one of the most awesome (and sad) cliffhangers ever. When Cindy visits Scott to tell him good nite and everything will be alright, then her spirit disappears by the door.
I remember being a freshman in HS, and having an anxiety attack just waiting to run home and rewind my vhs tape to watch this show every day, but especially on the good days. Cindy looks like the twin of Def Leppard guitarist Phil Collen. And I always remember a scene where Stuart cries so hard over Cindy that he gets a 12" line of snot all over the place and he whips around to try and hide it a little. I figured it would be this scene but it's not there. Funny how I can remember that 30+ years later like it was yesterday.
Thanks for the upload !! Nice to see Ellen Wheeler back on another soap since leaving Another world in 1986.. And play ANOTHER set of twins On Another soap !! And also Work woth Ed G. Who was on AW in 1981..
Dear God! Hard to believe that Peter Bergman would soon get Fired and on Debbi Morgan's recomendation he became one of the most successful Recasts as Jack Abbott #2 on The Young & The Restless.
When he was in The Cottage and saw the Painting Of Cindy he made just for her and he had Tears of Happiness & Sadness in his eyes, that alone was not only one of the best scenes in the History of All My Children but in US Soap History.
If you want to see a heartbreaking Storyline about HIV/AIDS check out Eastenders A UK Soap that focused on the lives of a group of Folks who live in the fictitious Walford that was inspired by the Economical Problems that England faced in the 1980's. Mark Fowler tells his Parents Pauline & Arthur Fowler that he has HIV that nobody knew about in the mid 1980's. When he goes to get a Beer at The Queen Victoria Pub aka The Vic, Peggy Mitchell The Owner screams "Get Out Of My Pub!" That storyline really educated folks about the disease.
@@organicaffiliatehub Yes, that's the situation with Twins. Stuart knew Adam better than he knew himself. He reminded him about looking down on people who weren't as fortunate as him. He reminded them about how they were considered "Trash" in Pigeon Hollow Virginia and how they were called that.
I’m glad Cindy’s spirit returned from time to time. This episode got a lot of flack from the audience because they said that they didn’t portray an AIDS victim’s death correctly or realistically.
Ellen Wheeler was pure joy as Cindy. AMC did a good job with this story line at this point and time in the late 80s when AIDS was such a prominent and feared sickness. As usual Stuart was practically the only one person who was Adam's Achilles heel. Even though he tried to run Cindy off in fear for Stuart, Adam came around to care for her. Didn't Skye also try to come between Stuart and Cindy? I just don't remember. I DO remember that Cindy was so well liked at the Glamorama until people learned of that sickness. I only remember that bitch Enid Nelson was one who spread the word about it as I am sure other characters did as well. Enid always stuck in my mind because she was one of AMC's most horrendous characters the writers ever came up with and Natalie Ross played her so well.
Stuart was such a wonderful Uncle to Ross. Remember how he went to Juvie for something Ross did when they were children. I think it was hitting someone with a Rock hurting them.
You know what's also so sad. The Club Owner Steve Rubell who co owned Studio 54 back in the day died of AIDS, and then a couple of MOnths later Halston (1932-1990) would also die of the disease. He was the First Fashion Designer to die of the disease. Others would be Perry Ellis, Patrick Kelly & Willi Smith
I remember this storyline so well. Sad, heartbreaking, but excellent acting by all. One question. Anyone have the scenes after this with Angie and Cliff? I remember a scene with them in the room after Cindy was taken out. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
I couldn't find that But here is Cindy's memorial including Angie's eulogy: th-cam.com/video/6dTt60TYjsM/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/1UGk-7KGwjI/w-d-xo.html
@@makeittrue I'm sure that this was a very controversial Storyline. In the UK They did an AIDS Storyline where Mark Fowler got it on The Soap Opera Eastenders when he had unsafe sex. It was around this time as well and folks still didn't know much about it. Peggy Mitchell who ran the Neighborhood Bar The Queen Victoria aka "The Vic" shouted "Get Out Of My Pub" and it angered alot of fans but they wanted to show how easy it was to not know about HIV/AIDS. Sadly enough his Character would die off Screen.
Amen to that! I don't think Karen stayed around too long. I am guessing her character was not very popular....especially, after Cindy being such a loving character.
Stuart: "She's With Lottie" Adam: "You Made Her Happy". Why couldn't you take tips on how to make a person happy Adam. Maybe if you did, you wouldn't have had all of this drama.
@@tricet1000 Very Good! In fact it was Debbi Morgan who encouraged Peter Bergman to audition to play Jack Abbott #2 on The Young & The Restless. Best move and now he's been on the show for 31 Years.
@@laminage Really? I thought it was because Peter was fired due to a writers strike putting the kibosh on the Cliff/Angie pairing, and Debbi quit AMC in protest of that decision.
@@brklyn345 That was true as well but to some die hard Fans it was always Cliff & Nina the same way it was always Angie & Jesse. It was also during that time that Debbie Morgan decided to do Generations on NBC because she liked the fact that it was a Fully Integrated Cast. It was The Second Time she worked with Kristoff St. John (Ex Adam Marshall). She played Chantal Marshall #2 who may have been the "Real" Daughter of the Man that her Grandmother Mama Viv worked for. The first time she worked with him was in Roots The Next Generations where he played "Young Alex Haley" and then of course on The Young & The Restless as Yolanda #2.
@@brklyn345 The writer's strike was the year prior to this. Jesse's death was written during that time, in the absence of the actual writing team. Cliff's reuniting with Nina occurred because Peter Bergman was let go - along with Robert Gentry (Ross) and others. ABC tightened the budget and AMC's cast was pretty spread out.
I was so touched by the love between Cindy and Stuart.
Stuart/Cindy still remains as my favorite storyline. Kudos to the late, great David Canary, and to Agnes Nixon for fighting for this story to be told.
OMG, I didn't even know David Canary was dead! This is how I find out? :-(
They got a little flak for having Cindy not look sick. People that die of AIDS usually have sores, etc. She didn’t.
And kudos to Nixon's protege Lorraine Broderick, the head writer who created Cindy and helmed the storyline from start to finish.
@@tjames9698 not all people with AIDS don't have sores ect. I've taken care of them and some do look just like this.
I loved Mr. Canary as Stuart. The softness in his eyes made me remember my Dad.
💗
When her spirit came to see her son, my heart broke. 😢
Bravo to the great david canary....and the terrific editors of the show.
I totally forgot this story line. Wow, thanks for the memories - AMC, the best soap opera aired, gone but not forgotten.
one of the most awesome (and sad) cliffhangers ever. When Cindy visits Scott to tell him good nite and everything will be alright, then her spirit disappears by the door.
Watching these old scenes just reminds me how great AMC was. So sad how crazy it got towards the end. Classic daytime tv.
I loved the way Adam was so ferocious in supporting Cindy here.
I remember being a freshman in HS, and having an anxiety attack just waiting to run home and rewind my vhs tape to watch this show every day, but especially on the good days. Cindy looks like the twin of Def Leppard guitarist Phil Collen. And I always remember a scene where Stuart cries so hard over Cindy that he gets a 12" line of snot all over the place and he whips around to try and hide it a little. I figured it would be this scene but it's not there. Funny how I can remember that 30+ years later like it was yesterday.
David Canary was so good.
Thank you David for this moment 6:30-6:45 R.I.P.
He was an AMAZING actor.
I love Stuart and the world needs more Stuarts
Made me cry then, made me cry now. One of the best scenes ever!
I refuse to watch this at 12:50 in the morning; I will not get any sleep. It tugs too much at my heartstrings.
All these years later and that still makes me cry.
Thanks for the upload !! Nice to see Ellen Wheeler back on another soap since leaving Another world in 1986.. And play ANOTHER set of twins On Another soap !! And also Work woth Ed G. Who was on AW in 1981..
Dear God! Hard to believe that Peter Bergman would soon get Fired and on Debbi Morgan's recomendation he became one of the most successful Recasts as Jack Abbott #2 on The Young & The Restless.
Ross to Cindy ..We Will Take Care Of Him.. Got Me ❤
Thanks so much for uploading this! What a powerful story AMC told here with Stuart/Cindy.
I cried so hard. I felt SO bad for Stuart
When he was in The Cottage and saw the Painting Of Cindy he made just for her and he had Tears of Happiness & Sadness in his eyes, that alone was not only one of the best scenes in the History of All My Children but in US Soap History.
Adam loved Stuart so much.
If you want to see a heartbreaking Storyline about HIV/AIDS check out Eastenders A UK Soap that focused on the lives of a group of Folks who live in the fictitious Walford that was inspired by the Economical Problems that England faced in the 1980's. Mark Fowler tells his Parents Pauline & Arthur Fowler that he has HIV that nobody knew about in the mid 1980's. When he goes to get a Beer at The Queen Victoria Pub aka The Vic, Peggy Mitchell The Owner screams "Get Out Of My Pub!" That storyline really educated folks about the disease.
I think he was the only person Adam loved besides himself.
@@organicaffiliatehub Yes, that's the situation with Twins. Stuart knew Adam better than he knew himself. He reminded him about looking down on people who weren't as fortunate as him. He reminded them about how they were considered "Trash" in Pigeon Hollow Virginia and how they were called that.
Love how Cindy said that Angie’s husband, Jesse, was in Heaven.
Debbie Morgan almost made me cry omg
I’m glad Cindy’s spirit returned from time to time. This episode got a lot of flack from the audience because they said that they didn’t portray an AIDS victim’s death correctly or realistically.
Ellen Wheeler was pure joy as Cindy. AMC did a good job with this story line at this point and time in the late 80s when AIDS was such a prominent and feared sickness. As usual Stuart was practically the only one person who was Adam's Achilles heel. Even though he tried to run Cindy off in fear for Stuart, Adam came around to care for her. Didn't Skye also try to come between Stuart and Cindy? I just don't remember. I DO remember that Cindy was so well liked at the Glamorama until people learned of that sickness. I only remember that bitch Enid Nelson was one who spread the word about it as I am sure other characters did as well. Enid always stuck in my mind because she was one of AMC's most horrendous characters the writers ever came up with and Natalie Ross played her so well.
Stuart was such a wonderful Uncle to Ross. Remember how he went to Juvie for something Ross did when they were children. I think it was hitting someone with a Rock hurting them.
That was a touching scene with Stuart and Scott with Cindy before she went to be with the Lord.
Sad beautiful
Love sweet
You know what's also so sad. The Club Owner Steve Rubell who co owned Studio 54 back in the day died of AIDS, and then a couple of MOnths later Halston (1932-1990) would also die of the disease. He was the First Fashion Designer to die of the disease. Others would be Perry Ellis, Patrick Kelly & Willi Smith
I wanna love like that
Brothers cool
😭
I remember this storyline so well. Sad, heartbreaking, but excellent acting by all. One question. Anyone have the scenes after this with Angie and Cliff? I remember a scene with them in the room after Cindy was taken out. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
I couldn't find that But here is Cindy's memorial including Angie's eulogy: th-cam.com/video/6dTt60TYjsM/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/1UGk-7KGwjI/w-d-xo.html
Let's just see how Pine Valley will It's not a day time show it comes on at nightime
both won emnys
Actually, the producers were criticized for not having Cindy's death more realistic RE: more physically ravaged by the disease.
Having lost a friend to AIDS, I agree. But they never would have been allowed to air in back then.
@@VeracityLH Totally correct.
@@makeittrue I'm sure that this was a very controversial Storyline. In the UK They did an AIDS Storyline where Mark Fowler got it on The Soap Opera Eastenders when he had unsafe sex. It was around this time as well and folks still didn't know much about it. Peggy Mitchell who ran the Neighborhood Bar The Queen Victoria aka "The Vic" shouted "Get Out Of My Pub" and it angered alot of fans but they wanted to show how easy it was to not know about HIV/AIDS. Sadly enough his Character would die off Screen.
I liked how Cindy's ghost showed up from time to time, but didn't like Karen, though.
Amen to that! I don't think Karen stayed around too long. I am guessing her character was not very popular....especially, after Cindy being such a loving character.
I don't remember Karen, who was Karen
Cindy's twin sister.
@@brendalovesmariah They tried to do another Marley/Vicky from Wheeler’s time on “Another World” and it didn’t work.
Stuart: "She's With Lottie" Adam: "You Made Her Happy". Why couldn't you take tips on how to make a person happy Adam. Maybe if you did, you wouldn't have had all of this drama.
Did Angie and Cliff have a thing or something, refresh my memory!
Yes , they even were engaged briefly and then Nina came back. Nina and Cliff left Pine Valley.
@@tricet1000 Very Good! In fact it was Debbi Morgan who encouraged Peter Bergman to audition to play Jack Abbott #2 on The Young & The Restless. Best move and now he's been on the show for 31 Years.
@@laminage Really? I thought it was because Peter was fired due to a writers strike putting the kibosh on the Cliff/Angie pairing, and Debbi quit AMC in protest of that decision.
@@brklyn345 That was true as well but to some die hard Fans it was always Cliff & Nina the same way it was always Angie & Jesse. It was also during that time that Debbie Morgan decided to do Generations on NBC because she liked the fact that it was a Fully Integrated Cast. It was The Second Time she worked with Kristoff St. John (Ex Adam Marshall). She played Chantal Marshall #2 who may have been the "Real" Daughter of the Man that her Grandmother Mama Viv worked for. The first time she worked with him was in Roots The Next Generations where he played "Young Alex Haley" and then of course on The Young & The Restless as Yolanda #2.
@@brklyn345 The writer's strike was the year prior to this. Jesse's death was written during that time, in the absence of the actual writing team. Cliff's reuniting with Nina occurred because Peter Bergman was let go - along with Robert Gentry (Ross) and others. ABC tightened the budget and AMC's cast was pretty spread out.
Get out the hankies☹️
Jesse is not in heaven. Lol.
justmerosie Nobody knew that then though,lol.
What did Cindy died from !?
She died of hiv that turned into Aids.
Aids complications
I don't like Cindy. She doesn't deserve Stuart. No one loves Stuart more than I do!😚