That look at 1:20 when he realizes fully that Vogelbaum is the one who turned an innocent boy into a monster. Also realizing that in many of the ways that matter he and Homelander are a LOT alike.
I think Butcher was disappointed to hear what Voglebaum had to say, like he was probably hoping to hear that Homelander was a devil child who tortured animals for fun, but hearing he was actually a sweet young boy who liked Davey Crockett books and wanted to see the woods was unsatisfying.
Like the second he heard all of it, he came to understand that Homelander wasn't always the monster he came to know and that Voglebaum is to blame here
Yeah, and in fact he probably started empaphising a bit with Homelander (of course, he would never ever RESPECT him, just feel for his past) for having a terrible father figure, and I think this also explains how easy it was for Butcher to threaten Voglebaum so harshly. he saw the person he hates the most in the doc (his own father).
When Vogelbaum tells Butcher how Homelander was sweet and kind and how he needed him to be something he didnt want to be, you can see in Butchers face how it reminded him of his father and how he grew up 😢
@@doombada1mit's clear as day. As someone who grew up with an abusive father who had a similar mindset in how he wanted to raise me, Butcher's subtle shift in his eyes and facial expression and the way he glanced away said it all. In that moment, he realised the truth and that Voglebaum was the truly evil one, and Homelander was just a result of abuse like him. It doesn't excuse anything Homelander has done, or redeem him at all in Butchers eyes, but in that moment, Butcher feels empathy for him and realises they're both a lot more similar than he thought. Turn the video quality up and rewatch it if you missed it.
I think about this about most people in real life. Just think about the latest data that says the greatest indicator of wealth and/or success is where you were born and raised, no matter your skills, genetics, or race. That's terrifying.
Only on rewatching I realised how masterfully this episode compares butchers childhood to homelanders. A sweet boy who wanted childish things, and a father figure who abused him to mold him into a “strong man”. For themselves. Extremely touching.
Genuinely he couldn't get any more intimidating then he is in this scene. When he emotionlessly locks eyes with Homelander's creator you don't see the face of a broken man, but the cold piercing gaze of a blood-lusted murderer with full intent to takes someones life that day
The saddest part of this story is the implication that if John had been raised the way that, say, Clark Kent was raised, he might actually have become what he only pretends to be now.
Well if you ask me, provided superpowers like that existed, a character like Homelander despite how over the top he is is much more likely to exist in real life than a Superman. Have you ever looked at what the Greek gods got up to who modern superheroes were modeled after in many ways? In the words of Butcher, "fucking diabolical".
One of the things I love about Homelander is the potential he had to be a hero. If he’d had the upbringing of Clark Kent, he’d be a genuine Superman. Monsters aren’t usually born, they’re made.
Homelander displays many Cluster B personality traits, but none of us are the slightest bit qualified to 'diagnose' a fictional character even remotely accurately.
Imagine a version of Homelander that was a genuinely good guy, who enjoyed helping people and spending his spare time hiking in the woods and being close to nature.
They played every badass troupe here to perfection. Karl Urban take a bow, Butcher deserved someone like you to pull off a scene like this even if it was slightly off source material
Dr vogel saying "how could you be this (i assume its a nasty word)", and yet he did the things he done, causing pains and suffering to others by creating a monster.. its justified, rather, its mandatory to return him the favor, how gruesome that is
Vogelbad had the gull to ask Billy how he could be such a way, yet this is the man who created the monster that destroyed Billy's life and the lives of others just to create the perfect product for Vought.
Honestly with all the changes they made from the comics I was really hoping they weren't going to take Butch down the villain route. Make no mistake, comics Butcher and now TV Butcher are not anti-heroes, they are straight villains of an order of magnitude beyond even Homelander. Homelander at least has the excuse of being literally tortured and manipulated to the point of insanity, Butcher knowingly and willfully choses his betrayals and murderousness. All the talk of vengeance and holding people accountable are just excuses, not for himself but to others in order to manipulate them into seeing him as a deeply flawed and emotionally broke but ultimately good man so they will help him in his mad dog desires for violence. If Butcher had raised Ryan instead of Becca he would have done nearly the same thing as Voglebaum just to have a supe weapon of his own.
@@5Ci0NInvincible, they probably want to air that first, wait until everyone's bored and ready for another season and then release the Boys. I wouldn't be surprised if they flop back and forth between the two, honestly.
What makes Butcher so great is that he knows he is bad. But he's way too far down the line to turn back now. He will destroy himself in his pursuit of vengeance, but he'll drag Homelander down to hell with him.
Why was that like by Dr. V censored? He doesn’t curse in the actual scene all he says is “how can you be so…” I’m not sure what they were censoring here lol
I liked S3 more than S2, that congresswoman with blood quirk was so stupidly overpowered that somewhat ruined my experience. On the other hand Gen V did a good job with exploring her.
I want KARL anddd the HOMELANDER ACTOR to both be wolverine!!! Lol theyd be great, still wouldn't mind charlie hunam or tom hardy and keanu reeves as wolverine but i know those are more unrealistic for a variety of known reasons
As much as Homelander is a D cant help to feel bad for how he was treated growing up that turned him into what he is and the lives it destroyed. The real super villains are the non supes.
0:20 Notice how he just drives across the lawn 💀
butcher is a menace
@@ray0010 That he is
I didn't notice that
@GaryTurbo Well now yer seen it
He's just an edgelord.
That look at 1:20 when he realizes fully that Vogelbaum is the one who turned an innocent boy into a monster. Also realizing that in many of the ways that matter he and Homelander are a LOT alike.
I think Butcher was disappointed to hear what Voglebaum had to say, like he was probably hoping to hear that Homelander was a devil child who tortured animals for fun, but hearing he was actually a sweet young boy who liked Davey Crockett books and wanted to see the woods was unsatisfying.
Like the second he heard all of it, he came to understand that Homelander wasn't always the monster he came to know and that Voglebaum is to blame here
Yeah, and in fact he probably started empaphising a bit with Homelander (of course, he would never ever RESPECT him, just feel for his past) for having a terrible father figure, and I think this also explains how easy it was for Butcher to threaten Voglebaum so harshly. he saw the person he hates the most in the doc (his own father).
@@Dukesparrow1999Yep
@@Dukesparrow1999like all children.
The boy who burns the whole village down to feel its warmth
When Vogelbaum tells Butcher how Homelander was sweet and kind and how he needed him to be something he didnt want to be, you can see in Butchers face how it reminded him of his father and how he grew up 😢
Nope
@@doombada1mit's clear as day.
As someone who grew up with an abusive father who had a similar mindset in how he wanted to raise me, Butcher's subtle shift in his eyes and facial expression and the way he glanced away said it all. In that moment, he realised the truth and that Voglebaum was the truly evil one, and Homelander was just a result of abuse like him. It doesn't excuse anything Homelander has done, or redeem him at all in Butchers eyes, but in that moment, Butcher feels empathy for him and realises they're both a lot more similar than he thought.
Turn the video quality up and rewatch it if you missed it.
@@CryptidRenfri Shut up
@@doombada1mYou alright there?
@@camelmanguy9181 No, i got betrayed
It's crazy how Homelander could've turned out a good guy, but he was molded into a super powered pos
I think about this about most people in real life.
Just think about the latest data that says the greatest indicator of wealth and/or success is where you were born and raised, no matter your skills, genetics, or race. That's terrifying.
Like any other human, we are molded by our chikdhoods
He was born from a test tube and raised in a laboratory by a scientist. It's not difficult to see how this could have gone so wrong.
I don't think some of you guys listened to what was going on in the video
Yeah but he could’ve still turned later on. Look at Sephiroth in Final Fantasy 7.
Only on rewatching I realised how masterfully this episode compares butchers childhood to homelanders.
A sweet boy who wanted childish things, and a father figure who abused him to mold him into a “strong man”. For themselves.
Extremely touching.
I'm so grateful that they bleeped out the F words while he was talking about brutally murdering the man's entire family.
IKR? You'd be scarred for life if you heard them wicked words.
I am too. Unironically.
@@ThePlantoparadise Does that word terrify you?
Truly a Shame to b censored
@@TheMapSinner You gotta learn how to spell the word "be."
Butcher was terrifying here. He truly is the human reflection of Homelander.
After all, The Monster created the Mosnster
@@losthunt9061 Amen
True. At 01:44, Butcher realizes that he and Homelander had very similar backgrounds
Genuinely he couldn't get any more intimidating then he is in this scene. When he emotionlessly locks eyes with Homelander's creator you don't see the face of a broken man, but the cold piercing gaze of a blood-lusted murderer with full intent to takes someones life that day
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The way he sips his cup of tea is terrifyingly beautiful
You can see the barely contained bloodlust. He is practically begging for him to lie to him so that he has a chance to kill him.
The moment he drinks that cup of tea, i know exactly who was my favorites character in The Boys
The cup of tea is not really a character.
@@Sol_Badguy_GGno shit
@@Sol_Badguy_GGI beg to differ
That’s your cup of tea, right?
It's cup of cha
That's exactly how I am gonna drink tea in front of the person I hate.
Me too
wow you sound so cool
I'd have been very suspicious of that cup of tea if I were Butcher.
my thought as well
Cup of Chai
1:28 Butcher realised both him and Homelander are the product of abusive fathers.
just noticed the actor who plays the doctor is also is the voice actor for Cesar in fallout new Vegas ( the best game ever)
That is so boss!
And carmine falcone in Gotham
And Rawls from the wire!
thank you so much, i was trying to remember why he sounded so familiar, but he wasnt saying "Praetoriats, attack" much so i couldnt quite tell.
@@ckopen7192 literally the same thing that came to mind😂
The saddest part of this story is the implication that if John had been raised the way that, say, Clark Kent was raised, he might actually have become what he only pretends to be now.
Well if you ask me, provided superpowers like that existed, a character like Homelander despite how over the top he is is much more likely to exist in real life than a Superman. Have you ever looked at what the Greek gods got up to who modern superheroes were modeled after in many ways? In the words of Butcher, "fucking diabolical".
i am really surprised judge dredd didn't judge him on the spot.
3:47
That smile. That damned smile.
One of the things I love about Homelander is the potential he had to be a hero. If he’d had the upbringing of Clark Kent, he’d be a genuine Superman. Monsters aren’t usually born, they’re made.
This is Butcher being nice.
So this is what Lieutenant Rawls has been up to since retiring from the BPD.
You beat me to it!
…living in a mansion up in Oshawa, Ontario.
He sold out Homelander because he was tanking the stats
This right here is why i think the closest to a diagnose we could give to homelander is Borderline Personality Disorder, not Psychopathy.
He could also be a sociopath considering sociopaths are more products of their childhood rather than genetics like psychopaths.
@@borissand3891 backwards but yeah
Homelander displays many Cluster B personality traits, but none of us are the slightest bit qualified to 'diagnose' a fictional character even remotely accurately.
You can't diagnose a drama character. This isn't Always Sunny.
@@ALotOfCancer watch me
Never has sipping a cup of tea looked so menacing 😂😂
The real reason the doctor made Homelander, is to mess with Jimmy McNulty.
This series is honestly a masterpiece, I've read the comics yes there is changes but the casting in this is glorious
"How can you be so..." MFer, you made me. Just as you made Homelander.
Davey Crocket, Manifest Destiny, Teddy Rosevelt, prior to superpower status... Homelander's timeline was basically America's timeline.
Good catch m8
The fact that he slurped his tea was a wonderful detail that added the icing to this f-you cake.
Imagine a version of Homelander that was a genuinely good guy, who enjoyed helping people and spending his spare time hiking in the woods and being close to nature.
They played every badass troupe here to perfection. Karl Urban take a bow, Butcher deserved someone like you to pull off a scene like this even if it was slightly off source material
Butcher is almost savage enough to be my spirit animal. Almost.
Dr vogel saying "how could you be this (i assume its a nasty word)", and yet he did the things he done, causing pains and suffering to others by creating a monster.. its justified, rather, its mandatory to return him the favor, how gruesome that is
3:41 that's the scariest a man has ever looked while drinking a cup of tea
That side eye around his cup of tea at the end. Just like a shark.
Ave, true to Caesar
Butcher, Baker & Homelander's Maker.
3:11 That's the real Butcher, and when the woman comes back in he puts back on the mask. Not unlike what Homelander does.
God, this show is better than therapy for those of us who grew up as abused kids.
So fucking cathartic.
Yeah, no, get therapy. You can still watch the show.
Don't get therapy it's just paying a fortune to talkkk
I've never been more intimidated by someone moving a chair
The true monster here is the daughter. Who pours the milk first followed by the tea! Its like drinking Guinness direct from a can.
cry about it
That’s got to be on the Geneva convention
You never accept food or drink from an enemy. Or those that might be.
Watching Karl Urban have the time of his life as this absolute cartoon character is the biggest highlight of what's already a once in a lifetime show.
3:37 this will always be one of the funniest scenes for me.
Vogelbad had the gull to ask Billy how he could be such a way, yet this is the man who created the monster that destroyed Billy's life and the lives of others just to create the perfect product for Vought.
Honestly with all the changes they made from the comics I was really hoping they weren't going to take Butch down the villain route. Make no mistake, comics Butcher and now TV Butcher are not anti-heroes, they are straight villains of an order of magnitude beyond even Homelander. Homelander at least has the excuse of being literally tortured and manipulated to the point of insanity, Butcher knowingly and willfully choses his betrayals and murderousness. All the talk of vengeance and holding people accountable are just excuses, not for himself but to others in order to manipulate them into seeing him as a deeply flawed and emotionally broke but ultimately good man so they will help him in his mad dog desires for violence. If Butcher had raised Ryan instead of Becca he would have done nearly the same thing as Voglebaum just to have a supe weapon of his own.
We just not gonna mention how butcher definitely necked that entire cup of char in one go
When Vogelbaum said - “I am Vogelnevitable” but Butcher said- “And I Am Butcher” and then tore his limbs off was so badass.
Longest evil sip ever 3:37
Give us Season 4 already.
Can't wait to see what that Psycho HOMELANDER have in store for us.
It's been done for over a year, just sitting on a shelf for Prime to release it.
Idk why it's taken so long.
@@5Ci0N but i heard only last week they completed a few left out VFX work.
@@5Ci0NInvincible, they probably want to air that first, wait until everyone's bored and ready for another season and then release the Boys. I wouldn't be surprised if they flop back and forth between the two, honestly.
This is correct answer @@nagger8216
Oh boy you'll love season 4 ep 4
the way he sipped the tea comparable to Paul Perkenstein from the Wide World of Web
What makes Butcher so great is that he knows he is bad. But he's way too far down the line to turn back now. He will destroy himself in his pursuit of vengeance, but he'll drag Homelander down to hell with him.
Alternative history, homelander and butcher run away simultaneously and meet.
Sometimes I honestly dunno who is worse Homelander or Butcher. Like what is there left for Butcher when it is all over anyway?
2:15 You still think Butcher is the good guy?
Never was
That tea-slurping is as "I will fucking annihilate your soul" as it can be 😅
Really takes the punch out of these scenes when he bitched out at his only opportunity to kill homelander in season 3
When someone asks me when I last enjoyed a Marvel movie: 3:20
i think thats the first time a SLURP, has ever been used as an intimidation tool.
farrrk that exhale will always get me
*sips menacingly*
Butcher over here living long enough to become the villian literally lol 😂
some guy asking homelander what butcher's wife was like
The tip of hypocrisy is blipping the f words given rest of the content.
The most menacing way to drink tea
the cup was poisoned but as he didnt die the Doc knew he was in trouble and then he talked.
3:39 oh he’s about to lose it
Most fan based Super Psyco:Homelander
Did you mean psycho?
@@Elriuhilu yes😁
Butcher and homelander are 1 and the same sort off minus the graping of course
He only let him in because he knew Butcher would get in anyway.
Why was that like by Dr. V censored? He doesn’t curse in the actual scene all he says is “how can you be so…” I’m not sure what they were censoring here lol
Butcher would have turned out just like Homelander.
Took an innocent (albeit dangerously powerful) child and molded him into a monster
Homelander is a victim of Vaught and Vogelbaum, just like Butcher is.
The lenghts Rawls went just to take down McNulty
LOL Butcher showed absolutely NO manners and did his best in a subtle way to be quite annoying.
If Butcher had the same powers and strength as Homelander, Butcher would be far more dangerous
Hopefully the wait for season 4 is worth it. I, and millions of others, weren’t too satisfied with the seasons 3 finale.
I was. Less so with Gen V.
The real question is wtf is Starlight going to look like since that actress had a ton of ill advised plastic surgery? A shame, that.
I liked S3 more than S2, that congresswoman with blood quirk was so stupidly overpowered that somewhat ruined my experience. On the other hand Gen V did a good job with exploring her.
BRING ME SEASON FOUR RAHHHH
I keep checking to see if Season 4 has started. When do we get 4?
Imagine this Butcher meeting Butcher from season 4
Waiting for season 4 ❤❤❤
Davey Crockett is the man
hail mighty Caesar
I came here for the tea scene...
more Billy Joel songs in the new season
I want KARL anddd the HOMELANDER ACTOR to both be wolverine!!! Lol theyd be great, still wouldn't mind charlie hunam or tom hardy and keanu reeves as wolverine but i know those are more unrealistic for a variety of known reasons
I'm looking forward to the new season!
So this is what happened to rawls after he retired.
My favourite Butcher ❤
how he never played Bruce Wayne/Batman is beyond me
Butcher is a beast😂😂
Nothing against Mr Hackman, but Karl urban should have played Wolverine.
He's like the guy from sicario! No fucks to give!
Manifest Destiny....
As much as Homelander is a D cant help to feel bad for how he was treated growing up that turned him into what he is and the lives it destroyed. The real super villains are the non supes.
How he plants " the Forrest " in his confession. Hahha
Is that Hank
Vought Maded Homelander the way he is.
He loved “the woods”
Who was behind it in Gen V 👀👀👀
the boys billy butcher
mortal kombat johnny cage
Ave Caesar
True to Caesar