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- Since the start of Putin's invasion in Ukraine, thousands of Russian men and families have fled, the majority escaping Russia’s military draft. Many are making their way to Mexico where they spend weeks on end waiting to enter the United States and claim asylum.
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She left her daughter but she doesn't look sad what a mother she is God bless the child😢
The saddest part of this is only people with money can escape
Intern those are the same people that enabled the current Russian regime and putin.
Not really a person can walk can they not. A man or woman can easily walk across the Russian border. In eastern Russia theres the city of Blagoveshchensk Its 1 km across from heibe and when ur in heibe u take a bus to mongolia . Its easy .
@@ThePhantom712 you'd have to apply for a biometric passport first. then get to the border. have funds to stay afloat abroad for quite some time. all of it costs money & takes time and not everyone can afford it. in september, all plane & train ticket prices skyrocketed because most were sold out (idk about now). people had to travel by car for thousands of kms and stay in traffic for days before the opportunity to actually cross the border. so yeah, only the privileged and desperate ones could leave the country.
It's a matter of wishes. For example, 1-bedroom apartment in Moscow costs 150 000$, it's enough to buy an airplane ticket and book hotels. A poor man from small cities can take a credit to buy tickets.
@@laincoubert7236 Privilege this privilege that. Wealth comes from smart work, not "privilege" as poors like you seem to love to use to convince yourself because you haven't done anything in life.
That last look the woman gives the camera as she crosses the border is so subtly incredible. Getting a Russian to smile at all is difficult, but you can see the relief glowing from her.
Belize central america I'm from and i agree totally !! Powerful
Where she was I cross that same path almost everyday as I’m a local. It’s weird how they didn’t show the tent city full of kids from Central American countries only a few feet south of where they were getting their paperwork checked. I would know I donate what I can to those people directly when I can.
@@ballsofobsidian5642 You have a good heart. Being from Houston, I have had professors that told me what life was like in Brownsville. Just crossing the border and having ties to both countries. I would do the same if I had the same opportunity. ❤
@@ballsofobsidian5642do they turn people back?
Sadly, considering how Putin chased out
well over a Half a Million and Counting(+)
of its Best and Brightest because they
can't bear to take part in his psychopathic
murderous bent of their good & beautiful
neighbor, unfortunately, the future looks
bleak for the elder and incapacitated
Russia in the near future - until at least
one or two generations after Putin's end.
Good thing Mexico is reaching out to help, even with their own struggles. God bless all of them, Russians, ukranians and all alike
Wait until they behaving badly like they did in thailand and bali,,
Mexico for decades back has always taken in refugees.
I am Russian born serving in the United States Army and I'm so proud of my fellow Russians taking the harrowing task of immigrating to the US just how I did many many years ago.
Sorry, but replacing one Imperialist military for another isn't anything to be proud of. We human beings of planet earth should stop fighting for any Imperialist force, and only fight for the liberation of the citizens of earth to free themselves from Imperialists and their yoke. Look at the pain and misery the US military has unleashed since its inception. It's not anything to be proud of any more than being part of the Russian Federation military apparatus.
@@eveningchaos1 He's serving the lesser of two evils, give him a break. And if it weren't for the U.S., Ukraine would have been conquered & her people would have been genocided by now.
@@eveningchaos1 You use this word 'imperialist' often when its people you don't like yet when it's the Soviets crushing the Czechs or the Chinese invading Tibet to create your 'utopia', crickets from you.
Traitor
@@eveningchaos1 go live in China then and stfu.
Sergei man thats a tough one I wanna give that guy a hug. He didn’t want to fight people who did nothing to him so he had to go thousands of miles away God my heart feels for bro.
Yes, I'm so grateful to Russians who aren't participating in Putin's bloodbath! I wish only the best for them.
Uh, no. He was fine with Putin, the invasion, Russia against the west. Then he became a draft dodger. You don't find that suspicious? And the country he came to? The one his country sees as the enemy. Not friendly China, Turkey..no the US. You don't find that suspicious?
Can u help him inside U.S.A sir ...can u help him pick him up there at the border..I also really feel pity for him ..I really ..we don't know f he still have money fir now..when I look this man I feel the struggle of him..I hope he can find a job there 😊
Well i can show sympathy for him but for the rest nah, should have stayed in their country and fight for their freedom
@@Slycarlo but I think to do that is they need to unite..f they really show all out..they need to full the space or the red square or even their road ..I their leader had no really mercy towards them
Imagine this happening in your country... this is the other tragedy of war, all the people on the aggressor side who just wanted to live in peace. I'm glad Vice is covering this side too.
i always think Russian is the agressor in this war then i met one Crimean he told me east Ukraine wanted to join Russia for decade it was Ukraine oppress them such as banned any Russian language in media and school
@@iamhardwell2844troll
@@iamhardwell2844 This is a misleading & FALSE statement that Russian-supporters in Ukraine will say. Russian was never banned in media & schools in Ukraine. Many Ukrainians (including myself) speak fluent Russian & indulge in Russian media. I also know plenty of eastern Ukrainians who do not associate themselves with Russia. This is Russian propaganda from within Ukrainian borders. If someone is unhappy with their way of life in Ukraine & want to join the Russian Federation (where they have no toilets, no plumbing, barely any money, communism, etc.) then they should move across the border to Russia & not support a bloody war. This is how Russian war supporters manipulate the media & spread false information.
@@iamhardwell2844 okay even if this is true, its just one guy. they didn't and still don't want to join.
common russian L
A lot of people are saying the USA is evil. How come it’s always their first choice to run to when they are in trouble.
Exactly! They talk so badly about the USA and us Americans until it’s convenient for them to try take advantage and mooch off our resources.
Free money and a wide open border.
Movado. Exactly!!!
One of the major Reasons is Money of course , but look how many different people are living in the US , the US is different in this matter an artificial construct , there will always be a Migrant group hierarchy , so there is also an atmosphere or thinking that you can change the regime into something that benefits you and your People , this is why there are so many Lobbyists . I mean what is America or being an American anyway , it's just the biggest company in the world , and the management can be replaced .
Its not cowardice, some people are just not comfortable killing other human beings for the government.
Most don't care as long as it benefits them
They should March against the Kremlin.
Literally zero normal russians will ever get forcibly drafted, and even if they magically did they can go live visa-free 365 days in Georgia where the living standards are better than 90% of Europe anyways. These guys are economic migrants, nothing more.
Interesting how many in the comments are saying poor Russians and bla bla. They are white! When Haitians or Venezuelans come most of ya’ll say go back! The racism and bias is ridiculous!
@@Zooma2127 45 percent of immigrants reported their race as single-race White, 27 percent as Asian, 10 percent as Black, and 15 percent as some other rac
I'm happy Vice is actually doing this indepth on the ground reporting again
Yes. So we know who to ban. Keep these Russians tf out of America!
about time
Theyve been doing it for many years...
@@dsnooz What do you mean? They never stopped, look through the videos on this channel.
@@damienholland8103 they sucked for a number of years
As a Mexican we love all people and hope better for them
We undertook this journey as a family a year ago. Now, more than ever, my family and I understand the feelings of these people. It's indescribable; it's a nightmare. It's difficult to convey the path one must now take to get from Russia to the USA. In terms of stress, it's comparable only to the death of a loved one.
My wife and I, both medical professionals, lost everything: good jobs, a business, our standing. We had to leave everything behind for the sake of saving our child's life and our own. Since 2014, we haven't supported the current regime in Russia,but the opposition itself is weak and fragmented in this country. Before the war, remnants of the opposition were simply exterminated, and expressing one's opinion was dangerous. Now, you can end up in prison for several years for a drawing or a poster with a couple of words. I don't believe that anything will change in Russia, even when the bloodthirsty monster Putin dies. There won't be democracy in this country for a very long time, and it will never be safe here.
I'm glad that everyone who can and wants to is fleeing. Usually, these people are capable, hardworking, and intelligent.They are incredibly resilient psychologically because going through this path now is already a feat. Russia doesn't need these people; let them contribute to civilized countries like the USA. Good luck to them!"
Russia really do be making the US and Mexico sound like better countries than their own
It doesn't just sound like it, they are better
As famous Russia saying go "Скатертью дорога" Meaning good luck, and don`t return.
Because they are. Even Mexico is miles above Russia.
Russia cries about cancel culture but will kill you for saying the wrong things.
It all depends on who you are and when we're talking. Obviously during the 100s of years of slavery, a black man in the US was about as close as you're going to get to hell on earth.
My cousin was one of those people. Except from Belarus and not Russia. Even getting to the border is incredibly hard. Mexican police is everywhere along the route. She was apprehended by the US Border Patrol immediately after crossing the border. Soon she will be going to immigration court for a hearing on political asylum where the judge will determine if her case is valid or not.
Prayers they let her stay and dont send her back!!💗
@@lilyj0000 shell stay, its really easy to get political asylum in america. Good luck to her
Sucks don't it!?!
Best of luck to her
She will most likely get it .
God bless them, I hope they find peace and happiness here, and this conflict ends soon.
"Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free."
Humbling to think that, in this time of cynicism, these words still ring true for so many. And that they were originally penned by a woman who advocated for refugees fleeing persecution by the Tsars.
Best of luck to the Russians leaving behind everything they know to avoid serving in this unjust war.
The US is a corrupt, dying country. We are no longer “free”, nor do we owe the world anything.
We are also bankrupt.
I support them as long as they are truly anti Putin, and aren't just fleeing not to get drafted and still passively supporting the war. We've seen too many of those cases in Germany.
@@itz_angel8618stand with blacks
They're not anti-Putin. Putin won the last election with more than 77% of the vote on the promise of Restoring the glory of the old Russian Empire. They wanted this war and then ran like cowards when they found out they may be forced to serve. Send them all home where they belong.
@@itz_angel8618Vete para Russia wey🤦🏽♀️
@@itz_angel8618 luckily they don’t 😂 and even if they did, they can’t do anything to help the em 😂
@@itz_angel8618 Russian & Mexican governments letting Narcos run wild & free in their country 🤝
Living in Mexico, and not the USA, is great, too. The Mexican people are warm and welcoming. There is plenty of opportunity here, so if the USA turns out be unattainable, don't hesitate to put down roots in Mexico.
Not knowing a lick of Spanish is not gonna help them in Mexico and plus the locals are know to rob u if they know ur a foreigner .
As a white person that's probably not a good idea.
It’s in their history to get along with their neighbors. Lmfao.
Reminds me of when Leon Trotsky fled and hid in Mexico, only to be killed by a Russian assasin with an ice pick.
Yes stay in Mexico! The USA is full
Gracias queridos paisanos por ayudar a estas personas 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇺🇸🇺🇸
🇲🇽🇲🇽🇷🇺🇷🇺
*Either they stay alive, or they go to the front line for no reason, where you'd be required to kill people who did nothing bad to you, and potentially return in a coffin.*
Terrible, but powerful statement. My heart goes out to the Russians who've had to flee their country and leave their whole way of life behind, all because they don't want to fight and die in a madman's war.
They voted for their government. And they have been humiliating Ukrainians for ages.
@@tanyaa8852 While this is true, this does not take away from their suffering. It is not easy having to leave your country and your language, your whole life behind. These folks are being painted as outlaws, and traitors by their nations people and government, because they don’t want to fight and die in what they know is an unjust, illegal, disgusting war. They can’t go back to their homes and families because they’ll more than likely be tossed into a prison and then be force fed into the meat grinder right after. It’s horrible and although Ukrainians suffer under bombs and missiles destroying their nation, we should not give in to blind nationalistic hate just because these folks are Russian. They never chose to be born Russian and they didn’t choose this war.
"Either they stay alive, or they go to the front line for no reason, where you'd be required to kill people who did nothing bad to you, and potentially return in a coffin."
Pretty much sums up the whole of Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq 2003 invasions. The only thing different about this conflict is the aggressor actually the "bad" guy and not a supposed "good" guy.
Here's a crazy idea.
How about your don't vote in a tyrant for 25 years.
Reap what you sow.
that isn't true at all, Ukrainians have been killing Russians in Ukraine for years.
Thank you for sharing
Man, that is tough. Thanks Vice for covering this.
Belize central america I'm from and prayers for Ukraine and the good Russian who's against the war!! Respect to Mexico for assisting them all!! United we stand divide we fall!!! One love and respect always!!!✌🏽🙏🌎🌍✨
Some of the best vacations I've ever had were in your beautiful country, y'all are incredibly kind and fun to hang out with. Long live 🇧🇿! (from 🇺🇸❤️).
Russians get away from Mexico oh wait it's the safest country to stay or maybe if the cartels don't get u lol
The Mexicans never do anything for refugees. Thank the United States. Look at home many refugees the Mexican state takes its pathetic. And discussing!! I hope the Mexican government remembers one day they also signed the Vienna convention.
Lol heres the thing Belize was Guatemalan territory y'all split and it's the same for Putin who wants Ukraine back after they split but we all know none of that will happen. Same with Taiwan and China they want it back but it wont happen.
Oh shut up..
journalist is really focused on how "long" the trip is. it's one or two plane rides. that's not "long" anymore. these people arent walking across siberia and swimming to alaska. they are flying to cancun.
I actually felt their excitement crossing over into the US. God bless Ukraine, God bless the people of Russia.
Dont be naive, they just using situation to live in USA.
Wait until they behaving badly like they did in thailand and bali,,
Living in a country with stability is becoming harder.
@@resistdisinformation9931 is there any chances of conditions will get worse for any cities or rural area towns. Many people from rural or towns might migrant to urban cities, increasing the costs of living and there is a chance of crime rate going up. Climate change has created various problems
@@resistdisinformation9931 I think 3 million is a low number.
I'm in Southern California. I am old Russian
As a mexican ima be honest idk how much better your gonna find here in mexico bro but best of luck to anyone fleeing the war
Better than Russia. Russia is poorer than Mexico. Crime and drugs are about the same. Gracias a ustedes Mexicanos que respetan los migrantes mejor que mi Pais.
@ Victor TE recomiendo su canal rusosreaccionan
Mexico always opens doors for anyone who needs help it’s just how we are and we’re raised 🤷🏻♂️
great reporting, more stories like this please, thanks. 👍
Wow. Tks for sharing
I hope to see an update for the couple. And I really admire the fact that they help other people who are also experience this
I hope they 'll get deported
@@militaryarchive4840 why?
They've just escaped from being drafted and want to have a nice life in the USA. This Russian lady won't be drafted. They are probably supporters of putin like 80% russians. Trust me, they will be ok
@@militaryarchive4840 I agree with you , they are spies sent by KGB
@@militaryarchive4840 I hope your back always itches in a spot you can never reach
About a month ago I was in McAllen, TX, a small city just across the border from Reynosa, MX. As I was preparing to leave my motel, I encountered a group of Russians (about a dozen) who were staying in the same motel. About an hour later I saw them again at the Greyhound bus station. I talked to them a bit, but they didn't speak much English and I didn't want to appear nosy. I hope they are doing well.
They are doing great now that they're there you can trust me on that one
I hope they took their dirty ass across the border to Mexico
They've just escaped from being drafted and want to have a nice life in the USA. They are ok dude, probably putin supporters...
They are probably spies sent by KGB
In a couple of months, they will again be proud russians 😖 Just wait and see. Referendums are coming up in a town near you 🫡
Great journalism. Thank you
Thanks to Vice News and Paola Ramos for this report. I haven't seen this reported elsewhere.
My condolences for Ukrainians and Russians affected by this war.
And Mexicans by the cartels
So far Putin has sacrificed roughly 150K of his own countrymen, he's really winning.
The russian way of life and mentality enabled Putin's rule for decades and they have history of feeling as the superior slav nations, it's not just the leader, it's the nation. Now, they don't want to lose lives and want to leave. Most of them did nothing for years and now cry. People in the west still don't understand that vast majority of russians are not victims of Putin regime, he is a product of the russian nature.
Please do not put Ukrainians and russians in one sentence with the same connotation. russians affected by the war are not victims they are silent mules afraid to fight for their rights. Unlike Ukrainians.
This war can be stopped if Putin simply retreats it’s army,,, unprovoked war for no reason
Let’s be honest 🤔 Russians would NEVER greet Brown and Black people into their country the way these Mexicans have. The hospitality and food they are providing. Priceless.
So, do two wrongs make a right? You sound vile
Brown and Black people would not want to go to Russia in the first place lmao.
Why are you claiming that bro? You have examples of racism in Russia?
@@TheBuildTeam that's actually not true lol. there are and always have been black & brown people coming to moscow, i assume mostly to study in college. i regularly see people of all non-white shades on my college campus or in my neighborhood, so jokes on you hon.
@@jacobverner321 well, it is true that russia is a pretty racist country, not just towards black people & asians, but actually mostly towards caucasian ethnicities and central asian immigrants.
GREAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU.💯
This was a wonderful report. Thank you so much ☺️
Mexico its getting alot of people from Africa, India, Haití,China, Venezuela, Middle East, and Russia. Now its really getting multi cultural there.
It always has been.
@@myrandomtantrum No it hasn't. At least not in the last few centuries. The wave of migration Mexico has been experiencing hasn't been seen in a long, LONG time.
@@myrandomtantrum different type of multi cultural...all from people trying to get to the USA. Crazy
Mexican don't need Africans ! 🇺🇲🇮🇹🇲🇽
@@user71285 yes it has, immigrants have always used Mexico to enter the USA, it has only made international news due to the caravans 🤣 you obviously not Mexican. The only Latinos for example that use their boats to get to the USA are Cubans....
This will truly be Russia's lost generation
After the devastation they faced in ww2 & the collapse of the SU, this is another lost generation. Not *the* lost generation.
I'm not shocked anymore if the number of Russian Americans will spike in recent years. They will have larger contribution in US demographics
An excellent thoughtful presentation.
Wait.....he won't fight for Russia .... and if he were to cross will he fight for USA against Russia if asked to ? I think he should stay in Mexico
An important point. Lots of these people are not against the war in Ukraine. They simply don’t want to be drafted.
Enlist
Great point. Sounds incredibly hypocritical, and you’d think that’d be untrue being that they are coming to Russia’s “rival” country but I believe it. Typical these days from people: “It’s okay as long as it’s not happening to me”
Yes , 100%!
Precisely. They flood social media platforms with pro-Putler propaganda, and inflict stunningly cruel insults to Ukrainian victims of these horrific and barbaric crimes, and even fundraise to send support to the brutal Ruzzian aggressors, all from the comfort and safety of other countries... Those same other countries they openly berate, but who live freely precisely BECAUSE of the bravery and sacrifice of those who fought, suffered, and died for it.
@@GraV21 You don't have to be against the war to apply for asylum. There are other reasons as well.
So happy VICE is back to their roots. Legit reporting with outstanding journalists and teams.
Back? When did they ever stop doing this
that's the difference between Vice, and Vice News. Vice News has always been great
@@nolsyAU What's wrong with Vice?
@@xyphoon5013 they hate it when vice reports on anything that paints America in a bad light, but love it when they paint other countries in a bad light.
@@ent1311 Lmao it really seems so, I was hoping they'd give me a straight answer but you're spot on. I keep seeing this stuff and it's always people who like VICE when it's about war in some far away place but dislike it when it deals with things that they don't deem important
My heart aches, this is really sad
Good ish Vice, with all the misinformation I get from these bigger tv networks which I dont rely on anymore I am glad I can go here and keep up with current events and not high school drama
I LOVE Vice great reporting across the board
Vice is such a great channel, have been a fan since before the beginning of your groundbreaking organization, enough about me, thanks again to the team at Vice!
It would be great if you could do a follow up of this couple, their son, and the adjustment to the United States.
Im glad these people were able to escape that nightmare.
Thanks again, Vice, for doing these reports.
I would’ve left too. That situation is so fucked up over there. 😢
@@hopefuldawn3380 why
@@hopefuldawn3380 so are you living in russia
@@hopefuldawn3380 ok at first i guess you live in russia, i'm sorry sir
Theres like 3-4 people that wanted the war at max, its such a shame to see so many people hurt like this
Thank you VICE News
God Bless that brave young man, and all the good souls who refused to fight Putin's War.
Brave to flee like rats? If they were brave, they would’ve stayed behind and fought their regime that is killing the innocent. Ukrainian men are brave, russian are just opportunists
Did Putin just call defectors assholes? That's tough talk there
It's only a peak of the mountain. Speaker of state duma asked to annex, I mean, seize property of those who left country. They also wanted to deprive us of russian citizenship which isn't even possible by the constitution but did they ever care about it?
It's just his tiny-man syndrome lashing out
" _That's tough talk there_ "
Gangsta talk.
He called them what comes out of your rectum.
Great reporting.....!
I will always remember you, your face and your reasons for what you are doing my man. you will be remembered even if you pass in a way not normal.
Mexico needs to take advantage of this situation and not for selfish reasons. For one, many cultures and nationalities are "stranded" along the border. Look at what the Haitians are doing in Tijuana. They are setting up their Little Haiti's with prosperous small businesses, helping out the local economy, heck there's even Asian communities in Mexicali and by Monterrey. Not just that, but it would be a rich cultural hodgepodge of various nationalities just in Mexico. Little Haiti's, Chinatowns and Koreatowns next to Russian Orthodox churches in Mexico, not only would it be a economic and human capital enrichment, but a cultural one as well. Imagine the possibilities....🤔🤔🤔
Long history of immigration to Mexico...Germans, Lebanese...
Mexico has always been incredibly diverse throughout its existence. Most Americans think Mexico is homogenous, but nothing could be further from the truth.
Yea but the putin would claim Mexico is oppressing russians and try to annex that territory. This is literally why many countries ban russians from entering. Before the Baltic countries joined NATO, putin was shipping homeless and prostitutes to either Latvian or Lithuanian towns in order to then claim it as russia. They es done it in Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine (that’s why they kidnapped Ukrainian children)
They could even sing songs and hold hands together? What’s stopping this ? Is it the wind ?
Let's have that here in the USA. Make America rich instead.
Love your stories
Heartbreaking
I know a couple of Russians who made it to Thailand and are in the process of trying to get Visas to come to the US. There are a few routes still open it seems.
Bienvenidos a México Ucranianos y Rusos, y toda la gente que necesite refugio en nuestro País. Alto a la guerra.
Mexico is the new beacon of freedom in the world. Viva Mexico 🇲🇽I🇲🇽🇲🇽
They don't really stay there though.
@@artieboyokay1255ES MEXİCO AGAİNST AMERİCAN İNVADERS RESPECT MEXİCO AND MEXİCAN PEOPLE TOOO!!!!.
@federicoortiz1041 You are a good person. God Bless you.
Muchas gracias!
People really be thinking Mexico is a super dangerous place to be, and that´s not true. We´ve always kept our borders opened to migrants from all over the world and we do our best to give them food, shelter and cover their basic needs. A lot of migrants wait here until they´re cleared to enter the USA but many others choose to start a new life here!
Yes, we have our issues with insecurtiy mainly due to cartels supplying the huge demand of drugs from the USA but if your´re not involved with ilicit activities it´s rare you will get harmed in any way while being here.
I see what your getting at but no it is really dangerous to be in Mexico, the chance of something bad happening to you is exponentially higher if your not from mexico because you are more likely to be taken advantage of because you don’t know the terrain or culture. Im just going of pure statistics & statistically Mexico is a war zone crippled by corrupt officials. 95% of my family lives in Mexico & i remember when i was 11 we could no longer visit them because mexico had become way too dangerous even just to visit ( mind you my entire family is Mexican people & not foreigners ) im 21 for reference. Not trying to rude to you, i do see your point but i just have to highly disagree.
Delusional.
@@Sam-mw1to I am mexican living in México and although i agree with almost everything you said it is also true that your reality is not the same for everyone in Mexico, not everywhere in Mexico is as dangerous, and not everyone experience the sames dangers.
@@Sam-mw1to your family probably lived in a dangerous area to start with. I grew up in the US. Came to Mexico to finish HS and college. I've never seen cartel violence where I live, central mexico. That's the thing people don't realize sure it's dangerous as hell in some areas/states but some are really safe. Some are in between. Really depends.
Northern states is where most of the cartel violence you hear on the news comes from. Even Mexicans find out about it from the news.
@@Sam-mw1to I also get what you´re saying, I want to clarify I´m not saying you can just come to Mexico as a foreigner and have no worries. But in this video they´re showing mainly people who have the the means to get in the country legally and can afford safe transportation and shelter so their situation es very different from irregular migrants forced to remain in Mexico.
I would like to know your sources on Mexico being like warzone. I´ve lived in Mexico my entire life and I´ve never faced any kind of threat (not even a non violent robbery).
In the end I just don´t like seeing misinformation about Mexico just being lawless land.
спасибо за выпуск!
I don't feel sorry for these people. they are just cowards
I live in Placer County in Northern California. There are a lot of Russians and Ukrainians here, and in nearby Antelope Ca. I am sure many will make it here.
Yeah an change the demographic of the country. This isn't a good thing. Seems you need to learn something about History. This is part of the commie plan. Belarus Lukashenko was threatening to let migrants into Europe to destroy it.
Those who flee for temporary security deserve no freedom.
Benjamin Franklin.
@@Misael8924 Those who flee for temporary security deserve no freedom? Why in hell do you think so many people have immigrated here, for over 200 years? Are you some Trump supporter? Are you one of those conservatives, that would be in a state prison, if not for some liberal? The Russians and Ukrainians I know and work with are good people. Are there some sketchy ones? Sure! But I have seen plenty of trash from other groups. Change the demographic? It's already happened. As far as history is concerned, plenty of immigrants and sons of immigrants have fought for our country. In the Vietnam War, there were many in Special Forces that were of Eastern European descent. Either they or their parents fled Europe. By the way, plenty of Hispanics have distinguished themselves in battle fighting for the United States.
@@McDago100 That's Right. Benjamin Franklin knew what he said with that quote. Learn History. Seems you lack common History an ignorant of reality. Mass migration is a Warfare tactic. Lukashenko is trying to do the same to Poland. Freedom isn't free !! Many people died having that Freedom !
When other's Leach of the system and the Taxpayers money because they Refuse to Fight yet take advantage from another land's is despicable ! Also, they are not all Good people. Do you know their Heart's and Intentions ? I gerantee they'll be saying the same thing if the Shoe was in their court. Like Turkey.
Many people are hypocrit's. I've studied Philosophy an the Act of warfare for years an know who is pulling the strings ! There's a limit to everything dummy. Why don't you house 4 families and pay their way in your House then. This is a new wave of Demographics which also are coming from an enemy State. And ever Demographic is not the same.
Also, I was speaking about the Russians mostly. Not Ukrainians.. And no, stupido ' I'm not a Trump supporter. F** out of here with s !
Oh great
They've just escaped from being drafted and want to have a nice life in the USA. They will be ok, you can be sure. Lots of them are supporters of putin, they are pretty problematic. Greetings from Europe.
Would really like to see a followup of russian lives here in the US after they've made it, and what we're doing to help them and how their living conditions are ect..
As soon as they get their green card they'll be anti immigration esp brown. I've seen this with Hungarians in Arizona.
Better not, there are security issues, they just want to stay in a democratic country, and that is good.
They gonna go back to Russia after realizing the USA is more dangerous than Russia, and we have war zone/shootouts in nearly every major city in the US.
yes!
Yes indeed
this was an amazing piece there’s plenty of foreign nationals in Tijuana Baja California too…just hard to find them if they’re in hotels which are expensive to stay in at their daily rates, over $1500 a month
It’s a real shame and pathetic of that horrible POS to do this to his Russian citizens and it amazes me how many people support him still! I’m really happy for the couple that made it into the US and I hope their lives improve. At least they’re safe now and I hope they’re able to get their son into the US as soon as possible. It does help that he speaks a little English since he’s coming into the US it will make it a little easier! Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
Ok “Karen”
That's crazy how the couple said they left his son and her daughter. My mom would sacrifice herself before abandoning us.
Their actions speak volumes. To betray his country and his own children in order to save his life, which was a hypothetical threat.
Exactly. They just left their wives & children & fled. Sound like some great guys.
They said the sons studying right now, and plan to have him come over after. Possibly they can’t be drafted when at university? Also I undersatsnd studying for years and wanting to risk to complete it vs leaving and losing all that hard work
Riiiight! Seriously, that is NOT a "man" at all! You know they are going to suffer ALL of his consequences he should been getting!
@@samanthav8728 I was referring to the couple that said he left a son and she left a daughter not just the men. Like that woman left her daughter I can understand son more but that’s crazy
It's surprising that the interviewed Russian held the belief that the US can't force citizens to mobilize. The last US draft ended in 1973. About 50 years ago. It's entirely possible for the US to enact another draft.
yep but if you are ain't us citizen and live in us then there is no problem for you
they cant mobilize russian citizens
The draft is still there, but it would only be utilized in only the most desperate circumstances.
Technically speaking, the law allowing a draft is still in effect... BUT that is only for US citizens and when it is absolutely necessary. What happened in the Vietnam War is why the US moved away from the draft and focused instead of being a volunteer-only military...
The U.S. military moved away from a conscription force after Vietnam because of the various issues that come from it. That's why it's a highly professional, all volunteer force nowadays. The U.S. government will never institute a draft for a war like Vietnam again because doing so is literally politcal suicide. The only time a draft could be initiated is if the Russo-Ukrainian war escalates further, or if China invades Taiwan, both of which are events that I think will cause an increase in volunteer numbers, so the draft may not be fully necessary.
I have friends from Russia who are currently in Armenia. Two took their teenage sons with them. They didn't think the war would end before their sons became of draft age. The Russian guy interviewed for this clip should've taken his 21-year old son with him.
Maybe circumstances didn't allow for it, or his son didn't want to leave.
Thank you Vice for covering responsible truthful news.
Poor Russians, they are running away from the war they themselves started. We do not currently see Russians protesting against the bloody regime, but we see many Russians in long queues at the border to leave the country. These adult men and women lived peacefully in Russia while their fellow citizens killed, tortured and raped people in Ukraine, and when the war touched them, they immediately fled the country and declared themselves refugees. A friend of mine, who was 18, had always wanted to visit Mexico. He was killed by the Russians in Kherson (Ukrainian city that was occupied by Russians for several months).
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I am with you.
They were comfortable.
They didn’t care. Until got spooked for their own destinies.
This flight is not for ideas of not wanting to kill. They don’t want to be killed. But they don’t care if Ukrainians are being killed, raped, tortured, kidnapped, made be “Russian”.
I can’t help to despise these people presenting themselves as refugees, having enough money to bring themselves and bring their rains and daughters when the time is convenient (son needs to finish school).
Oh my…. Poor boy….
@@ArtU4All Russia doesn’t work in any way like the way you seem to be implying. Russia is not a western democracy where one can protest on the streets and not be convicted of crimes against the state.
Secondly, yes all of them are migrants, what some of them may not be though is refugees.
Thirdly, what do you expect them to do for Ukraine, they can’t even stop their own government, what power do you think these people have that makes them liable for Putin’s actions in starting and sustaining the war.
Fourth there is nothing wrong with caring about your own life and future over the lives of others unless of course your actions are actively harming others in some capacity.
@@ArtU4All Thank you very much for your support ♥️. I wish there were more people like you in the world. It is very unpleasant to see how Ukrainians and Russians are equated in some media, how these media are constantly trying to make us "brotherly nations" suffering from Putin's war. But it is not Putin alone who launches missiles and bombards Ukrainian cities. It's not Putin alone who did that all horrible things in Ukraine.
I work with a lot of people that have family in Ukraine, or have fled too Moldova. These people do hate Russian people, as the Russian government is who to blame. As Americans, and country founded in protest, we take certain things for granted. Russians did protest early on, and ended up jailed.
The war dates back to 2014 neo nazi Ukrainians were bombing pro Russian Ukrainians it wasn’t till a year ago Russia stepped in, there are things that lead up to war… same could be said about The US we didn’t just go to war in the Middle East to fight terrorism but b/c of something else oil 🦅
Contributed again. Thanks for the story.
With the GQP being aligned with Putin's Russia, contemplating the worst case "if's" gets a bit scary...
great content VICE.
The amount of approving and rejoicing comments of ordinary Russians under videos of the atrocities done to civilians in Ukraine were no less a shock for Ukrainians than the war itself.
We have somehow got used to the war, but the realization of who we have been living next to all this time, without even knowing it, is still terrifying.
It's terrifying for everyone. The delusional fantasizers in this comment section, as well as who made this ridiculous fluff video, completely ignore the reality of these "ordinary" people. They tell themselves they are being kind-hearted, but the very opposite is true. Their naïve and cowardly delusion only further enables the incredible barbarity inflicted by Ruzzia onto the world.
You mean you never heard gringos happy about their crimes on Afghanistan? Man where you've been all this time
The couple that was accepted at the us border i feel happy for them its like a new start, new beginnings. All the best to you love and support from hongkong 🇨🇳
Hello Sun, I felt so horrible when Hong Kong was swallowed by the CCP and knew that it would mean such great hardship for Chinese People to live under the weight of a Communist Society. Peace and Hope for you from the USA wishing all Communist Countries flounder under the will of the people to live peacefully. I wish travel to the USA for all Chinese who only want to live a peaceful life are able to one day come and go as they wish. I wonder if the CCP will use similar tactics for inscription to their military of Chinese citizens since it is so well known that the CCP is looking to conquer Taiwan. How many will die in that next war. These Communist Regimes are such a poison to humanity. Peace to you Sun.
My god! That it is not me! I am so desperately sad for these people - having to flee their homes - because of one mad man.
traitors are not sorry!
The 36 y/o policeman was more than happy to do his “policing duties” and oppress protesters but when it was his time to put his ass on the line he fled. Very nice of the father to leave his 21 y/o son back in russia, 😂
The hypocrisy. This isn’t even mentioning that he took part in the major crackdowns on descent.
Of course he would, Russians care only about themselves
You have no idea what he's been through. Or, why he had to leave his son back home. Didn't you also notice the fact that she also left her daughter behind? Try judging people less.
@@polishherowitoldpilecki5521 absolutely, without a doubt he was cracking skulls with glee. I don’t think there is any hope for russia anymore. I just watched a documentary on 4 Ukrainian civilians (bartender, mechanic, taxi driver, 18 y/o student) who became resistance fighters in Kherson. It would be understandable for the 4 Ukrainians to flee but they stayed and fought until their city was free, and then you have these 3 russians, ugh!
Btw, I don’t know if you really are from Poland, but I had the pleasure of working with the Polish army in a military exercise back in 2017. Your troops are outstanding🇺🇦 🇵🇱 🇺🇸
@@DjAdam16 you are right that does say a lot about what a shitty mother she is as well, thanks
What kind of man abandons their wife and children to dodge a draft? #Pathetic
So currently Istanbul, Turkiye 🇹🇷 is their gateway out because Turkish Airlines now flies, several times a week, non-stop to Mexico City.
I can imagine how crazy it would be living in a Country that’s at War.😢
I wish people could see this perspective
@@kayahbrown4346 Remember though, Most Russians support this war, even when they have found out Ukrainians are being murdered, tortured etc. Yes there are innocent ones and this video highlights that issue well but the whole Russian population is not innocent. They like the German's In WW2 (I know not ALL people, the population as a whole) stood by and let genocide happen. I understand and sympathize with the ones who do not support murdering Ukrainians, the ones who just don't want to die but are ok with killing Ukrainians do not deserve our support in my book. This may seem heartless but I have seen too much of their war crimes in Ukraine.
@@kristinwallace6551You don't know how the Russians think,you don't know their thoughts about this. I guess you haven't spoke with any of them,you're just repeating the media narrative about the Russia,about the Russians like 90% of the people. Russians are against the war because it's a trouble for them,for their country,for their future,but they support,they must support their army,their soldiers,their people in Ukraine,just like you support your people,your army,your country. It's called patriotism! The Americans were supporting their army during the US invasions in Afghanistan and Iraq (despite many war crimes) the Israelis are supporting their army in their war against the Palestinian civilians,Palestinian people,and the Russians have also the right to support their army. And you're talking just about the Russian war crimes. Do you know that the Ukrainians are also responsible for many war crimes?
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Well said. 💐🇺🇦🎵🎶⚖️🇺🇦
@@aerisskyler Some are against the war because they don't want to fight and die, not because they actually care about Ukrainian lives. Many Americans did not support the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. Russia has a long history of war crimes, and they intentionally target civilians. They make it easy to see, because they film their war crimes. And no the Ukrainians as a whole do not participate in war crimes as they are above that and they know they won't get aid if they do so. If you support Russia, you support genocide. Period. No whataboutism.
Another impressive piece of real journalism from Vice. Thank you Vice.
Afterlife in 19th level of hell is all back to yourself. There is never escape....
@@twks123 Wow, far out, man..that was some really heavy stuff. And it was prretty deep too. Basically, it was deeply heavy, man. Right on. So, are you like some kinda prophet or something?
this is old news. theres thousands of russians and ukranians in southern california. they were given priority over others to come through our borders. Vice didnt touch on any of that how theyre given so much priviledge.
My heart goes out to them and I wish them only the best
They should stay and fight Putin with the Ukrainis. They have made him everyone else's problem.
There is actually now a precedent for drafting students who are studying. More accurately, 3 major nationalistic universities have started requiring new students to sign a document of consent, which allows the government to draft them upon graduation. The cannot sign up without signing the document, and will not graduate without being conscripted. The Universities are Novosibirsk State Pedagogical University, Tomsk Polytechnic University, and Tomsk State Pedagogical University.
Isn't there also a new law being made that requires students to study for six years instead of four?
Don't let them confuse you: they're not against the war, they're just afraid to die in Ukraine. It's okay for them to support the terror as long as they're not in the frontlines.
Fighting aged males seeking asylum with their motherland's enemy, what could go wrong?
They looked so happy when they made it 👍👍
Some questions I still have: Were any of the Russians speaking out on camera afraid for the safety of their family back in Russia? Also curious if they personally knew anyone who was drafted into the Russian military- there were reports that certain provinces or demographics had more drafts. And I guess this is beyond the scope of the piece but how strict is the vetting process for Russians crossing into the US and is it different than the US process for other nationalities?
as a russian, i'd say it's not as bad as north korea, especially considering vice isn't a well known media source in russia. like, there is a possibility your relatives could get into trouble if they work for the government or something, but i really doubt that's actually happening. siloviki like to monitor russian socials after all: vk, russian twitter, russian youtube etc.
From what exactly are Russian nationals running away?
Men from the caucasus were being drafted at a higher rate.
@@RicoClout28 you're wrong. They are one of the provinces that stoped drafting first. Most draft were done in rural areas of Russia.
@@Andreus9733 why did they pick rural areas?
Paola Ramos is one of my favorite Vice journalists!! She is a great reporter!!💗
@@zorrofox8950 No one cares
@@zorrofox8950No ones cares x2 🤡🤣👌
The smiles on that couple faces says it all as they wave goodbye to the camera man sort of like when a dolphin is cut lose from a fisherman's net.
Last Summer, I met a couple of men from Russia who were at the same fast food restaurant that my family was at. I sometimes wonder if they were also refugees and if so, what their life is like now.
"I do not want to fight/kill people who have done nothing wrong to me" ... Let that sink in...
That’s insane.
good journalism.
Hromadske is the best you tube channel for seeing the front in person.
Grandpa came to the states from Germany. I wonder if he was escaping a war torn country. He passes before my 2nd birthday. Nobody told me how or why he left his old home. We're not Jewish or Nazis. I assume he just got the hell out of a messed up situation.