State says Navy veteran is not an American citizen and cancels driver's license
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- The state of Tennessee says a Navy veteran who has lived in the U.S. for more than seven decades is not an American citizen and has canceled his driver's license.
Bullying an American Vet, Classy..
That IS the American Way.
This is not going to end well
It IS a Tennessee thing. Azzholes.
On the 4th no less
Damned BLUE State....Oh, wait...
That "comissioner" needs to be fired from his job.
For following the law?
@@Neberheimhis birth certificate lists him as American citizen.
@@NeberheimHis Parents are American, so he is obviously American as well. So, I'm assuming someone screwed up somewhere.
@@JadenYukifan28 His parents did by not applying for US citizenship for him.
@@Punch8721 That's not how I was hearing it, his Parents are both American so all they needed to do once they came back from Canada was to get him an ID when he got older.
Sounds like an uninformed DMV worker using their power to make someone’s life miserable.
Nah, it’s a worker trying to verify citizenship per Real ID requirements. You lot voted for this law to catch and deport illegals, now you complain that it’s working.
And at the state level.
U.S. citizens and all legal residents of the United States can apply for a REAL ID driver license or ID card.
tn uses its exclusive republic for familyfeudalcommunism
typical governmental cartel veteran
NOT using their power, using their IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY !!!!
Absolutely ludicrous! Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves for treating a veteran this way 🇺🇲😡
(15) “United States” means- (A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C) an instrumentality of the United States.
(18)“United States citizen” means (A) any individual who is a citizen of the United States by law, birth, or naturalization; (B) any Federal, State, or local government in the United States, or any entity of any such government; or (C) any corporation, partnership, association, or other entity, organized or existing under the laws of the United States, or of any State, which has as its president or other executive officer and as its chairman of the board of directors, or holder of similar office, an individual who is a United States citizen and which has no more of its directors who are not United States citizens than constitute a minority of the number required for a quorum necessary to conduct the business of the board.
(Pub. L. 96-320, § 3, Aug. 3, 1980, 94 Stat. 975; Pub. L. 98-623, title VI, § 602(a)(2), (e)(7), Nov. 8, 1984, 98 Stat. 3410, 3412.)
Good Lord.
Unbelievable
He IS an AMERICAN citizen!! Thank you for your service!
PLEASE keep us up to date on this situation!❤ ❤❤❤
Disgraceful treatment of a Veteran. Gross civil rights violation.
has he file a lawsuit on that place cuz he need to sue them & tell the judge im a US citizen here my birth paper saying both parents are & i fight in a war..... now they telling me im not what wrong with them if im not a citizen they dont have proof of & i do then hell with them i want my money back & i want out of this dump state if they show this to a Veteran
Not surprised.
Besides if I tell the real skinny on what happened.
a. I might in up in federal jail
b. If I do they won't believe that it actually happened. But API and & Reuters is truthful. LOL
My Military ID indefinite expiration date I D card is not good for commercial airline flights.
But I can fly space A on military flights.
Not that I fly any more. Not medically advisable.
So which is real? The one that says Identification Card, Property of the US Government or the one that states it is a Driver License..
I bought one and the other is issued. Oh and I do not know of anyone that has a issued indefinite US DoD ID that is not a US citizen.
I can understand why it is not acceptable. You have to have US government permission to copy it.
Maybe that standing up thing and swearing to upholding the Constitution and that other thing about foreign & domestic is also too disturbing.
Funny how this makes the news, but they're mum when it happens to a brown or black skinned person, especially when they're not a veteran either.
If he weren’t white he’d have ppl protesting in the streets for him along with attorneys volunteering to represent him for free.
Whoever implemented this should have their license suspended for life, incompetency is running rampant everywhere.
He’s a vet and I’m disgusted with Tennessee
For treating our vets like this
What gets me is he can prove he's a citizen because his mother and father were us citizens, and his military service. This disgusting and those patriotic politicians who "love" the veterans, Crickets!!!!!
Its a federal problem not a state problem. Or to be more clear its a federal problem first and a state problem second.
We have deported veterans of Afghanistan & Iraq, that’s how virulently xenophobic our country is
@@twiz148 in this very video they mentioned how it’s a Tennessee state law holding most of this up. In the eyes of the federal government he is a citizen so just curious where you’re getting this from if not the video.
@@twiz148it was VERY specific for TENNESSEE
I'm disgusted that this veteran was treated like he was. He needs to contact the governor and his senators as well.
Agreed this is horrendous 😡😡😡😡😡😡🖕 Tennessee
It's not his country that did him wrong. It's the state of Tennessee that did him wrong.
Right?!
@@catherinewilliams9680 yeah well our country is being run by a communist regime and they are treating Americans like shit and treating criminals and illegals like kings.
This is exactly correct. The state of Tennessee does not have jurisdiction over citizenship, period. It's a FEDERAL matter.
Vote blue
@@catherinewilliams9680 it's both, Tennessee is, at least in part, reacting to federal mandates/laws.
The State appears to be completely incompetent.
Isn’t that the state where half their people walk around barefoot carrying XXX bottles?
republican
"Immigrants are poisoning the blood of this country!" What did people think Conservatives meant by that?
@@smorris281 And only TN got him busted. All DL he got from different Liberal States were for non-citizen ID.
Real DL ID is different and he wanted to get the "real DL" . All non-citizens DL's have a different code and he got that kind of DL all his life as he was not a citizen.
@@smorris281 Bigot much?
The "cowboy" humorist Will Rodgers (1879-1935) once said "When ignorance gets started it knows no bounds" this is a case in point.
Needs to go to the state dept to obtain a certificate of u.s . Citizen born abroad. As long as one birth parent is a US citizen, than the child is automatically a US citizen. I know this as my daughter was born in Germany at a us army hospital. Her birth is registered with the american state dept.
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Exactly right. I'm surprised he hasn't done this at some point in his long life. But, through no fault of his own, he's been able to slide through. The DMV, as the law is written, is correct but he can fix this situation.
I don't get what the big deal is, He's got a DD 214 and a social security card both identify his name and his social security number.
The point is, he shouldn't have to do this, because his birth certificate clearly says that he is a U.S. Citizen. As do his discharge papers, and also federal law. HE shouldn't have to do ANYTHING! It's on the state of Tennessee to comply with federal law and recognize his legitimate documents!
@@JP-uk9uc The big deal is that we all have to comply with federal law. TN DMV is complying with the law. It's simply, really, even if you disagree with it.
How are there not multiple lawyers volunteering to help this man? This is the type of man that helped build America
"How are there not multiple lawyers volunteering to help this man?" he's not a minority
@@Jusoontook the words right out of my mouth…& I’m a “minority”🙄
@@scottmiller8617 start him a go fund me for his immigration attorney if you care so much to volunteer others to do the work.
Are we all turning into cowards someone come forward to help this man who fought to keep this country free !
@@susanmcgalliard7885 from what most people are saying he needs to help himself by getting his documents in order.
If you grew up here, lived here 70 years, paid taxes, fought in the military, married and had a family, then the state of Tennessee can take a flying fuck.
I wholeheartedly agree, but tell that to everyone shouting about immigrants and who only see things in black or white.
Ted Cruz was born in Canada. How is he a US citizen then?
😂 still only makes you a colonizer
Makes you a mouth breather 😂@@MrMonopolistic
@@enchantinosis Why have borders and green cards then? Green Cards should be abolished and I should be allowed to stay where-ever the fuck I want by your logic.
"It's like your country don't want ya" BROKE MY HEART. The disrespect this veteran received is .... I'm flabbergasted! 😡 Unbelievable
Makes me want to cry! He needs to enjoy his retirement!
@sveronih5376 He can enjoy his retirement. He needs to get his US Citizenship Certificate
It's Tennessee, not the country. Get it right!
@@Nijeguhz Where is Tennessee situated? 🤔🤔🤔
@allantakiari1822 It's the Tennessee State government giving him trouble, not the Federal government. It doesn't matter where Tennessee is located. Use some critical thinking, jesus!
If I worked there and found this out, I would have kept my mouth shut and gave him his license.
And you would have been wrong as two left shoes.
@@greymatters7039 trump for prison 2024
@@mortonbeard2240 what the hell is wrong with you?
@@PrezVeto Absolutely nothing.
@@mortonbeard2240 Someone who randomly says "Trump for prison" in this thread has a problem.
Just one supervisor could have stopped this idiocy.
Wrong. A supervisor in Tennessee can't just change the Real ID requirements. It's federal law.
@TheJayhawker83 no but he can reissue his state drivers license 😮
This happens a lot
Employee wanting to play heavy weight
@@TheJayhawker83
How many IDs are necessary to validate an individual that lived here for decades
This has been a money making scheme from the start
Ridiculous!!
@@TheJayhawker83 Curious why TN and not other states? I’ve searched and can not find another state having issues dealing with the Federal Real ID requirements.
This is shameful.
Yes it is but this is what the governments in red states do. I’m surprised they didn’t throw him in the local lockup for falsifying state paperwork.
more to come...his mistake was applying for that "REAL I.D.", just one more piece of sh!t law from a bloated bureaucracy that cannot function except by constraint of people
Yes, it's shameful he never applied for his US Citizenship.
@@boink800Why would he? He was the child of 2 US citizens. He had US citizenship from the moment he was born.
@@boink800 dumb , aintcha
Using 9/11 as an excuse is disgusting.
Tell me about it.
Right ! I cussed out loud and threw the tool I was using…. Bastards.
Had no issue when they used it to attack places for oil..
i mean i dont see how it couldnt be a fact due to tsa presence went up apperently
@@abigailandino6251😊
He is a veteran with papers. This was a ridiculous!
🤬That is total BS! The Canadian birth certificate shows both parents US citizens. That is sufficient to prove he is a US citizen unless he has ever renounced it. This is an outrage against a hardworking US VETERAN!
Yeah but a Canadian birth certificate is NOT one of the 8 documents used to verify your citizenship. Military service does NOT get you US Citizenship. maybe it should but it doesn't. This guy has prospered off living in the US collecting benefits and all, a waste of the peoples tax dollars.
It is an outrage. But it is also our law.
His parents would’ve needed to apply for US citizenship ship for him.
Even worse Federal law says you just need to be a permanent resident to get a real ID DL
This was a law Trump wanted. You can thank him. This is one of the few things I agree with Trump on, too bad he can't act like an adult.
The governor should issue him an apology
I’d be calling the governor, state legislators. This is unacceptable.
And anyone else in the same boat
its not the gov.... its the state....
The governor is the chief executive of the state of Tennessee . If the bureaucracy he is in charge of has a problem ... it is his responsibility to fix it .
In this case , it looks like a clerk at the DMV needs some help figuring some things out regarding state compliance with the REAL ID Act that originated in Washington, D.C. 😶🌫️
@@Freedom_Half_Off I agree 100%!
Tennessee revoked his license because they say he isn’t an American. Four years in the Navy. Drove truck all his life, receives
Social security. What a joke this country has become!
@pattyevans3701 He doesn't have his US Citizenship Certificate. End of story
Thanks Tennessee
But that state will give a license to all the illegals out there but not this man who served this country , America is now a shit whole country and the joke of the world
End of story! For sure! If you sheeple would stop cow towing to these bureaucrats and come to know your rights under the Constitution, you would discover the right to travel on roads that are paid for with your gas taxes is a right not a privilege. You continue to allow the government to force you to register your personal automobile as a Motor Vehicle. The only authority given to the government( both State and Federal) is to regulate commerce. The legal definition of a Motor Vehicle is a convaence of commerce. The only authority they have is to regulate those that are using the roads for commerce. It’s been proven in more than dozens of court cases. Oh! But I don’t want to be hassled by cops all the time! Grow a pair, stand up for your rights! Wake up sleepy, lazy, sheep!
MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL INVADERS here and they want to pick on this old man who has worked and paid taxes to the state and Fed Gov't
Dear Sir, As a veteran of the USMC Under the Department of the Navy I salute you for your service. Thank you for being a great American citizen And an honorable person. May GOD be your ally and redeem your standing before the court of man.
Sue the state for lost wages, trauma, defamation, etc…
You generally have no standing, meaning you can't sue.
He’s retired. He’s not losing any wages.
Also, the state is not liable if they are acting in good faith.
How about the intencional racist declaration?
@@reynaldolopez9221 At what point did someone claim racism?
@@Pub2k4it’s not good faith legally if you have a kid with your American wife In Canada you Techinally get Duel citizenship In Canada and The USA ! I was born Detroit USA 🇺🇸 then moved to Windsor then Toronto and I can still legally go to USA no issue
This is Criminal!! somebody needs to be held accountable!!
Why? He never applied for his US Citizenship. Where is his US Citizenship Certificate?
Bush 2 2005... go git him.
Bureaucrats and businesses in the UK have a saying when made to apologise for harming people; "lessons have been learned". Then they carry right on and it keeps happening
How about HIM?
It sounds to me like some very small-minded insecure little person is using their tiny little bit of power in a very abusive and malicious way.
NOPE this is the tRUMP master plan! You don't look right, born here or not your OUT!!
I think that’s exactly what happened.
In other words, conservatism. "Immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country!" What do people THINK that means? Somehow only the brown people will be impacted?
that's all there IS in Tennessee.
Or someone is actually FOLLOWING THE LAW (to the letter, optics be damned). What the Vet needs is something else, maybe from the federal level, something that proves he's Naturalized (in part because of his time living here or because of his service time). Let's hope that politics work, now that this is a story, now...
My uncle went to the same thing when he was stationed in Germany when his youngest daughter was born. He/US Embassy had to fight with the German/Government to declare my niece was an American Citizen and NOT a German Citizen. After about 6 months of this just before he was to come back to the US, the German government dissolved his daughter's German Birth Certificate and finally gave my uncle his daughter's US born birth certificate.
Should have been issued dual citizenship.
Yep. That’s exactly what happens all the time.
No Germany doesn't give citizenship to children born to foreigner
Ignorance of some bureaucrats is astounding
Is it all ignorance or partly something else as well? - no moral conscious either. This makes my heart ache, literally.
This is insane He is a Veteran and receives SSI and VA benefits they consider him a citizen
They are cracking down on Whites....Whites are not part of the Diversity Equity and Inclusion club. If he were an illegal immigrant from Hondurus, Venuzuala, or Mexico no problem. Or perhaps he was denighed because he didn't belong to the Tran de Aragua street gang breaking laws in N.Y.
Show proof of voting in national presidential elections. (Supposedly) only allowed by those with US citizenship.
SSA not SSI
Wrong. You do not have to be a citizen to receive VA or SS benefits. Non-citizens may serve in the miltary.
What's insane are the replies which in their own cleverness, seem to support the actions of the state. This is why the country is a mess. More interested in correcting something insubstantial than fixing the problem at hand. No one was under oath here. Geez.
Deplorable. Our veterans shouldn't have to go through this.
Anyone working for any form of bureaucracy is the ones who are not an American citizen this is such.. BS
Anyone "is the ones?" C'mon, Dwight. His parents didn't file for the proper paperwork (Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA). He can get the correct form and move on.
This is beyond crazy. My son was born in Italy, I was in the military, so he had dual citizenship. He needs to go higher than that commissioner.
This is how much our country hates immigrants. Trump will have this guy deported.
That poor US VETERAN 😮 and this late in his life, how CRUEL! PLEASE keep us up to date on this story.
Sorry, that's just the way it is. Our dear leader said "Immigrants are poisoning the blood of this nation!" Tennessee is as red as they come, and they are acting like trump is already dictator.
No, he should be deported immediately.
@@alexander1902 On what evidence?
Serving in the navy should have been enough. If the Fed's say he is, He Is. Sounding like a civil rights violation.
you don't have to be a citizen to be in the military.
Trump deported hundreds of servicemen who were promised citizenship, and deported service persons spouses.
You also do not need to be a citizen to serve in the military being a lawful permanent resident with a green card is sufficient
This “real id” scam is a god damn joke
It's a scam to disenfrachise voters who might not vote republican.
I agree that it is even a bigger problem for women who have been married several times.
I tell anybody who will listen if they have a passport(or get it) to opt out of Real ID and just maintain the standard DL. Its absurd the amount of information they want simply to drive a car. The "more convenient and secure" the government makes things the less secure and private your day to day life is. A real ID DL has a full set of fingerprints, home address etc etc thats on the license as well as coded on the barcodes and/or rfid ...and it only works for domestic flights. Passport proves citizenship, gets you in/out the country, requires no other documents to prove identity and someone couldnt obtain anything more than name birthday and state you lived when it was issued even if you handed it to them. I get a kick out of times when some dingus says they dont accept passport for something
Shameful way to treat a veteran!
He is not a citizen and illegally voted all his life. He should be jailed and deported, ignorance of his status in the US is no excuse.
He's an illegal
Shameful way to treat any U.S. citizen veteran or not
It is beyond shameful, it's downright disrespectful. To treat a US Citizen and an honored veteran this way.... Damm, bureaucratic communists.
@@digitalshooter2905 On this 4th of July, I respectfully respond with veterans come first....what with the sacrifice and all. 🇺🇸
Im a navy vet myself this makes my blood boil, if the feds say he a citizen he is.
that's not true, this is to weed out terrorists these new ID's his parents likely messed up with paperwork. Canadian birth certificate means nothing in the USA.
Not federal , State of Tennessee!
@@charlie63-p2u Individual states don't decide who is a citizen. That's reserved as one of the “enumerated powers” in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution.
And this is what happens when you vote in maga into office... total incompetence and stupidity.
The TN DMV is notorious for customer assistance... This man IS a citizen, he EARNED it..
He was born it.
But he was born in Canada. He's a dreamer. Trump threw many people like him out country, but if they are brown it's ok
(15) “United States” means- (A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C) an instrumentality of the United States.
(18)“United States citizen” means (A) any individual who is a citizen of the United States by law, birth, or naturalization; (B) any Federal, State, or local government in the United States, or any entity of any such government; or (C) any corporation, partnership, association, or other entity, organized or existing under the laws of the United States, or of any State, which has as its president or other executive officer and as its chairman of the board of directors, or holder of similar office, an individual who is a United States citizen and which has no more of its directors who are not United States citizens than constitute a minority of the number required for a quorum necessary to conduct the business of the board.
(Pub. L. 96-320, § 3, Aug. 3, 1980, 94 Stat. 975; Pub. L. 98-623, title VI, § 602(a)(2), (e)(7), Nov. 8, 1984, 98 Stat. 3410, 3412.)
VETERANS. Help him out PLEASE 😮
This man is a sincere and kind man. How can this be so messed up?!
Recently, another senior veteran was denied Social Security benefits for the same reason. How do you all of a sudden not be a citizen?
I remember him he had the Trump flag hanging on his house 😅😅😅
Especially with these people being Veterans. People who serve get their citizenship.
@@angelabowman1072 And what's your point?
@@createinmeacleanheartohgod6871 "Immigrants are poisoning the blood of our nation!"
What did you THINK trump meant by that? Are you learning a lesson today?
@@angelabowman1072 This isn't happening under Trumps leadership. It's happening under Biden's leadership. The tyrant that tried to force a drug on every human in the USA regardless of age, pregnancy, or health status in 2020. I'll NEVER forget that! I'll NEVER forgive it. He was probably targeted by the tyrant because of his Trump flag.
IT IS CALLED A LAWSUIT!! Sue the freaking state already for a few million instead of putting up with it.
Nope, not a cirizen
@@charliegruchy530 Access to the courts doesn't require citizenship. From the 14th Amendment: "...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law..." Note the use of the word "person", not "citizen". "Citizen" is used in other places in the same section of the same amendment to describe other rights, so those who wrote the amendment clearly knew the difference and used "person" in this case. That said... The state enjoys sovereign immunity, and doesn't have to permit you to sue it.
Good luck trying to sue the state in the state’s own court. His lawyer would take years to do the job while milking the elderly man for all he has.
@@charliegruchy530 troll
@@charliegruchy530 LMAO! Stupid beyond belief. He is recognized a citizen by federal authority. That has been established. It is the state that is denying his status.
What a slap in the face to a US veteran
He's an illegal
Imagine the implications for all of the illegal immigrants who have lived here (illegally) their whole lives. This is a tactic . . I don't know how this will play out but, I can tell you, this will be used to outrage the population so as to pass laws granting citizenship to all of those illegal immigrants that have poured into the country recently. I guarantee it.
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
It's actually happening a lot. This is actually a paperwork issue something wasn't filed correctly. It's happened in Florida and Texas.
If the law is good for everyone else then it's good and valid for this guy too. Follow the law.
I don't see nor have I heard of any illegal immigrants having to go through this. This is absolutely absurd.
Bullseye 🎯, and meanwhile they are getting the red carpet treatment. This is ridiculous
Unless you live in a red state, which Tennessee is. It’s where people go to have their rights stripped away.
Tennessee should be ashamed. How disgusting.
I'm sure that he pays taxes in that sh*t hole state, keeping it all up and running.
@@curtmiller6484Tennessee is not a shit hole state. Best state by far right now for taxes, low property taxes and no state taxes.
They did the right thing since he is illegal immigrant. I stand with Tennesse.
Real-ID needs to be rescinded.
@@cu7204 If your parents are citizens you automatically are granted a US citizenship. Learn the law before post ignorant replies.
I had a co-worker at the Univ of Cal who had the same thing happen. When he went to get a passport to visit his dying mother in the Philippians, he was told he was not a citizen. His naval military record had been lost and he had no proof he had served. After wrangling with the navy with no luck, he contacted his Congressman and Senator. They were able to clear his record and secure his citizenship. Sadly his mother had already died.
7/7/24: Philippines.
Dd214. How come they. Did not look it up.
@@denniskumabe734 a lot of VA records (including military discharges) were lost in a fire in 1973. They can figure out if someone was a veteran, but it takes time, energy, and a lot of focus to do that.
Been there done that….. the DD214 is not sufficient to prove citizenship under the Homeland Security Act.
😞
OMG! This was my uncle's exact story, and he had to go through the VA to prove he was a U.S. Citizen! AND my uncle served in the Navy! Go to the VA!!
This is awful to know that a man who has lived here and served our country is treated this way. I am a born Tennessee resident and I am ashamed of our state.
Stop. The real ID is a federal program that every state has to comply with. You might want to be ashamed of Tennessee's School system which reports a proficiency rate of less than 40%. Now that's really shameful.
Great job Tennessee gov’t! Great way to treat our Veterans that gave you the freedom that allows you to exercise your stupidity and still keep a government job. Absolutely inexcusable.
Ted Cruz was born in Canada, his mum was born in the US and his dad was born in Cuba !!
Yet he can run for President???
This is outrageous and I really feel for this poor man!!
100% correct. Send Cruz back to Cuba.
Well, anyone can run for president we have one who's a felon an adjudicated criminal. Then there's Ted Cruz! There you have it, it's a stupid country!
So let me get this straight... Scumbag "Cancun cruz" is born in Canada and serve in Congress but this True PATRIOT Veteran cannot obtain a simple TN license... WTF is this country coming to?
exactly
@@junehanzawa5165
Imagine if next time Ted Cruz heads off to Cancun when Texas is in the middle of electical supply problems and blackouts ... immigration just do not let him back in ...
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!
The state should pay back all those taxes he payed over the years. With interest.
Good idea.
Then they will take his disability payments
if only
None citizens still have to pay taxes. You people sound stupid. If you are a resident of the USA, you still pay taxes.
Why would they do that? He would've owed them even if he were in the country illegally the whole time.
Absolutely UNBELIEVABLE!
A disgrace to Tennessee State Government
It’s a USA act and the Joke biden administration.
It seemed to me, their commissioner wasn’t phased in the least.
It's a federal law since 9/11
@@createinmeacleanheartohgod6871 Wrong. Watch the video again. Good ol' conservative values, showing their worth once again...
@@BigKandRtv So, liberal state values showing worth once again. I am a naturalized citizen who went thru honest process and so does him who was born in Canada and came to the US when he was a child who had stupid parents who didn't apply him for citizenship when they became naturalized thinking that it would be automatic for him to become a citizen. Liberalism is impedement to intellectual capacity to use. The problem with this man is he cannot accept the fact that he is not a citizen. As per video, all his DL from liberal States were "temporary" with different codes. Then TN busted him when he applied for the "real one" because all he got from other different states were for "non-citizen" DL. He could not provide citizenship as a requirement for the "real ID". When i applied for my DL, i had to bring my "naturalized citizenship certificate" given after the oath taking. He should have that "certiticate" if his parents applied him for citizenship or would have the record with Immigration office. Liberal mentality lacks common sense like you. All liberal mentality wants are short cuts process in everything.
The man needs to hire a lawyer to sue the state.
sue familyfeudalcommunism?
how?
@@mrowyug5844 just hire an immigration attorney who will go over your concerns, paperwork and he will proceed on your behalf to resolve the situation. Pretty simple to hire a lawyer. You can find them online or the yellow pages, which is a phone book.
But MILLIONS of illegal migrants here, living off the benefits this man helped give us all….is ok????
INVESTIGATE THIS!
FIX THIS NOW!!!
Sue in federal court. Denial of due process. Slam dunk. Lots of penalties for the people involved as well.
All that effort to take away a Navy veterans drivers license yet they cannot manage to house a single homeless veteran. It makes me sick!
Well said!!!
Exactly! These kinda people only use their perceived power to screw people not help them.
Tennessee is special.
Give one of your spare rooms to a homeless vet, feel good about it and then, somehow, connect it to a veteran who doesn't have the proper forms for a REAL DL. Good job, George.
The state isn't the bad guy. You have to provide proof of citizenship or legal residency for real id. It looks like his parents just never reported the birth aboard.
If you are born aboard(Canada here), your parents have to submit a "Consular Report of Birth Abroad" which shows you got citizenship at birth. At which point you will be issued a US birth certificate. This was true when he was born. If this was not done then you must submit an application with your foreign birth certificate and proof of citizenship for your parents(you can request their birth certificate). This isn't to give you citizenship which you got through your parents but to get proof of citizenship and it won't take years.
This exactly. Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon making a big deal of this but it's clearly spelled out in the documentation for the Real ID. Now, the state is crap for pulling his regular DL, which his current birth certificate would be plenty for.
Horrible!!! The man served his country, and this is how WE repay him!?!???
now hez treated like any island nation under us-rule...... good enough to serve & fight, but not good enough to vote!
Be deporting him on a first class plane ticket
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
If you think this is shocking, just wait until you find out what happened to an abundance of soldiers who had higher concentrations of melanin in their skin.
And before anybody decides to open their mouth: military family here, on BOTH sides.
@@mho...people this is Tennessee...being slow comes natural.😄
i am from Tennessee, and this is just one of many examples of the ignorance prevailing in our state.
So, Tennessee thinks that if a US soldier is stationed overseas with their family, and they have a baby while there, that the child isn't a US citizen? Wrong!
Doesn’t matter what anybody thinks, the law requires documentation which his parents should’ve obtained but didn’t for whatever reason.
According to Tennessee law. In fact, according to Tennessee law, if he had been born in Paris while his parents were on vacation there, he is not a citizen. It's ridiculous that Tennessee thinks it's puny state law supersedes federal law and the constitution.
@@nunyabiznez6381 Tennessee has no say in US citizenship. That's up to the fed. And federal law supersedes state law.
At most, Tennessee could refuse to recognize his residency in that state, but even that likely wouldn't stand up in court if challenged.
My sister was born overseas from my US citizen parents. And yes she is a US CITIZEN . just like this man!
Any other color is a citizen in this country
His parents failed to register his birth aboard at a U.S. consulate or Embassy. He is a US Citizen, he just has no proof. All he has to do is apply for a Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-600) with INS.
Frankly, I’m surprised the news station didn’t do their due diligence to report that. It’s not difficult and we did that all the time when I was stationed abroad
It's sad that a person who has gone above and beyond for the USA isn't given even a minimum of due diligence by us.
@@b.dailey3180They deported brown illegals for the same thing. He is still here.
Agreed, except INS doesn't exist anymore. USCIS is now the relevant agency for that. It all got reorganized after 9/11 when DHS was created.
Like everyone else who is born outside of the US has to do. Finally, a reasonable comment. Thanks Bob.
Shame on the Tennessee government.
governmental cartel
governmental cartel veterans
threaten to sue them unless they applogize on National T.V.
Not really, they just want proof from the US government that he is citizen, non citizens can serve in the military.....right now local government are requiring the federal government to determine citizenship, they are not relying on their interpretation of the Federal law anymore.....his case is easy to rectify, he needs to apply for Certificate of Citizenship(N600) from the USCIS pay the fee about 1500 with the required supporting documentations, it takes about a year or unless he request an expedited review due to a hardship........or if the agency understands Federal law and recognize him as a citizen.....this is not unusual, they are people being denied social security too because they cannot prove being a US citizen even when they worked here for 40 years ...... Agencies do not want to determine who is a citizen anymore based on the law they want the federal government to do it....this happens at lot especially with Canadians, since they can travel into the US and stay unlimited......
What?! I want to thank him for his service, and say shame on you Tennessee.
It’s dam shame a man who served our country is treated like that.
he needs to identify as hispanic
Any law enforcement officer that would ticket or arrest this guy for driving should be ashamed of themselves
You don’t have to be a citizen to get a driver’s license. Absolute BS. Shame on Tennessee.
You do for real ID.
Each state is different……Anyone who is not a U.S. Citizen or Lawful Permanent Resident will not qualify for the issuance of a driver license or identification only license.
@@jeanenehinton-ds8xf but they revoked his regular license
@@TrueOrigins1618 I think it expired which is why he was renewing it. Anyway, this is pure ignorance and incompetence on their part. I know a man who was born in Puerto Rico who had the same problem here in South Carolina. He couldn't convince the DMV that Puerto Ricans are U.S. Citizens, and they would not accept his birth certificate.
@@TrueOrigins1618 his regular license? All stars with very few exceptions have gone to Real lD for driver's license.
My son was born in Germany, and we had to register him with the U.S. Embassy. That document is his American birth certificate.
The document you get from the Embassy is a "Report of Birth Abroad." Then when needed for ID, you show both your foreign birth certificate and your Report of Birth Abroad. Sounds like this guy never got a Report of Birth Abroad which can likely be quickly fixed by his US representative.
That's only been since sometime in the 70's, though. This poor elderly man was born before that procedure was in place. Before that your parents being US citizens was enough.
Super bad optics for those overseeing this in Tennessee. I'm glad the media is calling them out for being truly heartless over something so trivial.
It’s not trivial, it’s federal law and it’s unambiguous
@@Neberheim state motor vehicles are now federal?
It's one thing to niggle over the Real ID, it's yet another to take someone's license and revoke it without cause, regardless of his having other state operators licenses, which de facto then overrules the US Constitution's faith and credit clause and effectively overrules the entirety of the US Constitution.
Cut off every federal cent to the state, no federal agencies or services at all, not even for the Guard until they restore his rights as a US citizen.
This is what project 2025 would have the right to do to ANY US citizen!!! It's really scary 😮😮😢😢. I hope that things change for him soon.
You know how miserable you must be if you are messing with a man who served in the military and has lived here 70 plus years!
He is a citizen PERIOD!
Just like how those people brought to this country by their parents should be allowed to be citizens, right?
@@veroniquebellamy4741the INA provides a path to citizenship for noncitizen veterans. So, if they’ve served our country, as this man did, they should certainly have a path to citizenship. In this situation,, however, both of his parents were U.S. citizens… making him a U.S. citizen, with or without his service.
@@veroniquebellamy4741 if you were trying to prove a point, you didn’t do a good job.🤦🏾♂️
@@fredgalloway5809 - You’re right, we should deport all illegal immigrants, we’ll start with this dude.
LAws is LAws, especially when someone had licenses in Communist States like NY, NH, & VT.
This is DISGRACEFUL! Where are the damn politicians? This man has served our country! How dare they do this to him?!?!?
Taking money from our VETS to give to the illegal immigrants 😡
Our country is more worried about illegals than they are about legal American citizens living in this country.
This is the third video in a row I’ve watched like this!
They are going to do this to everyone until the people say they've had enough.
This man served Israel's interests and those if a small wealthy elite.
Fixed it for ya
There's a Marine Corps veteran in Florida who served just after the Gulf War ended and spent years in the Corps, now his state is saying that he isn't a US citizen. He was a green card immigrant recruited with the promise that he would be given citizenship and now the state is saying that because he didn't serve during a "war time" he is not entitled to automatic citizenship. Even though his service would have overlapped 9/11 and OIF/OEF which was a war time period. Same situation too. Had a state driver's license for years and then all the sudden the state says they can't renew it cause he isn't a US citizen and has to apply for it.
But I know illegals that get licenses…. Wtf Tennessee?????????????
as a LPR(green card holder) doesnt make him a USC. Did he do the paper work to become a naturalized USC?
@@Izinpland ,
In this case it doesn't matter that he's not a citizen__if he has a GC they cannot refuse him a DL. 😛
If he has a US Passport it is a mute point anyway. According to the TSA and DHS websites...you DO NOT need a "Real ID" as long as you have a PASSPORT.
TN DMV neglects to inform the public of this fact.
The TN DMV even list a "Passport" as one of the documents to have to get their "Real ID".
And that Commissioner needs to look at the Actual law for a "Real ID". He us clueless as to the Act and the law.
DMV is on a Power trip.
I am disgusted by this.
They always taught us growing up in school that if you had American parents, even if you were born somewhere else you still had American citizenship. It's the by blood law.
@BizznessBox That is how it works though.
you have to get paperwork filled out to formalize it. you don't just show up and get a cheeseburger and a high five.
@@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames I know but I figured his parents would have taken care of that. If they didn't then why isn't anyone directing him to the paperwork he needs?
That's why Trump's lies about Obama were so ridiculous; no matter where he was born, he's the son of an American mother, so he has always been American.
@@leorobin832 It should have been taken care of a very long time ago and so as a result this is the kind of thing you need a lawyer to know to do, typically. The original slip up happened with his parents, however it happened. It's a super shitty situation to be in and it'll take a lot to fix.
I feel like we're walking into a trap with a lot of our lack of education. We have a whole structure built around us to care for us and make sure that things go smoothly, but we've become so complacent and lazy that we don't attend to making sure that we're doing what's needed to keep the gears turning and are losing this knowledge of how to run the bureaucracy machine.
The comment section calling it a malicious clerk hurt my feelings, that's me!! I'm not malicious, I'm trying to keep my job :'(
I'm tired of 9-11 being blamed for licenses and security....
Thank you its been how long and they are still using 9 11 as an excuse
He's an illegal
Me too. And now we we can add COVID to the list of Government excuses to take away our liberties and freedoms. Wait till you have to deal with ineptness of IdME to log into Gov web sites.
Why are you tired of 9-11 being blamed for security procedures that were put in place because of the events that took place on 9-11? Do you think we don't need those procedures anymore since it was 20-years ago? Maybe you are just disappointed that 20-years after 9-11 we are still finding people in this country who may not be here legally?
@@markreynolds9888It's pretty obvious they aren’t saying there shouldn't be security, but that claiming 9/11 is the reason for things like this is nonsense.
My godfather came from the UK with his parents, lived his entire life here, ran several successful medium size businesses, paid into the system...when he retired, in his later 70s,, it was discovered that, technically, he wasn't a citizen!
The bureaucracy actually did it's job and all he had to do was fill out a single declaration form and all was well.
The local MP actually requested to come to his home personally with the form to fill out.
But that was years ago.
Today, they'd likely try to exhume his body and deport the remains...as he is not part of the Didn't Earn It demographics.
Just awful! I was born in Puerto Rico and when I went to register to vote at 18, the clerk told me that I would have to make my US citizenship. It took two weeks to resolve the issue. There is no excuse for what has happened to this man! Disgraceful, just disgrace!
Didn't you tell the dumbass clerk that Puerto Rico is a territory of the US and therefore you are a citizen of the US? How do we have so many dumb people in positions of responsibilty?
This is different, your clerk was uninformed, this one is following the law correctly.
@@Neberheim NO, the clerk is WRONG. Read the law retard!
You had a clerk that was an idiot. He had a clerk that was either a willful idiot or just plain scofflaw.
Puerto Rico was and remains a US territory, hence anyone born there is a US citizen. Canada is decidedly not a US territory or possession and more decidedly is a foreign nation and ally of the US. Despite our invading them twice.
@@Neberheim How is this one following the law correctly you Russian troll? He's a US citizen, this clerk just saw Canada on the birth certificate and didn't even read the content of it.. Of course not issuing a REAL ID because it technically isn't a US birth certificate is the part the clerk followed correctly, but what the clerk did afterwards of claiming he isn't a US citizen and taking away his residency in the state. IS the part of the law he did not follow correctly, also cancelling his license is also part of what he did incorrect. You truly do not understand nuisance or you are a bot.
This just happened to my husband as well. Born in Scotland to US military dad and American born mom. Served in the military 20+ years and held high security clearance. Has had a drivers license in Massachusetts, South Carolina, and Arizona. We moved to Mississippi, and he went to get his new driver's license and was told he's not a U.S. citizen. He, too, was told that he would need to apply for citizenship. In doing so, one of the requirements he would need to bring in his parents. My husband is 65 😂 Needless to say, he did get his drivers license. He just went to another location.
Weird that this keeps happening in red states.
He needs to sue the State, right straight to the Supreme Court.
That take money.
@@debbiemontgomery8874 You can't got straight to the supreme court. And they have to agree to hear your case. You have to start at the bottom and appeal your way up.
They Republican they dont care
seriously at his age even if he is not a citizen just give it to him
People need to be fired! This is shameful!
State senators need to get off lazy butts and help him. My dad was a veteran. His dad was American, his mom Canadian, he was American. Tennessee is a bunch of hicks
And the U.S. Government is FOREIGN. They're showing you the difference between a 14th Amendment Citizen (Susan B. Anthony), and An American. Remember, The U.S. Government is D.C., and represents a CORPORATION. States Contract with D.C. and The Fed, along with all of D.C.'s insular possessions. Other than that... it's a free for all. 🫡
Why? Citizenship is a federal prerogative. State senators don't have any special privilege with the federal government. Now, if he contacted his federal congressman or senator I bet they would give him all of the information he would need to get his US citizenship documented. And, as a veteran myself, I don't think the laws don't apply to me just because I'm a veteran. Though I do like the little perks like discounts, close parking spaces, getting to cut in line, etc. 🙂
Hes an illegal. Send him back to Mexico I say!!!
Tennessee is too busy banning books and trans people to deal with this.
This happens to far more people than you can imagine. Some consular puke fails to file the right paperwork and some poor kid of active duty personnel who is born overseas is left in limbo.
We discovered my oldest daughter wasn’t registered as an American properly when we were trying to enroll her in school. It took 12 years, three different lawyers, the intervention of a US Senator and tens of thousands of dollars to fix it. And when our own consulate asks for a copy of her passport photos AND the $75 “processing fee” for the 17th time, you start to figure out why our immigration system is so intentionally broken and corrupt. Unfortunately my wife was killed in a car accident before she was able to witness our daughter being confirmed as an American citizen. The one thing I have advised her to never do is to ever serve in the military overseas.
Well, just don't have kids while overseas.
@@benwagner5089 Military personnel is usually at child-rearing age. So you propose to close all US bases abroad?
Well you could argue for that, but citizenship of soldier's children does not seem a good argument.
@@thiloreichelt4199 No, I'm saying to use protection if you're going to play in the gene pool.
Sorry about the loss of your wife, this is outrageous. I’m in a similar situation. Wrong paper work filed as a young child and I am now paying the price for it- I am technically a stateless individual.
This is so sad that a tax payer citizen and military veteran is being accused of being an illegal who has served and lived here over 50 years.
Do you know more about this story? Who accused him of being illegal? Since this is a local story I only know what I saw in this video and no on accused him of being illegal.
Ridiculous! To treat a Citizen who served his country in this manner is a travesty. Shame on the state of Tennessee!!!
Why are you surprised? Why don't you do a little research and see how many Hispanic soldiers have been deported after serving this country in our military? You would be appalled.
Blame trump
@@D4L_457I agree that this is wrong , but how is it Trump's fault? The Real ID Act is a federal law that became effective in 2008. The State of Tennessee enacted it for their state in 2019.
@jannloderhose4816 just ignore it these are people or bots that can't help themselves but blame everything on Trump I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried to pin slavery before the civil war on him yet lol
Considering all of the freebies that illegals get this is shameful! 😡
Disgusting. And it starts. What do they want him to do? He could become another homeless vet treated like shit. Shameful beyond belief. Shame on them. Shame.
And now they can arrest you for being homeless too!
The Supreme Court just made homelessness a crime.
@@charleselphinstone6714luckily shoplifting and robbery are still not considered crimes.
That's true in some places but you can pull a smash n grab in a store and get the keys to the city. Weird country we're living in presently.
Deport him? We deport similar veterans all the time.
All the things that are now commonplace to register a child as a US citizen when they’re born in another country were not in place when this man was born! Those of you who are saying it is easy, we’re not born in the 1940s and have no understanding how much life has changed since then. That is the major issue here. Rather than telling him he is not a US citizen, his home state should be telling him what he needs to do to resolve this issue. Shame on the bureaucrats from his home state who should be looking after him.
Those bureaucrats have deliberately created a situation that makes it impossible for his citizenship to be recognized despite the irrefutable proof of his citizenship. he needs to take Tennessee to court and sue not just to get just compensation but to also get his vote retroactively counted in this up coming election and if it comes down to one vote it should be his and I don't know his political party but there it is.
Nah man, I've seen the documents that they used back then. Someone knew what needed to be done. It will not be easy for him to complete it, but there is a process and there was one in 1940, too.
I do agree that they should be telling him what needs to be done, but they probably don't know. They're county clerks with associates degrees for the most part.
The only thing that’s changed is now you can submit the form online. Everything else is pretty much the same.
The new license is a joke. I have lived in my county in the same house for 25 years. Renewed my license, and paid taxes in same county for all those years. Went to the DMV to get the new ID, and they had my record there in there computer. They told me I had to bring in bills with my name, and other papers to prove I have been in the US. Even though I was born in IL. I told them it was unbelievable.
Okay if he’s not a citizen give his tax dollars back. These bureaucrats and politicians are career criminals
Are you going to vote to give the money back to all undocumented immigrants who pay taxes but aren’t eligible to vote or get SS benefits?
@@MaryBailey-i3x nah just the ones who served honorably. I gave 10 years how many years did you serve?
Taxes are based on his earnings in the US, not his nationality or legal status.
this is malicious persecution
I didn't hear anything malicious.
@@michaelmott8161 because you're a "useful idiot", otherwise referred to as a, "sheep".
@@michaelmott8161 because you're deaf
Denying a VET who served in the US Navy citizenship yet electing a president who dodged the armed services on five seperate occasions is madness.
Let me guess. Orange man bad right! But you never batted an eye at odumba’s citizenship.
@@jessehansen10so stupid. Go elect your convicted Fellom and rapist.
@@jessehansen10 let me guess you’re happy with grab em by the pussy. If you can’t see that’s bad that says everything anyone needs to know.
Or having a President born in Kenya!!!
@@sheilagoddard2199 exactly. The lame stream media considers that to be Russian disinformation.
Use it. As an illegal immigrant you're entitled to a whole bunch of free benefits.
Yup, a classic comment from a self proclaimed redneck.
TN, shame on you for treating this US veteran like this.
The same thing happened to my brother. He was born in Canada but moved to U.S. when he was 2. Both my parents became U.S. citizens while he was little. The U.S. Department of State says if one parent becomes a U.S. citizen before a child is 18, that child is recognized as a U.S. citizen as well. He never had a problem for 50 years and then when applying for a new job, he was rejected because he “wasn’t a U.S. citizen.” That man should apply for a U.S. passport, which he will be granted as long as nothing else is wrong, and that document will give him the ability to fly AND prove citizenship to the department of motor vehicles.
It was incredibly difficult for me to get a real ID without a passport due to a past marriage & divorce. I got a passport and then went and got a real ID to fix the problem.
@@ashleycisper-cox3672 After my passport expired, I didn't want to renew it because I'm in my seventies. I had a real ID in Florida, but when I moved to SC, they wouldn't accept it, because my birth certificate had a different spelling for my middle name. I was born in Boston and so were my parents. However, for over 70 years I spelled my middle name Gail. Guess my parents never noticed it was spelled Gale on the birth certificate. It was a mess, but I got my license if I agreed to use the spelling on my birth certificate. So my driver's license, registration, title, and the deed to my home show "Gale." But my old passport, Social Security and Medicare cards all use Gail.
If your parents became naturalised American citizens, your brother should have been given a Certificate of Citizenship - I had one myself, as my parents became US citizens when I was a minor.
@@frankhooper7871 Both my brothers were born in Canada and neither received a certificate of citizenship when my parents became citizens. That was back in the early 50s. My other brother joined the army when he was 18 and never had a problem, but he also always had a passport as an adult. And as a recent retiree from a job where I was a passport accepting agent, in recent years when people from other countries became American citizens, they would immediately apply for U.S. passports for themselves and all their minor children and all the children were accepted as U.S. citizens with just their foreign birth certificates to show who their parents are and their parents new citizenship papers. Once one agency of the government verifies citizenship, the other agencies accept them as citizens without making them prove it again and again.
So why doesn’t the news know that or the DMV or the commissioner guy? These people are useless. Hopefully he figures this out
There is no local, state or federal government agency quite as insanely stupid and totally incompetent as a department of motor vehicles.
WELL, I WOULD SAY THE A.T.F. IS A CLOSE RUNNER UP. BUT YES, THE D.M.V CAN MESS YOUR LIFE UP ROYALY!
There is! Take a drive thru Commifornia! The EPA is worse
It's their own form that's discriminating against people that were born out of country. Granted, it's a small percentage of the population, but the CRBA (Consular Report of Birth Abroad) isn't listed as being an accepted form at the DMV.
I agree. The thing is you don't have to have the real time IID on your license, a person can use a US Passport ( it does not have to be a US passport) if you have one for flying. And the Real Time ID does not start until May 2025. They keep on pushing the date back.
When my 16-year-old nephew went to turn in his learner's permit and take the driver's test. He was told he couldn't because he had a DUI. At 15. Turns out someone in a court clerk's office transpose two digits and it turns out that carrying a passenger at 15 is one digit off from a DUI code section. He never should have been suspended much less had a DUI.
Even after we went to the court clerk got them to fix it and send that to the state along with the letter stating what had happened. They still made him pay $30 to reinstate the licensing ever had before he could take the test
I’m glad the State is doing this. This prevents illegals from driving and voting. However, this is an exception that needs to be implemented!
After 9/11??? ARE YOU KIDDING???!!! That response was completely BS
How many illegals in our country are driving, getting aid and can’t speak English?
@@realitywave Denying him an enhanced license under homeland security rules is one thing. Revoking his existing license is completely another! I can't speak for Tennessee, but in most states you do not have to prove citizenship to get a driver's license, only legal residency.
@@realitywave sadder but true is what America has become and it's undoing is called ..divided.
@@frugalaudio Should not deny an enhanced ID, when the fucking scum coming across the border will get these licenses, do not give this stupid country an inch, this is why this country is shit.
@@realitywave Where does it say if you don't have the documents for the B.S. "real ID" means they revoke your regular drivers license & strip you of your citizenship?
Still milking 9/11 as an excuse to treat someone like crap? 9/11 was 23 freaking years ago!!!
Gotta keep people scared and convinced they need all the military funding to stop terrorism
The law was passed for Real ID, you voted for it.
It's a coward's response.
It was an inside job too.
@@12time12 NO. the ID law was passed by Congress and signed by President Bush
My husband went through this when he applied for Social Security. He was born in Germany and his family came to the US when he was 14 months old at that time they were all went through and were able to become us citizens. But SSA wanted a birth certificate which in Germany the church kept them but most of them burnt down. He fought in Vietnam and his DD214 said he was a US citizen we got a congressman involved and yes he had to become a US citizen again but the congressman excelerated the process either way it took almost two years. Veterans especially should not be treated like this at all.
It is a lot more common than people realize it is a result of voter photo ID and the close-the-border hysteria. It's a case of be careful what you wish for. A similar thing happened to me except I was born in Canada and at the time the SS office didn't accept birth certificates as proof of anything. So I had to track down my CROBA.
@@gailgregory95 yes. If he was under 18 years of age when his parents became US citizens, he automatically becomes a citizen and doesn’t have to do anything but claim it. His parents take their certificates to SS and have their kids status changed from permanent resident to citizen. However, if he wants a passport he needs his parents Certificate of Naturalization and his birth certificate to prove he is a citizen. He can also file a N-600 application for his own certificate of citizenship so he has proof - it’s like a new birth certificate for children of parents who naturalize. Parents automatically get a certificate, but their newly naturalized kids get nothing. So I encourage all my clients who gain their citizenship to apply for certificates for their kids who are born overseas but who become naturalized when their parents do.
This is despicable and beyond acceptable!