I test drove both and bought a PDK. I preferred the sensible gearing and I don’t regret it at all. I’ve had it on track as well and it was superb. I’ve owned 6 modern Porsche’s with 50% being manual, 987 and 981 Spyder’s and a 981 Boxster S. I do get fed up of those who think a GTS, GT3 to T should be manual only. Test drive both transmissions and buy the one that you prefer. Funnily enough, in the UK it is the used manual T, GTS and GT3’s that don’t sell as quickly and suffer much lower retail prices compared to their PDK equivalent.
Will have to disagree on getting a Carrera instead of a T if speced with PDK. You cannot get a Carrera with PASM and lowered, torque vectoring, light weight glass, less sound deadening etc. The T overall feels much more raw than the Carrera, which has nothing to do with the transmission. The manual only 992.2 is a clear statement by Porsche as to what their intentions with the car is, and I respect that. But there definitely was a market for a T with PDK as long as you cannot get the T options on a Carrera. I'm very glad I was lucky enough to get my hands on a 992.1 T with PDK.
Hmm…. Bigger breaks and 6-speed transmission are welcomed updates (although I am not convinced that the ratio in the lower gear has shortened) but for the rest I am not particularly impressed. New fabrics and wooden gear knob looks somehow strange in this car with the all digital dashboard and the new starting button unit. The 992.1 looks more consistent to me.
@@mikerusznak That is unfortunately true, that Porsche doesn’t show the gear ratios in the technical description . But if you look at the acceleration figures it becomes somewhat clear. If they used the new GT3 gearbox with the shorter ration, acceleration should have been down to around 4.2s-4.3s 0-100 km/h. I read somewhere that is alle new gearbox derived from the old 7- seven speed. But maybe I am wrong here.
I think Porsche has jumped the shark on their pricing. I’m glad I have my 911, but don’t see myself buying another. Over $150k for a somewhat lightly optioned T? Come on. Don’t forget all the dealer mandatory add ons and dealer markups.
As a 992.1 T owner, I now love my analog tachometer and turn-key start even more. I actually use 7th gear on long freeway drives to save gas (it has gotten expensive). Not a fan of 'forced' rear-wheel-steering, to me it feels weird and less “classic 911”…not to mention that price increase (!)
Me too, 2024 992.1 T just received it a couple months ago and under 200 miles love it. I love our analog tach and also don’t like the new wooden shift knob. I did the same build spec as mine which was minimum options but included the LWB, and now the 992.2 T is about $10k more. I hope our analog tach will make it a classic and increase in value, but no matter how much, I don’t think I will be selling it ever.
I bet the resale is quite a bit higher on the 992.1’s vs the 992.2’a because of those things mentioned. Be nice to have the bigger brakes but other than that, 992.1 sounds better.
I’ve heard some reservations about the digital tach, whilst less “classic”, it does refresh faster for more accurate readings on a fast revving motor. Carbs would be more classic as well but alas I learned to accept EFI without complaint 😂
I wonder if Manthey Racing would prefer building a custom GT3 RS on a 992.1 chassis instead of a 992.2 design? It may be that I don’t know Jack, but perhaps if someone could give me some clarity on this question?
Shorter gear ratios and underrated Hp numbers are the only things that would justify buying a ‘25 Carrera T. If buyers are having to consider other options then something is definitely wrong with Porsche’s pricing strategy. My guess is there will be plenty of Carrera and Carrera T’s being discounted.
My problem with the T is it is limited to just the black interior seats (various iterations) and looses some of the sound deadening. I like it other than that. For me, the base Carrera with a manual would be preferred. I don't care for the look of the sports exhaust system either, the two exhaust tips looks much better and the money is better spent on an aftermarket exhaust. I agree that the side stickers are ugly. I like they offered it in a Cabriolet, although the nearly $14k upgrade cost is questionable.
one of the reasons people chose T over base was limited slip diff, which T has... further, manual ain't exactly a good choice for track focused car as pdk is infinitely more capable.. not sure why they would hobble this car with no pdk option..
That’s a good question that I’ve been also wondering. I know in the GT3 there is an option to disable auto blip but in the S I was driving yesterday there was no option to turn it off.
To answer your first question about T’s being spec’d with PDK: it’s the cheapest way to get a 911 with an LSD (and rear-steer for that matter). That should really be a prerequisite for a sports car, but in Porsche world you pay a premium.
Wow...start playing with the configurator and I'm already looking at $180K on a "T" model. Not worth the upgrade from 992.1 C2. Great video and info...thanks.
Except the reason you want a T is for the sporty driving aspect and manual transmission engagement rather than the "luxury comfort". From what I've noticed Porsche will punish you and upcharge comfort options and other add-ons on the T than say the S or GTS models. Imo the T is more than sufficient for 70% of drivers with the leather T package & PDLS but to each their own, though I will agree for your case I wouldn't upgrade from a 992.1 unless you consider perhaps the t-hybrid GTS.
If they offered the T cab as a Spyder then that would have been cool. However that would be much more expensive given the way Porsche markets the Spyder models.
People who are just looking for a 911 at the best price may well be affected by these steep raises, but the enthusiasts who love and want a 911 (and can afford one) whatever the price variations, not so much. And though the 2025 911 lineup is getting very expensive, seems to me that the new Carrera T is a very good pick. I would choose it over the base Carrera because it’s more of a driver’s car 😎
I'm a current owner of a 991.2 manual T - I love it, the car has turned out to be much more than any of the opinions that were first published about it. Personally, I love everything that Porsche has done with the new T and I would be willing to put money on an new allocation today, except for one thing that I believe Porsche missed the mark on big time - The digital dash! The digital dash is underwhelming, out of place in this car and in my opinion cheapens the car greatly! For what they were trying to accomplish with this car, having a full analog dash in the detail of the fine watch appearance of the last models Tach, adding the light green printing on the instruments as a salute to the old 911's would have knocked this car out of the park!!! But I'm sorry, this digital dash, even with all of it's whistles and bells is more in the Mercedes or Ford range than the "Drivers Car" essence that Porsche was trying to accomplish with this version. They are going cheap while jacking up the price - in my opinion.
are you sure the 6 spd has different ratios? i've read in a few places that its the same 7 speed manual transmission that simply has the 7th gear removed. if the gears are spaced closer then it may be worth the upgrade
A huge part of the price increase is caused by European car makers being fined by the EU for not hitting thier targets for sales of EV's, as of 2o25 almost every combustion engined car will carry a €15,000 fine!. Europe has gone completely mad and the UK as usual is going along with this insanity.
Porsche seems to be playing chess with people. They save the perfect combinations for the 911 not everyone has access to and put out few combinations to attract buyers to a different trim of 911. Annoying but smart. I'm with you Mike when it comes to the price increase of all these 911 porsches. It would be hard to bring in new buyers into the non GT series 911s. I am still shocked with the price of the new GT3 and that is not factoring in options and dealer markups. That means the RS will be 300k plus. That price is tickering with Ferrari prices. Hmm yea idk about that. For those complaining about lack of manual options, i better see more 2025 carrera Ts on the road.
@mikerusznak in my opinion, I feel like the .1 would depreciate no matter what but for those "manual" lovers, it will definitely depreciate more. And ppl wanting the .2 will increase since no other 911 .2 has a manual option yet.
@@mikerusznak I just received my 992.1 T manual, LWB, love the exhaust the rev match. not so powerful but definitely handles and reminded me of rear engine enjoyment as in my 1992 964. I probably got the last allocations of the 992.1 T and I'm happy my base was $124k and I built it with minimum options that I wanted and ended up only $136k.
I hope this raises the value of my 992.1 T
Sure didn’t hurt it. 👍🏼
I test drove both and bought a PDK. I preferred the sensible gearing and I don’t regret it at all. I’ve had it on track as well and it was superb. I’ve owned 6 modern Porsche’s with 50% being manual, 987 and 981 Spyder’s and a 981 Boxster S. I do get fed up of those who think a GTS, GT3 to T should be manual only. Test drive both transmissions and buy the one that you prefer. Funnily enough, in the UK it is the used manual T, GTS and GT3’s that don’t sell as quickly and suffer much lower retail prices compared to their PDK equivalent.
Interesting. Here 1 out of 10 911s off the truck are pdk.
Will have to disagree on getting a Carrera instead of a T if speced with PDK. You cannot get a Carrera with PASM and lowered, torque vectoring, light weight glass, less sound deadening etc.
The T overall feels much more raw than the Carrera, which has nothing to do with the transmission.
The manual only 992.2 is a clear statement by Porsche as to what their intentions with the car is, and I respect that. But there definitely was a market for a T with PDK as long as you cannot get the T options on a Carrera.
I'm very glad I was lucky enough to get my hands on a 992.1 T with PDK.
👍🏼 992.1 it’s a keeper.
I too have a T with pdk. Ive had many manuals but taking a break
Hmm…. Bigger breaks and 6-speed transmission are welcomed updates (although I am not convinced that the ratio in the lower gear has shortened) but for the rest I am not particularly impressed. New fabrics and wooden gear knob looks somehow strange in this car with the all digital dashboard and the new starting button unit. The 992.1 looks more consistent to me.
The press release didn’t say what the changes were besides different ratios and removed seventh gear so maybe made six gear the tall gear?
@@mikerusznak That is unfortunately true, that Porsche doesn’t show the gear ratios in the technical description . But if you look at the acceleration figures it becomes somewhat clear. If they used the new GT3 gearbox with the shorter ration, acceleration should have been down to around 4.2s-4.3s 0-100 km/h. I read somewhere that is alle new gearbox derived from the old 7- seven speed. But maybe I am wrong here.
Interesting points, the T seems uniquely focused
Porsche owners: It isnt a real drivers car without a manual
Actual Porsche Race Cars: PDK.
Don’t get me wrong., PDK is awesome. It’s just not as engaging of a road drive. On the track it’s the way to go.
I think Porsche has jumped the shark on their pricing. I’m glad I have my 911, but don’t see myself buying another. Over $150k for a somewhat lightly optioned T? Come on. Don’t forget all the dealer mandatory add ons and dealer markups.
As a 992.1 T owner, I now love my analog tachometer and turn-key start even more. I actually use 7th gear on long freeway drives to save gas (it has gotten expensive). Not a fan of 'forced' rear-wheel-steering, to me it feels weird and less “classic 911”…not to mention that price increase (!)
Agree on all counts.👍🏼
Me too, 2024 992.1 T just received it a couple months ago and under 200 miles love it. I love our analog tach and also don’t like the new wooden shift knob. I did the same build spec as mine which was minimum options but included the LWB, and now the 992.2 T is about $10k more. I hope our analog tach will make it a classic and increase in value, but no matter how much, I don’t think I will be selling it ever.
I bet the resale is quite a bit higher on the 992.1’s vs the 992.2’a because of those things mentioned. Be nice to have the bigger brakes but other than that, 992.1 sounds better.
To be honest, the only reason the T appeals to me is the PTV with the limited slip. I can’t get that on a base 911.
I’ve heard some reservations about the digital tach, whilst less “classic”, it does refresh faster for more accurate readings on a fast revving motor. Carbs would be more classic as well but alas I learned to accept EFI without complaint 😂
Well put. 👍🏼
I wonder if Manthey Racing would prefer building a custom GT3 RS on a 992.1 chassis instead of a 992.2 design? It may be that I don’t know Jack, but perhaps if someone could give me some clarity on this question?
Shorter gear ratios and underrated Hp numbers are the only things that would justify buying a ‘25 Carrera T. If buyers are having to consider other options then something is definitely wrong with Porsche’s pricing strategy. My guess is there will be plenty of Carrera and Carrera T’s being discounted.
The gear ratios in the lower gears are the same.
My problem with the T is it is limited to just the black interior seats (various iterations) and looses some of the sound deadening. I like it other than that. For me, the base Carrera with a manual would be preferred. I don't care for the look of the sports exhaust system either, the two exhaust tips looks much better and the money is better spent on an aftermarket exhaust. I agree that the side stickers are ugly. I like they offered it in a Cabriolet, although the nearly $14k upgrade cost is questionable.
Well put. 👍🏼
Agree entirely, you can get several two tone color combinations on the base Carrera interior, why not offer them on the T ?
one of the reasons people chose T over base was limited slip diff, which T has... further, manual ain't exactly a good choice for track focused car as pdk is infinitely more capable.. not sure why they would hobble this car with no pdk option..
it's not a track car - it's a 'drivers' car
1:22 is there any manual porsche model where you cant turn off rev matching?
That’s a good question that I’ve been also wondering. I know in the GT3 there is an option to disable auto blip but in the S I was driving yesterday there was no option to turn it off.
On my 991.2 GTS, take traction control off and you don't get rev-matching, whichever mode you're in
Of course you can turn it off in every mode. Just do to themenu. It is even set default to off in normal mode. I own a 992.1 T.
To answer your first question about T’s being spec’d with PDK: it’s the cheapest way to get a 911 with an LSD (and rear-steer for that matter). That should really be a prerequisite for a sports car, but in Porsche world you pay a premium.
Good point. 👍🏼
Wow...start playing with the configurator and I'm already looking at $180K on a "T" model. Not worth the upgrade from 992.1 C2. Great video and info...thanks.
Thanks. Wow yeah I agree. 👊🏼
Except the reason you want a T is for the sporty driving aspect and manual transmission engagement rather than the "luxury comfort". From what I've noticed Porsche will punish you and upcharge comfort options and other add-ons on the T than say the S or GTS models. Imo the T is more than sufficient for 70% of drivers with the leather T package & PDLS but to each their own, though I will agree for your case I wouldn't upgrade from a 992.1 unless you consider perhaps the t-hybrid GTS.
If they offered the T cab as a Spyder then that would have been cool. However that would be much more expensive given the way Porsche markets the Spyder models.
@@qrtrscale they’ll probably still make a 992.2 Spyder. 👍🏼
People who are just looking for a 911 at the best price may well be affected by these steep raises, but the enthusiasts who love and want a 911 (and can afford one) whatever the price variations, not so much. And though the 2025 911 lineup is getting very expensive, seems to me that the new Carrera T is a very good pick. I would choose it over the base Carrera because it’s more of a driver’s car 😎
👍🏼💯
I'm a current owner of a 991.2 manual T - I love it, the car has turned out to be much more than any of the opinions that were first published about it. Personally, I love everything that Porsche has done with the new T and I would be willing to put money on an new allocation today, except for one thing that I believe Porsche missed the mark on big time - The digital dash! The digital dash is underwhelming, out of place in this car and in my opinion cheapens the car greatly! For what they were trying to accomplish with this car, having a full analog dash in the detail of the fine watch appearance of the last models Tach, adding the light green printing on the instruments as a salute to the old 911's would have knocked this car out of the park!!! But I'm sorry, this digital dash, even with all of it's whistles and bells is more in the Mercedes or Ford range than the "Drivers Car" essence that Porsche was trying to accomplish with this version. They are going cheap while jacking up the price - in my opinion.
Well put. Many others share your same feeling.
and no PCCB available. I think 991.2 was the sweet spot, little smaller, no Particulate filter. 50% of the price, can still tune to 500bhp
The 991.2 and 992.1 both had Carrera S wheels of the time in Titan Grey.
Agate Grey on my 992.1
Yes, Agate gray accents on the 992 Carrera T . They’re changing it to a different gray for the 992.2.
Does the 992.2 T have the turbos from the 992.1 GTS?
are you sure the 6 spd has different ratios? i've read in a few places that its the same 7 speed manual transmission that simply has the 7th gear removed. if the gears are spaced closer then it may be worth the upgrade
no, I’m not sure the ratios are different. Waiting for an answer from PCNA on that.
Mike do you have a link to the jacket you’re wearing in this video?
I got it here at the store a couple years ago but haven’t seen it in stock for a while. I’d check eBay.
Will this model have Hill Assist?
Probably
A huge part of the price increase is caused by European car makers being fined by the EU for not hitting thier targets for sales of EV's, as of 2o25 almost every combustion engined car will carry a €15,000 fine!. Europe has gone completely mad and the UK as usual is going along with this insanity.
I’ve heard this as well.
Yep EU has totally lost the plot with Green nonsense. Trump save us plz!!
Porsche seems to be playing chess with people. They save the perfect combinations for the 911 not everyone has access to and put out few combinations to attract buyers to a different trim of 911. Annoying but smart.
I'm with you Mike when it comes to the price increase of all these 911 porsches. It would be hard to bring in new buyers into the non GT series 911s. I am still shocked with the price of the new GT3 and that is not factoring in options and dealer markups. That means the RS will be 300k plus. That price is tickering with Ferrari prices. Hmm yea idk about that.
For those complaining about lack of manual options, i better see more 2025 carrera Ts on the road.
It will be interesting to see how the .2 T will affect the .1 values.
@mikerusznak in my opinion, I feel like the .1 would depreciate no matter what but for those "manual" lovers, it will definitely depreciate more. And ppl wanting the .2 will increase since no other 911 .2 has a manual option yet.
992.2 T sports exhaust is more quiet than 992.1 T, bummer.
I’m working on an in-car video comparing both. 👍🏼
@@mikerusznak I just received my 992.1 T manual, LWB, love the exhaust the rev match. not so powerful but definitely handles and reminded me of rear engine enjoyment as in my 1992 964. I probably got the last allocations of the 992.1 T and I'm happy my base was $124k and I built it with minimum options that I wanted and ended up only $136k.