True but he wouldn't of been a winning fighter regardless. Dude had decent wrestling and that's literally it. Talent wise in a whole, that season was by far the worst group in the shows history IMO😊
@@mike55k2007 why's that a point. Decent wrestling can win fights. He wouldn't have been great but would have been one of those undercard guys. Also if he got that far, No matter how bad that season was, he has more skills then just decent wrestling
@Sam I'm talking as a UFC caliber fighter. Obv he was skilled at alot of things and had heart for days. He would of twisted my ass up like a pretzel. But there's a reasons anytime a site does a worst UFC TUF winners or a similar version he's always on it.
It’s unfair to say EVERY fighter from TUF China. Zhang Lipeng has gone from 9-9 after being cut from UFC to now 33-12 and fighting for ONE Championship.
So, when Brookins gets Oliveira and Porier, "he's been dealt a rough hand", but when Montaño gets Schevchenko and Peña, people give her shit? How's that fair?
That's simplifying the shit out of it. Veronica retired due to lingering complications of concussions. Now that that's cleared up, she gets to train with husband, Dan fucking Hardy. So if you want to simplify it that much then sure.
@smith9157 concussion complications doesn't mean she's a bad fighter. And with her husband being her trainer. She's fine. It's like saying "wow gane must be bad because he lost to a part time fighter." You're kind of right but only if you leave out 100% of the necessary information
@@NateOvTrinity yes, because Jon Jones and Veronica Hardy’s careers are the perfect careers to make an analogy between 😂😂😂 Shes called herself a part time fighter, idk why you wanna die on this hill
Dude is the biggest flop. Gets booted out for kicking in a limo window and shouting “IM A UFC FIGHTER”, comes back on a show that is literally called Redemption then takes PEDs. Talk about wasting opportunities
@RemingtonMiles-sr9uf nah that's the bullsh*t nicco gave after she "failed" to cut the weight she didn't want to lose, the embedded series showed she had no intention to make weight. Chose to get stripped rather than face Valentina
Man, imagine how proud Nico would have made indigenous and native people all over the US. Even if she lost against Shevchenko…so what? Being the first native champion is a great thing…too bad she blew it so horribly.
To all my brothers (and sisters but I don't think any ladies would be in here😂) I hope today was good to you and that tomorrow will be even better! Do you guys think the top exciting fighters who won TUF would make a good video? Im wondering if that would be a even hard list to compile.🤔 All i know is Chris Leben better be on that list or the whole list would be voided 😂
Nico had me fooled. After that season I thought she was gonna go in that division and wreck shop. Too bad the only thing she wrecked was her reputation.
If you want to do an episode sometime about the TUF China season, I would be interested in seeing something covering the Japanese "Road to Octagon" season. I think that was the one that had professional ladies man Teruto Ishihara and the professional creepy guy DJ Taiki, along with one dude with awesome pink hair.
Yes, I know they are different places, and these are different TUFs I am referencing. I would prefer an episode covering the Japanese "Road to Octagon" series, which my original post said. This episode mentioned TUF China, which is related but not the same series or the same country.
Thanks man. Just gotta keep on trucking and hope the algorithm delivers. I could make explicitly casual friendly videos, but I prefer to mix things up and cover some stories that interest me or I think other people find interesting.
I feel like t.u.f. at some point was only there to generate money. Get a bunch of ok guys to fight and show them on t.v.. then people like certain people or hate them. Then they tune in for huge numbers. Dana could care less about finding the next star. These fighters wouldnt be on thatbshow if they were.
Pretty much every TUF contestant ever has been pretty awful including the winners. There have been a couple of rare exceptions, but for the most part it's been a bunch of mediocre fighters facing off against each other for a shot at a charity contract in the UFC.
I think you really did Travis Lutter dirty by skimming over the fact they guy made weight to fight 4 of 5 times in one year as a big middleweight. The UFC did him dirty by making his title fight so soon after the TUF win meanwhile Matt Serra is a natural lightweight and had his fight much later giving himself more time to recover.
@@TehUltimateSnake “”Thank god I never won tuf, cause I’d be number one. Quote me on that” - This monkey Just works” -TehUltimateSnake -Wayne Gretzky -Michael Scott
Jonathan Brookins seemed like a nice guy and good fighter that season. Absolutely TOUGH he got charles and dustin and then the door
he must have pissed off dana and dana said feed him to the wolves
Dude fought Aldo hard too in the wec
@@drunkenmmamaster419 came here to say that...GSP also said he had the potential to be great...makes you wonder how seriously he took his mma career
Good comments guys, forgot how legit he was
@@drunkenmmamaster419 I forgot he fought Aldo
Bro that intro sound threw me back in time like 15 fkn years. imiss goldie
Colton Smith with some generationally unlucky booking
Smith's opponents' combined UFC record: 40-14
Fuck Colton Smith, that fake glove touching little bitch.
True but he wouldn't of been a winning fighter regardless. Dude had decent wrestling and that's literally it. Talent wise in a whole, that season was by far the worst group in the shows history IMO😊
@@mike55k2007 why's that a point. Decent wrestling can win fights. He wouldn't have been great but would have been one of those undercard guys. Also if he got that far, No matter how bad that season was, he has more skills then just decent wrestling
@Sam I'm talking as a UFC caliber fighter. Obv he was skilled at alot of things and had heart for days. He would of twisted my ass up like a pretzel. But there's a reasons anytime a site does a worst UFC TUF winners or a similar version he's always on it.
@@mike55k2007 Until the Pena/Nunes season.
Dang I wish Roxanne won TUF. Not that she would've beat Shevchenko. But she would've at least fought her 💀
Valentina by murder in round 1 😅
Roxanne was a true trailblazer and while the game evolved quickly since she started, she’s still a historic figure in women’s mma.
I did an entire career Retrospective on Roxanne just before her final fight.
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Yeah I literally know nothing about TUF China so video about that would be awesome
Betting expert Krause lol
Montano got lazy after winning the title...she reached the pinnacle of the sport too soon
She got scared.
Damn Colton Smith fought killers
Had zero respect for him after his fake glove touch bs.
Plus beating and undersized Ricci was laughable
@@jbj7599 Khamzat did the same thing early in his career
@@jbj7599 undersized? I remember Ricci being the same size.
@@richardgordon0407 ....and khamzat is a disrespectful bum.
@@lakesthaproduct44 ricci was a 155er that didn't cut weight for TUF.
Colton smith just taught a seminar at my gym yesterday. I didn’t go to it, but a funny coincidence lol
I've rooted against Smith ever since he took down that guy after he baited him In for the glove touch
Hard to believe
Travis 'Michael Jordan' Lutters flamed out so hard..
Well luster was the first person to steal a round from Silva . For a time it was only him and Hendo that had a round against the man during his reign!
Not great press for One....
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I always forget Nico was the first womens 125 champion
I miss Brookins he seemed like a nice guy probably too nice for mma
In hindsight, I really wish Roxi had won that fight...
@@jacobsteinmeyer9859 even though she would've lost badly to Valentina Shevchenko, she would've showed up and fight
Honestly Colton smith had 3 really hard fights to start off in ufc
love the vids brother
Anyone else think Jesse Taylor looks like John Rocker? (Braves controversial pitcher, for those who don’t know)
Lmao just as I’m thinking “poor Dhiego” he says it 😂😂😂
It’s unfair to say EVERY fighter from TUF China. Zhang Lipeng has gone from 9-9 after being cut from UFC to now 33-12 and fighting for ONE Championship.
The level of competition is very different. Your record should get better when you start fighting weaker fighters
For his 44th fight he fought someone with an 0-4 record lmao
0-1 for his 43rd fight i mean come on that is not impressive
@@jimlahey3919 He's essentially turned into a can crusher.
Any fighter with over 20 career losses pretty much proves they can’t hack it in this sport.
Rumor has it, Nico still has nightmare's of Bullet...
Banging content as always INC, great work!💯
Literally every time i see diego lima hes catching L's 😂
Jesse Taylor was a good fighter and honestly didnt seem like a bad dude but man he cant handle booze
So, when Brookins gets Oliveira and Porier, "he's been dealt a rough hand", but when Montaño gets Schevchenko and Peña, people give her shit? How's that fair?
Well for one she ducked the shit out of Valentina as champ and had a bunch of health issues. I don't need to bash her but I can see why so many would
Awesome! Now I don't feel like a bum.
you can already throw Julianna Miller up there. she lost to a part time fighter
That's simplifying the shit out of it.
Veronica retired due to lingering complications of concussions. Now that that's cleared up, she gets to train with husband, Dan fucking Hardy.
So if you want to simplify it that much then sure.
@@NateOvTrinity you didn't make it much better with your explanation
@smith9157 concussion complications doesn't mean she's a bad fighter. And with her husband being her trainer. She's fine.
It's like saying "wow gane must be bad because he lost to a part time fighter."
You're kind of right but only if you leave out 100% of the necessary information
@@NateOvTrinity yes, because Jon Jones and Veronica Hardy’s careers are the perfect careers to make an analogy between 😂😂😂 Shes called herself a part time fighter, idk why you wanna die on this hill
@@NateOvTrinity she wont sleep with you
Imagine winning tuf and then being judged by some youtuber.. Jesse taylor deserves no mercy though
Dude is the biggest flop. Gets booted out for kicking in a limo window and shouting “IM A UFC FIGHTER”, comes back on a show that is literally called Redemption then takes PEDs. Talk about wasting opportunities
Nico Montano, actually scared to the point of losing her belt😂😂😂
She was never even an actual fighter
Nicco went into kidney failure. She didn't have much of a choice.
@RemingtonMiles-sr9uf nah that's the bullsh*t nicco gave after she "failed" to cut the weight she didn't want to lose, the embedded series showed she had no intention to make weight. Chose to get stripped rather than face Valentina
@@goodsolonius7305 Her trainer/dietician and more specifically the doctor verbally said this.
If travis lutter had of only been in shape the silva fight have been a lot different. The first round was interesting
Oh the cool comic book font thing…
Ayyy my man Jared Revel making the video!
Hey, Travis Lutter is the Michael Jordan of Jiu Jitsu according to Mike Goldberg
Man, imagine how proud Nico would have made indigenous and native people all over the US. Even if she lost against Shevchenko…so what? Being the first native champion is a great thing…too bad she blew it so horribly.
I liked Brookins during that season. Too bad he never met his potential
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That is the most lesbian lineup I have ever seen
Know what I haven't seen anyone talk about the Chinese Ultimate fighters. It was that bad?
The Chinese ultimate fighter deserves a video on its own.
It’ll be getting one someday. Might try and time it the next time the UFC do an event in China.
Nico was 100% the biggest waste of time and space.
Awesome
Brookins should not be on there
Yea they did Brookins DIRTY with those 2 match ups, jeez...
Lutter doesn't fit here.
No Mac Danzig?
Nah even though he was a prick. Danzig picked up wins here and there
I was sure Amir Sadollah would be on this list
Chris Jennerman is pretty dam bad
My List Goes A Lil Something Like This & In No Specific Order
Nicco Montaño
Amir Sadollah
Colton Smith
James Wilks
Jesse Taylor
I'll always hate Amir Sadhala the dude literally came in with no fights at all
To all my brothers (and sisters but I don't think any ladies would be in here😂) I hope today was good to you and that tomorrow will be even better! Do you guys think the top exciting fighters who won TUF would make a good video? Im wondering if that would be a even hard list to compile.🤔 All i know is Chris Leben better be on that list or the whole list would be voided 😂
Chris Leben had a pretty decent career and fought killers
@@nuuppeli and was fun to watch
Also Leben never won the tuf. He only fought in the first finales prelims so hes not qualified for the list 🤔
@@nuuppeli damn I guess not huh! Damn you're right. Do you remember who won that season
Diego Sanchez and Forest Griffin
Nico had me fooled. After that season I thought she was gonna go in that division and wreck shop. Too bad the only thing she wrecked was her reputation.
So travis fought Anderson silve and the rich Franklin yeah thats fair
If you want to do an episode sometime about the TUF China season, I would be interested in seeing something covering the Japanese "Road to Octagon" season. I think that was the one that had professional ladies man Teruto Ishihara and the professional creepy guy DJ Taiki, along with one dude with awesome pink hair.
Japanese or Chinese? They're different places ya know
Yes, I know they are different places, and these are different TUFs I am referencing. I would prefer an episode covering the Japanese "Road to Octagon" series, which my original post said. This episode mentioned TUF China, which is related but not the same series or the same country.
@michaelklipper2005 a bit far fetched for my taste
Didn’t even know China had an ultimate fighter season, I’d love to see you guys do something on that
Expecting female native American fighters to cut weight to make the weight they said they'd be, where's the inclusiveness..
Nico Montaño has the credit of avoiding a fight at all cost during her "UFC career"
Ryan Hall
Dropping Darren Elkins with a spinning back kick saves him IMO
Remember James Wilks?
This channel has always deserved more subs. Always love the lists.
Thanks man. Just gotta keep on trucking and hope the algorithm delivers. I could make explicitly casual friendly videos, but I prefer to mix things up and cover some stories that interest me or I think other people find interesting.
@@ItsNotCagefighting much appreciated!
I feel like t.u.f. at some point was only there to generate money. Get a bunch of ok guys to fight and show them on t.v.. then people like certain people or hate them. Then they tune in for huge numbers. Dana could care less about finding the next star. These fighters wouldnt be on thatbshow if they were.
My question is how is it not juliana miller her striking is worse than cm punk
The first native America champion is a white lady
Pretty much every TUF contestant ever has been pretty awful including the winners. There have been a couple of rare exceptions, but for the most part it's been a bunch of mediocre fighters facing off against each other for a shot at a charity contract in the UFC.
Jesse Taylor had a very respectable career outside the UFC
Yea he was good in the minor leagues. Just not good enough for the UFC’s talent
Bro pissed himself on live tv 💀
Valentina would of DESTROYED Nico.... geez she dodged a bullet ( ha) there.
Went to school with Jesse Taylor. Yes he was always like that. Nice to see them Spokane boys and girls up there! Chiesa and pena
Are you telling me there is a guy named Eddie Gordon in MMA? And hes not a capoeira especialist? What a waste.
Damn that Sonic Adventure music just took me back to getting a Dreamcast😪
Who was wonder woman in the weigh in?
Rachel Ostovich
Sounds like the going gets tough by Billy Ocean.
4:06 he did the kamarudeen before it was cool
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I like Colton’s interview when he won
Didn't Cody say something about Colton that tj did something to him in practice I could be wrong but I thought maybe
*Excellent video!*
They should have kept Jesse Taylor the first tuf season guy was good and could have had a good career in the ufc
I think you really did Travis Lutter dirty by skimming over the fact they guy made weight to fight 4 of 5 times in one year as a big middleweight.
The UFC did him dirty by making his title fight so soon after the TUF win meanwhile Matt Serra is a natural lightweight and had his fight much later giving himself more time to recover.
Thank god I never won tuf, cause I’d be number one. Quote me on that
"Thank god I never won tuf, cause I’d be number one. Quote me on that"
-This monkey Just works
@@TehUltimateSnake “”Thank god I never won tuf, cause I’d be number one. Quote me on that”
- This monkey Just works”
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