If you are depressed because you live with malignant narcissistic /alcoholic partner or parent or you are bullied at work, etc.... antidepressant pills can only conceal your trouble but won't solve your problems, you must get free from abusive relationships in your life to recover and find your balance.
Lifestyle changes are nigh impossible under the weight of depression. In fact, upholding one’s usual lifestyle is impossible, let alone making lifestyle changes.
The symptoms I get taking any antidepressants is similar to serotonin syndrome my jaw judders and I twitch. Sertraline is the worst I had to have a doctor come out to me and give diazepam to counteract it. I have ptsd, anxiety disorder and depressive mood. And not 1 antidepressants helps me and I've tried them all. Currently taking escitalopram and amitriptyline but still don't feel any better so I believe this woman is right.
@Kirsty G33 that is horrible to experience, have the doctors figured out why you react so badly to Sertraline.I have family who take it with no ill side effects & it has transformed their lives for the better.
Omg I twitch as well !! I have had people tell me how great sertaline is but it just makes me twitch I don’t like any of the anti depressants all I get are horrible side effects x
Anti-depressants need to be for the short term, just to give your brain a break not for long term use. They helped me at first for about a year then I felt they were making me worse so I just stopped taking them and just learned that I just have to take the bad with the good, best decision I ever made
Speaking as someone who has had problems with depression and over the years has become less troubled by it, I can say this: Depression is not only a reaction to life circumstances -- Some people can experience the same life circumstances and not find themselves in a vicious cycle of depression. Depression is a vicious cycle which starts with the belief that sadness and hopelessness are completely unhealthy emotions which are not about anything meaningful in the person's life and serve no adaptive purpose. It is possible to see depression as a normal, valid response to great loss or to feeling stuck: People without problems with depression still feel depressed when something depressing happens in their life. They don't see the depression as something that needs to be eliminated, and the depression lasts as long as it needs to. People can develop a problem with depression, though, when they start to shame themselves harshly for their natural and valid feelings. They see these feelings as unacceptable and try to come up with ways of eliminating the feelings rather than making sense of them, listening to their meaning, and letting the feelings be. When they find that they are not able to eliminate the feelings, they feel devastated because they believe that healthy people are capable of getting rid of feelings. Now they are depressed about being depressed. This is how the vicious cycle is created: they see the feeling of depression itself as an occasion to feel more depressed. It's a disheartening problem, and it's really helpful to have someone to talk to who has been through it and gotten over it. There's even one more important layer of a depression problem: People can often already see that they are making things harder for themselves by trying to eliminate their feelings. So now we beat up on ourselves for beating up on ourselves! Now we're stuck in a double-bind: We say to ourselves, "I must stop feeling depressed or I'll never recover!" AND "I must allow myself to feel depressed or I'll never recover!" Recovering from depression is a gradual journey where we try to go easier on ourselves about our normal and valid feelings of sadness -- and at the same time we try to go easy on ourselves for not being able to perfectly go easy on ourselves. It's okay to be where we're at and to have a depression problem. We're not failures or beyond hope. Everybody has a problem of some kind. As we recover, we start to say more permissive and accepting things to ourselves such as, "I'd like to feel good, but I'll try to be accepting of my feelings whatever they may be," and, "I can go ahead and get back into my life even while I'm feeling depressed." Those of us with depression problems can get stuck when we put more effort than is needed into feeling a certain way (i.e. happy all the time) and less effort than is needed into tending to the areas of our lives that our important to us. We get stuck because we say things like, "I just need to get over this depression, and then I'll get back into my life." But if we are depressed about what's going on in our lives, then we can expect to feel better *after* we get back into lives, not the other way around. Recovering from depression is not as simple as taking a pill or reading one book, but it is possible. The more we can appreciate and validate the complexity of our problems, the better are our chances of learning to make peace with our feelings and leading lives of increasing purpose and richness. It's about getting on a path of "better and better" where small, incremental, doable improvements add up to a person saying, "Wow, I used to be troubled, and over the years I've become way less troubled. I'm definitely on the right track."
Exactly right. It sounds like a teenage stoner cliche but I don’t care, the high functioning and most sane in the world are the real weirdos. Work your whole life, lose everyone you love and eventually yourself to some painful biological demise. Not much to be skipping down the road about is it?
Best long term solution (personal experience) is to identify and eliminate the people and situations that are dragging you down, not easy. The other side of this is chemical, dumping the junk food (optimal nutrition), perhaps even using an elimination diet and exercising, getting out and socialising, finding a focus in life.
@@davidgifford8112 i eliminated the situations and people who felt like was dragging me down, now theres no one left ! its lonely, but i suffer less, havnt tried any diet solutions and probably never will, thats where i get most of my dopamine
There is researched evidence that increasing physical activity can help treat low to moderate depression. So, ask your GP to be referred to exercise instead of antidepressants. Choose movement medicine.
Perhaps it would be more beneficial to do a study on how our food is treated. Our soil is lacking so many minerals now, the crops are sprayed with chemicals, most food has “added vitamins and minerals” which means “fortified” made in a laboratory, not to mention all processed food and what our water goes through to be treated for drinking 🤢 Japan does well, 3 things they will check when someone visits their doctor with signs of mental health issues. Check for UTI, Vitamin B12 deficiency and Vitamin D deficiency these are the 3 main causes. In Britain now they have lowered the numbers when getting bloods done to show a deficiency. For instance Ferritin used to be 24 as low normal, if your level was 21 the Dr would advise you to take Iron as you were heading towards Anemia. Now they have the low normal set at 15 🤕 a whole lot of very sick people before the Dr’s will recommend help. It’s so very sad 😢
Hospital told me that it was impossible to be vitamin deficient in England, as food is available. And there were NO studies on this. Thanks great A & E!
Life, environment doesn't change cos of anti depressants, simply suppresses you to accept it It was constant abuse that started mine so that's not a medical in balance, it was a normal human reaction, Off now, after 27yrs,taken me 13mths My life has changed so I have changed. Withdrawing was hell but not as bad as why I went on them in the first place..
Because ALL research grants expect the results that they paid to get from the research. And the truth is discounted completely. That is how the 'science' works now
Fauci gave $70 million in research grants to colleges, last year & all those completely changed their minds, from believing that covid was developed in a lab, to a naturally occurring virus. Proving money is magical ingredient of science!
Wow! First she said her research isn't about what causes depression then goes on to say that the cause is about life circumstances. That may be the case in some but she shouldn't be putting that thought into peoples heads as it is not always the case. There is a huge connection between epilepsy and depression in people that have perfectly happy lives in general. Medications for epilepsy can also cause depression. I'm not saying antidepressants are the answer but this guess that she is making can lead to a person's support network to think that someone has depression because they aren't coping emotionally with hardships which can lead to people to tell someone to harden up. You can't put everyone with depression in the same basket it is more complicated than that!!!
I personally think that many lifelong mental health problems start in childhood. If we started whole class grief counselling lessons, an hour per week, from 3 until 18, to give people the tools & the words to deal with grief, we could change things radically. Learning to deal with your emotions is far more important than learning about sex & teaching sex education, without how first to deal with ALL your human emotions is just grooming children to experiment with things that they are not physically, mentally or emotionally equipped to deal with. Let's drop the sex classes, at least until teenagers, it is far more important to support their emotional well being first & foremost.
Took anti depressants and I was numb and felt terrible side effects. I wasn't living or feeling. Counselling (please talk to someone) and healthy diet (serotonin rich foods) hormone balance all helps depending on your type of depression and severity. It's a horrible thing to experience and hope all who suffer get the right help even if you need to take the anti depressants for a while and they work as we are all different but get some help💚
You clearly haven’t grasped why anti-depressants aren’t the cure for depression, have you? Why would ‘seratonin rich foods’ make a difference when these new studies have shown that seratonin producing drugs are in no way a cure for depression?
Anti depressants not changing depressed peoples mood at all, actually makes you feel worse, as the person taking them. People expect you to not become depressed in the first instance. Secoundly they expect your pills to 'fix' you, making you a double failure, by not being fixed. In other peoples eyes & even in your opinion of yourself. A failure.
@ OOBE I exercised, gymming regularly & became a vegetarian, then I developed Anaphylaxis life threatening allergy to multiple fruits & vegetables, oh & made my arthritis much worse & have 2 slipped discs now & wrecked my knees.Yep, what did help medication for my PTSD & Blackout Rage.I firmly believe finding the right medication for you as an individual is key.I have family members with bi polar the difference when they have the right meds to when they didn’t have any meds is shocking.Remember the cost of antidepressants is a big factor here, the “same findings” where found with pain meds, although I have never heard anyone with arthritis say pain medication didn’t help them!!
@@evaeden5820 No,AD do way more harm than good.It doesnt help with depression at all,it has horrible side effects and if you try to stop taking it,well good luck with that.It only reduce anxiety.Considering there are much better options to fight depression (and addiction)which were banned 60 years ago,this is a crime against humanity.
THE NHS DON'T REALISE WHAT LEVEL OF DAMAGE THEY HAVE DONE REGARDING PRESCRIBING MEDICATION FOR MENTAL HEALTH. THESE MEDICATION'S ARE KNOWN TO SHORTEN A PERSON'S LIFE EXPECTANCY. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO YOUR RESEARCH CAREFULLY IN LIFE ON ANY SITUATION YOU DEAL WITH NO MATTER WHAT.
Depression is a long term disease that has been trivialised to a day of feeling bad, the people who actually suffer with depression are largely ignored now or confined to a statistic, this became more evident less than 12 months ago when the GPs were sent on a box ticking exercise to contact said community, some doctor rang me up and was just asking questions, one suggestion was to move house ! lmao im in no position to move anywhere ! im broke ! next suggestion was to make daily outings, i know this ! i just dont want to go outside ! then as he snooped more into my personal life i was basically accused of being addicted to games lol, i mean anyone with the slightest bit of empathy let alone walking around with the title doctor should see that as escapism ! box ticking nobodys dealing with peoples mental health have no idea !, so while we sit here and point blame at the meds i think theres plenty to be pointed at the institution and the people who work in it
I disagree. Depression is being unhappy for a long time. People don't want to accept they may have to change habits and behaviors to become happy. It is sooo much easier to say I have a broken brain please give me happy pills.
I agree. One of my friends was kept on anti depressants for more than thirty years. When gov changed their policy, they spent a year weaning him off the, but he started having hallucinations, among other side effects of being off these drugs. And they had to put him back on them, because his body could not cope without these drugs. Even on them, he would have dark depressions & attempted suicide many times. Also had electric shock therapy, to make his psychiatrist 'feel better'.
In England. Was sectioned myself in 2004. And it was depressing to learn, from other patients, who had been going through this system for up to 20 years, (some yearly sectioned!), that patients STILL had to work hard to make their psychiatrists feel like they're doing a grand job! Without doing so, you will not be considered for release, as praising your doctor for helping & other staff proves your 'wellness!' Like innocent people (in America), do not get early parole, because you have to show remorse for your crime to qualify. So the guilty play the system & the innocent do their entire sentences.
I got unsectioned, while on the run. Just as well, because I cannot lie (phobic!) & cannot tell lies to stroke ego's the right way. Thought I would be stuck there forever. Dangerous places. One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest. Too many volts, is any electricity killing your brain cells! And psychiatrists only have to get a secound one to back up their call, if patients refuse this 'treatment' & you're outvoted!!!
@Atillia the Hungry Try not to be so glib, survivors of Paedophile sexual abuse, of rape, of emotional & physical abuse, don’t want “Happy Pills” they need release from the daily torment & pain they battle with through no fault of their own.The right medication can make the difference between life & death, misery & despair or stabilising their life’s & clawing back their futures.
It wasn't until our 12 year old daughter attempted suicide with her dad's pain medicines (that were expired since he didn't take them because they didn't work) were we made aware one of the "pain killers" was an antidepressant. So, the doctor didn't believe he was in real pain?!
Some, like amitryptiline and pregabalin are multipurpose and can be used to treat pain as well as depression and anxiety, so perhaps that's why he was on something like that? Hope your daughter's ok and getting help now.
In the UK, to claim ESA or PIP for depression or anxiety, Ive heard that DWP are considering whether to impose a rule that you must be receiving treatment for said condition. If SSRIs are only 10 percent more effective than placebo, and may come with long term harmful side effects/consequences, then the DWP need to reconsider the possibility of going down the route of being on treatment as a pre requisite to claim.
Theres never been any evidence for any deficiency of any nuerotransmitter, all doctors know this,it was the pharma industry and media that dumbed the science down
Yeah right. So they can end up with mental health problems then get no support when they are out of the army. Many veterans commit suicide or end up living on the street.
If you are depressed because you live with malignant narcissistic /alcoholic partner or parent or you are bullied at work, etc.... antidepressant pills can only conceal your trouble but won't solve your problems,
you must get free from abusive relationships in your life to recover and find your balance.
Vote Indy. 🏴
More often then not, lifestyle changes are the best remedy.
Lifestyle changes are nigh impossible under the weight of depression. In fact, upholding one’s usual lifestyle is impossible, let alone making lifestyle changes.
The symptoms I get taking any antidepressants is similar to serotonin syndrome my jaw judders and I twitch. Sertraline is the worst I had to have a doctor come out to me and give diazepam to counteract it. I have ptsd, anxiety disorder and depressive mood. And not 1 antidepressants helps me and I've tried them all. Currently taking escitalopram and amitriptyline but still don't feel any better so I believe this woman is right.
@Kirsty G33 that is horrible to experience, have the doctors figured out why you react so badly to Sertraline.I have family who take it with no ill side effects & it has transformed their lives for the better.
Omg I twitch as well !! I have had people tell me how great sertaline is but it just makes me twitch I don’t like any of the anti depressants all I get are horrible side effects x
@@evaeden5820 I’ve had side effects on sertaline I just get twitching of the arm leg and head it’s awful
Anti-depressants need to be for the short term, just to give your brain a break not for long term use. They helped me at first for about a year then I felt they were making me worse so I just stopped taking them and just learned that I just have to take the bad with the good, best decision I ever made
Speaking as someone who has had problems with depression and over the years has become less troubled by it, I can say this:
Depression is not only a reaction to life circumstances -- Some people can experience the same life circumstances and not find themselves in a vicious cycle of depression. Depression is a vicious cycle which starts with the belief that sadness and hopelessness are completely unhealthy emotions which are not about anything meaningful in the person's life and serve no adaptive purpose. It is possible to see depression as a normal, valid response to great loss or to feeling stuck: People without problems with depression still feel depressed when something depressing happens in their life. They don't see the depression as something that needs to be eliminated, and the depression lasts as long as it needs to.
People can develop a problem with depression, though, when they start to shame themselves harshly for their natural and valid feelings. They see these feelings as unacceptable and try to come up with ways of eliminating the feelings rather than making sense of them, listening to their meaning, and letting the feelings be. When they find that they are not able to eliminate the feelings, they feel devastated because they believe that healthy people are capable of getting rid of feelings. Now they are depressed about being depressed. This is how the vicious cycle is created: they see the feeling of depression itself as an occasion to feel more depressed. It's a disheartening problem, and it's really helpful to have someone to talk to who has been through it and gotten over it.
There's even one more important layer of a depression problem: People can often already see that they are making things harder for themselves by trying to eliminate their feelings. So now we beat up on ourselves for beating up on ourselves! Now we're stuck in a double-bind: We say to ourselves, "I must stop feeling depressed or I'll never recover!" AND "I must allow myself to feel depressed or I'll never recover!"
Recovering from depression is a gradual journey where we try to go easier on ourselves about our normal and valid feelings of sadness -- and at the same time we try to go easy on ourselves for not being able to perfectly go easy on ourselves. It's okay to be where we're at and to have a depression problem. We're not failures or beyond hope. Everybody has a problem of some kind. As we recover, we start to say more permissive and accepting things to ourselves such as, "I'd like to feel good, but I'll try to be accepting of my feelings whatever they may be," and, "I can go ahead and get back into my life even while I'm feeling depressed."
Those of us with depression problems can get stuck when we put more effort than is needed into feeling a certain way (i.e. happy all the time) and less effort than is needed into tending to the areas of our lives that our important to us. We get stuck because we say things like, "I just need to get over this depression, and then I'll get back into my life." But if we are depressed about what's going on in our lives, then we can expect to feel better *after* we get back into lives, not the other way around.
Recovering from depression is not as simple as taking a pill or reading one book, but it is possible. The more we can appreciate and validate the complexity of our problems, the better are our chances of learning to make peace with our feelings and leading lives of increasing purpose and richness. It's about getting on a path of "better and better" where small, incremental, doable improvements add up to a person saying, "Wow, I used to be troubled, and over the years I've become way less troubled. I'm definitely on the right track."
its living in a ridiculous world basically
Exactly right. It sounds like a teenage stoner cliche but I don’t care, the high functioning and most sane in the world are the real weirdos. Work your whole life, lose everyone you love and eventually yourself to some painful biological demise. Not much to be skipping down the road about is it?
She is so true as I feel that the antidepressants do not work for me.
Best long term solution (personal experience) is to identify and eliminate the people and situations that are dragging you down, not easy. The other side of this is chemical, dumping the junk food (optimal nutrition), perhaps even using an elimination diet and exercising, getting out and socialising, finding a focus in life.
@@davidgifford8112 i eliminated the situations and people who felt like was dragging me down, now theres no one left ! its lonely, but i suffer less, havnt tried any diet solutions and probably never will, thats where i get most of my dopamine
@David Gifford yep did all of that didn’t stop the PTSD though just stopped more distress being added.
There is researched evidence that increasing physical activity can help treat low to moderate depression. So, ask your GP to be referred to exercise instead of antidepressants. Choose movement medicine.
Perhaps it would be more beneficial to do a study on how our food is treated. Our soil is lacking so many minerals now, the crops are sprayed with chemicals, most food has “added vitamins and minerals” which means “fortified” made in a laboratory, not to mention all processed food and what our water goes through to be treated for drinking 🤢
Japan does well, 3 things they will check when someone visits their doctor with signs of mental health issues. Check for UTI, Vitamin B12 deficiency and Vitamin D deficiency these are the 3 main causes.
In Britain now they have lowered the numbers when getting bloods done to show a deficiency. For instance Ferritin used to be 24 as low normal, if your level was 21 the Dr would advise you to take Iron as you were heading towards Anemia. Now they have the low normal set at 15 🤕 a whole lot of very sick people before the Dr’s will recommend help. It’s so very sad 😢
Hospital told me that it was impossible to be vitamin deficient in England, as food is available. And there were NO studies on this. Thanks great A & E!
Life, environment doesn't change cos of anti depressants, simply suppresses you to accept it
It was constant abuse that started mine so that's not a medical in balance, it was a normal human reaction,
Off now, after 27yrs,taken me 13mths
My life has changed so I have changed.
Withdrawing was hell but not as bad as why I went on them in the first place..
Joanna Moncrieff , note 10!
This is the not Bill Gates monney!
The real anglo-saxon lady!
Congratulations!
What i've been saying for years - and I am no expert
but i thought we were meant to trust the science? HOW CAN THE SCIENCE BE WRONG???
Because ALL research grants expect the results that they paid to get from the research. And the truth is discounted completely. That is how the 'science' works now
Fauci gave $70 million in research grants to colleges, last year & all those completely changed their minds, from believing that covid was developed in a lab, to a naturally occurring virus. Proving money is magical ingredient of science!
Wow! First she said her research isn't about what causes depression then goes on to say that the cause is about life circumstances. That may be the case in some but she shouldn't be putting that thought into peoples heads as it is not always the case. There is a huge connection between epilepsy and depression in people that have perfectly happy lives in general. Medications for epilepsy can also cause depression. I'm not saying antidepressants are the answer but this guess that she is making can lead to a person's support network to think that someone has depression because they aren't coping emotionally with hardships which can lead to people to tell someone to harden up. You can't put everyone with depression in the same basket it is more complicated than that!!!
We all want a pill that will make things right. And a rich Aunt who dies and leaves us rich.
So for years, I've been called every name ik the book. I've telling people that you canr did everything w a pill. Here we are.
I personally think that many lifelong mental health problems start in childhood. If we started whole class grief counselling lessons, an hour per week, from 3 until 18, to give people the tools & the words to deal with grief, we could change things radically. Learning to deal with your emotions is far more important than learning about sex & teaching sex education, without how first to deal with ALL your human emotions is just grooming children to experiment with things that they are not physically, mentally or emotionally equipped to deal with. Let's drop the sex classes, at least until teenagers, it is far more important to support their emotional well being first & foremost.
Took anti depressants and I was numb and felt terrible side effects. I wasn't living or feeling. Counselling (please talk to someone) and healthy diet (serotonin rich foods) hormone balance all helps depending on your type of depression and severity. It's a horrible thing to experience and hope all who suffer get the right help even if you need to take the anti depressants for a while and they work as we are all different but get some help💚
You clearly haven’t grasped why anti-depressants aren’t the cure for depression, have you?
Why would ‘seratonin rich foods’ make a difference when these new studies have shown that seratonin producing drugs are in no way a cure for depression?
Anti depressants not changing depressed peoples mood at all, actually makes you feel worse, as the person taking them. People expect you to not become depressed in the first instance. Secoundly they expect your pills to 'fix' you, making you a double failure, by not being fixed. In other peoples eyes & even in your opinion of yourself. A failure.
There is a massive amount of proof that antidepressants work for a lot of people so stop talking rubbish
@@MrCostaC yes. As well as electric shock therapy! Please try some?
I changed my lifestyle. Healthy diet, jogging and exercises 5 times a week.I ended up with prediabetes and heavy panick attacks.WTF.
@ OOBE I exercised, gymming regularly & became a vegetarian, then I developed Anaphylaxis life threatening allergy to multiple fruits & vegetables, oh & made my arthritis much worse & have 2 slipped discs now & wrecked my knees.Yep, what did help medication for my PTSD & Blackout Rage.I firmly believe finding the right medication for you as an individual is key.I have family members with bi polar the difference when they have the right meds to when they didn’t have any meds is shocking.Remember the cost of antidepressants is a big factor here, the “same findings” where found with pain meds, although I have never heard anyone with arthritis say pain medication didn’t help them!!
@@evaeden5820 No,AD do way more harm than good.It doesnt help with depression at all,it has horrible side effects and if you try to stop taking it,well good luck with that.It only reduce anxiety.Considering there are much better options to fight depression (and addiction)which were banned 60 years ago,this is a crime against humanity.
THE NHS DON'T REALISE WHAT LEVEL OF DAMAGE THEY HAVE DONE REGARDING PRESCRIBING MEDICATION FOR MENTAL HEALTH. THESE MEDICATION'S ARE KNOWN TO SHORTEN A PERSON'S LIFE EXPECTANCY. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO YOUR RESEARCH CAREFULLY IN LIFE ON ANY SITUATION YOU DEAL WITH NO MATTER WHAT.
REALLY? Who would have thunk?
Can you please post a link to the research Joanna sites
Depression is a long term disease that has been trivialised to a day of feeling bad, the people who actually suffer with depression are largely ignored now or confined to a statistic, this became more evident less than 12 months ago when the GPs were sent on a box ticking exercise to contact said community, some doctor rang me up and was just asking questions, one suggestion was to move house ! lmao im in no position to move anywhere ! im broke ! next suggestion was to make daily outings, i know this ! i just dont want to go outside ! then as he snooped more into my personal life i was basically accused of being addicted to games lol, i mean anyone with the slightest bit of empathy let alone walking around with the title doctor should see that as escapism ! box ticking nobodys dealing with peoples mental health have no idea !, so while we sit here and point blame at the meds i think theres plenty to be pointed at the institution and the people who work in it
I disagree. Depression is being unhappy for a long time. People don't want to accept they may have to change habits and behaviors to become happy. It is sooo much easier to say I have a broken brain please give me happy pills.
I agree. One of my friends was kept on anti depressants for more than thirty years. When gov changed their policy, they spent a year weaning him off the, but he started having hallucinations, among other side effects of being off these drugs. And they had to put him back on them, because his body could not cope without these drugs. Even on them, he would have dark depressions & attempted suicide many times. Also had electric shock therapy, to make his psychiatrist 'feel better'.
In England. Was sectioned myself in 2004. And it was depressing to learn, from other patients, who had been going through this system for up to 20 years, (some yearly sectioned!), that patients STILL had to work hard to make their psychiatrists feel like they're doing a grand job! Without doing so, you will not be considered for release, as praising your doctor for helping & other staff proves your 'wellness!' Like innocent people (in America), do not get early parole, because you have to show remorse for your crime to qualify. So the guilty play the system & the innocent do their entire sentences.
I got unsectioned, while on the run. Just as well, because I cannot lie (phobic!) & cannot tell lies to stroke ego's the right way. Thought I would be stuck there forever. Dangerous places. One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest. Too many volts, is any electricity killing your brain cells! And psychiatrists only have to get a secound one to back up their call, if patients refuse this 'treatment' & you're outvoted!!!
@Atillia the Hungry Try not to be so glib, survivors of Paedophile sexual abuse, of rape, of emotional & physical abuse, don’t want “Happy Pills” they need release from the daily torment & pain they battle with through no fault of their own.The right medication can make the difference between life & death, misery & despair or stabilising their life’s & clawing back their futures.
It wasn't until our 12 year old daughter attempted suicide with her dad's pain medicines (that were expired since he didn't take them because they didn't work) were we made aware one of the "pain killers" was an antidepressant. So, the doctor didn't believe he was in real pain?!
Some, like amitryptiline and pregabalin are multipurpose and can be used to treat pain as well as depression and anxiety, so perhaps that's why he was on something like that? Hope your daughter's ok and getting help now.
Serotonin also affect pain in lower doses than depression
In the UK, to claim ESA or PIP for depression or anxiety, Ive heard that DWP are considering whether to impose a rule that you must be receiving treatment for said condition. If SSRIs are only 10 percent more effective than placebo, and may come with long term harmful side effects/consequences, then the DWP need to reconsider the possibility of going down the route of being on treatment as a pre requisite to claim.
This shall b retitled "Antidepressants IS NOT The Best Treatment For Depression".
Are not
@joesphbegley3088 Whatever; r u "mocking" my grammar? Regardless; I still stand by w/"IS".
Does this hold true for dopamine as well as seratonin?
Theres never been any evidence for any deficiency of any nuerotransmitter, all doctors know this,it was the pharma industry and media that dumbed the science down
Watching Dover same things flooding in
Finally
virginia wade looking great here!
Plobsievo effects 😉
Placebo effect
@@deborahwillard3495 Or Plebsievo effect perhaps, as an opiate for the masses, who have been conditioned to call them 'happy' pills.
@@dexine4723 mother's little helpers. Old name on American movies!
"May not"? Are you kidding?
look they work for some people and they dont for others end off
That's because it's all in the mind.
@@andyforshaw8489 That’s kind of the point
@@andyforshaw8489 fuck me what a sterling take.
Well, d'uhhh!
Put them in the army for a spell I say
Yes giving people with depression firearms is gonna work out just great....honestly stupidest comment I have read on TH-cam.
Yeah right. So they can end up with mental health problems then get no support when they are out of the army. Many veterans commit suicide or end up living on the street.
Yeah great, more ptsd
@@Little_Sidhe You'd be no good in a war boy!