@@kevinoconnor4245 Bless Mike Clarke's Heart. He caught some much shit for no reason. Some drummer magazine voted him most improved drummer in 1966. RIP and thanks
This song just blew me away when I first heard this album. Michael Carke's 16th notes on the hi-hat are really ahead of it's time. It's like a song that would've come out of the Paisley Underground scene in the early '80's.
One of the most creative groups in the history of popular music, and one of my all-time favorite groups ...... together they made magic ....beautiful magic ..
A year and a half following arguably the greatest original character in the Annals of the American Experiment, this song still sounds as amazing as it did when I first heard it at 15 in 1997 and possibly even better than it did on original release in 1966. Rest in eternal cosmic mystery, David...
Oh, my dear friend, I'm sorry but this song was cut in 1966. Nothing to do with the 1970s at all or whatsoever--well, aside from David possibly listening to this sometime in 1978 while freebasing some serious cocaine. Other than that, pure mid-60s raga rock.
Everyone bags on Clarke. Sure. He was very pretty when they started. I get it. I am annoyed with John Mayer for similar reasons. We now all know that the wrecking crew played Tambourine man, but the rest of the first record was Mike. All the live footage of him.. he plays deeply.. sad and thoughtful.. his snare to tom feel was perfect. A real west coast Sunset Blvd. drummer... real gravitas. I maintain Mike was the PERFECT drummer for the early Byrds and the Folk-Rock scene transcending into rock-rock.
Very well said. Michael got better with each record. Love The Byrds most of my life and discussed them with others for just as long. Never have I heard anyone say that the records were brilliant except for the drumming. He was a perfect fit for the group and several subsequent bands of note. Had a really keen sense of caustic appraisal for some fellow Byrds who could draw his ire, too. Helluva good dude who came to a tragic end. RIP.
@@Moxnix46 Mike did. The session notes for all Byrds' sessions through The Notorious Byrds Brothers are publicly available, and were published with the Never Before release in 1987. Images of those notes are available online,and include info on personnel who played on all tracks, including album tracks, singles, and even outtakes.
Michael Clarke's 16th notes on the hi-hat add to the song, maybe even "make" the song. Drummers realize how this changes the whole landscape of the sound on this cut. It has a kind of weird effect actually....
I came here to make a similar comment. Clarke wasn’t a brilliant technician or flawless timekeeper, but his lyrical, almost melodic drumming style was a great fit for the early Byrds. And his 16th-note hi-hat beat in this tune was a genuine innovation, as his 8th-note bass drumming was in other Byrds tunes.
Good observation. Clarke played the *song,* like Ringo and Charlie and many others of that era. Chops are great, but in pop music, the song comes first. Too many drummers play the drums, not the song.
Crosby on lead vocal. Truly one the greatest voices in rock ever. And if he wrote it, it's one of his best lyrical/melodic achievements. Funny when he joined the supergroup, his overall talent and importance went "super diminished" as well.
Both this and Notorious. Technological innovations pointed to a whole new era of music 15 years on, largely coming out of Britain. Lots of in-fighting with The Byrds but their minds and musical creativity were directed to the future. And a shame the whole thing fizzled out on a too long trail of tepid country music.
Remembering David Crosby born on August 14, 1941. He was an American singer, songwriter, and guitarist. He first found fame as a member of the Byrds, with whom he helped pioneer the genres of folk rock and psychedelia in the mid-1960s, and later as part of the supergroup Crosby, Stills & Nash, who helped popularize the California sound of the 1970s. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Crosby
I get '90s alt rock vibes from this song, like Gin Blossoms or something. You can hear The Byrds everywhere, all the way to something as mainstream as The Rembrandt's theme for "Friends." This album in particular flies under the radar. Reading about it before listening, I expected another Majesty's Request -- a failed experiment in psychedelia, trying to jell with the Zeitgeist of the times -- but where the Stones' album was largely derivative and unoriginal, this album is innovative and authentic. The Byrds aren't exactly unheralded, but for a band whose influence on the course of popular music was probably only a couple notches below The Beatles, they deserve more attention, even than they've gotten. Their relevance does not end with their second album, nor is it limited to folk rock.
@@davidwatton Today, McGuinn is a right-wing evangelical nutjob. Back in the mid-1960s, he was wrong about the JFK murder. The lyrics he wrote in "He was a Friend of Mine" were flatly wrong, and they helped to promote (albeit inadvertently) the Warren Commission whitewash. Crosby, on the other hand, was spot-on when he told his audience at the Monterrey Pop Festival that JFK was killed by multiple gunmen, shooting from multiple directions. McGuinn insisted on firing Crosby from the Byrds because Crosby liked to cut through the propaganda (which still saturates US society today). McGuinn thought that Crosby spoke too much truth to their audiences, such as when he spoke the truth about the JFK assassination. McGuinn was clearly in the wrong. All I'm saying is that Croz was an honest, thoughtful person, who courageously stuck his neck out and tried to use his platform as an artist to speak truth to power. McGuinn, on the other hand, was only concerned about making money and promoting himself.
My animosity toward Crosby wants me to disagree, but you make a good argument. Definitely stands the test of time well. "Eight Miles High" is pretty fukn' excellent, though. And "I See You" and "Why?". Not saying you're wrong.
Great contribution by David here but "Eight Miles High" is arguably at the creative pinnacle of rock music, not only for that decade of musical riches but for all-time, so influential has it been. Gene Clark, who wrote rings around the other three composers, wrote it, along with Brian Jones, and Gene was magnanimous enough to give Crosby a "writing credit" even though he contributed but one line to the song. Generosity personified given Crosby's continual verbal sniping at the one guy who could've carried the whole group, creatively speaking, all by himself.
A great classic; great instrumentation, great singing, great melody, fabulous mystical words, with music that takes you there. What more could one ask for in a song?
Can't get enough of old Byrds.
Crosby's vocal and McGuinn's sitar-like Rickenbacker. Sweet. One of the Byrds' best songs.
Let's hear it for the bassist and drummer ,too...
@@kevinoconnor4245 Bless Mike Clarke's Heart. He caught some much shit for no reason. Some drummer magazine voted him most improved drummer in 1966. RIP and thanks
Just listen to that gorgeous searing guitar tone of McGuinn's. Drink in the sweetness of Crosby's voice. McGuinn and Crosby in perfect combination.
David Crosby's vocal is glorious, as well as McGuinn's guitar playing. Great song from an equally fine album.
Fuck the "Fuck David Crosby" crowd.
RIP to the One and Only. What a wonderful magical voice.
I don't know
I'm not cryin'
Laughin' mostly
As you can see
The melody he constructed for the "Laughing mostly, as you can see..." is wild. Only DC could have come up with that over the chord changes at hand.
I don’t know... what it is...about this song...It’s just as cool as can be
This song just blew me away when I first heard this album. Michael Carke's 16th notes on the hi-hat are really ahead of it's time. It's like a song that would've come out of the Paisley Underground scene in the early '80's.
Per Michael Clarke's 16th notes on the high-hat almost pre-sages a hip-hop beat...
I met the Byrds at our local Sears store lol way back when 😂
RIP David Crosby. Underrated Byrds album track of his.
One of the most creative groups in the history of popular music, and one of my all-time favorite groups ...... together they made magic ....beautiful magic ..
my absolute favorite from this line-up. love the suppressed chuckle too.
I like that you noticed the "suppressed chuckle". Such a great vocal.
David Crosby. An incredible musician and vocalist. RIP.
A year and a half following arguably the greatest original character in the Annals of the American Experiment, this song still sounds as amazing as it did when I first heard it at 15 in 1997 and possibly even better than it did on original release in 1966. Rest in eternal cosmic mystery, David...
Rest in peace David Crosby ❤
The first time I heard this song, I was instantly blown away. The very definition of a timeless classic.
One of my favorite song EVER!!!
Now these have to be the most radical band of the 1970's.
Oh, my dear friend, I'm sorry but this song was cut in 1966. Nothing to do with the 1970s at all or whatsoever--well, aside from David possibly listening to this sometime in 1978 while freebasing some serious cocaine. Other than that, pure mid-60s raga rock.
RIP David.. Love ya man.. Legend.
R.I.P. David Crosby
Fantastic song😊
LOVE THIS ALBUM NOW AS MUCH AS I DID WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT IN THE MID 60S
Everyone bags on Clarke. Sure. He was very pretty when they started. I get it. I am annoyed with John Mayer for similar reasons. We now all know that the wrecking crew played Tambourine man, but the rest of the first record was Mike. All the live footage of him.. he plays deeply.. sad and thoughtful.. his snare to tom feel was perfect. A real west coast Sunset Blvd. drummer... real gravitas. I maintain Mike was the PERFECT drummer for the early Byrds and the Folk-Rock scene transcending into rock-rock.
Just in case! McGuinn played 12 string on TM and he’s intro and arrangement
Very well said. Michael got better with each record. Love The Byrds most of my life and discussed them with others for just as long. Never have I heard anyone say that the records were brilliant except for the drumming. He was a perfect fit for the group and several subsequent bands of note. Had a really keen sense of caustic appraisal for some fellow Byrds who could draw his ire, too. Helluva good dude who came to a tragic end. RIP.
Absolutely correct. He was an essential member of the band..
Great discussion re Mike C. Has anyone finally determined who played drums on Eight Miles?
@@Moxnix46 Mike did. The session notes for all Byrds' sessions through The Notorious Byrds Brothers are publicly available, and were published with the Never Before release in 1987. Images of those notes are available online,and include info on personnel who played on all tracks, including album tracks, singles, and even outtakes.
Guitar tapestry, sweet and flowing
Michael Clarke's 16th notes on the hi-hat add to the song, maybe even "make" the song. Drummers realize how this changes the whole landscape of the sound on this cut. It has a kind of weird effect actually....
I came here to make a similar comment. Clarke wasn’t a brilliant technician or flawless timekeeper, but his lyrical, almost melodic drumming style was a great fit for the early Byrds. And his 16th-note hi-hat beat in this tune was a genuine innovation, as his 8th-note bass drumming was in other Byrds tunes.
Agree totally. Nonsense that he couldn't play as you hear pedalled around constantly by some.
@@kevinknox7282 some, including Crosby. lol
Clarke was clever that way, wasn't he? Check out Firefalls first couple of albums. Michael was a subtle showman I always felt.
Good observation. Clarke played the *song,* like Ringo and Charlie and many others of that era. Chops are great, but in pop music, the song comes first. Too many drummers play the drums, not the song.
Fantastic music! So much space inside this groove.
Descanse em paz, David. Grato por tua música.
McGuinn can bend those strings !!!
The best band
Yeah they are that's why I love love Listening To them peace to you brother Matt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Nice profile pic @mattclarke8772
As sweetly psychedelic as it gets.
I had this album when it was first released !!!
Rest in peace, David! 😓
Smo-o-o-o-o-th. Restful and so expert. the Radman
Patterson & Thompson will pay !!!!
I REALLY LIKE THIS ALBUM LOVE THE SOUND OF THE RICKENBACKER ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF MY FAVORITE BANDS THE BYRDS
David Crosby, RIP.
Crosby on lead vocal. Truly one the greatest voices in rock ever. And if he wrote it, it's one of his best lyrical/melodic achievements. Funny when he joined the supergroup, his overall talent and importance went "super diminished" as well.
He wrote it.
It was written by Crosby and I love this track. Alas I have a very low opinion of the man himself, he's not a good person.
roger murray- diminished the moment cass elliott convinced them to relegate the greatest soprano in rock to middle tenor under sqwackin willy nash
Listening to the albums in release order....this stood out as the first another level song. By miles...🌼👁️
Absolutely right!
Both this and Notorious. Technological innovations pointed to a whole new era of music 15 years on, largely coming out of Britain. Lots of in-fighting with The Byrds but their minds and musical creativity were directed to the future. And a shame the whole thing fizzled out on a too long trail of tepid country music.
Remembering David Crosby born on August 14, 1941. He was an American singer, songwriter, and guitarist. He first found fame as a member of the Byrds, with whom he helped pioneer the genres of folk rock and psychedelia in the mid-1960s, and later as part of the supergroup Crosby, Stills & Nash, who helped popularize the California sound of the 1970s. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Crosby
"When we seek to know it, we can not see it. When we are silent it speaks."
~ Cheng-Tao Ke ~
Happy, Merry Christmas
& Happy New Year!!
Me neither...I don't know.
Beautiful song ❤️🔥👌🏻🙂😁
R.I.P. David
I get '90s alt rock vibes from this song, like Gin Blossoms or something. You can hear The Byrds everywhere, all the way to something as mainstream as The Rembrandt's theme for "Friends." This album in particular flies under the radar. Reading about it before listening, I expected another Majesty's Request -- a failed experiment in psychedelia, trying to jell with the Zeitgeist of the times -- but where the Stones' album was largely derivative and unoriginal, this album is innovative and authentic. The Byrds aren't exactly unheralded, but for a band whose influence on the course of popular music was probably only a couple notches below The Beatles, they deserve more attention, even than they've gotten. Their relevance does not end with their second album, nor is it limited to folk rock.
fabularse
Fantastic record.
Mcguinn is just out there on this song 😊
Crosby feckin tune n half
Luv
it sounds like it's chugging backwards
it's soo sad this song gets the attention it deserves
Rest in Peace, Croz. McGuinn could never hold a candle to you. And you were right about the JFK assassination. McGuinn was wrong.
Don't see much point in comparing McGuinn and Crosby in this way when both are giants. It's like comparing Lennon and McCartney.
@@davidwatton Today, McGuinn is a right-wing evangelical nutjob. Back in the mid-1960s, he was wrong about the JFK murder. The lyrics he wrote in "He was a Friend of Mine" were flatly wrong, and they helped to promote (albeit inadvertently) the Warren Commission whitewash. Crosby, on the other hand, was spot-on when he told his audience at the Monterrey Pop Festival that JFK was killed by multiple gunmen, shooting from multiple directions.
McGuinn insisted on firing Crosby from the Byrds because Crosby liked to cut through the propaganda (which still saturates US society today). McGuinn thought that Crosby spoke too much truth to their audiences, such as when he spoke the truth about the JFK assassination. McGuinn was clearly in the wrong.
All I'm saying is that Croz was an honest, thoughtful person, who courageously stuck his neck out and tried to use his platform as an artist to speak truth to power. McGuinn, on the other hand, was only concerned about making money and promoting himself.
ECHO IN THE CANION
it's soo sas this song gets the attention it deserves
reread your sentence
Ian Schoenwetter just stop. Please.
This song is the best on the album! If you disagree let me know!!
My animosity toward Crosby wants me to disagree, but you make a good argument. Definitely stands the test of time well. "Eight Miles High" is pretty fukn' excellent, though. And "I See You" and "Why?". Not saying you're wrong.
I like 5 D; McGuinn said it was about physics.
One of the best on this greatest of their albums, and one of the best by the Byrds.
His changes are timeless, beyond category.
Great contribution by David here but "Eight Miles High" is arguably at the creative pinnacle of rock music, not only for that decade of musical riches but for all-time, so influential has it been. Gene Clark, who wrote rings around the other three composers, wrote it, along with Brian Jones, and Gene was magnanimous enough to give Crosby a "writing credit" even though he contributed but one line to the song. Generosity personified given Crosby's continual verbal sniping at the one guy who could've carried the whole group, creatively speaking, all by himself.
RIP Crosby.
?!?!
This is the song that persuaded me to do drugs in high school.
Allison hide forever you hurt inside guilt because i was true and you lie
If you love this one you should enjoy that other one:
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Thank you David Crosby 1941-2023. Keep letting your Freak-Flag fly.
dedicated to Allison from Jimmy 📞
This song? Really
Does anyone else think that Crosby sounds like his first language was Dutch? I don’t wanna be the only person who thinks that lmao
Underwhelmed. Only the guitar is inreresting.
auramac considering the era this was released it was wildly innovative, kinda sad that you can’t see that
A great classic; great instrumentation, great singing, great melody, fabulous mystical words, with music that takes you there. What more could one ask for in a song?
Really? Listen to that vocal? Give it another go. Magical.
Try writing something similar but better.
@@eameece Well summed up.
An average album cut is the best I could say about this song. It's ok. But it's not a particularly great tune.
Fantastic! :-D
it's soo sad this song gets the attention it deserves
Ian Schoenwetter now featured on Echo in Canyon documentary it will hopefully get its due