Music video by The Byrds performing Triad (Audio). Originally released 1967. All rights reserved by Columbia Records, a division of Sony Music Entertainment
"Triad" You want to know how it will be Me and her or you and me You both stand there, your long hair flowing Your eyes alive, your minds are still growing Saying to me what can we do now that we Both love you, I love you too I don't really see why can't we go on as three You are afraid, embarrased too No one has ever said such a thing to you Your mother's ghost stands at your shoulder A face like ice, a little bit colder Saying to you You can not do that it breaks all the rules You learned in school But I don't really see, why can't we go on as three We love each other it's plain to see There's just one answer that comes to me Sister lovers, water brothers and in time maybe others So you see what we can do If we try something new, if you're crazy too I don't really see why can't we go on as three
I think the vocal performance on David's live performance of Triad on CSN&Y's Four Way Street is even better, it's really soulful and emotional with great phrasing.
Ace. McGuinn got funky about it, Hillman did not have enough say so, and CBS was like no way. Too bad, because even without Gene, The Byrds still had that chemistry.
Adoro questa canzone in molte delle sue versione ... Questa dei Byrds è fantastica per la voce di Crosby ,la Rickembacker di McGuinn ed il gran lavoro di Chris Hillmann al basso . Splendida quella di Grace Slick e bella anche quella live dei CPR . Insomma , bella canzone comuque sia cantata e suonata .,non dimenticando la versione dei CSN&Y in Four Ways streets .
It's too bad Triad wasn't included on The Notorious Byrd Brothers album and was unreleased for so many years. what a great song! I love the album even without Triad, but it would have really been the perfect album if Triad was on it (and without the stupid last song, Space Odyssey). This is an avant-garde instrumental by Roger McGuinn that is basically filler.
Joe Giersher, Not sure about that dismissal of the remarkable coda to the album. My God, it's the first ever "space shanty" (not an instrumental, by the way, as McGuinn sings it) and is, arguably, more timeless with its folky drone than "Triad", great though Crosby's paean to three-way-love is. "NBB" has perfect running order as it is and I, for one, can't see where it would sit with the other tracks. Same with "Lady Friend", great song though that is. It really could only ever be a single as it post-dated "YTY" but pre-dated "NBB" sessions.
1. Artificial Energy 2. Goin' Back 3. Natural Harmony 4. Draft Morning 5. Wasn't Born to Follow 6. Get to You 7. Bound to Fall (instrumental) 8. Change Is Now 9. Old John Robertson 10. Triad 11. Tribal Gathering 12. Dolphin's Smile
@@3rdUncleBob brother Bob every one of those Byrd masterpieces are phenomenal and beautiful and very soothing to the senses i truly love the Byrd's whole heartedly wholesome goodness peace to you kiddo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Given the fact that plural marriages and polyamorous relationships are more socially acceptable this song was way ahead of it's time...... definitely should have been on the album
Another space and time / hardly a song can inhale more deeply the spirit of an age David Crosby wrote it and sing here ... He was fired of the band a few weeks later so he is supposed to be the horse on this LP cover !
Guy Webster, photographer for The Notorious Byrd Brothers album, tells on the cover shooting: "The picture was done up in [Topanga] Canyon. The group was going through changes. I got a call to shoot the album cover. They wanted to go out to the country, since their first album cover was shot in a studio. So I found this abandoned barn with four open windows. There was a horse in the field. I put each one of the guys in the windows. And in the last window I put the horse. I was mistakenly accused of denigrating David Crosby. It wasn’t to replace Crosby, who had been fired; it wasn’t to insult anyone. It was just to balance the composition. It was just a space and a horse. And what an image!"
@@jeb909I shouldn't laugh, but I can't stop! 😂 I'm not taking sides though. Crosby himself confessed the reason he was fired from the birds was because he was an @$$hole. He confessed his ego at the time was "larger than the Washington Monument".
@@squidboii It was, but I've never heard or read anything about either of them ever having an attraction for the same sex. Both at the time and today, I think two guys and one girl is probably a lot harder for most people to accept. Men are expected to be territorial and fight for dominance, people often assume if you're not like that it's because you're weak.
He said that? How disappointing. That's not what the song sounds like. And since when do rock stars get thrown out of bands for having sex with more than one person at a time? The outrage over the song only makes sense if you're talking about three people having an ongoing sexual *relationship*.
@@brucetucker4847 what world do you live in where people are collecting boyfriends and girlfriends and yet not being physically intimate with any of them
....the Byrds are the greatest rock band there ever was with Notorious Byrd Brothers being the greatest rock record ever made.....but Grace Slick owns this song about herself and Crosby and Paul Kantner.....Kantner said no.....
Interesting thing to think about..Gene's exit. David's exit. Hillman and Clarke to the Burrito. It must have been really difficult to be in a band with McGuinn...
Any band relationship is difficult. I dont see it as the negative part on jim side of things. The band was largely his and gene s concept any way. Gene left because of fear of flying
I'd say. As a lead singer, without the vocal guardrails of Crosby and Clark, he was not to be tolerated for long and the songwriting skills were nothing if not ho-hum. McGuinn and his guys in the post-Notorious era were a guitar band for performance purposes and a sort of lugubrious electric country band for what seemed like an eternity, in the recording studio.
Please tell me the horse, (pictured) wrote this. When Crosby put bits of his myriads of thought to verse, in conjunction with that voice, the best ever in my opinion, it came to define what it meant to suffer the truest outer limits of rock and roll excess and not die as a result.
@@chriswakefield9538 I bet you're a bigoted homophobe & transphobe. Did you even pay attention to the message of the song, it's about a consensual polyamorous relationship.
I think they fired David Crosby out of envy. He's the most talented "Byrd". Beautiful song! I only knew the live version from "4 Way Street" (C, S, N & Y).
Gene Clark was by far the most valuable and indispensible member of the band. Crosby the greatest high harmony singer in or outside the band. Together they could and should have assumed control and direction of The Byrds future. Clark and Crosby were worlds apart in every way. The former underrated his massive talent, the latter, as is evidenced by this thoroughly atrocious track, greatly overvalued his. A multitude of other reasons for The Byrds demise are well documented.
A masterpiece, yes...also slightly sinister, I've always thought. I wonder whether Crosby intended it to have that edge. Certainly it's an incitement to a kind of sexual revolution, the consequences of which are hardly an unmixed good.
If a guy had the nerve to ask his girlfriend about a 3 way "arrangement", just curious, when would he get out of the hospital, and be fully recovered from his injuries? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Never was too much of a fan of this song. It sounds good musically...but the lyrics and vocal delivery...ehh. Not that they are not good(as far as well written and well sung)....but the feel/message of the song sounds like it's coming from a creep. And I've always had that impression of Crosby...from interviews he's done and memoirs of former bandmates about him...creepy guy. But that said...he's a great singer.
He's a changed man from how he was during the years he was addicted to heavy drugs. Not creepy at all. In fact he is one of the nicest people I know. Same for his wife, Jan.
@@markplummer8493 Ok...point well taken. True this song was written by a 20 something back in the mid/late 60's....and yes we do grow up(some of us). And that's cool you have got to hang out with him and his wife...and get to know them. I can also say that I'm not the same guy as I was in my 20's...I'm a better person and not the big dick/asshole I was back then too. So to just address the song and the context it was made...it sounds like it was written by a 20 something/ creepy misogynist guy....justifying his desire to have 2 girls at the same time(have his cake and eat it too). Obviously the one girl he is addressing in the song does NOT want a "Triad"...and he is trying to talk her into it. I've had friends' who I would call creeps back in our 20's....that tried to do the same thing. I was always disgusted with them....hence my using the word "creep" haha! ; )
I think Crosby is the definition of a 60’s counterculture dude... Might be off putting to some, but he wasn’t afraid to speak his mind and I think he had influence in the bands he was in... just to test his musical power, take away his voice and songs from the byrds and CSN and they are just not the same. I think he cringes when he sees how he took it a bit too far... I’m wondering how most folks would handled that much fame and stimulation? I think a lot of people might crack too. He got a little too big for his britches, but I for one can relate and I still like the guy. To me, he’s the real hippie in the bands he was in... the other guys were more conservative and slowly became activists over time... Those hippy dudes are the first to be kicked out of the commune:) doesn’t mean they are not leaders and important... probably just irritating after a while. I dig him and can’t believe how good his singing is. Out of all of his contemporaries, he managed to abuse his body more, yet still retain his voice!
@@Philmod68 I've the same feeling about it. The reason why I find the Grace Slick's version with JA less disturbing. It's not the same coming from a woman than a man who, I agree, may only try to not have to choose between 2 girls he wants to get. A woman might have the same cynical intention but much less likely in the structured machist society we live in.
It's such an artistic embarrassment of a bleating offering to sexual "daring" that the only thing that could've redeemed it would've been for Crosby to hold on to the sheet music for a decade, then hand it off to The Sex Pistols, accelerate the tempo to a cool 100 mph and let Johnny Rotten snarl and growl his way through this "hold your nose" nonsense until it sounded like a sure fire hit, circa '77. Two things: Syd did the same with "My Way" and with great success and Crosby was perhaps, in his essence, a punk!
RIP Mr. Crosby 💐 Thank you for all the great music you gave us.
RIP David. You were loved by so many. Thank you.
Stunning vocal from Crosby there.
This track and "Everybody's Been Burned" are my all~time favourite David Crosby Lead Vocal performances!
At times like low notes on a flute...
Apparently his ears were so prominent that they used to stick them back with chewing gum. . . or was that Bing?
@@MisAnnThorpe Not sure, maybe it was Dumbo!
Was recorded in late '67, not released until much later since was an outtake. The most famous version is Grace Slick's JA one in '68.
"Triad"
You want to know how it will be
Me and her or you and me
You both stand there, your long hair flowing
Your eyes alive, your minds are still growing
Saying to me what can we do now that we
Both love you, I love you too
I don't really see why can't we go on as three
You are afraid, embarrased too
No one has ever said such a thing to you
Your mother's ghost stands at your shoulder
A face like ice, a little bit colder
Saying to you
You can not do that it breaks all the rules
You learned in school
But I don't really see, why can't we go on as three
We love each other it's plain to see
There's just one answer that comes to me
Sister lovers, water brothers and in time maybe others
So you see what we can do
If we try something new, if you're crazy too
I don't really see why can't we go on as three
This should've been on Notorious Byrd Brothers.
It is now!
The most dope drum beat put to a most superb vocal performance. The whole track throbs with seduction.
I like the way you worded that.
Something about those vocals at the start, idk what it is, just love them. Perfect intro into the song
I like this version. A little snappier.
You really can't get much better than this!
I think the vocal performance on David's live performance of Triad on CSN&Y's Four Way Street is even better, it's really soulful and emotional with great phrasing.
I love this song, those lovely guitars and Crosby's great singing.
you feel the Buffalo Springfield influence in this track with the harmonics
Rubbish
Mmm, not quite. I do hear Roger McGuinn's 12 string though.
Beautiful song and vocals ❤️🔥👌🏻
R.I.P. David Crosby
Ace. McGuinn got funky about it, Hillman did not have enough say so, and CBS was like no way. Too bad, because even without Gene, The Byrds still had that chemistry.
The passed over song that sent Crosby to CSN&N
Also for getting on stage with buffalo Springfield at Monterey pop
Crosby was a pain in the ass, it happened over time first getting Gene to jump and then trying to take over leadership of group
The Byrds didn't deserve him
When I heard David Crosby passed first song I thought of was this 😢
After I heard the sad news I immediately thought of "Teach your children".
Thank You, David.
Merci David Crosby, respect à toi, heureux de t'avoir vu sur scène à l' OLYMPIA quand j'avais 30 ans.
Adoro questa canzone in molte delle sue versione ... Questa dei Byrds è fantastica per la voce di Crosby ,la Rickembacker di McGuinn ed il gran lavoro di Chris Hillmann al basso . Splendida quella di Grace Slick e bella anche quella live dei CPR . Insomma , bella canzone comuque sia cantata e suonata .,non dimenticando la versione dei CSN&Y in Four Ways streets .
Preferisco questa versione dai Byrds.
It's too bad Triad wasn't included on The Notorious Byrd Brothers album and was unreleased for so many years. what a great song! I love the album even without Triad, but it would have really been the perfect album if Triad was on it (and without the stupid last song, Space Odyssey). This is an avant-garde instrumental by Roger McGuinn that is basically filler.
Joe Giersher, Not sure about that dismissal of the remarkable coda to the album. My God, it's the first ever "space shanty" (not an instrumental, by the way, as McGuinn sings it) and is, arguably, more timeless with its folky drone than "Triad", great though Crosby's paean to three-way-love is. "NBB" has perfect running order as it is and I, for one, can't see where it would sit with the other tracks. Same with "Lady Friend", great song though that is. It really could only ever be a single as it post-dated "YTY" but pre-dated "NBB" sessions.
1. Artificial Energy
2. Goin' Back
3. Natural Harmony
4. Draft Morning
5. Wasn't Born to Follow
6. Get to You
7. Bound to Fall (instrumental)
8. Change Is Now
9. Old John Robertson
10. Triad
11. Tribal Gathering
12. Dolphin's Smile
I totally agree with you brother Joe it sounds so beautiful and Lovely😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
@@3rdUncleBob brother Bob every one of those Byrd masterpieces are phenomenal and beautiful and very soothing to the senses i truly love the Byrd's whole heartedly wholesome goodness peace to you kiddo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Triad should certainly have been on the album,but Space Odyssey is one of the great album closers.
Sem condições pra esse som cara. ❤️
Beautiful song, happy there are 2 excellent versions🙏
1000th like
Given the fact that plural marriages and polyamorous relationships are more socially acceptable this song was way ahead of it's time...... definitely should have been on the album
You are so right!
Yes, it was a song that definitely defines the ethical non-monogamous community!!!
both versions are so fine
Water brothers! Stranger in a Strange Land!
I miss David😭😭😭
Another space and time / hardly a song can inhale more deeply the spirit of an age
David Crosby wrote it and sing here ...
He was fired of the band a few weeks later so he is supposed to be the horse on this LP cover !
Considering how they felt about him at the time, I'm surprised that they didn't put the other end of that horse in the window.
Guy Webster, photographer for The Notorious Byrd Brothers album, tells on the cover shooting:
"The picture was done up in [Topanga] Canyon. The group was going through changes. I got a call to shoot the album cover. They wanted to go out to the country, since their first album cover was shot in a studio. So I found this abandoned barn with four open windows. There was a horse in the field. I put each one of the guys in the windows. And in the last window I put the horse. I was mistakenly accused of denigrating David Crosby. It wasn’t to replace Crosby, who had been fired; it wasn’t to insult anyone. It was just to balance the composition. It was just a space and a horse. And what an image!"
@@jeb909I shouldn't laugh, but I can't stop! 😂 I'm not taking sides though. Crosby himself confessed the reason he was fired from the birds was because he was an @$$hole. He confessed his ego at the time was "larger than the Washington Monument".
Great tune, but I feel he better captured the true melancholia of that Ménage à trois moment in his rendition on *_4-Way Street_*
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A truly sublime performance of the song is indeed just Crosby and his guitar on 4 Way Street.
Stranger in a Strange Land.
RIP David Crosby
On the Jefferson Airplane Crown of Creation LP...
thomas edwards ...Grace Slick’s subtley powerful vocal makes Jefferson Airplane’s version so hauntingly beautiful.
@9twoblacklabs904 : I agree with your asessment 100%.
Rip DC
Funkier instrumental but Grace Slick delivers a more emotional vocal performance of this tune
When Grace sings this it`s about two guys and a girl. When David sings it it is about one guy and two girls. Am I right ?
@@franzllattner who can really say for sure, this was the time of "free love"
@@squidboii It was, but I've never heard or read anything about either of them ever having an attraction for the same sex.
Both at the time and today, I think two guys and one girl is probably a lot harder for most people to accept. Men are expected to be territorial and fight for dominance, people often assume if you're not like that it's because you're weak.
Best version of David Crosby's best song
I would argue that his best song is cowboy movie, but it's an amazing song indeed
Grace does a pretty good version with Jefferson Airplane.
*_One_* of his best - I agree - but I prefer his live *_4-Way Street_* rendition: th-cam.com/video/-lp5Ope65mQ/w-d-xo.html
honestly my first time hearing this today and it is incredible, best thing i ever heard David sing.
Rip David
About the only thing that Simon and I did NOT have in common was our taste in music but I hope that he is speaking to him right now. Dad
The most captivating part is at 1:01 - I LOVE YOU TOO -
“I wrote this song about a ménage a trois” - David Crosby
He said that? How disappointing. That's not what the song sounds like. And since when do rock stars get thrown out of bands for having sex with more than one person at a time? The outrage over the song only makes sense if you're talking about three people having an ongoing sexual *relationship*.
@@bronwynbeistle8317 ''That's not what the song sounds like'' - Really? ...''Why can't we go on as three'' 2:09
@@furion.. "Go on..." not "fool around". It's about loving two different people, not screwing two different people.
Why are people even in denial about this lol
@@brucetucker4847 what world do you live in where people are collecting boyfriends and girlfriends and yet not being physically intimate with any of them
David Crosby denies this song was the reason for his being fired from the Byrds.
Rejected by the other Byrds, Crosby gave this gorgeous song to Jefferson Airplane. McGuinn and Hillman's loss.
....the Byrds are the greatest rock band there ever was with Notorious Byrd Brothers being the greatest rock record ever made.....but Grace Slick owns this song about herself and Crosby and Paul Kantner.....Kantner said no.....
Actress Sally Kellerman did a cover of this song.
goodbye mr. crosby :/
Interesting thing to think about..Gene's exit. David's exit. Hillman and Clarke to the Burrito. It must have been really difficult to be in a band with McGuinn...
Not to mention Gram Parsons short lived arrival and departure from the group
Any band relationship is difficult. I dont see it as the negative part on jim side of things. The band was largely his and gene s concept any way. Gene left because of fear of flying
I'd say. As a lead singer, without the vocal guardrails of Crosby and Clark, he was not to be tolerated for long and the songwriting skills were nothing if not ho-hum. McGuinn and his guys in the post-Notorious era were a guitar band for performance purposes and a sort of lugubrious electric country band for what seemed like an eternity, in the recording studio.
It was also really difficult to be in a band with Crosby. Just ask Stephen or Neil.
Also recorded by Grace Slick J A. R I P David.
But that CSNY 4 way street version , though !
Please tell me the horse, (pictured) wrote this. When Crosby put bits of his myriads of thought to verse, in conjunction with that voice, the best ever in my opinion, it came to define what it meant to suffer the truest outer limits of rock and roll excess and not die as a result.
What?
They all deny the horse was supposed to represent Crosby.
Support Polyamory. People deserve to love who they love.
I bet you're into all sorts of degeneracy.
@@chriswakefield9538 I bet you're a bigoted homophobe & transphobe. Did you even pay attention to the message of the song, it's about a consensual polyamorous relationship.
@@chriswakefield9538 he's right. Crosby even said it himself in RS.
@@chriswakefield9538 Wouldn't you like to know.
I think they fired David Crosby out of envy. He's the most talented "Byrd". Beautiful song! I only knew the live version from "4 Way Street" (C, S, N & Y).
I don't know about that, but at the same time, they fired Gram. Can't really blame them for that one, but I guess one can only speculate.
lol Crosby is the best singer but definirely not the most talented
in The Byrds, at the time? Yep. Gene Clark wins overall best songwriter though
Gene Clark was by far the most valuable and indispensible member of the band. Crosby the greatest high harmony singer in or outside the band. Together they could and should have assumed control and direction of The Byrds future. Clark and Crosby were worlds apart in every way. The former underrated his massive talent, the latter, as is evidenced by this thoroughly atrocious track, greatly overvalued his. A multitude of other reasons for The Byrds demise are well documented.
@@rogermurray8553 Atrocious? Whatever you think of the subject matter of the song, Crosby sings like an angel!
A masterpiece, yes...also slightly sinister, I've always thought. I wonder whether Crosby intended it to have that edge. Certainly it's an incitement to a kind of sexual revolution, the consequences of which are hardly an unmixed good.
Grace Slick's version is by far more beautiful...
If a guy had the nerve to ask his girlfriend about a 3 way "arrangement", just curious, when would he get out of the hospital, and be fully recovered from his injuries? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nah. People are more open minded now. I've been in a "triad" all comes with boundaries and respect.
@@betterfasterstronger0 Jerry talked George Costanza out of it lol!
Not if your a Rock Star
@@MisterMikeTexas *_Nuh UH!_*
@@betterfasterstronger0 . . . and ends in acrimony all round.
Never was too much of a fan of this song. It sounds good musically...but the lyrics and vocal delivery...ehh. Not that they are not good(as far as well written and well sung)....but the feel/message of the song sounds like it's coming from a creep. And I've always had that impression of Crosby...from interviews he's done and memoirs of former bandmates about him...creepy guy. But that said...he's a great singer.
He's a changed man from how he was during the years he was addicted to heavy drugs. Not creepy at all. In fact he is one of the nicest people I know. Same for his wife, Jan.
@@markplummer8493 Ok...point well taken. True this song was written by a 20 something back in the mid/late 60's....and yes we do grow up(some of us). And that's cool you have got to hang out with him and his wife...and get to know them. I can also say that I'm not the same guy as I was in my 20's...I'm a better person and not the big dick/asshole I was back then too. So to just address the song and the context it was made...it sounds like it was written by a 20 something/ creepy misogynist guy....justifying his desire to have 2 girls at the same time(have his cake and eat it too). Obviously the one girl he is addressing in the song does NOT want a "Triad"...and he is trying to talk her into it. I've had friends' who I would call creeps back in our 20's....that tried to do the same thing. I was always disgusted with them....hence my using the word "creep" haha! ; )
I think Crosby is the definition of a 60’s counterculture dude... Might be off putting to some, but he wasn’t afraid to speak his mind and I think he had influence in the bands he was in... just to test his musical power, take away his voice and songs from the byrds and CSN and they are just not the same. I think he cringes when he sees how he took it a bit too far... I’m wondering how most folks would handled that much fame and stimulation? I think a lot of people might crack too. He got a little too big for his britches, but I for one can relate and I still like the guy. To me, he’s the real hippie in the bands he was in... the other guys were more conservative and slowly became activists over time... Those hippy dudes are the first to be kicked out of the commune:) doesn’t mean they are not leaders and important... probably just irritating after a while. I dig him and can’t believe how good his singing is. Out of all of his contemporaries, he managed to abuse his body more, yet still retain his voice!
@@Philmod68 I've the same feeling about it. The reason why I find the Grace Slick's version with JA less disturbing. It's not the same coming from a woman than a man who, I agree, may only try to not have to choose between 2 girls he wants to get. A woman might have the same cynical intention but much less likely in the structured machist society we live in.
That’s a pretty stupid thing to say
It's such an artistic embarrassment of a bleating offering to sexual "daring" that the only thing that could've redeemed it would've been for Crosby to hold on to the sheet music for a decade, then hand it off to The Sex Pistols, accelerate the tempo to a cool 100 mph and let Johnny Rotten snarl and growl his way through this "hold your nose" nonsense until it sounded like a sure fire hit, circa '77. Two things: Syd did the same with "My Way" and with great success and Crosby was perhaps, in his essence, a punk!
It has a Madchester vibe about it 🙂