your whole entire class is a rise to say the least
Your contents up there with my favorites. You're killing it
do a live count down show about the barkley franchise tag. the deadline is 4 p.m. ET on July 17. you could start the video at 3:55 pm and she if he signs.
Love your commentary style and insight! Subscribed!
Josh Rosen is a Ryan Leaf clone
First time I watch one of your videos and I have to say, you have a way of narrating that’s incredibly engaging! Great work and great video!
Rosen is one of those guys that would have really benefitted by being on the Pats or Chiefs bench. He went from bad situation to bad situation and never got a chance to stabilize. Seeing how Rodgers is mentoring Wilson on the Jets, it seems like that is the kind of thing Rosen really needed but never got. Dont think its any surprise that Murray, Tua, and Lance are all on shaky ground now.
I still don't get why everybody dogs Mayfield for being too short, but not Kyler Murray?
@@edwardgaines6561 because Murray can run out of the pocket way better than baker. Batted balls mostly happen in the pocket.
How’d that go?
Good video, glad it got recommended to me 👍🏽
If you look at the big QB busts over the years, a massive amount of them can be summed up with this phrase: "character issues".
Hard work beats talent if talent don't work hard, and in the NFL, *everyone* is talented.
1st time viewer, gotta say you're pretty good. Solid info and you kept the pace going.
Your video, is amazing. Thank you!!! Rosen is the perfect example that without the mind (maturity, humilty, will to learn and improve and let others to advise and teach you) no arm can succed in nfl at all
Another banger! Let’s go!
Basically, everyone in authority was kissing his rear end until he got to the NFL.
Awesome video - ty for posting!
Awesome video!! Just want to acknowledge the wild fact that Rosen and AJ Mcarron were even in the NFL at the same time 😂 idk why that stuck out
"12 mistakes made before me"
make that 13 buddy 💀
Excellent job Adrianna. Keep up the terrific content and hard work that you put into this.
Great video, really well reserached, written and edited also funny and interesting. It's nice to see a different perspective than all the sports bros out there . One tip trust your mic it'll pick it you up stationary and out of shot it's a little distracting keep up the vids you got my sub
0:34 aww hell yeah
😂😂😂
Lauren....love this channel! Keep the videos coming
THIS IS AMAZING!!
You are my favorite NFL coverage personality after Brandon Perna, no kidding!
I understand these takes so much effort to make.
Much love from Sweden
GO BIRDS!
She honestly kinda reminds me of Jess lol
@@flyingcolors96 Dont know who "Jess" is.
A prettier more enthusiastic Flemloraps.
@@crooster1 Brandon’s wife.
First time I've watched your video. You're straight to point. Not over the top. Keep it up 👍🏿
She did a great guest appearance on Grossi early last season (she’s a Giants fan) & it completely slipped my mind to come sub.
This video was GREAT, and it’s cool to see some ladies trying to make it in this over-saturated, male-dominated space.
Don’t get me wrong, if she was bad at it I wouldn’t care, this was a great video. But the fact that this space desperately needs some informed, talented, entertaining women gets bonus points from me. I’m subbed now; looking forward to checking out her content as the we head into training camp & beyond.
So, they treated him like an eight year old just so they could get some work done. Should have just cut him from the team and moved on.
ik that was like one of the wildest things I read about him lol
This is awesome coverage!!
I wanna hear the Josh Rosen Socio-economics lecture. That part kind of sounded like ADHD, but it also could be anything else too.
Great research, great analysis, great video!! Definitely subbing.
You could see the talent the first few games in AZ, but receivers kept dropping the ball on his best throws for some reason. Then he started getting blasted almost every drop back n started losin confidence along with his OC gettin fired half way through the season. That Green Bay games was so funny especially with his unathletic looking run that sealed the game 😂
I just found your content (fastest sibs i've ever given lol) and OMG I love it!! I just recently got into American Football and Im trying to learn more, I enjoy the way you narrate, the insights you provide and is quite clear, this is your passion! Keep it up!! ❤
This was a top tier breakdown.
Really good content, please keep going
I never truly blame Rosen. Just imagine you get a new supervisor every 90 days (quarter) and they each put new policies in. You're never going to be a good at any of them than if you just had one. He needed stability.
This is a really well done video. Glad it popped up in my suggested. Keep it up. Jaden smith joke was a good one
Some amazing perspectives and facts in your video on Rosen. I watched mini videos in the past but yours truly with remarkable explained his timeline in personality in a miraculous way I really tell you put a lot of work in this and for that I am forever grateful. My thoughts of Josh Rosen he was giving everything in college parents had a lot of money. As soon as he made those words "9 mistakes ahead of me", line I knew he was doomed. But if you look at Josh Allen worked his tail to even have colleges interested in him. And we all know the outcome of both of those players. Thank you just earned a sub.
OMG! WHERE HAS THIS CHANNEL BEEN ALL MY LIFE? The knowledge! The presentation! The writing! It's all top notch! Thank you so much! Immediate subscription!!
The reason was simple. Josh was a jerk. Eventually that was going to catch up to him.
You do a great job! This was a great watch.
So dude was a rich kid who lived up to every single stereotype 🤣🤣
A rich Jewish kid. Yes
Great video! Just found your channel and everything you upload is 🔥🔥
Soon as he got drafted I was like "aw man this guy's a wiener."
I find your video entertaining and well done. You'd be a great sports analyst. You're a breath of fresh air compared to a majority of the other sport analysts that come off as unathletic. Keep up the good work.
Absolutely loved this video about rosen. I believe two things can be true at once, I think rosens attitude sunk him quickly and also that he got the david carr treatment in that he got back to back worst o-lines and his confidence shattered and was never the same again. I remember that draft and I really thought him and darnold would be franchise QB'S
To be fair to Sam, it seems like he’s never actually given up, even with being on multiple garbage teams. Now he’s with my team, and I’m hoping he can rehab his career here. Journeyman backup.
Lots of smarter (not to mention highly-paid) football minds than yours thought the same thing. LOTS of college athletes have something akin to a “superiority complex” considering they’ve been treated like gods for most of their lives.
I agree- when a mix of ego/hype collides with early failure: it can mentally destroy players forever. See Ryan Leaf for the most egregious sample among QBs. Carson Wentz getting injured and watching Nick Foles win a SB & get a freakin’ statue after what was looking like an MVP campaign for Wentz.
Sometimes, it works out. Look at how “bad” the optics were for Eli Manning. Refusing to go to the Chargers, and struggling early. Things turned out pretty well for him, I’d say.
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@@sasquatchhunter86Well this aged poorly.
Rosen made it pretty clear even before he was drafted that football wasn't necessarily the most important thing to him, which is, for better or worse, just something that's impossible to accept if you're an NFL GM or coach. Once he got to the league, it was pretty obvious that the passion just wasn't there from him to become a great. But honestly, good for him. Seems like a guy who knows what he wants from life.
I mean it actually reads to me like he had any passion beaten out of him. If a coach doesn't even want to answer a question like "why am I doing this in this way?", what the heck is the point of being there? That's not a bad question, it helps you understand why it needs to be applied that way which leads to deeper understanding of the system. Combine that with the line issues, it's easy to see how he lost passion.
I don’t feel sorry for Rosen. Apparently Karma didn’t feel bad for him.
Solid work on the video. You just got a new subscriber