I think Saber is more likely Yamato Takeru given Susanoo is a divine spirit, not to mention the physical description matches Yamato to a T. A young man in silk robes androgynous enough to pass as a woman in one story to sneak into an enemy castle. Not to mention Yamato did hold the kusanagi for an extended period of time.
I also think it's Yamato. But for Susanoo, it's worth mentioning that while he is a god, he was reduced to the status of a human for a time. So him leaving the trace of a heroic spirit and not only a divine spirit in the throne is very likely
Potentially, though given how pseudo servants usually operate it'd be a bit odd to make one using a servant we've never seen before. Then again it's Fate so anything is possible.
Bro my best guess on why he is Yamato takeru is because Yamato takeru is japanese king Arthur. And he looks exactly like arturia except a dude and japanese
I’d like to share an interesting theory I’ve seen an going around. According to the theory, this Jalter might actually be a pretender class Claude des Armoises, who tried to pretend to be Jeanne after the real Jeanne’s death.
There was actually a dozen of fake Jeannes after her death and some people believe a French spy in english ranks could have switched her with a lookalike before her execution, but that's completely baseless and impossible to prove
@@Kumire_921i don't think it's just his Christian believe but his seething religious hatred. Instead of "O Lord, forgive thy enemies", it's "O Lord, vanquished thy enemies" or something like that
As much as I want the rogue saber to be Tomoe's husband, I have a strong feeling it could be her son Mostly because Tomoe's husband would be too obvious and her Son's achievements in battle are quite impressive as well (apparently fought crocodiles or sharks) i forgot his name but yea it also fits that he'd have armor would be akin to his mother almost like carrying on her legacy
Yoshimune? Founder of the Kiso clan? That said, I think he could actually be one of the Ashikagas (Minamoto, not Fujiwara), or one of their branches that used the same mon. If you look at the left bracer, there's what appears to be the Ashikaga mon.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec If I end up being right I can imagine all the memes of people calling him a pseudo-florida man purely for the fact that he fought some crocs
Surprised that you didn’t mention that the master of archer is himself a famous figure in history as the founder of Taiwan as a Chinese Provence, ie someone who probably qualifies as a heroic spirit himself
I mean yeah......what makes samurai remnant different from the rest fate serieses is that master's here are also historical figures who can be qualified to become heroic spirit themselwvs or related to some at the very least.
-Saber can also be Yamato Takeru. It would have credence thanks to that one episode where he disguised as a woman very convincingly. Either way, Susanoo or Yamato, the Kusanagi aka Ame-no-Murakumo (Cloud Gatherer) is involved for sure. -Archer is not obvious at first, but in the latest trailer we saw what seems to be their Noble Phantasm: chains tying up boats before setting them on fire. That's most likely a recreation of Huang Gai's fake surrender to Cao Cao at the Battle of Red Cliffs. I don't think this Archer is Huang Gai however. I would either say Zhou Yu (who was the chief tactician of the Wu) or Pang Tong (who suggested to Cao Cao the chaining of his boats). The boat theme makes sense because his Master is Koxinga, the guy who booted out the Dutch from Taiwan with superior naval forces. -Jeanne Alter being there I'm sure is a Waxing Moon shenanigan combined with Chiemon's desire for revenge. -Rider... I'm not 100% because Gudaguda has its own Takeda Shingen BUT two instances can exist so... whatever, let's go! In any case, yes, 100% Takeda-related. ALSO: the Takeda are an off-shoot of the Minamoto, and we know the Minamoto gave into mech shenanigans.... Be ready for nonsense lol -We did see Caster for 2 seconds in the latest trailer; from afar. It wears black and purple and I think had purple hair. That's all we got. -Assassin is very likely Kouga Saburou, unless they pull some shenanigans and this is some non-Japanese snake guy that just happens to look like a ninja. I would love it if Orochi was in control of the body after all^^ -I'm glad your videos are not text-based, I wouldn't be able to comprehend what it is all about. Typing this message right is very difficult for me; only 4 fingers on each hand can reach the keys you know...
So from the future here. Saber is most like a combination of Yamato Takeru with Susanao as Susanao has connection to the sea but never use the Kusanagi. Meanwhile Yamato used the Kusanagi but has little to no connection to the sea. Jalter here is a lot more calm here than in FGO. Most likely this is Jeanne either gets corrupted or willingly corrupted to accompany her master. Archer is The fire boat tactian as his NP is a battle scene of where he charge at his enemy and his boat is on fire. Rider seems to be agree upon to be Mama Raikou or a Takeda who is a Raikou face and voice.
My boy Cu is here, so I no doubt will love this game. With him here, everything else is essentially a neat to have side dish (Yes, Cu is my favorite character in Fate, how did you know?)
Won’t lie to you, part of me hoped that EMIYA would appear as a stray servant just to keep up the tradition where whenever one gets summoned, the others tags along
@@julianrobertson1869 He's a Counter Force Guardian, so maybe they'll lean into that? Would be cool to see him fulfilling that role more explicitly, even if (maybe especially if) it robbed him of some of his personality and will.
@@SvafaBlackhand I know fgo tried to retcon a lot but I'm pretty sure he's not usually in a class container when on the clock for alaya. That said my main concern is that I don't think Emiya qualifies for ruler class.
@@julianrobertson1869 I totally get that. I mostly meant that being on the clock for Alaya was the only way I could think of him qualifying for Ruler (Alaya removing/overriding any desire for the grail). >
Few personal things - Archer being Houyi was believable when he was first seen, but people have stopped believing that due to PV02 shows that Archer has the ability to summon chains, something Houyi has no association with. As of now, I haven't heard anyone having definite proof who he is, especially since people cannot tell if he is associated with boats or if the boats are unrelated. - I think Lancer isn't Jeanne Alter, but rather Jeanne d'Arc Alter. She is too gloomy to be Jeanne Alter, she lacks her ahoge, and we know that her Noble Phantasm is an inversion of Luminosité Eternelle, a Noble Phantasm that only Jeanne and Gilles can use. And before people say "But Jeanne cannot become Alter"; first, this is not a Holy Grail War, but a Waxing Moon Ritual. Second, there are definite references to Makai Tensho here, like how Chiemon knows Mori Shouiken. Them going "this ritual is so evil, it even corrupted Jeanne d'Arc" sounds like perfect stake raiser. - Rider is 100% Raikou. First, the fact that we don't know Rider's gender or voice actor makes it seem like revealing those details would give their identity away. Second, Rider's armor looks similar to Golden Huge Bear and Tametomo, two of Genji's Settsu Armors. Third, we see in PV02 some giant hoof crashing down from the skies. We don't know Rider's mount, and Raikou is the bull-demon Ushi-Gozen. And as for why it won't be Takeda Shingen, Shingen is 110% Keikenchi's character, so he is stuck in GUDAGUDA hell. - I agree that Assassin is Kouga Saburou, but not that he is also Orochi in disguise. He is probably associated with Orochi as the origin of the snake curse, but if Chiyome isn't just Orochi's meat-puppet, then I think same applies to him.
Yeah I am 90% positive that Rogue Saber is Asahina Yoshihide, Tomoe and Yoshinaka's son as the Kamon is very similar to the one he used. The only other option I can think of is Ashikaga Takakuaji but neither one is an exact match to the Kamon used.
The archer highly like is Zhou Yu from the Three Kingdom saga. In the latest trailer, it was shown that his NP feature Chinese junks, fire and chains, a definite nod to the Battle of Chi-Bi (Red Cliffs) as well as him saying "the wind is set"
I returned here to see how correct were the predictions: Saber - miss. Archer - miss. Lancer - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard) but good job on correctly assuming master's background and how they are connected. Rider - miss (but to be honest, I thought as well that he was Shingen before they revealed it was Raikou). Caster - points for correctly predicting the organization that will his master belong. Assassin - hit. Berserker - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard). Rogue Saber - hit. Rogue Archer - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard). Rogue Lancer - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard). Rogue Rider - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard). Rogue Berserker - hit. Very nice prediction. Overall not bad.
Honestly, I'd be surprised if Caster or thier master wasn't Doman. With the timeline for Musashi's life, the story impact, and there not being a reason to hide Caster's design unless it would majorly impact story theories.
4:18 ...well I mean, you're right Klidge. _The profile for Jalter's master on the Koei Tecmo site straight up says he's a survivor of the Shimabara rebellion_
Honestly I don't think Lancer is Jalter personally. My theory is that it's someone from the Crusades summoned through Jeanne be it accidental or a descendant of hers.
Hey klidge I think master saber and assassin are like what Cu Chulain is for Odin and what Caeneus is for Poseidon, divine proxy. With saber probably being Yamato Takeru empowered by Susanoo and assassin probably being Koga Saburo empowered by Orochi. Also I think I saw Tamamo Aria (in the second trailer) with a large fox familiar and I think that’s her mount.
I think Saber is actually a she after I saw her new outfit and like most of people think, I think she is Yamato Takeru the last wielder of Kusanagi. While for Archer. He gave me a lot of general vipe. Instead of Hou yi. People think he is Zhou yu but my personal opinion is Yue fei.
While Shingen was also my first guess, I saw some convincing arguments for rider being Raikou. Their VA being the only one hidden despite being revealed (other than The master of Caster (heh) for whom they also hid their name) and Takeda being descendants of the Minamoto clan, which I didn.t know.
Raikou was a rider class servant in shimosa, so it's definitely a possibility. Also would be cool to finally see it as a different design than her Berserker form
Also, we see a giant hoove descending to stomp something in the new trailer, that hoove has a symbol associated with Indra. And Nasuverse Raikou is connected to Indra and bulls
I subscribe to the theory, that Lancer is actually Claude des Armoises, the most famous Jeanne d'Arc imposter. I have no real proof. I just wanted her in Fate for a long time. 4:15 I don't think the term "crackpot theory" is applied to things that are explicitly stated. The sentence "He is a survivor of the great rebellion that once took place in Shimabara, Amakusa, that shook the peaceful era" is right there in his short description. You've read those, right? You talk about the stuff from Tamamo Aria's description... My crackpot theory (as extension of Claude des Armoises theory) is that Lancer's Master actually isn't a Shimabara survivor, he just pretends to be one.
Rouge Saber possible identities 1. The obvious but also likely red herring, Yoshinaka. 2. The subtle chance it is Yoshihide, Yoshinaka, and Tomoe's son. 3. Sakanoue no Tamuramaro, the trailer shows him demanding where oni is, meaning Otakemaru could possibly be present in some form. In my opinion this is likely the true one as the sheath of Rouge saber has the same shape as Onikiri Yasutsuna (the sword of Tsuna) that originally belonged to Sakanoue.
Honestly im just glad we have finally gotten another member of the tamamo nine . Even if she ends up Japanese mebd. Witch would make sense because we know that tamamo van be a very... Loving wife...
Also interesting, the plot is leaning heavenly on the amakusa shimabara rebellion aftermatch. That means at least saber could be involved in it. (the war banner of the rebels was grail btw). The thing about Karna and Arjuna is that Karna was written without Arjuna from the get go. He was in CCC
Yamato Takeru is probably the saber servant tbh. He has Kusanagi and some of his legends even had him cross dress so it would explain the genderbend or at least the ambiguous gender.
Samson in FGO could be really cool. his NP could be like arash where he kill himself but get a HUGE power mod. and they can give him a skill that has a huge battery using the lore from when he asked god for the power to take out his enemies.
So this game contains: A master of archer named Chen Gong, an onmyoji as the caster master, and a loli that rides people. Whatever happens, I'm scared.
Based on a recent trailer i am 99.9% shure archer is zhou yu from the three kingdoms. In the trailer for a second it shows what is clearly the battle of chibi (red cliffs) based on the fleet of burning ships, which is either Cao cao's fleet after being burned by ships faking a defection, or they are the ships that cause said fire. The plan was created by Zhuge liang and zhou yu to counter Cao cao's massive fleet. So our acher candidate makes sense since he had a huge role to play during that battle On top of that since Archer is confirmed to be a man and zhou yu is described as being very handsome, litterally being named "Zhou yu the handsome" with all this evidince i think its safe to assume that Archer is in fact zhou yu Also lets not forget this is a genuine warriors game. They got to add a dynasty warriors rep somehow.
Re: Assasin's connection with Orochi If Iori's Saber is Yamato Takeru, it would also make sense for it to be connected to Orochi given there's a version of the story where Takeru is cursed by the God of Mt.Ibuki which is also how he died. Guess which god resides in Mt. Ibuki? If you guessed Orochi, you're correct. Saber could also be a pastiche of both Susanano and Takeru like how Skadi was Scáthach too, given they both held Kusanagi at some point.
I won't say much for the other Servants, but I do have my own theory about who the Saber is - Yes, Susanoo has a high probability of being the Saber since he was exiled from the heavens for a time, especially during his fight with the Yamata no Orochi (which is considered a Beast in its own right, very much like Daji and Ibuki-douji). However, here's my pick: Yamato Takeru. My reasoning is that, while the Kusanagi is associated with Susanoo, it is also associated with members of the Japanese imperial family and Yamato Takeru was one such descendant and is Kusanagi's most prominent wielder - just because Susanoo also owns the sword, he never actually wielded it after he found it (to my knowledge, at least) and had given it to Amaterasu as a repentance present which allowed him to return to the heavens. Also, Yamato Takeru also dressed as a maidservant to assassinate the Kumaso leaders during a drinking party, and since Waxing Moon Saber is a Saberface, it should be noted that the pseudo-historical legends of Yamato Takeru are considered almost Arthurian in origin due to shared traits from the magic sword (Excalibur and Kusanagi) to the defeat of an enemy once the swords exchanged hands to a female figure (the Lady of the Lake and a shrine maiden). Plus, it should be noted that, if we get an Assassin associated with the Orochi, then that figure will have reason to hold disdain for Saber: One legend holds Yamato Takeru "...blasphemed a local god of Mount Ibuki, which sits on the border of Ōmi Province and Mino Province. The god cursed him with disease and he fell ill." However, Goatman, this is just a theory once I noted the similarities between Kusanagi and the secondary sword wielded by Saber. So, let me know what you think; your videos have given me some more understanding of the Servants, so I figured I'd offer this equally plausible theory.
3:45 yeah Avengers aren’t in grail wars hence why she’s a Lancer but I’m expecting this grail isn’t natural so I’m hoping she eventually turn into a avengers due to a abnormality in this grail war
saber is most likely yamato takeru who used the kusanagi, even renamed it kusanagi no tsurugi, or grasscutter sword, maybe he's a susano pseudo servant but not actually him
also one of the stories on Yamato Takeru is of him dressing as a maid to infiltrate an enemy's castle this saber can pull it off (the alternae costume make saber quite more androgynous)
Yamato was also given silk robes from his aunt so they match saber well. The only thing that has me stumped is the use of water though that could just be the sword
Maybe their both similar to how some servants who have connections to certain gods can use their powers though I don’t know enough about Takeru to say if he has a connection to Susano but that’s my guess
@@Zankyo137 interesting alright Fate might take creative liberties with this but what if Takeru has the blessings of multiple Japanese gods or NPs representing godly powers and Amaterasu abilities are a last resort just from their sheer power so Susano who if I’m not mistaken is Amaterasu’s brother is their go to powerhouse god for a powerful move
For Saber Susanoo is very unlikely, first Divin Spirit, second is design. That doesn't feat at all especially when they are a far more pertinent candidates : Yamato Takeru, he wield two different version of Kusanagi one related to Wind and the other to Rain (water). He is now to be a beautiful crossdresser and very brutal thay totally feat what we know yet. Lancer is strange, they release a new Jalter interlude some time ago where she say she can't existed outside Chaldea, (also she lack of the hair) the sort manga released in the last magazine also go in this direction so they're two possibility : Jeanne d'Arc herself corrupted by Makai Tensho an ancient spell used by amakusa shiro in the book with same name to basically summon the dead like a servant (that's one of Fate inspiration and shimosa is an homage to this book) or she is one of the many fake Jeanne d'arc. And Rider have a weird thing on her profile, her voice actor is hide so their two possibility. It's someone we already know or they hider the gender of Rider, for the second case it would make sense to be Takeda shingen because she is confirmed to be a girl in fgo. But there and other possibility, Minamoto no Raikou, Rider use lighting, have an big armor similar to the one used by the Minamoto and in the last trailer we see a giant hoove, in Japan the only thing that could be related to this is Ushi Gozen the otherside of Raikou.
Some pretty solid guesses all around. Though I think I have a guess at Archer, Caster, Rider, and Lancer. Archer from what we have seen in the second trailer is probably Zhou Yu from the Romance of Three Kingdoms. With the fire and chains being a connection to his role at the Battle of Red Cliff. Rider is like you said could be Takeda Shingen. But I believe they could also be Raikou or someone related to them. The armor conceals their whole body and they’re making an effort to hide Rider’s VA. Alongside the giant hood in the second trailer could be Ushi Gozen alongside using lightning to attack. Yet considering the Takeda and Miyamoto are related, it could be someone else entirely. What little we know of Caster could be from the palm crest on his back be Michizane Sugawara, a scholar and poet who held a high political position but was exiled before his death two years later. After which plauges, droughts, rainstorms, and floods struck Kyōto and caused a lot of deaths including the current Emperor’s sons. And lighting kept striking the Royal hall until a shine dedicated to him was erected to supposedly appease his spirit, all honors restored too. He was diefied decades later as Tenjin, a kami of sky, storms, and learning. Finally Lancer could be Jeanne Hatchette or Claude des Armosis. The former was named after the Saint and repelled an invasion on her hometown with a hatchet, snapping the invader’s banner with it. The second was a member of the Pope’s army and impersonated Jeanne for six years successfully including fooling the saint’s own brothers.
so i was looking up what kansho and bakuya looked like historically and i think i figured out a possible candidate for saber Gan Jiang the man who forged the swords
While I don't know when vitch aka koyanskaya will officially count as a tamamo nine member since as you mentioned before Nasu has a tendency to retcon or outright change his own canon just to do something needless convoluted and complicated at times for it to make sense. But when it comes to tamamo and her 9 variants who each possess a tail, I don't really look at it the way you described since it's just easier to look at it from the bride perspective given that's been the whole gimmick since cat aside from her weird cat dog combination is also seen as a more dedicated house wife compared to the OG, if and when Vitch is counted among those numbers she'd be the wife who knows how to be a successful in the work space area given her professionalism as a business woman and secretary, and Aria at least in terms to why she's a loli which has always been the case given there's a fate extra art book with the basic prototype designs of the tamamo nine and among them was a loli variant which is likely Aria. But at any rate the reason for the child like appearance may likely be more in reference to the fact child brides in this period of not only Japan but most parts of the world child brides very much existed and she likely represents that aspect with a couple of twists to the concept given type moon's need to overly complicate things because Nasu especially has a fear of keeping things simple. So assuming the game gave itself enough time to learn about these servants it'll be interesting to see but I think this is all more of an excuse to see who they'll add in the fgo roster later lol I'm more hoping for extra alternative costumes since if musashi is a berserker here then she needs her swimsuit damn it lol
I'll just say this: it would be cool to have Muramasa pop up in the same way Gilgamesh does, if Gil is a shop keeper like you think he is goat man, then I'm praying for Gear shop Muramasa, where you can buy weapons and upgrade those weapons.
Actually Saber is gonna prob be Yamato Takeru, Aka the japanese King arthur who got the sword by susanowo himself. Because he is the japanese king arthur they genderswap him and made an artoria face to go more meta
There is a story where he cross dressed as a maid to infiltrate a castle so... maybe an astolfo situation here (looks and sounds like a girl but has a monster energy drink for a lower abdominal stick)
Yamato got the sword from his aunt who is the head priestess of Amaterasu temple ( Susanoo give Kusaragi to Amaterasu after he kill Orochi and go back to heaven )
The Archer from China could be Zhou Yu. Who was a general during three kingdoms period of China. His noble phantasm shows elements of ships, chains, and fires. Which was all hint to the battle of red cliffs, where Zhou Yu decisively destroyed Cao Cao's superior fleet with a surprising fire attack.
There being a male Saber face is the most shocking thing to me this entire video. I figured it was just Japanese Artoria trying her hand at cross dressing like the original did...maybe. Maybe it is the opposite this time if henis a he yer has that alternate costume. But with FATE, you never really know until after the fact. Imagine MHX's commentary on a male with her face for a change. Haha. Somewhat joking aside, I am interested in this game. The Servants I'm most invested in are this new Saber, the Rouge Saber, "Jeanne", and of course, Mushashi.
Their is one detail on Jalter that hints that this is not the dragon witch, the lack of an ahoge. Jalter almost always appears with an ahoge so this is a very strange detail to leave out, especially since Jeanne is the D'Arc sister that always is shown to have said ahoge. Its one of the main details that shows that the saint of Orleans and dragon witch are not the same person, that their actually two different servants at their base level, which hints that this Jalter is the saint of Orleans. Now this could be the actual alter of Jeanne, the woman who did not die to fire but rather kept on fighting on as Jeanne herself speculated in apocrypha, or it could be that the current view of Jeanne as a witch and not as a saint is impacting how her servant version is summoned, or it could even be some sort of fate bullshit like "Oh this tragic man is so edgy that he can corrupt this saint whom not even beasts could corrupt!!!" Now I don't think that it is someone else impersonating Jeanne because 1. That's actually really stupid and takes away anything interesting about Jeanne or Jalter being in Edo Japan 2. Because an impersonator should also not have the ahoge for the same reason as Jalter and most importantly 3. because Fgo would not be able to make nearly as much money off a servant that looks excatlly like another servant down to the clothes instead of giving the supposed impersonator new clothes so she could be more markable from the outset.
There are different types of charm, while "alluring" in the Fate context definitely has sexual undertones, its hard to deny the appeal of a cute child sometimes.
Archer could be Zhou Yu from the Three kingdoms period in china, as he did one move Which practically involved burning chained ships of cao cao, Which does match up what we see in the PV
just a random wish I think the master of Jalter if that is her is maybe amakusa the clothes dont match sure but weve seen both rulers be at odds so an undead amakusa summoning jalter is pretty plausible.
I do have the strangest feeling that some of the servants might be Nasu No Yoichi, Honda Tadakatsu, and maybe like you said Takeda Shingen. Please let us see him.... or her. And please oh please give us that Musashi-chan skin. And I'm very sorry if that sounds so rambling.
Jalter's master looks like an edgier Angra Mainyu. Should have just kept her as an Avenger to avoid any confusion. If Caster's master is an onmioji then what we've seen from Caster themselves, makes me believe they'll probably be another version of Taisui Xingjun.
theres just one problem with that rider choice, takeda already has a design in GUDAGUDA ZIPANG, so unless this is an amour redesign then it might be someone else from his clan
I doubt they'd show us the full hand this early. I'm expecting/hoping for maybe a few servants after the 14 already there. If im wrong, thats fine. The roster seems pretty stacked as we are now. But I will always be hoping for Kojiro to be in the game, especially given Musashi's inclusion. The silhouettes for rogue caster and assassin really look like they couldn't be anyone but Circe and Old Man Li, and i doubt hed be the last Master Servant. It would be badass if they pull a shimousa and hes the final boss, but I doubt that. I just want him in the game.
He cared so much about that rivalry that after he killed Karna he kind of went on a downward spiral
Arjuna rather went on a whole ass quest rather than see a therapist
bro seriously had a 'now what' moment
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I think Saber is more likely Yamato Takeru given Susanoo is a divine spirit, not to mention the physical description matches Yamato to a T. A young man in silk robes androgynous enough to pass as a woman in one story to sneak into an enemy castle. Not to mention Yamato did hold the kusanagi for an extended period of time.
I also think it's Yamato. But for Susanoo, it's worth mentioning that while he is a god, he was reduced to the status of a human for a time. So him leaving the trace of a heroic spirit and not only a divine spirit in the throne is very likely
Then again, he solo'd Yamata No Orochi which is practically eight ibuki doujis so... @@goetiawasright6793
what if it's a pseudo-servant Susanoo using Yamato as a vessel?
Potentially, though given how pseudo servants usually operate it'd be a bit odd to make one using a servant we've never seen before. Then again it's Fate so anything is possible.
Bro my best guess on why he is Yamato takeru is because Yamato takeru is japanese king Arthur. And he looks exactly like arturia except a dude and japanese
I’d like to share an interesting theory I’ve seen an going around. According to the theory, this Jalter might actually be a pretender class Claude des Armoises, who tried to pretend to be Jeanne after the real Jeanne’s death.
but why would she appear as an edgy dark alter one, rather than the og jeanne
@@barghest8763Thé owner personality is why
There was actually a dozen of fake Jeannes after her death and some people believe a French spy in english ranks could have switched her with a lookalike before her execution, but that's completely baseless and impossible to prove
The profile for Jeanne's master pretty much says straight up that he is a survivor from the shimabara rebellion
That’s what I was gonna say
So his christian faith was the catalyst
@@Kumire_921i don't think it's just his Christian believe but his seething religious hatred. Instead of "O Lord, forgive thy enemies", it's "O Lord, vanquished thy enemies" or something like that
As much as I want the rogue saber to be Tomoe's husband, I have a strong feeling it could be her son
Mostly because Tomoe's husband would be too obvious and her Son's achievements in battle are quite impressive as well (apparently fought crocodiles or sharks) i forgot his name but yea it also fits that he'd have armor would be akin to his mother almost like carrying on her legacy
Yoshimune? Founder of the Kiso clan?
That said, I think he could actually be one of the Ashikagas (Minamoto, not Fujiwara), or one of their branches that used the same mon. If you look at the left bracer, there's what appears to be the Ashikaga mon.
obvious only to virgin fgo players
Asahina Yoshihide
Yoshimune: MA! MA! I GOT YOU A SHARK AND A CROCODILE!
Tome: Oh my goodneess.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec If I end up being right I can imagine all the memes of people calling him a pseudo-florida man purely for the fact that he fought some crocs
I would kill for Samson to be a servant, him and Cain are two biblical servants I've been wanting for years and years.
The irony of you saying "you'd kill for x servant", and the other servant you want being Cain, lol. I'm also excited for Samson.
@@ArkLazarusMaximus Listen man. We need the Murder Rock as a Noble Phantasm.
your wish has granted
Everyone's talking about Jalter, Assassin, Abe-No-Seimei.
I'm just glad we might finally get Samson :)
Amen!!!!
Who's Samson? Was he mentioned before?
@@EdmondDantes-ht2xbSamson is from the Bible; the 13th judge of Israel and their answer to Hercules.
Surprised that you didn’t mention that the master of archer is himself a famous figure in history as the founder of Taiwan as a Chinese Provence, ie someone who probably qualifies as a heroic spirit himself
Koxinga, the Pirate King of Taiwan?
I mean yeah......what makes samurai remnant different from the rest fate serieses is that master's here are also historical figures who can be qualified to become heroic spirit themselwvs or related to some at the very least.
Some people have also recognized the silhouettes of rouge Caster and Assassin have said they are most likely Circe and old man Li Shuwen
Yes it’s them
-Saber can also be Yamato Takeru. It would have credence thanks to that one episode where he disguised as a woman very convincingly. Either way, Susanoo or Yamato, the Kusanagi aka Ame-no-Murakumo (Cloud Gatherer) is involved for sure.
-Archer is not obvious at first, but in the latest trailer we saw what seems to be their Noble Phantasm: chains tying up boats before setting them on fire. That's most likely a recreation of Huang Gai's fake surrender to Cao Cao at the Battle of Red Cliffs. I don't think this Archer is Huang Gai however. I would either say Zhou Yu (who was the chief tactician of the Wu) or Pang Tong (who suggested to Cao Cao the chaining of his boats). The boat theme makes sense because his Master is Koxinga, the guy who booted out the Dutch from Taiwan with superior naval forces.
-Jeanne Alter being there I'm sure is a Waxing Moon shenanigan combined with Chiemon's desire for revenge.
-Rider... I'm not 100% because Gudaguda has its own Takeda Shingen BUT two instances can exist so... whatever, let's go! In any case, yes, 100% Takeda-related. ALSO: the Takeda are an off-shoot of the Minamoto, and we know the Minamoto gave into mech shenanigans.... Be ready for nonsense lol
-We did see Caster for 2 seconds in the latest trailer; from afar. It wears black and purple and I think had purple hair. That's all we got.
-Assassin is very likely Kouga Saburou, unless they pull some shenanigans and this is some non-Japanese snake guy that just happens to look like a ninja. I would love it if Orochi was in control of the body after all^^
-I'm glad your videos are not text-based, I wouldn't be able to comprehend what it is all about. Typing this message right is very difficult for me; only 4 fingers on each hand can reach the keys you know...
So from the future here.
Saber is most like a combination of Yamato Takeru with Susanao as Susanao has connection to the sea but never use the Kusanagi. Meanwhile Yamato used the Kusanagi but has little to no connection to the sea.
Jalter here is a lot more calm here than in FGO. Most likely this is Jeanne either gets corrupted or willingly corrupted to accompany her master.
Archer is The fire boat tactian as his NP is a battle scene of where he charge at his enemy and his boat is on fire.
Rider seems to be agree upon to be Mama Raikou or a Takeda who is a Raikou face and voice.
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec From an even more distant future here. I can't believe I was right about Lancer lol
@@HitsujiMamoruand you were right about Saber
My boy Cu is here, so I no doubt will love this game. With him here, everything else is essentially a neat to have side dish (Yes, Cu is my favorite character in Fate, how did you know?)
He never gets enough credit sometimes.
@@kohunley8359 I mean Cu is super popular, I used to think he wasn't but I'm glad I'm not alone in knowing who the best character in Fate is
Won’t lie to you, part of me hoped that EMIYA would appear as a stray servant just to keep up the tradition where whenever one gets summoned, the others tags along
imo , it's a 50-50 shot of either gilgamesh or EMIYA being the ruler overseeing this grail war.
@@rebeccalotto8001Ruler EMIYA? How's that gonna work?
@@julianrobertson1869 He's a Counter Force Guardian, so maybe they'll lean into that? Would be cool to see him fulfilling that role more explicitly, even if (maybe especially if) it robbed him of some of his personality and will.
@@SvafaBlackhand I know fgo tried to retcon a lot but I'm pretty sure he's not usually in a class container when on the clock for alaya. That said my main concern is that I don't think Emiya qualifies for ruler class.
@@julianrobertson1869 I totally get that. I mostly meant that being on the clock for Alaya was the only way I could think of him qualifying for Ruler (Alaya removing/overriding any desire for the grail). >
We do have a sillhouettes of Stray Caster and Stray Assassin though:
Based on their shape, They are definitely Circe and Old Li Shuwen.
Man if it's
Old Li Shuwen we gonna be eating good
I didnt get to see the silhouette, but was it assassin Oldman li or lancer? Cuz either way mans gonna mercing someone
@@elone4567assassin with his big coat
@@Lowen0611 ya best get ya plate ready then lol
it's time to PIGURETTO
For the Archer, he may be Zhou Yu judging by the NP scene of a flaming fleet which were chained together.
Hell yes we need more Three Kingdoms. I was thinking him or Xiahou Yuan
Few personal things
- Archer being Houyi was believable when he was first seen, but people have stopped believing that due to PV02 shows that Archer has the ability to summon chains, something Houyi has no association with. As of now, I haven't heard anyone having definite proof who he is, especially since people cannot tell if he is associated with boats or if the boats are unrelated.
- I think Lancer isn't Jeanne Alter, but rather Jeanne d'Arc Alter. She is too gloomy to be Jeanne Alter, she lacks her ahoge, and we know that her Noble Phantasm is an inversion of Luminosité Eternelle, a Noble Phantasm that only Jeanne and Gilles can use. And before people say "But Jeanne cannot become Alter"; first, this is not a Holy Grail War, but a Waxing Moon Ritual. Second, there are definite references to Makai Tensho here, like how Chiemon knows Mori Shouiken. Them going "this ritual is so evil, it even corrupted Jeanne d'Arc" sounds like perfect stake raiser.
- Rider is 100% Raikou. First, the fact that we don't know Rider's gender or voice actor makes it seem like revealing those details would give their identity away. Second, Rider's armor looks similar to Golden Huge Bear and Tametomo, two of Genji's Settsu Armors. Third, we see in PV02 some giant hoof crashing down from the skies. We don't know Rider's mount, and Raikou is the bull-demon Ushi-Gozen. And as for why it won't be Takeda Shingen, Shingen is 110% Keikenchi's character, so he is stuck in GUDAGUDA hell.
- I agree that Assassin is Kouga Saburou, but not that he is also Orochi in disguise. He is probably associated with Orochi as the origin of the snake curse, but if Chiyome isn't just Orochi's meat-puppet, then I think same applies to him.
The boats are on flame and chained together, which only leads to one certain battle in Chinese history in the period of three kingdoms
archer for me is Zhou Yu
He has everything releatad for me
Sorry for the bad english
Yeah I am 90% positive that Rogue Saber is Asahina Yoshihide, Tomoe and Yoshinaka's son as the Kamon is very similar to the one he used. The only other option I can think of is Ashikaga Takakuaji but neither one is an exact match to the Kamon used.
The archer highly like is Zhou Yu from the Three Kingdom saga.
In the latest trailer, it was shown that his NP feature Chinese junks, fire and chains, a definite nod to the Battle of Chi-Bi (Red Cliffs) as well as him saying "the wind is set"
Zhuo Gongjin would be an amazing add. More 3K servants are always welcome
I returned here to see how correct were the predictions:
Saber - miss.
Archer - miss.
Lancer - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard) but good job on correctly assuming master's background and how they are connected.
Rider - miss (but to be honest, I thought as well that he was Shingen before they revealed it was Raikou).
Caster - points for correctly predicting the organization that will his master belong.
Assassin - hit.
Berserker - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard).
Rogue Saber - hit.
Rogue Archer - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard).
Rogue Lancer - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard).
Rogue Rider - hit (although to be honest, it was not that hard).
Rogue Berserker - hit. Very nice prediction.
Overall not bad.
Im pretty sure the general consensus on our my saber is that he is yamato takeru. Highly doubt its susanoo.
It's interesting watching this a month after the game released and playing the game for myself.
They should’ve just had Ashiya Dōman as Caster or even rogue Caster
The Caster could be Seimei so we should hope
@@tonyinfinite5174 it would be about time they show him.
Well caster master look a lot like Ashiya honestly
Honestly, I'd be surprised if Caster or thier master wasn't Doman. With the timeline for Musashi's life, the story impact, and there not being a reason to hide Caster's design unless it would majorly impact story theories.
@@poke_dragon24 we already see caster design, he look youg with a cloud pattern in is clothes
4:18 ...well I mean, you're right Klidge. _The profile for Jalter's master on the Koei Tecmo site straight up says he's a survivor of the Shimabara rebellion_
Honestly I don't think Lancer is Jalter personally. My theory is that it's someone from the Crusades summoned through Jeanne be it accidental or a descendant of hers.
If that is Samson, I really hope we don't kill him. I would love to use him
2:55 just had to make sure we knew all 10 suns would rise 😂😂
I hope we get Muramasa in this game, if i recall one of the masters had a Muramasa blade.
Hey klidge I think master saber and assassin are like what Cu Chulain is for Odin and what Caeneus is for Poseidon, divine proxy. With saber probably being Yamato Takeru empowered by Susanoo and assassin probably being Koga Saburo empowered by Orochi. Also I think I saw Tamamo Aria (in the second trailer) with a large fox familiar and I think that’s her mount.
I think Saber is actually a she after I saw her new outfit and like most of people think, I think she is Yamato Takeru the last wielder of Kusanagi. While for Archer. He gave me a lot of general vipe. Instead of Hou yi. People think he is Zhou yu but my personal opinion is Yue fei.
While Shingen was also my first guess, I saw some convincing arguments for rider being Raikou. Their VA being the only one hidden despite being revealed (other than The master of Caster (heh) for whom they also hid their name) and Takeda being descendants of the Minamoto clan, which I didn.t know.
Raikou was a rider class servant in shimosa, so it's definitely a possibility. Also would be cool to finally see it as a different design than her Berserker form
Also, we see a giant hoove descending to stomp something in the new trailer, that hoove has a symbol associated with Indra. And Nasuverse Raikou is connected to Indra and bulls
I can't describe how Hyped I'm for this game
I subscribe to the theory, that Lancer is actually Claude des Armoises, the most famous Jeanne d'Arc imposter. I have no real proof. I just wanted her in Fate for a long time.
4:15 I don't think the term "crackpot theory" is applied to things that are explicitly stated. The sentence "He is a survivor of the great rebellion that once took place in Shimabara, Amakusa, that shook the peaceful era" is right there in his short description. You've read those, right? You talk about the stuff from Tamamo Aria's description...
My crackpot theory (as extension of Claude des Armoises theory) is that Lancer's Master actually isn't a Shimabara survivor, he just pretends to be one.
Rouge Saber possible identities
1. The obvious but also likely red herring, Yoshinaka.
2. The subtle chance it is Yoshihide, Yoshinaka, and Tomoe's son.
3. Sakanoue no Tamuramaro, the trailer shows him demanding where oni is, meaning Otakemaru could possibly be present in some form. In my opinion this is likely the true one as the sheath of Rouge saber has the same shape as Onikiri Yasutsuna (the sword of Tsuna) that originally belonged to Sakanoue.
Honestly I hope Nagao Kagetora gets added as DLC. The game needs a Japanese Lancer.
Honestly im just glad we have finally gotten another member of the tamamo nine . Even if she ends up Japanese mebd. Witch would make sense because we know that tamamo van be a very... Loving wife...
Also interesting, the plot is leaning heavenly on the amakusa shimabara rebellion aftermatch. That means at least saber could be involved in it. (the war banner of the rebels was grail btw).
The thing about Karna and Arjuna is that Karna was written without Arjuna from the get go. He was in CCC
Yamato Takeru is probably the saber servant tbh. He has Kusanagi and some of his legends even had him cross dress so it would explain the genderbend or at least the ambiguous gender.
Samson in FGO could be really cool.
his NP could be like arash where he kill himself but get a HUGE power mod.
and they can give him a skill that has a huge battery using the lore from when he asked god for the power to take out his enemies.
Caster’s master could be Douman and it is very likely that musashi would recognize him
If you are interessed in community prediction : general tought saber is yamato takeru archer is zhou yu
So this game contains: A master of archer named Chen Gong, an onmyoji as the caster master, and a loli that rides people.
Whatever happens, I'm scared.
Based on a recent trailer i am 99.9% shure archer is zhou yu from the three kingdoms. In the trailer for a second it shows what is clearly the battle of chibi (red cliffs) based on the fleet of burning ships, which is either Cao cao's fleet after being burned by ships faking a defection, or they are the ships that cause said fire. The plan was created by Zhuge liang and zhou yu to counter Cao cao's massive fleet. So our acher candidate makes sense since he had a huge role to play during that battle
On top of that since Archer is confirmed to be a man and zhou yu is described as being very handsome, litterally being named "Zhou yu the handsome" with all this evidince i think its safe to assume that Archer is in fact zhou yu
Also lets not forget this is a genuine warriors game. They got to add a dynasty warriors rep somehow.
love to see yasuke the first African American samurai as a servent perfect game to be in
I see some theories that saber could be Yamato Takeru too, but Susano'o would be pretty cool
Re: Assasin's connection with Orochi
If Iori's Saber is Yamato Takeru, it would also make sense for it to be connected to Orochi given there's a version of the story where Takeru is cursed by the God of Mt.Ibuki which is also how he died. Guess which god resides in Mt. Ibuki?
If you guessed Orochi, you're correct.
Saber could also be a pastiche of both Susanano and Takeru like how Skadi was Scáthach too, given they both held Kusanagi at some point.
I won't say much for the other Servants, but I do have my own theory about who the Saber is - Yes, Susanoo has a high probability of being the Saber since he was exiled from the heavens for a time, especially during his fight with the Yamata no Orochi (which is considered a Beast in its own right, very much like Daji and Ibuki-douji). However, here's my pick: Yamato Takeru.
My reasoning is that, while the Kusanagi is associated with Susanoo, it is also associated with members of the Japanese imperial family and Yamato Takeru was one such descendant and is Kusanagi's most prominent wielder - just because Susanoo also owns the sword, he never actually wielded it after he found it (to my knowledge, at least) and had given it to Amaterasu as a repentance present which allowed him to return to the heavens.
Also, Yamato Takeru also dressed as a maidservant to assassinate the Kumaso leaders during a drinking party, and since Waxing Moon Saber is a Saberface, it should be noted that the pseudo-historical legends of Yamato Takeru are considered almost Arthurian in origin due to shared traits from the magic sword (Excalibur and Kusanagi) to the defeat of an enemy once the swords exchanged hands to a female figure (the Lady of the Lake and a shrine maiden). Plus, it should be noted that, if we get an Assassin associated with the Orochi, then that figure will have reason to hold disdain for Saber: One legend holds Yamato Takeru "...blasphemed a local god of Mount Ibuki, which sits on the border of Ōmi Province and Mino Province. The god cursed him with disease and he fell ill."
However, Goatman, this is just a theory once I noted the similarities between Kusanagi and the secondary sword wielded by Saber. So, let me know what you think; your videos have given me some more understanding of the Servants, so I figured I'd offer this equally plausible theory.
3:45 yeah Avengers aren’t in grail wars hence why she’s a Lancer but I’m expecting this grail isn’t natural so I’m hoping she eventually turn into a avengers due to a abnormality in this grail war
saber is most likely yamato takeru who used the kusanagi, even renamed it kusanagi no tsurugi, or grasscutter sword, maybe he's a susano pseudo servant but not actually him
Saber is very clearly Yamato Takeru
Also Susanoo is one of the God that were fused into making Alterego Muramasa, and was also confirmed to be male
also one of the stories on Yamato Takeru is of him dressing as a maid to infiltrate an enemy's castle
this saber can pull it off (the alternae costume make saber quite more androgynous)
Yamato was also given silk robes from his aunt so they match saber well. The only thing that has me stumped is the use of water though that could just be the sword
Maybe their both similar to how some servants who have connections to certain gods can use their powers though I don’t know enough about Takeru to say if he has a connection to Susano but that’s my guess
@@JohnShepherd117 more to amaterasu than susanoo in the myth.
In fate amaterasu Is the last thing you want to have connection with
@@Zankyo137 interesting alright Fate might take creative liberties with this but what if Takeru has the blessings of multiple Japanese gods or NPs representing godly powers and Amaterasu abilities are a last resort just from their sheer power so Susano who if I’m not mistaken is Amaterasu’s brother is their go to powerhouse god for a powerful move
If, for lack of a better term, bound rider is Shingen, it's entirely possible that deviant saber is Kenshin because of their famous rivalry.
For Saber Susanoo is very unlikely, first Divin Spirit, second is design. That doesn't feat at all especially when they are a far more pertinent candidates : Yamato Takeru, he wield two different version of Kusanagi one related to Wind and the other to Rain (water). He is now to be a beautiful crossdresser and very brutal thay totally feat what we know yet.
Lancer is strange, they release a new Jalter interlude some time ago where she say she can't existed outside Chaldea, (also she lack of the hair) the sort manga released in the last magazine also go in this direction so they're two possibility : Jeanne d'Arc herself corrupted by Makai Tensho an ancient spell used by amakusa shiro in the book with same name to basically summon the dead like a servant (that's one of Fate inspiration and shimosa is an homage to this book) or she is one of the many fake Jeanne d'arc.
And Rider have a weird thing on her profile, her voice actor is hide so their two possibility. It's someone we already know or they hider the gender of Rider, for the second case it would make sense to be Takeda shingen because she is confirmed to be a girl in fgo.
But there and other possibility, Minamoto no Raikou, Rider use lighting, have an big armor similar to the one used by the Minamoto and in the last trailer we see a giant hoove, in Japan the only thing that could be related to this is Ushi Gozen the otherside of Raikou.
Sooo, could this be like... A male version of Raikou? Since afaik, alternate class versions of a character does not change their body
@@mirzapramudya1580 nah, you could be 99% sure this is a woman behind the armor
@@mathieu9236 where are her tits?
Her design lacks some Megamoto-no-Raikous
ah i see now, why some people said/specilate its actually pretender jeanne des armoises
10:01 timestamp for the fabled Yellow Mikon (also known as the Smol Mikon)
I've been wanting to see Samson for so long...
Also, what's up with Israelite servants having green hair?
Martha doesn't have green hair though.
Some pretty solid guesses all around. Though I think I have a guess at Archer, Caster, Rider, and Lancer.
Archer from what we have seen in the second trailer is probably Zhou Yu from the Romance of Three Kingdoms. With the fire and chains being a connection to his role at the Battle of Red Cliff.
Rider is like you said could be Takeda Shingen. But I believe they could also be Raikou or someone related to them. The armor conceals their whole body and they’re making an effort to hide Rider’s VA. Alongside the giant hood in the second trailer could be Ushi Gozen alongside using lightning to attack. Yet considering the Takeda and Miyamoto are related, it could be someone else entirely.
What little we know of Caster could be from the palm crest on his back be Michizane Sugawara, a scholar and poet who held a high political position but was exiled before his death two years later. After which plauges, droughts, rainstorms, and floods struck Kyōto and caused a lot of deaths including the current Emperor’s sons. And lighting kept striking the Royal hall until a shine dedicated to him was erected to supposedly appease his spirit, all honors restored too. He was diefied decades later as Tenjin, a kami of sky, storms, and learning.
Finally Lancer could be Jeanne Hatchette or Claude des Armosis. The former was named after the Saint and repelled an invasion on her hometown with a hatchet, snapping the invader’s banner with it. The second was a member of the Pope’s army and impersonated Jeanne for six years successfully including fooling the saint’s own brothers.
Personally I think Archer might be a Three Kingdoms archer. Someone like Xiahou Yuan
so i was looking up what kansho and bakuya looked like historically and i think i figured out a possible candidate for saber Gan Jiang the man who forged the swords
While I don't know when vitch aka koyanskaya will officially count as a tamamo nine member since as you mentioned before Nasu has a tendency to retcon or outright change his own canon just to do something needless convoluted and complicated at times for it to make sense. But when it comes to tamamo and her 9 variants who each possess a tail, I don't really look at it the way you described since it's just easier to look at it from the bride perspective given that's been the whole gimmick since cat aside from her weird cat dog combination is also seen as a more dedicated house wife compared to the OG, if and when Vitch is counted among those numbers she'd be the wife who knows how to be a successful in the work space area given her professionalism as a business woman and secretary, and Aria at least in terms to why she's a loli which has always been the case given there's a fate extra art book with the basic prototype designs of the tamamo nine and among them was a loli variant which is likely Aria. But at any rate the reason for the child like appearance may likely be more in reference to the fact child brides in this period of not only Japan but most parts of the world child brides very much existed and she likely represents that aspect with a couple of twists to the concept given type moon's need to overly complicate things because Nasu especially has a fear of keeping things simple. So assuming the game gave itself enough time to learn about these servants it'll be interesting to see but I think this is all more of an excuse to see who they'll add in the fgo roster later lol
I'm more hoping for extra alternative costumes since if musashi is a berserker here then she needs her swimsuit damn it lol
I'll just say this: it would be cool to have Muramasa pop up in the same way Gilgamesh does, if Gil is a shop keeper like you think he is goat man, then I'm praying for Gear shop Muramasa, where you can buy weapons and upgrade those weapons.
Actually I think the Assassin might be Orochimaru he as a legend that has him poison Jiraya and Tsunade while they slept very Assassin like.
7:37 honestly I always wondered about her adventures before and after she met Chaldea so any chance we can I vary happy to see it
"Some light altercations"
**alterations
Rogue berserker is so obviously Samson it isn’t even funny and I am SO HAPPY we finally have him, he’s by far one of the best semetic figures for Fate
Tiny Tamamo = Scary Tamamo. 😰
We had the same theory on rouge berserker due to the hair
Your crackpot theory is correct
And the first reveal of Chiemon (jalter’s master) it is stated he survived the Shimabara rebellion
I’m thinking Saber there is Yamato Takeru. I can name a lot of connection between them and Arthur/Artoria.
Actually Saber is gonna prob be Yamato Takeru, Aka the japanese King arthur who got the sword by susanowo himself.
Because he is the japanese king arthur they genderswap him and made an artoria face to go more meta
There is a story where he cross dressed as a maid to infiltrate a castle so... maybe an astolfo situation here (looks and sounds like a girl but has a monster energy drink for a lower abdominal stick)
Yamato got the sword from his aunt who is the head priestess of Amaterasu temple ( Susanoo give Kusaragi to Amaterasu after he kill Orochi and go back to heaven )
@@hatorihorrus forgot the temple was for amaterasu, mb
there is no way Saber is not yamato takeru, and Archer should be Zhou yu because flame chain and boat.
The opening animation is out now. Might be worth doing a breakdown if you're interested.
The Archer from China could be Zhou Yu. Who was a general during three kingdoms period of China. His noble phantasm shows elements of ships, chains, and fires. Which was all hint to the battle of red cliffs, where Zhou Yu decisively destroyed Cao Cao's superior fleet with a surprising fire attack.
A new Tamamo from the Tamamo nines is always nice to see.
Unless they took major liberties with his legend, Hou Yi doesn't seem like the type of Archer who would "shoot out" chains.
I just want tamamo Aria man... she is cute and needs headpats plus hugs. I always wonder who the final boss to this game is.
There being a male Saber face is the most shocking thing to me this entire video.
I figured it was just Japanese Artoria trying her hand at cross dressing like the original did...maybe. Maybe it is the opposite this time if henis a he yer has that alternate costume. But with FATE, you never really know until after the fact. Imagine MHX's commentary on a male with her face for a change. Haha.
Somewhat joking aside, I am interested in this game. The Servants I'm most invested in are this new Saber, the Rouge Saber, "Jeanne", and of course, Mushashi.
Our Saber being Susano makes sense considering that we will end up fighting Yamato-no-Orochi at some point in the story.
Their is one detail on Jalter that hints that this is not the dragon witch, the lack of an ahoge. Jalter almost always appears with an ahoge so this is a very strange detail to leave out, especially since Jeanne is the D'Arc sister that always is shown to have said ahoge. Its one of the main details that shows that the saint of Orleans and dragon witch are not the same person, that their actually two different servants at their base level, which hints that this Jalter is the saint of Orleans. Now this could be the actual alter of Jeanne, the woman who did not die to fire but rather kept on fighting on as Jeanne herself speculated in apocrypha, or it could be that the current view of Jeanne as a witch and not as a saint is impacting how her servant version is summoned, or it could even be some sort of fate bullshit like "Oh this tragic man is so edgy that he can corrupt this saint whom not even beasts could corrupt!!!"
Now I don't think that it is someone else impersonating Jeanne because 1. That's actually really stupid and takes away anything interesting about Jeanne or Jalter being in Edo Japan 2. Because an impersonator should also not have the ahoge for the same reason as Jalter and most importantly 3. because Fgo would not be able to make nearly as much money off a servant that looks excatlly like another servant down to the clothes instead of giving the supposed impersonator new clothes so she could be more markable from the outset.
So cu again i guess we can expect "Lancer ga Shinda " again
There are different types of charm, while "alluring" in the Fate context definitely has sexual undertones, its hard to deny the appeal of a cute child sometimes.
Archer could be Zhou Yu from the Three kingdoms period in china, as he did one move Which practically involved burning chained ships of cao cao, Which does match up what we see in the PV
We found out that the Caster Master is a descendant of Abe no Seimei, so the onmyouji part is correct. We also got the design for the Caster Servant.
I'm sorry for the double post, but this one might be a long shot. Maybe the prisoner berserker is Kanbei Kuroda?
I honestly don't care what class any servant is put in as long as they are in, and they are eventually put into their appropriate class.
He a Prophet for me
I bet my money that the caster is Ashiya Douman
3:41 that man reminds me of dante from yugioh
I love banned from playground musashi
just a random wish I think the master of Jalter if that is her is maybe amakusa the clothes dont match sure but weve seen both rulers be at odds so an undead amakusa summoning jalter is pretty plausible.
Guessing by the silhouette of the Master's Caster, it's more than likely Taigong Wang.
Wait but we know who the rogue caster and assassin are based of their silhouettes
I do have the strangest feeling that some of the servants might be Nasu No Yoichi, Honda Tadakatsu, and maybe like you said Takeda Shingen. Please let us see him.... or her. And please oh please give us that Musashi-chan skin.
And I'm very sorry if that sounds so rambling.
Remember how Archer is always summoned when Cu is? We might get him as like DLC or something.
7:10 Klidge is the GOAT. 100% True. All hail the Udon Girl(btw I grailed her LV100 already).
3:40 GONG
I thought the last one was Samson too.
Jalter's master looks like an edgier Angra Mainyu. Should have just kept her as an Avenger to avoid any confusion. If Caster's master is an onmioji then what we've seen from Caster themselves, makes me believe they'll probably be another version of Taisui Xingjun.
Not gonna lie, when I saw rogue berserker my guess was Theseus, but I like your theory more
So a video on shingen now that he is here and also Kagetora/ kenshin
im willing to be that eithe gilgamesh or archer emiya could be the ruler overseeing this war.
theres just one problem with that rider choice, takeda already has a design in GUDAGUDA ZIPANG, so unless this is an amour redesign then it might be someone else from his clan
I would laugh if Rider is just Raikou.
Edit: update, the Trailer showed it’s mostly Raikou.
I doubt they'd show us the full hand this early. I'm expecting/hoping for maybe a few servants after the 14 already there. If im wrong, thats fine. The roster seems pretty stacked as we are now. But I will always be hoping for Kojiro to be in the game, especially given Musashi's inclusion. The silhouettes for rogue caster and assassin really look like they couldn't be anyone but Circe and Old Man Li, and i doubt hed be the last Master Servant. It would be badass if they pull a shimousa and hes the final boss, but I doubt that. I just want him in the game.