The wonderful life of digging for water. I tried it once and were on a lot of clay. It was either hitting rocks and having to make the trench 3 times the size or having the sides of the trench collapse before you could run the lines. I ended up giving up, and putting a dug well near the coop. Our water table is high. Thanks for you hard work!
Just came across your project today. I did a similar project for a water line and completed it in November. It was 150' and 3 1/2' deep. I used a 12" shovel on an RS1000 mini-bulldozer and an electric 2300W demolition chisel. Lots of clay, and lots of layered limestone rock. In a 12' continuous section of rock I used the jackhammer to break through the 12" thick rock, essentially carving a channel in the middle of the stone. The jackhammer helped me immensely in the removal of the three and a half tons of rock I had to take out of the trench, fortunately, the rock piled high was perfect for the goats to climb on. Providence was with me, I finished the schedule 80 and the faucet hook-up, ran the water and filled the trench the day before -8 degree weather hit.
Hi John! Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I'm glad I am not the only one who struggles with this sort of thing. I'm going to sun it as deep as I can go, then I'll run a conduit for future electrical run. Hope to get back at this one in the late spring when the ground dries up. It is filled with water, is now frozen and going to be a mess once I get back to working on it. Thank you
Awesome vid. I’ve never lived where it snowed. I’ve always wondered if the water line could be wrapped with insulation so it doesn’t freeze if it’s borderline at the freeze depth.
I've never lived where it doesn't snow 😁 I have an entire playlist of this build and in later videos I am not able to dig deep enough so I do cover the area with hard insulation. And after a full winter that seemed to work well. Thank you for watching and commenting. How to dig a trench with a backhoe: Kubota Water Line Project Series: th-cam.com/play/PLiHjZk5nlojrQEniHddaUe9YLd9cvCOZM.html
After running light to heavy equipment for a couple of decades, you tend to learn quickly to choose the most efficient equipment for the job. First, a 6” bucket has proven to me to be worthless. My minimum on backhoes, escalators is 12”. Small buckets load up and you can’t dump them. As for this video, for water lines 3/4 to 1 1/2”, I use a trencher. Faster, less soil displaced. You have to figure wear and tear on your equipment. The same rationale as to why I don’t use my 80,000 pound escalator to dig post holes. The cost to rent a trencher is minimal when compared to your time, your effort and overall wear and tear on your backhoe. Just my two cents for DIYers.
Hi Leo, you make excellent points. I 💯 agree with you, I wanted to see how the BX could handle these tasks, and at least for the narrow bucket in these soil conditions are not ideal. Plus for the cost of that narrow bucket alone, I could have paid for 1/2 the rental cost of a trencher for the afternoon and I'd be done. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have a good day.
I bet! I'm staring at this unfinished mess on my lawn and debating renting a machine to finish it. Also with the snow and rain most of that trench has collapsed in on itself again so now I'm in an even worse spot. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have a great day.
I am in Canada and I think you hit bedrock not a stone. This happens on my property all the time. Good luck and hang in there. You will win at some point in time.
You are probably right! I have since finished the project and have the rest of the vids. Lots of ups and downs followed! :) thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it. Have a good weekend.
I feel the pain Ross. I was not expecting snow this early either and now it's bitter cold with no snap in sight. Oh well, just move forward. Thanks for sharing!
Good morning Ross. I would not call it a fail.. I is just a set back for a short period of time. I know you where trying to not have to lug water all winter but it will be the last winter you have to. So that is something to look forward to.. Always think positive. That is one big bolder you have growing there. Hahahah One thing I have learned is you can’t fight Mother Nature.. hahaha She always Wins.. So now you know what your first project will be in the spring. Have a great weekend.. I have been looking forward to snow I have a very big brush pile to burn and need snow to do it.😁 Stay safe and always be kind. Cheers
Gus! You are so right! More positives than negatives for sure. I just procrastinated all summer for no reason other than lazy so that's why I'm more upset about it. But I'll be ready in the spring. Mother Nature always wins for sure. I hope we get lots of snow, looking forward to it. Thanks have an awesome weekend
Y’all got a lot done! That’s a huge job! I busted my sewer line digging to run sewer to my garage. It was a pretty easy repair, but it hurts your pride a little. Lol. Best of luck figuring out a way to get it finished!
Hello Ross, I feel your pain my friend. Until recently we have been having t-shirt weather here , but today , because of lumber supply delays, we were using a heat gun to instal ice and water shield on the roof of Mr. Kubota's new home. All the best, Ben from Nova Scotia
Hello Ben! Same here, less than 10 days ago it was 22°c and sunny, and this week. Total winter. :) Much appreciate the comments but don't envy having to be up on a roof this time of year. Have a super weekend.
How much pressure are you running through it? I had to modify mine to two thousand psi because it would not do anything with the twelve hundred psi it came from factory
I've worked construction and mining most of my life. We'd call that dust control and keep going. But if you don't have the experience and don't feel comfortable. I agree stopping is better before something happens that's going to cost life and money. Great topsoil BTW.
Hey! Thanks. I definitely have an appreciation for heavy equipment operators, and their proficiencies. Thanks for the comment and watching. Have a good day.
dont worry about the rock 3 1/2 ft is more than enough , by insulating the water line with pipe insulation will protect the pipe more than enough even in below 0 temps...I hit rock with my water line and in places it was only 20 inches deep and insulated it and have never had an issue and I live in the Northeast where temps dip below 0 at times in the winter...
Hi John, Thank you that's exactly what I'm going to do, but in Eastern Ontario, Canada we get around -30°c (-22f) or colder for a few weeks weeks every winter, and that is why I wanted to get below 5 feet deep. But I can only do what I can , and you are right. I'll be insulating for sure. Much appreciated. Have an awesome weekend.
@@RossOnTheLand I'm sure your much colder in Ontario than where I'm at in NY but we have had below 0 degree F for more than a week here and my line was done 17 years ago insulated at only 20 inches and I've never had a problem....Good Luck....I'm sure the insulation will work for You.....BTW~ I also have a BX23S and love it...
Im sure by now youve discovered that 3.5' is deep enough Here in PA, our line is 3' but that was from the 1900s, with recent climate last 10 years I suspect our PA frost line has gone from 3' to more like 1.5 at most. Escentially, the frost lines in the north east realistically are more likely about half of what they state them to be nowadays.
You are probably very correct on that. ... But I have this issue where if something bad is going to happen, it's usually to me, and at the worst time 😞 so yes in some places I wasn't able to go 4' deep and I just hope it doesn't bite me in a few years. Thanks for watching and I agree with your comments.
Hey Ross I know your pain I'm putting up a fence and didn't it start the snow on me and it's gonna have to be finished in the spring how frustrating is that ah You got to love our Canadian weather as well our shield
Oh that sucks. We wanted to fence our property, but that was going to cost 30k! So that's not happening haha. Ya the shield is nice in theory, difficult when in the way. I do live our winters.. but wished it held off one more day. Have an awesome weekend.
Yikes! 4' trench. Rocks. "nicked it a bit". Snow. What a hassle to put in a water line, Ross. We're cold in Florida this week too....had a light frost this morning. We're shook! 🥶
Oh man I feel you on this one! Winter hit way to early! Sorry buddy. I'm still holding out hope that winter hasn't shut me down yet. We have light snow and it is only a high of 26*F / -3*C today. I'm going to head out anyway and see what happens. I'm looking forward to see the completion of your water line in spring!
Eddie, that's a great idea I saw a stump puller with chains in the bucket, but didn't know what it was for.... Would I weld it length wise, from teeth to pin, or across side to side? Awesome idea.
@@RossOnTheLand weld it length wise I always left mine a little long but it’s operator preference I own a kubota L35 and wish i had a trench bucket for it sometimes
Hi Robert, the issue is I need water all winter to feed the pigs, chickens, rabbits. I've been carrying water in buckets twice a day. Much rather have a yard hydrant to have water all year long.
I was sad and disappointed you did not finish it, there is lights on the tractor, the snow will slow you down but not enough to stop you. East Central Minnesota old guy here with no rocks in his yard
Hi Larry, please send some non rocky soil my way :) ran outta time, no help, and needed a different yard hydrant. And needed the snowblower for other jobs. Much appreciated and have a great weekend.
I thing a could take off 5 ft of soil off my 7.5 acres and maybe not find anything over a 1” around and there would not be many that size. My area is part of the old Mississippi sand plains
Well, this made me rethink wanting a tractor with a backhoe. All that kneeling on the seat. I only have 40 hours on my BX and I'm already thinking my first upgrade needs to be an air suspension seat. Also, seeing that Shield Rock is super cool, I got more of the glacial run off below you here in Minnesota.
Hey thanks for the comment. For jobs this long, I leave the seat facing backwards and just raise the stabilizer arms and use the boom to push the tractor forwards. That works well. Or I get off the tractor and walk beside it. Yes a suspension seat would be a nice upgrade. I'm astonished as to how big that rock is. Have an awesome weekend
@@RossOnTheLand Sure would be nice if there was a "creep" function on the BX series, but pushing it like you said works, if done safely. The BXpanded quick change is great if you plan on more bucket implements one day for the backhoe.
Hi thanks for the comment. The problem with letting it creep is you lose quite a bit of digging power as the bucket curl function can easily pull the tractor backwards, so locking the brake, and digging the bucket into the ground helps, but limits the creeping functionality. Have an awesome weekend.
I just saw a Homestead Rescue where they put insulation panels on top of the water line which they said would be equivalent to 2 extra feet on top of the line. Then they put a layer of plastic over it.
Good evening Sir, you can isolate over your water line ( styrofoam or even hay ) and use your leafblower to blow the snow away and then fill up your trench Maaan !!! You can do it with that amount of the snow do not so dramatic Sir 🤣👌👍 You CAN DO IT ROSS, Let's GO DO IT Cheers 🍻🍻
Always love your get it done attitude! Yes I could be I ran out of time, help, material and parts. Haha. Will be getting at it in the spring. Thanks as always my friend. Have an awesome weekend
@@RossOnTheLand Keep up your OUTSTANDING Attitude Ross, think about it you will be THE ONLY ONE doing Backhoe therapy in the middle of the winter 🤔🤔👍👍😇😇👌👌 Cheers
Thinking the trenching bucket is just not the greatest fit if there’s any moisture in the ground. Might work better as a root grubbing bucket. Great job. We’re into 36” of snow outside Buffalo. And I’m layer up with a knee replaced yesterday. Hope to rehab quick and get to it….
Hello David. I agree, around here it's not the best tool for the conditions. Hope we get some of that snow up here! And definitely hope your knee replacement heals fast and strong. Have an awesome weekend, put your feet up! 😂
@@RossOnTheLand The line our septic guy sourced apparently self regulates energy usage? I dunno, I plugged it in and it works so I'm happy. It was 9$/ft though (Rocky Mountain House, Ab)
Hi Chris, please send some warm weather up here for me! Maybe some grass clippings haha. I ordered a shorter hydrant, and I'll build up the slope to make up for the shallow depth. I'll also add some foam boards as insulation. Have a good weekend.
Well I understand why things up at the Cay were going so easy, Murphy was busy at your place! Man I don't know what to say.😮 I agree with Luc though, insulation should do the trick. Fingers crossed 🤞 for you. On the bright side it is the weekend! 👍🍻🚜🥂🍹🍸🍷🍻A couple of these might make it go away temporarily. Cheers buddy!
I'm glad to have kept Murphy busy for a little while then my friend. I have already taken the sting out of "delayed success" haha. I'll pick this project back up in the spring.
Big job bud. But yeah like you said earlier some foam and hay should do it for the shallower spots. maybe rent a propane flamethrower to melt that snow in the trench and get that pipe in lol But you never know we could get another warm spell in December. But remember, you gotta hit rock bottom in the trenches to get better lol.
Haha. Thanks Troy! Oh I hit rock bottom on this one for sure ! I can't believe how gigantic this rock is. I'd love to use a flame thrower :) haha. Have an awesome weekend
Thank you, and it's only going to get worse as I have no other choice than to fill it all back in as winter and rain have collapsed the walls and 3/4 filled the trench already. Keep an eye out for that disappointing video in the near future... :)
That must be very frustrating. We spend all winter hoping we may get one day of snow and you get months of it. That was a long way to dig and that rock must be huge
Yup, and guess what... It didn't get any better over the winter. It mostly caved in so I have a giant mess on my hands when I try to finish this project in a few weeks. Thanks for watching and commenting 😊
I looked into it and around here they are over $300 Canadian, but after seeing how poorly the trenching bucket did in my situation I won't be switching out to that bucket again. :)
Omg that was a big project Ross, I guess you can really say you hit rock bottom 😳. If I may make a suggestion, you could put some 2” foam insulation where you don’t have 4’ just to be safe. It’s all white here also and it doesn’t look like it’s going to melt anytime soon. Good luck my friend 🙂🙋🏼♂️👍🏻
I was thinking if you are worried about freezing the waterline use heat tape around the pipe where it is too shallow and/or dig a wider trench in shallow areas and install styrofoam insulation above the waterline by a few inches. Im betting 3 ft below the surface a few feet wide and several inches thick would help protect the line from freezing. Combining both would really protect the line. But like all things it'd cost money.
Hello, I was thinking of that as well. But in the end I was able to get down 4 feet, and I will be building up the ground near the hydrant area a bit so I didn't end up using any foam boards. I'm about halfway to the house now and have a few more videos of the progress and bits not finished yet.. :). Thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it.
When I feel deflated I go for the vitamin G, .... yup a pint of Guinness. It always cheers me up Ross. LOL. I see you are into Star Trek like me, with the purchase of your new VULCAN brand shovel ! Well, with spring comes new hope, and many months to get that job done, and with your Kubota at least you'll have some fun. That thing is awesome. I don't need the back hoe but I still want your model over mine haha !
Unfortunately there are a bunch of factors that prevent me from finishing, time, weather materials, help.. I had a small window and I took too long. Thanks B. Much appreciated, and have a great weekend
The skinny thing isn't a bucket. I assume you only use it to break up super rock ground. I'll watch more to see if you get on track. GAH! That is a nasty dig. I wonder if there is something that would insulate the pipe well enough to make it safe at 2.5 or 3 ft? Heat tape? Anyway, good luck.
Thank you, here's a bit of a spoiler there is a playlist of my trials and tribulations.. ups and downs, but I'm the end I got there. Thank you for commenting and watching.
Hi Rick, I was thinking about that as an option when we first hit that boulder but when we realized the massive size it became apparent that would be difficult. In that section of trench that rock is over 10 feet long. I'm comfortable with that depth without breaking up the rock.
Where were you 2 years ago when I first learned that truck after suffering from lack of power. That's definitely a nice boost of power. Thank you very much.
Ross: next week is supposed to be better. No snow. Maybe you can finish the trench then. Maybe run a heat wire in the trench with the pipe. Take care and stay safe.
Thanks for the comment, unfortunately I'm back at work and won't have time to finish this off. I've already switched over the implements on the Kubota, and I don't have the replacement shorter yard hydrant yet. It's going to have to wait until spring. Have a great weekend.
Why are you kneeling on the seat instead of using the backhoe to move forward as you dig? Leave the machine in neutral, lift the front off the ground with bucket. Level the back with stabilizers and then lower it and push forward as needed. You can even use steering to point it in the direction you need. Much easier
Hello, and thank you for watching and commenting. I definitely do that as well. But I was encountering a lot more obstacles that required me to use the brakes and it was just easier to kneel on the seat this time. Much appreciated, have a great weekend.
So you mean to tell me you have a tractor, a nice house and property, and you only have (1) shovel and you cant find it. Organization is the name of the game.
Yes that's correct.. but I actually lost 2 shovels.. organization is important, but I'm not the only one who uses stuff around here, and they don't always get back to where they belong.. :)
Shhhh.. I don't want to turn my property into an archaeological dig site! 😂. Thanks Chad. I'm really looking forward to finishing this project, but we are still getting snow here so it's still on hold.. thanks for watching and commenting.
I 💯 agree. Would have been done in hours instead of weeks. But I have a backhoe, times, and to a way lesser degree, the will to do it with what I had on hand. But yes. Better understanding of the limits of the BX backhoe for future consideration. .
One drawback of the BX is the seat needing to be rotated to use the backhoe, and when digging in short distances of the BX, means there is a pretty repetitive process of seat rotation so at some points I just kneel on the seat make a bit of progress on the trench then move the tractor ahead and repeat.
Oh! You know what... Maybe it is! I should get the Backhoe back on the BX and really find the edges... You might be onto something 😜 thanks for watching and commenting
We want water all year round for the animals, I am tired of carrying buckets of water 2x a day down to the farm all winter, so this will let me get water right at the farm.
Well that’s to bad guys. Frustrating for sure. I wonder how thick that big rock is. Hard to believe it’s that big around. You didn’t happen to try breaking thru the rock with a bar and hammer. Or hitting it with a maul. Hope things work out for ya.
The wonderful life of digging for water. I tried it once and were on a lot of clay. It was either hitting rocks and having to make the trench 3 times the size or having the sides of the trench collapse before you could run the lines. I ended up giving up, and putting a dug well near the coop. Our water table is high. Thanks for you hard work!
Hummm.. I didn't even consider that! Our water table is only 80' so maybe I should have just done another well... Thanks for the idea.
Just came across your project today. I did a similar project for a water line and completed it in November. It was 150' and 3 1/2' deep. I used a 12" shovel on an RS1000 mini-bulldozer and an electric 2300W demolition chisel. Lots of clay, and lots of layered limestone rock. In a 12' continuous section of rock I used the jackhammer to break through the 12" thick rock, essentially carving a channel in the middle of the stone. The jackhammer helped me immensely in the removal of the three and a half tons of rock I had to take out of the trench, fortunately, the rock piled high was perfect for the goats to climb on. Providence was with me, I finished the schedule 80 and the faucet hook-up, ran the water and filled the trench the day before -8 degree weather hit.
Hi John! Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I'm glad I am not the only one who struggles with this sort of thing. I'm going to sun it as deep as I can go, then I'll run a conduit for future electrical run. Hope to get back at this one in the late spring when the ground dries up. It is filled with water, is now frozen and going to be a mess once I get back to working on it. Thank you
Awesome vid. I’ve never lived where it snowed. I’ve always wondered if the water line could be wrapped with insulation so it doesn’t freeze if it’s borderline at the freeze depth.
I've never lived where it doesn't snow 😁 I have an entire playlist of this build and in later videos I am not able to dig deep enough so I do cover the area with hard insulation. And after a full winter that seemed to work well. Thank you for watching and commenting.
How to dig a trench with a backhoe: Kubota Water Line Project Series: th-cam.com/play/PLiHjZk5nlojrQEniHddaUe9YLd9cvCOZM.html
After running light to heavy equipment for a couple of decades, you tend to learn quickly to choose the most efficient equipment for the job. First, a 6” bucket has proven to me to be worthless. My minimum on backhoes, escalators is 12”. Small buckets load up and you can’t dump them. As for this video, for water lines 3/4 to 1 1/2”, I use a trencher. Faster, less soil displaced. You have to figure wear and tear on your equipment. The same rationale as to why I don’t use my 80,000 pound escalator to dig post holes. The cost to rent a trencher is minimal when compared to your time, your effort and overall wear and tear on your backhoe.
Just my two cents for DIYers.
Hi Leo, you make excellent points. I 💯 agree with you, I wanted to see how the BX could handle these tasks, and at least for the narrow bucket in these soil conditions are not ideal. Plus for the cost of that narrow bucket alone, I could have paid for 1/2 the rental cost of a trencher for the afternoon and I'd be done. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have a good day.
That look when you walked out into the snow says it all lol!
It was a valiant effort and you will get it done!
Have a great week!
Thanks Derk. Yup. The face says it all. Haha. Spring will be here soon enough. Thanks have a great weekend
I feel your pain. I dug a 100’ trench with my BX. Second trench I had to do, I rented a trencher and was done in 1 1/2 hrs. Lesson learned.
I bet! I'm staring at this unfinished mess on my lawn and debating renting a machine to finish it. Also with the snow and rain most of that trench has collapsed in on itself again so now I'm in an even worse spot. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have a great day.
I am in Canada and I think you hit bedrock not a stone. This happens on my property all the time. Good luck and hang in there. You will win at some point in time.
You are probably right! I have since finished the project and have the rest of the vids. Lots of ups and downs followed! :) thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it. Have a good weekend.
I feel the pain Ross. I was not expecting snow this early either and now it's bitter cold with no snap in sight. Oh well, just move forward. Thanks for sharing!
Hello, yup always seems to catch me off guard. Less than 10 days ago it was sunny warm and now total winter. :) Haha. Have an awesome weekend
Good morning Ross.
I would not call it a fail.. I is just a set back for a short period of time.
I know you where trying to not have to lug water all winter but it will be the last winter you have to. So that is something to look forward to.. Always think positive.
That is one big bolder you have growing there. Hahahah
One thing I have learned is you can’t fight Mother Nature.. hahaha She always Wins..
So now you know what your first project will be in the spring.
Have a great weekend..
I have been looking forward to snow I have a very big brush pile to burn and need snow to do it.😁
Stay safe and always be kind.
Cheers
Gus! You are so right! More positives than negatives for sure. I just procrastinated all summer for no reason other than lazy so that's why I'm more upset about it. But I'll be ready in the spring. Mother Nature always wins for sure. I hope we get lots of snow, looking forward to it. Thanks have an awesome weekend
Y’all got a lot done! That’s a huge job! I busted my sewer line digging to run sewer to my garage. It was a pretty easy repair, but it hurts your pride a little. Lol. Best of luck figuring out a way to get it finished!
Hey Lucas, I'll be finishing this job next spring. No more time, help, or the required shorter yard hydrant.
Hello Ross,
I feel your pain my friend. Until recently we have been having t-shirt weather here , but today , because of lumber supply delays, we were using a heat gun to instal ice and water shield on the roof of Mr. Kubota's new home.
All the best,
Ben from Nova Scotia
Hello Ben! Same here, less than 10 days ago it was 22°c and sunny, and this week. Total winter. :) Much appreciate the comments but don't envy having to be up on a roof this time of year. Have a super weekend.
How much pressure are you running through it? I had to modify mine to two thousand psi because it would not do anything with the twelve hundred psi it came from factory
Mine is stock pressure, so I think I'll look at adding shims to raise it up a bit as well. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have a good week
I've worked construction and mining most of my life. We'd call that dust control and keep going. But if you don't have the experience and don't feel comfortable. I agree stopping is better before something happens that's going to cost life and money. Great topsoil BTW.
Hey! Thanks. I definitely have an appreciation for heavy equipment operators, and their proficiencies. Thanks for the comment and watching. Have a good day.
wow 48" frost line. Gotta be Canada! In Missouri we're 32-36 inch
Yes sir! Ontario Canada eh! :)
North East Minnesota here. Water lines here are usually 5' or deeper.
Ya we should be trying to get below 4' much appreciated 👍
dont worry about the rock 3 1/2 ft is more than enough , by insulating the water line with pipe insulation will protect the pipe more than enough even in below 0 temps...I hit rock with my water line and in places it was only 20 inches deep and insulated it and have never had an issue and I live in the Northeast where temps dip below 0 at times in the winter...
Hi John,
Thank you that's exactly what I'm going to do, but in Eastern Ontario, Canada we get around -30°c (-22f) or colder for a few weeks weeks every winter, and that is why I wanted to get below 5 feet deep. But I can only do what I can , and you are right. I'll be insulating for sure. Much appreciated. Have an awesome weekend.
@@RossOnTheLand I'm sure your much colder in Ontario than where I'm at in NY but we have had below 0 degree F for more than a week here and my line was done 17 years ago insulated at only 20 inches and I've never had a problem....Good Luck....I'm sure the insulation will work for You.....BTW~ I also have a BX23S and love it...
Yes for sure. Thanks John. I do appreciate the help and suggestions. Nice that you have a BX as well.
Im sure by now youve discovered that 3.5' is deep enough
Here in PA, our line is 3' but that was from the 1900s, with recent climate last 10 years I suspect our PA frost line has gone from 3' to more like 1.5 at most.
Escentially, the frost lines in the north east realistically are more likely about half of what they state them to be nowadays.
You are probably very correct on that. ... But I have this issue where if something bad is going to happen, it's usually to me, and at the worst time 😞 so yes in some places I wasn't able to go 4' deep and I just hope it doesn't bite me in a few years. Thanks for watching and I agree with your comments.
What a great project, Ross! Creative edit as usual!
Thanks Ed. Love editing. Have a good weekend.
Hey Ross I know your pain I'm putting up a fence and didn't it start the snow on me and it's gonna have to be finished in the spring how frustrating is that ah
You got to love our Canadian weather as well our shield
Oh that sucks. We wanted to fence our property, but that was going to cost 30k! So that's not happening haha. Ya the shield is nice in theory, difficult when in the way. I do live our winters.. but wished it held off one more day. Have an awesome weekend.
Yikes! 4' trench. Rocks. "nicked it a bit". Snow. What a hassle to put in a water line, Ross. We're cold in Florida this week too....had a light frost this morning. We're shook! 🥶
Thanks Brad, yup all the problems were had. Oh well next spring we'll tackle it again.
Smoke in the morning, loose shovel by lunchtime😅
Haha. Yup! Thanks for watching and commenting 😁
Oh man I feel you on this one! Winter hit way to early! Sorry buddy. I'm still holding out hope that winter hasn't shut me down yet. We have light snow and it is only a high of 26*F / -3*C today. I'm going to head out anyway and see what happens. I'm looking forward to see the completion of your water line in spring!
Thanks Justin. Ya we are supposed to be getting lots of snow this week. Just wanted one more day :)
Been digging with kubota for years if you weld a short piece of chain in that trench bucket it will help with dirt packing into it
Eddie, that's a great idea I saw a stump puller with chains in the bucket, but didn't know what it was for.... Would I weld it length wise, from teeth to pin, or across side to side? Awesome idea.
@@RossOnTheLand weld it length wise I always left mine a little long but it’s operator preference I own a kubota L35 and wish i had a trench bucket for it sometimes
Thanks Eddie
Water lines here are about 12" deep. I usually just hand dig from the meter to a rental house and cuss when I hit a 3" round rock. Western WA state.
Racks were the bane of my existence here. Lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Drill and blast?
Backhoe worked well enough
What about an running a line from your air compressor and then a couple of ball valves so you can just blow the lines out?
Hi Robert, the issue is I need water all winter to feed the pigs, chickens, rabbits. I've been carrying water in buckets twice a day. Much rather have a yard hydrant to have water all year long.
@@RossOnTheLand Ah yep not an option.
I was sad and disappointed you did not finish it, there is lights on the tractor, the snow will slow you down but not enough to stop you. East Central Minnesota old guy here with no rocks in his yard
Hi Larry, please send some non rocky soil my way :) ran outta time, no help, and needed a different yard hydrant. And needed the snowblower for other jobs. Much appreciated and have a great weekend.
I thing a could take off 5 ft of soil off my 7.5 acres and maybe not find anything over a 1” around and there would not be many that size. My area is part of the old Mississippi sand plains
When we had our septic system enlarged, they took out massive rocks and every time I dog I worry. But this single rock is massive .
Well, this made me rethink wanting a tractor with a backhoe. All that kneeling on the seat. I only have 40 hours on my BX and I'm already thinking my first upgrade needs to be an air suspension seat.
Also, seeing that Shield Rock is super cool, I got more of the glacial run off below you here in Minnesota.
Hey thanks for the comment. For jobs this long, I leave the seat facing backwards and just raise the stabilizer arms and use the boom to push the tractor forwards. That works well. Or I get off the tractor and walk beside it. Yes a suspension seat would be a nice upgrade. I'm astonished as to how big that rock is. Have an awesome weekend
@@RossOnTheLand Sure would be nice if there was a "creep" function on the BX series, but pushing it like you said works, if done safely. The BXpanded quick change is great if you plan on more bucket implements one day for the backhoe.
Hi thanks for the comment. The problem with letting it creep is you lose quite a bit of digging power as the bucket curl function can easily pull the tractor backwards, so locking the brake, and digging the bucket into the ground helps, but limits the creeping functionality. Have an awesome weekend.
I just saw a Homestead Rescue where they put insulation panels on top of the water line which they said would be equivalent to 2 extra feet on top of the line. Then they put a layer of plastic over it.
I definitely did that along the trench closer to the house in later videos. Thanks for the comment and watching. Happy New Year!
Good evening Sir, you can isolate over your water line ( styrofoam or even hay ) and use your leafblower to blow the snow away and then fill up your trench Maaan !!! You can do it with that amount of the snow do not so dramatic Sir 🤣👌👍 You CAN DO IT ROSS, Let's GO DO IT Cheers 🍻🍻
Always love your get it done attitude! Yes I could be I ran out of time, help, material and parts. Haha. Will be getting at it in the spring. Thanks as always my friend. Have an awesome weekend
@@RossOnTheLand Keep up your OUTSTANDING Attitude Ross, think about it you will be THE ONLY ONE doing Backhoe therapy in the middle of the winter 🤔🤔👍👍😇😇👌👌 Cheers
@@RossOnTheLand Rememeber CANADA ( CAN DO ATTITUDE MAAAN !!! ) That is why were SOOO OUTSTANDING CANADIANS 👌👍💪😇 Cheers
Yup so true, although I've now switched over to snowblower mode and took off the backhoe.
Thinking the trenching bucket is just not the greatest fit if there’s any moisture in the ground. Might work better as a root grubbing bucket. Great job. We’re into 36” of snow outside Buffalo. And I’m layer up with a knee replaced yesterday. Hope to rehab quick and get to it….
Good luck and stay safe 👍🏻
Hello David. I agree, around here it's not the best tool for the conditions. Hope we get some of that snow up here! And definitely hope your knee replacement heals fast and strong. Have an awesome weekend, put your feet up! 😂
We just dug up the yard to run heat trace on our grey water field line as we couldn't get it deep enough in spots.
Ya I was thinking of that as well. Good idea.
@@RossOnTheLand The line our septic guy sourced apparently self regulates energy usage? I dunno, I plugged it in and it works so I'm happy. It was 9$/ft though (Rocky Mountain House, Ab)
Do these guys ever have a plan?
Nope, just start and see what happens.
You've got snow and I'm still mowing grass in Louisiana! Stay warm and finish it when you can maybe rent a jackhammer for the hydrant!
Hi Chris, please send some warm weather up here for me! Maybe some grass clippings haha. I ordered a shorter hydrant, and I'll build up the slope to make up for the shallow depth. I'll also add some foam boards as insulation. Have a good weekend.
If I could send you some I would!
Haha. Thanks 👍
Well I understand why things up at the Cay were going so easy, Murphy was busy at your place! Man I don't know what to say.😮 I agree with Luc though, insulation should do the trick. Fingers crossed 🤞 for you. On the bright side it is the weekend! 👍🍻🚜🥂🍹🍸🍷🍻A couple of these might make it go away temporarily. Cheers buddy!
I'm glad to have kept Murphy busy for a little while then my friend. I have already taken the sting out of "delayed success" haha. I'll pick this project back up in the spring.
Big job bud. But yeah like you said earlier some foam and hay should do it for the shallower spots. maybe rent a propane flamethrower to melt that snow in the trench and get that pipe in lol But you never know we could get another warm spell in December. But remember, you gotta hit rock bottom in the trenches to get better lol.
Haha. Thanks Troy! Oh I hit rock bottom on this one for sure ! I can't believe how gigantic this rock is. I'd love to use a flame thrower :) haha. Have an awesome weekend
Summer job. I feel for you.
Thank you, and it's only going to get worse as I have no other choice than to fill it all back in as winter and rain have collapsed the walls and 3/4 filled the trench already. Keep an eye out for that disappointing video in the near future... :)
That must be very frustrating. We spend all winter hoping we may get one day of snow and you get months of it. That was a long way to dig and that rock must be huge
Hi Joseph, yes that rock is gigantic. Very frustrating and we didn't even find an edge.
This felt bad right from the start. You had a mine field of things to tear up.
Yup, and guess what... It didn't get any better over the winter. It mostly caved in so I have a giant mess on my hands when I try to finish this project in a few weeks. Thanks for watching and commenting 😊
Looks like you need a quick attach plate for your backhoe.
I looked into it and around here they are over $300 Canadian, but after seeing how poorly the trenching bucket did in my situation I won't be switching out to that bucket again. :)
4ft where do you live Antartica.
Close.. Ontario Canada! :)
Omg that was a big project Ross, I guess you can really say you hit rock bottom 😳. If I may make a suggestion, you could put some 2” foam insulation where you don’t have 4’ just to be safe. It’s all white here also and it doesn’t look like it’s going to melt anytime soon. Good luck my friend 🙂🙋🏼♂️👍🏻
Thanks Luc, that is a good idea. I'll probably do a combination of foam boards and hay. Snowing again today.
Well that sucks Ross. Hopefully maybe you’ll get a break for some days and get it finished 🤞
Hi Bob, I've already swapped over the implements so it'll be next spring :( thanks for watching and commenting. Have a good weekend.
I was thinking if you are worried about freezing the waterline use heat tape around the pipe where it is too shallow and/or dig a wider trench in shallow areas and install styrofoam insulation above the waterline by a few inches. Im betting 3 ft below the surface a few feet wide and several inches thick would help protect the line from freezing. Combining both would really protect the line. But like all things it'd cost money.
Hello, I was thinking of that as well. But in the end I was able to get down 4 feet, and I will be building up the ground near the hydrant area a bit so I didn't end up using any foam boards. I'm about halfway to the house now and have a few more videos of the progress and bits not finished yet.. :). Thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it.
When I feel deflated I go for the vitamin G, .... yup a pint of Guinness. It always cheers me up Ross. LOL. I see you are into Star Trek like me, with the purchase of your new VULCAN brand shovel ! Well, with spring comes new hope, and many months to get that job done, and with your Kubota at least you'll have some fun. That thing is awesome. I don't need the back hoe but I still want your model over mine haha !
Haha! Yup. Going to be trying some Vitamin G this weekend my friend. Cheers :)
@@RossOnTheLand 🙂
and yeah never got an alert you replied. Ba humbug, I am logging in manually and see you replied.
@@KubotaTractorTherapy ya TH-cam comments leave a lot to be desired.
Wouldn't hurt to bury the snow would it ? , it would compact easy ? as long as ground doesn't freeze hard continue ??? get er done.
Unfortunately there are a bunch of factors that prevent me from finishing, time, weather materials, help.. I had a small window and I took too long. Thanks B. Much appreciated, and have a great weekend
The skinny thing isn't a bucket. I assume you only use it to break up super rock ground.
I'll watch more to see if you get on track.
GAH! That is a nasty dig. I wonder if there is something that would insulate the pipe well enough to make it safe at 2.5 or 3 ft? Heat tape? Anyway, good luck.
Thank you, here's a bit of a spoiler there is a playlist of my trials and tribulations.. ups and downs, but I'm the end I got there. Thank you for commenting and watching.
Why not rent a jack hammer and see if that would break up the big stone?
Hi Rick, I was thinking about that as an option when we first hit that boulder but when we realized the massive size it became apparent that would be difficult. In that section of trench that rock is over 10 feet long. I'm comfortable with that depth without breaking up the rock.
Push rod down with bucket. Fill bucket ir you need more power.
Where were you 2 years ago when I first learned that truck after suffering from lack of power. That's definitely a nice boost of power. Thank you very much.
Ross: next week is supposed to be better. No snow. Maybe you can finish the trench then. Maybe run a heat wire in the trench with the pipe. Take care and stay safe.
Thanks for the comment, unfortunately I'm back at work and won't have time to finish this off. I've already switched over the implements on the Kubota, and I don't have the replacement shorter yard hydrant yet. It's going to have to wait until spring. Have a great weekend.
Google "putting a chain in bucket" to keep it from clogging"
Haha. Yup. Found that out. Thanks for the tip.
Why are you kneeling on the seat instead of using the backhoe to move forward as you dig? Leave the machine in neutral, lift the front off the ground with bucket. Level the back with stabilizers and then lower it and push forward as needed. You can even use steering to point it in the direction you need. Much easier
Hello, and thank you for watching and commenting. I definitely do that as well. But I was encountering a lot more obstacles that required me to use the brakes and it was just easier to kneel on the seat this time. Much appreciated, have a great weekend.
So you mean to tell me you have a tractor, a nice house and property, and you only have (1) shovel and you cant find it. Organization is the name of the game.
Yes that's correct.. but I actually lost 2 shovels.. organization is important, but I'm not the only one who uses stuff around here, and they don't always get back to where they belong.. :)
Seems like an old ancient structure
Shhhh.. I don't want to turn my property into an archaeological dig site! 😂. Thanks Chad. I'm really looking forward to finishing this project, but we are still getting snow here so it's still on hold.. thanks for watching and commenting.
Renting a Ditch witch would be so much faster than struggling with a loader/backhoe
If the trench is more than 20' its ditch witch territory
I 💯 agree. Would have been done in hours instead of weeks. But I have a backhoe, times, and to a way lesser degree, the will to do it with what I had on hand. But yes. Better understanding of the limits of the BX backhoe for future consideration. .
Зоведу сваева я железнова коня прокапаю я троншею от зогона веть до дома штоб была всегда вода у Кабанчиков сытых паросяток 😊😊😊😊😊
Thank you. Digging took time, but worth it
Why are you sitting on the tractor like that?
One drawback of the BX is the seat needing to be rotated to use the backhoe, and when digging in short distances of the BX, means there is a pretty repetitive process of seat rotation so at some points I just kneel on the seat make a bit of progress on the trench then move the tractor ahead and repeat.
Richmond lol
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Oh man! 😂😂
Yup and now I'm waiting for summer to finish it. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@RossOnTheLand Keep it up man. 💪
Thank you! Appreciate the positive response.
Are you sure that’s not a old bomb shelter from the fifties and not a rock.
Oh! You know what... Maybe it is! I should get the Backhoe back on the BX and really find the edges... You might be onto something 😜 thanks for watching and commenting
Bummer Ross.
Thanks Gary. Ya a bit of a setback, but we'll get it done next spring. Have a good weekend
Or plan to drain in winter
We want water all year round for the animals, I am tired of carrying buckets of water 2x a day down to the farm all winter, so this will let me get water right at the farm.
Well that’s to bad guys. Frustrating for sure. I wonder how thick that big rock is. Hard to believe it’s that big around. You didn’t happen to try breaking thru the rock with a bar and hammer. Or hitting it with a maul. Hope things work out for ya.
Ya it's crazy big. No we don't have a way to see how big it is, nor did we even find an edge. Maybe next spring we'll find out.
Don't you know how to push your tractor with the backhoe???
Yup sure do, done it many times , and in many of my videos. Thanks for watching and commenting Justin.
That stinks Ross. Well, go get the snow gear on the tractor.
Yup :) doesn't always go to plan. I have switched over to the snowblower, but haven't taken the backhoe off yet :)
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Bad planning!
Well... how about no planning.. haha.
This was uploaded before in 2021
Hello, not this video, I haven't dug a trench in my property, I probably definitely talked about doing it, as I've been putting this off for a while.