Flash vs QUEEN / DEVOURER !?!?!?!?

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  • @SkataKPonos
    @SkataKPonos 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +176

    I've been playing Startcraft since 1998. I had to upgrade my first PC to be able to play it. I had the same PC and played the same game up until 2006, when my old PC died and I had to get a new one. Once I did, the first game I installed was Starcraft. The first game I've ever bought on PC was a Starcraft Box set back in early 2000's. I had to upgrade again my PC to be able to play Starcraft 2. I fought on the Ladder back in the day, tried to get into competitive SC2 but failed miserably.
    As a married man now, I don't play that much SC any more, but one thing has not changed: I still follow you and your channel for my daily dose of Pro Starcraft. I genuinely do not know how many years I've been your fan, Artosis. I still remember your casts back in the day with Nick, I believe I still have some of your old casts saved on my old HD. I'm starting to believe that I'm your stalker... Don't ever stop bringing Starcraft for us older folks. Love you!

    • @Merknilash
      @Merknilash 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      “Us older folks”
      Bro we were teenagers when StarCraft came out
      This is made for us

    • @aaronliedka7242
      @aaronliedka7242 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Merknilash👏

    • @markmuller7962
      @markmuller7962 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Remember the SC-ForAll Artosis podcast? :D

    • @bagibadoo439
      @bagibadoo439 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      40 year old here, never played SC professionally but played a ton around 2000. Found this channel a couple of months ago and it's the only thing I watch nowadays during my tiny lot of free time between the kids falling asleep and myself.

    • @markmuller7962
      @markmuller7962 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bagibadoo439 Check out ASL (now SSL) too!

  • @eugenelum4415
    @eugenelum4415 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    (1) i like starcraft brood war..
    (2) but you know, artosis casting stuff with indepth explanation.. some history trivia.. is REALLY the main reason why i am subscribed here.
    (3) of course.. chills as well. muhahah

    • @dylaninnes8541
      @dylaninnes8541 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes to chills

    • @Radii_DC
      @Radii_DC 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      muhahaha? More like mutahaha...

    • @Broockle
      @Broockle 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      samezies, RT is a real one.

    • @julkiewitz
      @julkiewitz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i subscribed because i cannot afford an AC, but Arty providing free chills daily

  • @dawbeh
    @dawbeh 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +81

    Started playing StarCraft again because of Artosis Casts.

    • @peoplesauce
      @peoplesauce 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Bro, same! See you on the ladder, nerd!

    • @dawbeh
      @dawbeh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@peoplesauce See you on the battlefield!

    • @Doubleptrem
      @Doubleptrem 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cisa.

  • @kingjonc
    @kingjonc 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    A flash game before the end of the year? A Christmas miracle. Also another great example of flash’s game knowledge to have the sieged tanks to help hold

  • @TheNekruss
    @TheNekruss 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +107

    Yeah... In the last 10 ZvT games, you see Mutas just grinding through these Marines, and you start to question Bio as a whole. But Flash is Flash

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I bet it was so annoying for Zelot to not be able to grind the marines at all.

    • @mimszanadunstedt441
      @mimszanadunstedt441 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Zerg have the advantage of more hours into Mutalisk control proportionally, so their skill level is going to be higher than bio usually.

    • @DanBoy-c3l
      @DanBoy-c3l 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The last 10 tvz I played the zergs got steamrolled

    • @hungmarin
      @hungmarin 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In Stormgate, hedgehod can turn into siege mode and fire air units

    • @gamepenguin9
      @gamepenguin9 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DanBoy-c3lin 2003?

  • @juggernaut1133
    @juggernaut1133 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    One of the best zvt's I've seen! That air z push from Zealot would be lethal for most but that counterattack by Flash decisively won him the game

  • @MaleMan-o7
    @MaleMan-o7 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Hope you and your family had a great Christmas Arty!

  • @bobrosstwin5373
    @bobrosstwin5373 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    holy crap 50k subs. Proud of yall man you do a lot of work keep us intertain and we appreciate that keep up the good work.

  • @Havlark
    @Havlark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    There's a phrase in melee that Scar said. "There's so much more melee left to play". And I feel that way about broodwar when I see this

  • @Tufas
    @Tufas 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Liquipedia says that the only units in the game whose attack speed is not affected by Ensnare are Siege Tanks and Goliaths (and Medics)

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Also reavers, carriers, and interceptors. And anything that explodes of course (scourge, infested terrans, spider mines). Ensnare only increases the cooldown, and those units never actually use their cooldown for anything. It will still slow their movement, though (though it's hard to ensnare a mine), so for instance, ensnaring interceptors effectively reduces the rate they attack.
      But yeah, I'm sure it's a mistake that it doesn't slow the attacks of tanks and goliaths, which I think is because it doesn't affect their turrets that actually attack.

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@EebstertheGreat it makes sense, tanks fire slow anyways and gols pilots are inside their cockpit so it should not affect their own movements.

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@FlymanMS I'm not sure why ensnare affects laser beams, rockets, and little guns but not big guns.

    • @AqoCyrale
      @AqoCyrale 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      it's because of how the game is coded. siege tank and goliath are actually two units on top of each other, the turret part is a separate entity

    • @TKGameGuy
      @TKGameGuy 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was wondering why dragoons would attack slower when ensnared, though it makes sense if they're considered firing from the same level as their motion, unlike tanks and goliaths; they have to aim with their legs (likely by tilting towards their target).

  • @wesselvandorsten
    @wesselvandorsten 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Came for the chills, stayed for the commentary.

  • @adamparulski3257
    @adamparulski3257 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Grate on 50K man! Love your content, happy to see you grow! Keep up the great work!

  • @FedericoDiazSparta
    @FedericoDiazSparta 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Subbed I've been following pro games in SC1 since 2009. Always a great time to listen to you man thanks for everything.

  • @SirVesanus
    @SirVesanus 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Came for chills, got frozen instead.

  • @LordMonSeigneur
    @LordMonSeigneur 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gratz on the 50k sub, I've been watching your streams on twitch for a long time but can't watch much lately because of work and I've taken the habit to watch your casts here when I get back from work while I eat and I've been enjoying it quite a lot!

  • @AlanEneev
    @AlanEneev 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for casting this! The gameplay level is insane.

  • @karanguyen7603
    @karanguyen7603 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congratulations on surpassing 50k subs. I’ve been in awe on the fact that SC is still being played. I tell people it’s the best game ever created. I remember when I told my dad for a whole week that I was sick so I couldn’t go to school. I was just playing SC all day. Best channel to the best game in the world!

  • @CptFitzgerald
    @CptFitzgerald 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    That Zerg composition had 4 different attacking units working in synergy. Even though Zealout lost, only a master could coordinate that level of micro and macro.

  • @hn-caesmaltes5372
    @hn-caesmaltes5372 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I haven't played StarCraft in a very long time and your videos are making me appreciate it even if i don't have the time to play, i can watch on breaks.

  • @TheSTLTaz
    @TheSTLTaz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Congrats on 50k!

  • @StudioMod
    @StudioMod 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Really neat game. Love seeing the Queens and Devourers.

  • @michaelbird9148
    @michaelbird9148 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Congratulations on 50k subscribers!
    Zealot's defense of his third base was a box art battle - glorious. Fun game.

  • @onewhodoes
    @onewhodoes 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    love the casts I initially watched people trolling you on your main channel, now I basically just watch this channel

  • @RaDiKaL3987
    @RaDiKaL3987 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely beatiful game. Thanks Arty for continuing with these casts!

  • @gregjuva
    @gregjuva 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Merry Late Flashmas GITC!!!! Thanks Arty! 🎄🎁

  • @Nooctae
    @Nooctae 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    How little the Muta did to the bio ball in the midgame was insane.

  • @johnbaxter5358
    @johnbaxter5358 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Devourers, Ensnare... Infested Terrans? Asking too much...

    • @SPTX.
      @SPTX. 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      broodlings

  • @_pond17
    @_pond17 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks for keeping interest in the game alive

  • @beaustebbings6968
    @beaustebbings6968 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still remember the long series that you cast of Rain vs Zealot. By far one of my favorite rabbit holes you went down

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love seeing underused Zerg Air, every Zerg Air was seen here, that's so based.
    The Support units like the Devourer are so undervalued, you don't need to mass them to make some use of their quirks.

  • @peoplesauce
    @peoplesauce 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There's a part of me that thinks "Wow, meta developments in Starcraft:Broodwar in 2024 is crazy to me - this is a wild thing". Then, there's another part of me that thinks "This is the greatest video game ever made, of course people are still playing and the meta is still evolving".
    Bless you for bringing this to all of us, Tosis!

  • @bsartias7737
    @bsartias7737 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Congrats on passing 50k!

  • @ericomfg
    @ericomfg 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm subscribed, therefore Artosis appreciates me. This is zen.

  • @FlymanMS
    @FlymanMS 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Flash and Zelot have interesting dynamic between them, always fun to watch their games.

  • @TamásIstvánBarbarics
    @TamásIstvánBarbarics 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Devourer and Queen are the Dark Archon of Zerg, instant like.

  • @Girthbrooks715
    @Girthbrooks715 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I literally had no idea what devourers did until now

    • @dj_koen1265
      @dj_koen1265 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      you pretty much never see them so i dont blame you

    • @andreydragomirov8559
      @andreydragomirov8559 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Really?! They also slow the enemy units' attack speed, although not as much as Ensnare. Each Devourer shot splashes a level of acid spores on a number of enemy units, stacking to level 9 max (which requires 9 shots). And at level 9 the enemy units will have -9 armour and their attack speed reduced by half.
      I just recalled an amazing StarCraft moment from about 20 years ago: I had a friendly team game with friends on an island map. My friend had 9 Devourers and got attacked by 3 other guys with almost full air supply limits each (including a lot of Battlecruisers and Carriers), against which he stood no chance (we were on a bad footing and eventually lost the game). I had only 12 Valkyries, 3-3 upgrades and came to his aid, while instructing him to make sure he had splashed level 9 acid spores on all of our opponents' units. By the time I arrived his Devourers were gone and the other guys were ravaging his base, but all of their units had level 9 acid spores on them. It took my 12 Valkyries 2 volleys to eradicate and evaporate everything they had - 3 airborne supply limits gone in seconds! One of my greatest StarCraft moments!

    • @Girthbrooks715
      @Girthbrooks715 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I tried using them years ago and they didn’t do any damage so I thought they were bugged and never used em again

    • @eugenelum4415
      @eugenelum4415 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      imagine debuff on their armour.
      but i did not know of reducing attack speed. so wow.

    • @JN-hs5xl
      @JN-hs5xl วันที่ผ่านมา

      The real combo is devourers + muta. Normally muta does 9 + 3 + 1 damage for 13 total damage. But if you get 9 devourer spores on the target, it adds to bounces too, so every muta deals 18 + 11 + 9 damage for total of 38 damage, that's almost triple the damage.

  • @urhere976
    @urhere976 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Woah that zerg play. That was awesome

  • @scarafereastra
    @scarafereastra 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    its very cool seeing devourers being used !

  • @jaredmyers7384
    @jaredmyers7384 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i watch every video you put out, love it

  • @ArkhnBarkin
    @ArkhnBarkin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was just thinking.. where are all the Flash games and bam! Artosis does not disappoint

  • @billybob-wx2re
    @billybob-wx2re วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "he's mostly playing custom games...
    like ultimate sunken defense 2024"

  • @mohsinjaved1358
    @mohsinjaved1358 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congrats on the growing subs!

  • @immersionHEHE
    @immersionHEHE 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What an insane game. Can't believe im seeing so much "new" stuff from these pros

  • @diegoalfonsosalgarsarmient8254
    @diegoalfonsosalgarsarmient8254 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful and eternal StarCraft Brood War

  • @Forerunner42
    @Forerunner42 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I've never actually seen a devourer until just now

    • @DarkDramon
      @DarkDramon 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah and it did a lot against the valks

    • @LoLaSn
      @LoLaSn 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They have popped up here and there in a few games, but they are very rare

    • @Loeschzwerch
      @Loeschzwerch 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They are the vaquita of SC for sure

  • @Sterlingcape
    @Sterlingcape 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Holy smokes, I can't believe how well he held that push, and micro'd his marine/medic ball at the same time!

  • @thanarinonett899
    @thanarinonett899 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a simple man. I see Flash, I get chills, I press like.

  • @KuraiChanZ
    @KuraiChanZ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:38 "Third base on location"
    Terran brain

  • @baloonfart8082
    @baloonfart8082 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Has anyone ever mentioned how fire the Terran music is?

  • @troyfiss9332
    @troyfiss9332 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    @10:58 that valk split was cray

  • @iopqu
    @iopqu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:20 that's only true if you make 16 turrets at once. If you make 2+2+2 to start vs. the initial 6 mutas you only "lose" 8*6*2 ~100 minerals, but you also lose this much 7 seconds later. You basically get to make another barracks slightly faster increasing your marine production time earlier. But you never gain minerals permanently unless you skip turrets

  • @somekindoflandcow
    @somekindoflandcow 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Devourers seeing play because Valkyries are seeing play feels so good. Thank god they finally fixed the sprite limit bug so there's actually a reason now to make either of the damn things

  • @thehealthynewfie
    @thehealthynewfie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    New meta. Zelot takes the CC and makes infested terran

  • @Seodoth
    @Seodoth 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    such a cool game! Honestly I think that unusual zerg army showed a lot of promise if it were controlled better. The ensnare on the marines to prevent them from running up to the guardians looked really strong.

  • @DuyPham-ex5rz
    @DuyPham-ex5rz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now that's a genuine Christmas gift. What a game!

  • @darkjackl999
    @darkjackl999 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man that poking he did with those mutas to get dmg in before morphing on low hp was so good beautiful game

  • @yubyubyub1960
    @yubyubyub1960 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I CANT BELIEVE I WAS LATE TO A FLASH GAME IM SO ASHAMED.

  • @TheBryceWade
    @TheBryceWade 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What an epic strat. Queens are Zergs unsung hero, just like DAs for Protoss.
    This will be devastating in the hands of SoulKey and Queen.

  • @illiberalautist2222
    @illiberalautist2222 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even with some rust Flash's decision making is just so clean.

  • @alexj0101
    @alexj0101 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Crazy. Queens, Ensnare, and Devourers!!

  • @liquidcitrus145
    @liquidcitrus145 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Best show in Esports. I say this as a big time esports fan.

  • @Oncus2
    @Oncus2 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Flash is amazing at counter attacks. He does it so often and wins games off of it. He waits until there is a big fight and fights on two fronts because he has such good micro.

  • @EvanWSH
    @EvanWSH 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man, spells in broodwar are so fucking great, most of them are very powerful situationally and have a serious opportunity cost to consider, but they shift in relative value based on how the meta shifts and the map in question, definitely something to always keep on ones radar. Except plague, that spell is always good and insane in any situation lol.

  • @pturtles
    @pturtles 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best casting and analysis

  • @SilkyJohnston444
    @SilkyJohnston444 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ARTOISE is the king of 2 CC mech play

  • @mattdmovies2295
    @mattdmovies2295 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love your videos Artosis!!

  • @Jrery
    @Jrery 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    CHILLS, its ok its ok its ok its ok

  • @VoxAcies
    @VoxAcies 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a great game! Very fun to watch something a bit off meta.

  • @GASHPAN
    @GASHPAN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeh I’m tuning in every day to get my BW fix. GG

  • @ManCubuSSC
    @ManCubuSSC 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Devourers are underrated. Great to see ZeLoT using them, we might see a new meta in future.

  • @RollinLeonard
    @RollinLeonard 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    50k! Best casting you can find anywhere.

  • @Frenchkid3000
    @Frenchkid3000 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He probably wouldn't have won anyways but I was SCREAMING QUEEN QUEEN QUEEN when that command center was in the yellow. I wanted it infested so bad lol. Really fun game!

  • @AaronAsherRandall
    @AaronAsherRandall 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Damn. That was an extremely PRO game.

  • @steven8614
    @steven8614 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congrats on 50k RT

  • @catharsis89
    @catharsis89 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Flash and Zelot are the two most entertaining players to watch in Brood War

  • @chocapix999
    @chocapix999 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Epic game to end the year with

  • @jonathangodbolt1671
    @jonathangodbolt1671 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hell yeah more Flash games!

  • @supaflytoon7684
    @supaflytoon7684 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ur casts are part of my daily routine, I watch them always after dinner (3PM GMT). Thank You and keep it up!
    P.S. Can we have some Sharp v zerg replay please ?

  • @karpai5427
    @karpai5427 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actually cool play from zerg. Love these flyers.
    Giant enemy flying crabs.

  • @justbrosey904
    @justbrosey904 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THE KING RETURNS

  • @SirVesanus
    @SirVesanus 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This. Was. Beautiful

  • @plzrelax
    @plzrelax 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One step closer to Zerg Christmas (plague/ensnare)

  • @Jakestation
    @Jakestation 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh finally a video i will watch

  • @destinilund4771
    @destinilund4771 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    0:11 hes mostly playing tower defense games

  • @FirstPersonLife
    @FirstPersonLife 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this one was fun

  • @troyfiss9332
    @troyfiss9332 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think I've seen a devourer since I saw me use one.

  • @darkstrong4553
    @darkstrong4553 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was here when the channel was at 20k 😮

  • @cheguevara5085
    @cheguevara5085 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thx, man, happy NY

  • @dj_koen1265
    @dj_koen1265 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    really cool game, would love to see zelot take this build even further

    • @andreydragomirov8559
      @andreydragomirov8559 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Would love to see how this build would work against Goliath builds...

  • @markmuller7962
    @markmuller7962 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some Valkyrie miss micro by Flash but yea Valkyries can be very difficult and inconsistent to micro and that's the beauty of Starctaft isn't it

  • @VM-vb5eb
    @VM-vb5eb 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    FLash, is BACK

  • @davidorawe3931
    @davidorawe3931 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I AM IN TEARS

  • @Radii_DC
    @Radii_DC 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dat ensnare was sick though...

  • @panchoxxlocoxx9638
    @panchoxxlocoxx9638 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Devourers, guardians AND queens? You don't get to see those often, especially not together.

  • @dermensch2553
    @dermensch2553 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That was awesome!

  • @infinityesq.4226
    @infinityesq.4226 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    didn't infect CC.. seems like diving on yellow-health CC's should be a strategy. how fast can mutas push a CC into yellow to infect it?

  • @damianszlachta1734
    @damianszlachta1734 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thats how you play vs mutas , you go out with marines mms to fight mutas in midle on the way to zerg base you force him to go back and defend his base with mutas instead him flying in your base and killing scvs

  • @LordMephilis
    @LordMephilis 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was really hoping Zealot would do it, I really want to see more guardians/devourers/queens, pretty much any underused unit find a place,

  • @markmuller7962
    @markmuller7962 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Artosis: Bio ball
    Me: people 😭

  • @romantroshkin3142
    @romantroshkin3142 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    very cool game. I wish Zealot did not miss a small group of bio that killed him. Probably couple of guardians in some hard to reach defensive positions would have defended him from Flashes counter attack