Totally agree with Garrett..Did a tour in Afghanistan. We had two females for a FET (Female Engagement Team) team. We struggled to integrate them into a regular light infantry platoon. We did many dismounted patrols walking miles at high altitude with close to hundred pounds of gear. They stopped going on missions because they became a liability and this is regular Army not SF/Seals. I have nothing but love for these women. They are studs, they busted their asses and they owned their limitations.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle. According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@Anon000 I think you might be the same person I've replied to before but a different profile. I've laid out the beginning ways for you to begin increasing ligament, tendon, and bone density. It's a multi year process.
There's a Ranger podcast here where a retired Ranger goes on a soapbox about how some women are way tougher than most men. It happens but it's very rare.
The truth needs to be said. Thanks for the frankness of your response and insights. My opinion of the S.E.A.L teams are that they are the best of the best. Its not worth polluting the standards to make a few feel special.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle. According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@@Anonymous18817im no expert, but I would saying youd have a very difficult time passing. Not to deter you, youve done some of the research. If your that serious Id suggest looking at weight training, calcium supplements, etc as a means of increasing bone density. Might be worth talking to a doctor about things you can do to increase bone density. If you're willing to break your legs in training then give er. But I would also say talk to some seals about whether theyd want you on the team. If women are failing out due to breaking bones....isnt that going to make you a liability in deployment?
she did pass, with all kinds of help and start over and not doing what the men had to do... so anyone can pass if you do what captain kirk did in star trek and reprogram the game so you cant lose
Ranger school doesn't mean ranger tab. You should probably ask if they're passing to get ranger tab or scroll. Cause the likelihood it's the scroll (75th Ranger Reg) is going to be significantly lower than that of men's stats
Spot on. The intense training is also to ensure they do not break easy cos in the field particularly to their situation you can be on your own. I was RM we started with 65 ended up with 15 originals. Importantly also it is a mental health check to be beasted and accept it. So fitness over body structure multiplied by mental strength.
I see a flaw in that logic...we under utilized non-white men in war for a very long time in this great country. If women were about equal in physical ability to men, which they of course are not, Garrett here would still be arguing against them entering into the SEALs sanctum because of the other key differences between men & women that he'd cite, & he says as much in this short clip.
We rarely share opinions on our podcast, but this one has a mix of the opinion of an actual SEAL plus the mountains of research that was done. It goes against the narrative we hear a lot but that is because people fail to recognize their strengths and operate from a place of insecurity. There are many things that women do that men cannot and vice versa. Celebrating our strengths and developing them means everyone wins. It's up to us to do that.
I absolutely believe women have a place in military, but with that said, if they can't physically do what's needed, they should understand and allow the people who are the best to do the job. One weak link in the chain, dangerous missions turn to suicide missions.
100%. Women do have a place in the military and as you said, there is a standard that is based on what needs to be done. Meet the standard for whatever job you do. It's really that simple. Well said on your part.
In this situation its not who can simply do the job. You can have every single box checked at the top of the sheet and still be drummed out of special forces. If you cannot be trusted or not a team player you are gone. Personally I feel a woman would cause to many issues in these small communities.
@@ironpig701 Trust me , I understand what your saying, most likely more then most. What I will say, I don't care what sex the person doing sweeps or going on detail is, what I do care about is abilities and trust levels. Every member of a team knows what the person next to them is capable of. To know you have a weak link would cause the rest of them team to have to work harder and deal with extreme risks, both to protect themselves and each other. I have known women who could pass the special forces trials. With that said, it's not an average female by a long shot. 99.999 percent of women except this, as it would be extremely dangerous for them, and increase the risk for their brothers in arms. To ask to lower standards to allow a person to pass, that naturally just can not, is selfish and risks everyone and everything, including the mission, lives, and national security. EVERY female caught during desert storm, gave up information, and was brutally beaten and sexually assaulted, any person who thinks putting them in that situation, is seriously not thinking things through. Now back to the fee who can pass. If they can pass, can be useful and not a liability, I'm fine with females being there. I just feel they must pass the courses , without help and lowered standards. My grandmother was the last female member of my family to be in the military, while every Male in my family goes, or at least a minimum of one son per household. My grandmother worked and help crack the enigma machines during WW2. Anyone who joins the military should find what they do best and fill that role, it's not about one person, it's about the team, to be selfish enough to want to break safety and rules to further yourself is disgusting. Like my grandmother, every female and Male will find a place in the military, being on the frontlines or in special forces isn't for everyone, but protecting our brothers and sisters in the forces and keeping our nation safe should over ride all this stupid ass feelings movement happening. Russian forces and Chinese forces will not show women mercy, and that pretty much goes for all foriegn forces we may face. I wonder if these women think about this, and what happens of you survive a mission, only to be caught. What happens to the females is FAR worse then what happens to the males. We didnt get all our woman back from Iraq, it's not spoken of, but they were abused, beaten and trafficked.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle. According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
If a woman or any person can do every single requirement without exception or without lowering the standard, then l am all for it. I have 26 years in Federal law enforcement, l’ve worked with many women. I can count on one hand the ones that were capable of doing every aspect of the job. The rest were window dressing. When l was in the US Border Patrol most women couldn’t pull themselves over a vertical 5 foot wall. So the powers that be angled the wall to make it easier for them to get over. The Border Patrol academy and obstacle course is no where near as hard as S.E.A.L training, however, we had a 50% failure rate. Do not make exceptions.
Instead of saying "if she can pass, why Shouldn't she be in?" just argue the affirmative. Why SHOULD she be in and not him? You said yourself, men are stronger and better in this role. Fact. The end. So a unit full of men is at it's peak potential. Make an AFFIRMATIVE argument that one of those men should be replaced with a woman even if she "could" do it.
how much equip, does a seal carry on a mission, then if a buddy gets hurt and needs to be carried over the shoulder , how much does the avg seal weigh and carry his equipment plus the buddy is how much, can ANY woman even do that.. i dont know but i have read that the equipment that is carried is anywhere from 75 to 120 lbs, is ANY woman capable of carrying that much weight??? just asking
We had a gi jane in the royal marine commando training who was placed in sick bay, remedial due to stress fractures. That was in 2019,and she's still trying. Olympic rower as well. Gave 100% plus,but the constant pounding of running with weight takes it's toll.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle. According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@@Anonymous18817 You do not have the upper body strength for BUDS, 80% of males ring the bell. Sometimes whole classes wash out during hell week. However, there are MOSs where you will gain skills and experience. Don't let a recruiter BS you.
how can you train to prevent the injuries? this is what i want more than anything in the world. i have around 2 years to prepare and I've already started. how do you increase durability and resistance?
Same. We must find a way to strengthen what most females have as a natural weakness... Our bones, ligaments, tendons. Physically we are at that disadvantage is all. I have been pushing myself all of my life both mentally and physically. My career for the past 7 years is no exception! I believe where there is a will there is a way. Some woman one day Will do it... Of that I feel sure. It would be miraculous if it could be me or you... Or both! We have to weed out our weakness same as everyone. We have to play to our strengths. I personally feel having that different perspective (the innerworkings of the female mind) would be More than helpful in this field. I have always been the "strong silent type" anyway, and I am in love with everything the SEALs stand for! I believe the main battle is about the mind. The problem we're having is convincing everyone else... If people don't believe I say fine watch me. Really it's the struggle of being able to load-bear the same (it's really mostly for BUD/S training anyway though)... The thing is they may not want us females in there, hence why they are putting that road block of almost impossible standards for the weights to be hoisted on land. I hope and pray we can meet all standards and show the doubters. The ones who dream it often times are the ones who achieve it. Send some good prayers and energy this way and I am for you as well. Thanks!!
This old Soldier hates to say this, but the Rangers lowered standards to get females through Ranger School. The Seals won’t lower standards for them in BUDS.
Thanks for acknowledging that. We had someone point to the fact that there was a woman in Ranger school and we said the same thing about standards. We have a ton of respect for Rangers. Ranger school is no joke. We have friends who were Rangers.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle. According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@@Anonymous18817 This is going to sound crazy, but use a jump rope a lot in your training. Having feet with good, deep arches will help a lot. If heredity gave you flat feet, you will have a tough time bearing weight. Running up stadium steps will help, too.
There is an interview of Demi Moore on the Howard stern show here on TH-cam and Howard asked Demi how hard it was to train for playing that role in GI Jane and she even said it was brutal and she vomited on a number of occasions and they navy seals that trained her knew it wasn’t easy for her and said to her you can quit and she said I can’t, I have to do this if I’m playing this character, but she said it was one of the hardest movie roles she’s ever done and has a lot of respect for men that become Navy Seals.
Most reasonable take I’ve ever heard on this topic. All the guys saying "if they pass selection they’re allowed to be there" are just too lazy/afraid to actually spend time researching the topic and afraid of the backlash that comes from the inevitable conclusion.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle. According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@@Anonymous18817 BUD/S is more about mental training than physical (it’s still physically demanding for an average person, don’t think it’s easy) where the objective is to survive the program while being able to show discipline and focus as if you would in any other situation. The Navy SEALS are hardcore, they are made for efficient, well-oiled murder, and to be one you need physicality and mental at near-peak human. Unfortunately, there isn’t a high chance for you to be able to join the SEALS unless you were born exceptionally gifted, as the natural biological limits a woman has, is different than a man’s. Arguing against biology is pointless, a human won’t ever beat a silverback gorilla in arm wrestling without using some hardcore shit that should not be used otherwise.
Men are stronger and better at fighting. Fact. The end. So any combat unit, full of men, is already at it's peak potential. Instead of saying "if they can pass why SHOULDN'T they be in?" just make an affirmative argument. Give one reason that women, even if they "could" pass, SHOULD be in? How does that make the UNIT stronger than if it's a man in her place? The fact is, the military isn't about making individuals feel like they had a fair shot. I am 100% in favor of excluding women from even getting to try because the UNIT doesn't gain anything by taking her instead of him. Its not about YOU. It's the UNIT.
This applies to all combat arms though. They have the same additional injury rate, are medically discharged early, and collect disability. Ignoring anything else, like effectiveness, it's not financially viable.
I'm a male Physician. I really think that MOST of the Gender Performance differences are due to the fact that they have almost NO natural Testosterone. If they were allowed to take Anabolic Steroids (maybe in the Services-they CAN) this would Really narrow the gap. Female Bodybuilders are REAL Gorillas (still not quite as Buff as the Boys.) There are women who can bench 500 lbs. Again-that's shy of the Male record, but pretty Damn Impressive nonetheless. I don't see why they couldn't succeed as, say, Firefighters.
the G.I. Jane movie lost me when they said "most elite training on earth made up of the most experience operators who fail including Marine Recon, Army Ranger and Delta....I checked out there. BUDs is no question rough, but that's not at ALL how it works and nor do they pull from other branches. I think Delta is the only one who pulls from other branches.
Yes I agree.... But the truth is nothing is impossible. Respectfully I disagree. You're not God you can't call the shots on what's possible and what isn't.
Definitely agree. I graduated BUD/S 163...Hell Week 157, 1989. So yeah...I know what Brother Garrett here is talking about when it comes to injuries. But it goes beyond that in regards as to the WHY women should not be in the SF's. Women ARE very different, have different needs and body chemistry...and honestly, typically are not as physically strong. Our fellow Team Mates lives rely upon each member's ability to perform with no weak links. Here's a situation...imagine being on patrol and your lady operator is having her time of the month...and the enemy has dogs... They can smell that...and this could compromise the mission. ^^ Now that's just a few things, not to mention the fraternization that's inevitable...etc. Potentially a major distraction, in the very least. Or how about how men tend to be protective of women and may not be able to focus on what needs to be done when a woman comes under duress. Coming from a knowledgeable position...the vast bulk of our special forces feel this way...at least back while I served. Women are incredible and can bring a lot to an equation. They definitely can help in the military but when it comes to SF operations...as operators, being in the field is not their place. HOO-YAH & God Bless the Brotherhood.
Tbh im just of the opinion that the only thing that should matter is if you make it through training and everything, its not about everybody making it, its about giving everyone a chance
It sure never will. I don't like the idea of being humiliated with a slap across my face in front of hundreds of live audiences and millions of viewers
The other thing no one talks about and this applies not just to special forces but combat in general ( exceptions don't count) of heroine women. But it isn't in their DNA to sacrifice for men history proven that. Not sure if they will lay down their life for another female either.
Probably said it before but the only reason I disagree with this is because women have proven to be capable athletes and warriors, just not to the level of men. My example is the UFC, where the best women fighters are leagues ahead of the rest. The discrepancy suggests that the most motivated capable women on Earth are not the injury prone ones or the "broke a nail" types. The research example he used may be invalid just because it doesn't necessarily conclude women will get injured more doing EVERYTHING, maybe basketball injuries in women are just more common by themselves. You can't tell me you don't think someone like Amanda Nunes couldn't at least pass hell week. She's a physical specimen and unless she lies, she hasn't been known to get injured in training literally designed to hurt people.
Forgot to say also: I still believe that if any special forces operator past or present doesn't believe in lowering their standards, they shouldn't be lowered. Not for anyone or any reason.
We are big fans of the UFC. Way different comparison as the competition they are facing are fellow women. They looked at multiple sports in the study and tried to find one where the impact and movements were identical. Remember the stress on the body in basketball is not related to the competition but to the intensity of impact etc that the court provides. The stress in BUD/s is the same. It doesn't care who you are. You will break. Beyond just the question of whether a female can pass is cultural fit and the trust of teammates for life and death situations. That is something that is not as easily measured in a study.
@@theimpossiblelife I agree but I used that example to demonstrate what is, for me, the pinnacle of toughness and athleticism in women. If I'm understanding correctly the study about basketball wasn't men vs women in a game but men playing other men vs women playing other women, it's not a totally unfair comparison to UFC.
@@SamaelVR I promise you she lies about injuries. What would be the reason to highlight injuries so her opponents can exploit it? So many fighters have lied about injuries prior to fights because if they didn't it would tip off other fighters. I saw some women literally get shorter because of back problems from heavy rucksacks. I'm talking serious back and neck injuries that messed them up for life. Go check out the research done by the marines on the subject. It's pretty eye opening for people who have never been in the military and have no experience with the subject.
@@chudbo8751 You're right, that research is real. But for me there's no doubt many men have sacrificed just the same thing. There are women who are more built than guys. The SEAL's are different but for the record, many CAG guys have said that The Unit is never looking for the smartest, fastest, killingest or strongest guy, they're looking for the RIGHT guy. By that logic, not every role necessarily demands a physical specimen. But again, we're talking about some of the most fit women in the world who are arguably more tested than other athletes.
this is the same reason why there are men's sports and women's sports. I'm still ok to have quality women warfighters should they be qualified to take up this duty. but you must still be the best of the best no matter your gender. soldiering is not about some political notions of equality. it's about overcoming the enemy in life and death situation. there will be no referees present. put a woman on a SEAL team and she's a liability to the mission. I love you girls only there's no way around this. the chick characters in the movie "Aliens" is a kind of fun fantasy. Ripley and Vasquez can play on my team anytime 😀 in reality though, I think far less than even 1% of the best women can meet the standards reached by men to best meet SEAL team objectives. can you beat the guys to meet the standards? then ok if you're that determined. determination sure is an important quality. there's still always that part about how no matter how good you are, especially if you're good, you're going to distract the guys as a girl present. that's not so good for the mission either 🤔 just like in basketball I think there's a place for a women's special forces league. there are many examples in history how women contributed critically to war victories. it's a matter of deliberately ignoring politics to put the best soldier available in the position best suited to their abilities 😎🇺🇸
100%. This is not a damning verdict on women or meant to be a slight or negative at all. It's just the acknowledgement of a standard that doesn't change for the individual. There have been countless elite male athletes that played D1 college sports that fell short. Not being able to make it through BUD/s is not an insult to anyone. It's just a standard that doesn't move.
@@theimpossiblelife Well, that's the easy argument to make, the one that can't be reasonably argued with...but your feelings on this matter go deeper than that. If a few hyper elite women could physically become SEALs, you would still vote to keep them out because of other, non-physical reasons. I'd love to hear you talk about all of those reasons, as they're much more socially difficult to touch on.
The only way that I could see it working would be if it's an all-female combat unit. Something like that might be interesting to see happen. But I don't think that mixed gender combat units( like what they have in Israel)is a good idea.
@@JR-ju3kj Yes. But the core problem is women aren't suited for combat. Women can't tolerate cold, lack of sleep, lack of hygiene, physical stress, mental stress, stress in general like men can. The only places where women are regularly recruited are in places that don't have a necessary amount of man power available. So Israel and basically WW2 Soviet Union because they took such massive loss of life. And then there is the problem that a nation can recover from losing majority of breeding age males. A nation can't recover from losing majority of it's women. It's just a modern mess of this woke feminism that we have to pretend women can do what men can.
I disagree with you. Here is my reason. I've always known that the Japanese fire department in Japan for the Japanese people is different than the ones in NYC in the 70s. The Japanese always took pride in who they were a a people. They can't win in most of the Olympics even in Judo. Their own martial art. The Americans have beaten them most years. Without even trying. But does that mean the Japanese people are not allowed to have a fire dept or their own version of the navy seal? But they do have it. Facts is strength is all about what you're good at. In combat. The rules of strength can refocus on that are the true strengths of these chosen few. We know for a fact that the Japanese special forces just like the Japanese fire Dept use different equipment and procedures. Their view of solving the same problem is different but at the end of the day. The jobs can be done. I believe in a more inclusive Navy. I believe that the women's Navy seal is necessary and important to be made. They may not be the same. But in war as is in engineering solution to a rocket ship. Not all ships need to be alike to be powerful.
Based on all the effort people make trying to justify why this can't happen always means it will a some point in the future. One of my favorite Nelson Mandela quotes is "It always seems impossible until it's done.” That is the way it always happens. You have female Rangers and Green Berets. It is just a matter of time.
Go look at how the Rangers happened though. They changed the standards so the women could get through. We don't know the specifics of the Green Berets, but the SEALs will not change the standard for anyone. You meet the standard or you go away.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle. According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@@Anonymous18817You ask this same question in every thread. Here’s the harsh truth, if you go through BUDs you WILL fail. Why? It’s just biology. You can NOT do the same thing men can do. We’re NOT equal. Accept it. Move on. Now honestly I think women would fit better in spy roles. More intel, counterintelligence, and infiltration roles.
We are talking about Navy SEALs and not Joan of Arc. SEALs have a very clear standard. We can't speak for what the standards were at that point in history.
Women shouldn't be allowed anywhere near combat, SPEC OPS or conventional. This includes ships at sea (Navy & Coast Guard), they need to be all men! Space Force too! 🛸
Well even just in training way back when i was in we'd go on 10 mile road marches in full gear and none of the women finished with the main group "all men," they just couldn't keep up. i can go on but the reason they have mens standards and womens is because physically the women can't compete with the men.
It's a pretty simple to look at what testosterone production results in and which gender (there are only two) produces more testosterone. Somehow our world has tried to make this a complicated subject, but it is actually very simple with mountains of evidence to support it.
I always say this. If ever my country goes to war, we men do the fighting. Our women will stay behind and ensure that our children are cared for. They have to be strong enough to keep raising them, in case any of us do not come home. I want my wife to take care of all of our businesses and ensure our kids go to college while I do the fighting. The point is, men and women simply have different roles to fill even in war time. But just because women are not doing the actual fighting it never means their participation is not important.
If it happens one of 2 things happened. They lowered the standards, or it’s not a women from birth. I’m not a woman hatter, just a realist. I guess 3rd if it did happen there would be genetic Manipulation involved, but most likely then they would do it to a man and it would be out of reach again.
Yeah. It's not something that is pressing on women that are actually in the military as far as we can tell. If you watch other videos on this subject, they will say the same thing. This push comes from people "outside the arena".
I respect your opinion, and agree with some points-- but your point on the army lowering the standards for female rangers is false. Even the first candidates to pass, Kristen Griest, for example, helped rangers carry their load who couldn't carry it.
How dare you leave an objectively true comment in the TH-cams comment section, especially one that goes against the clearly stated narrative that we've all agreed to....I'm beginning your cancelation papers now.
Yahshua - you know Him as Jesus - was born to a virgin, turned water to wine, taught, healed the sick, raised the dead, casted out demons, walked on water, calmed the storm, and fed a crowd of thousands with a few fish and a few loaves of bread on two separate occasions, among many other things. He was killed on the cross as payment for the sins of all mankind, three days later He rose from the dead. Forty days later He ascended into heaven where He sits at the right hand of the Father. He is returning very soon, but before He does, Satan, the devil, is coming to pretend to be Jesus/God (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 and Revelation 2:10). Satan is an angel, and he will have certain supernatural powers with which to try to fool everyone. He will, for example, be able to make fire come down from heaven in the sight of men. He will only be on earth a short time before the real King of Kings, Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, returns. When the real Jesus comes we will all be transformed into our spiritual bodies at the same moment. Jesus came in the flesh to offer forgiveness of sins and eternal life to anyone who believes and calls on His precious name! if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:9 KJV Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper, There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat. But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor. When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me. For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always. For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial. Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her. - Matthew 26:6-13 KJV Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.,.,,,,. To anoint your self, the sick, or a building for spiritual protection: Get a small bottle of olive oil and pour off a small amount into a smaller vessel like a vial or baby food jar. Use the rest of the bottle for cooking. Ask the Lord to bless your vial of oil in Jesus name. Anoint yourself with the oil by placing a dab of oil on tip of finger and touch it to your forehead, and ask the Lord to bless you/heal you. To anoint your home or other building: place a dab of oil on your finger and anoint the door posts and order all negativity and evil out of the house, and order that nothing negative or evil can enter into your home including piggybacking on a person entering, order it to be so in the name of Jesus. Anoint all potential entrances to your home. To anoint the sick: place oil on tip of finger and touch it to the head of the sick and say a prayer of healing over them in Jesus name. See James Chapter 5:14-15. For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth. He loveth righteousness and judgment: the earth is full of the goodness of the LORD. Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
I respect your videos, your thoughts, and opinions. However, I think there are multiple very good arguments that can be made for why women can make it as well. By your logic, anyone who is injury prone shouldn't even try to be a SEAL. By this same logic, since women are the most likely sex to be injury prone, they shouldn't try to be SEALS especially. However, this argument has been used countless times throughout history for why women shouldn't play sports at all or do anything highly physically strenuous. I also notice that in another video you reference how David Goggins got injured so many times that he had to redo Hell Week 3-times. He, in my opinion, is someone who is injury prone. Should he have stopped knowing this? Yes statistically, due to movement, size of muscles, etc, women are more injury prone. However, being prone does not mean something will actually happen to every person. Also those who are involved in women's sports (coaches, trainers, support staff, ect) know the stats and take the necessary steps (strength exercises, movement evaluations, treatment) to try to prevent these things like anything else. If you have the ability and want something, you will do what is necessary to have it. Do your, prehab, rehab, and recovery regiment and get back out there. ANYONE and EVERYONE should know their body and where they are weak at physically and mentally. Just because you are prone and have to take extra steps that some other people don't, doesn't mean you throw in the towel or don't try. I would bet anything that there are plenty of women that could make it through (with regular standards). But is the NAVY and society ready to change and take that on? Is it truly that women can't do it or just that no one wants to see it. Just my two cents.
Your opinions are well thought out and thank you for bringing an intelligent viewpoint. The injuries cited were by the 3rd party as to why women wouldn't be able to make it. There is a lot more to it than that, but it's not something we wanted to express in this video. While Garrett said he doesn't think a woman will ever make it, that's all the opinion we want to share. The injury statistics were by the 3rd party carrying out the investigation. Just wanted to clarify.
Women can't withstand cold like men can. Women can't withstand lack of sleep like men. Women are much weaker. Women can't withstand stress like men. Stress breaks a woman but makes a man is a scientifically accurate statement as the neurons react differently between sexes. Women can't withstand unhygienic conditions. Women have periods which is a problem. Women aren't as driven to do hard things as they lack testosterone. High estrogen does pretty much the opposite. Makes you social and emotional. Men are biologically made to be warriors. Women aren't. And even after all of that having women in a unit just brings a lot of additional problems personnel wise. Combat is not the place for gender equality. Regardless of passing standards or not. You are playing with the lives of men. It's unacceptable.
MY two cents are : What is the objective in Seal selection? Some would say , ' To make indestructible men ' But if you step back from the controversies , isnt it to win , when confronted by an enemy? To have a small force of humans who can work in any environment using tactics based both on technology and experience in order to win?( or succeed-i.e. hostage rescue , counter terrorism , direct action , etc) Now , humans have limitations. Men in general , perhaps have less physical limitations than women. But(again just wondering) couldnt a push be made using technology to help level the playing field , between men and woman? Technology is already being used to help achieve these goals , which have been men in most of these special forces positions.
@@obo7707 There is no need to make adjustments to “level the playing field”. If anything, the level should be continuously increased to seek only the absolute best of the best.
@@obo7707 You worded this perfectly. It is a matter of want. Women are capable and willing. But what does the U.S. and the Navy want to see. With women comes a push for change in other areas that aren't just physical possibly. A breaking up of the "good ole boys" club if you will. People don't like change, especially not that kind.
No. That was the Officer training course. Not BUD/s. Check it out: soaa.org/first-female-navy-seal/#:~:text=about%20Navy%20SEALs!-,Has%20there%20ever%20been%20a%20female%20Navy%20SEAL%3F,Navy%20SEAL%20officer%20training%20course.
I love when he prefaces his opinion with the dickish "so sorry if you're upset...". That's like the woman who says "I tell it like it is, if you have a problem with that, that's on you" or the person who says "I'm just really honest". What all of these people are actually saying is "I understand that I can say the exact same thing I'm about to say in a far more mature & caring manner, but I'm a dick, so I'm going to purposely attempt to hurt people while simultaneously elevating myself, because I'm an immature man-baby with sociopathic tendencies." Being honest does not equal being a dick, that's bad math.
I can understand why some people are honest in a rude way cuz insecure people that can't handle the truth are really annoying and feminist women are extremely insecure when they could just embrace the sex they were born with and except the fact that men are physically superior and women have they're own strengths that women do better than men at. What women need to understand is that being a woman does not make them inferior. Men and women are good at different things. A lot of women don't realize that the reason why women are always trying to prove themselves is cuz they secretly have a inferiority complex. Being strong and tough like a man isn't everything. You can have brawn but no brain's.
Hurt feelings aren't a bad thing. It's what the person decides to do with those hurt feelings that makes all the difference. What we need more of, generally speaking, is resiliency and ownership. Ownership means focusing your energy and efforts on the things you can control and not allowing the uncontrollables to disturb you. What do you actually control? Only these 3 things. Your thoughts. Your attitudes. Your actions. THAT'S IT! Realize this and you will be on the path to freedom. "No man is free who is not master of himself." - Epictetus
No females have made it through BUDS. There has been 1 female who made it through SWCC (Special Warfare Combatant-Craft Crewman) selection. SWCC is tough, but it's not BUDS.
There's nothing ridiculous about it. There is a standard that doesn't change based on the individual. People don't like that but it's the same for everyone. You either meet the standard or go away.
this is a dumb argument. All you have to do is set a standard. If a woman can pass or meet the standard, she can continue, just like a man. Most men can't make the seal teams. Most women can't make the seal teams. Some men can make the seal teams. If some women can make the seal teams they should be afforded the opportunity to try. Otherwise, men should not be allowed to try out for the seal teams because a lot get injured and most can't make it anyway.
Women have 'entirely' completed the highest tasks! And women were getting more injured in sports, because on the whole women don't do sports as much as men! This chap narrating has 'delusions' as to his sex.
We don't know you, but it sounds like you're speaking theoretically rather than from experience. Garrett has completed some of the most strenuous and difficult military training in the world. If you have some comparable experience that gives you insight into your view, please share it. But don't tout your opinion as having weight or being truth when you provide zero back up for it.
Because men cave when a women is being tortured ... when another man is tortured during capture . It's his duty to endure, when a women is captured its his response to protect her .. women weaken men in torture and interrogation environments. We feel pity for them we don't feel for our own gender..
Well it's kind of like they're sure they've give us drugs through the years to fight well like Vietnam so why wouldn't it be okay to give us a Little Nookie 😳
Totally agree with Garrett..Did a tour in Afghanistan. We had two females for a FET (Female Engagement Team) team. We struggled to integrate them into a regular light infantry platoon. We did many dismounted patrols walking miles at high altitude with close to hundred pounds of gear. They stopped going on missions because they became a liability and this is regular Army not SF/Seals. I have nothing but love for these women. They are studs, they busted their asses and they owned their limitations.
Well said.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted.
According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle.
According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@Anon000 I think you might be the same person I've replied to before but a different profile. I've laid out the beginning ways for you to begin increasing ligament, tendon, and bone density. It's a multi year process.
There's a Ranger podcast here where a retired Ranger goes on a soapbox about how some women are way tougher than most men. It happens but it's very rare.
The hardest part of buds isn’t the physical exercise. It’s the battle going on in you’re own mind.
The truth needs to be said. Thanks for the frankness of your response and insights. My opinion of the S.E.A.L teams are that they are the best of the best. Its not worth polluting the standards to make a few feel special.
You will either meet the standard or go away. That's what instructors said in BUD/s all the time.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted.
According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle.
According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
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@@Anonymous18817im no expert, but I would saying youd have a very difficult time passing. Not to deter you, youve done some of the research. If your that serious Id suggest looking at weight training, calcium supplements, etc as a means of increasing bone density. Might be worth talking to a doctor about things you can do to increase bone density.
If you're willing to break your legs in training then give er. But I would also say talk to some seals about whether theyd want you on the team. If women are failing out due to breaking bones....isnt that going to make you a liability in deployment?
38 year old mother of 2 passing Ranger School? 100% bull shit.
What is bullshit? I agree with what this man said. A woman will never make it through seal training. That is just a fact.
she did pass, with all kinds of help and start over and not doing what the men had to do... so anyone can pass if you do what captain kirk did in star trek and reprogram the game so you cant lose
@@highlanderthegreat The fact that 80% of males fail speaks volumes.
@@boomerang6130 lololol but most women dont like to hear facts they want to hear platitudes
Ranger school doesn't mean ranger tab. You should probably ask if they're passing to get ranger tab or scroll.
Cause the likelihood it's the scroll (75th Ranger Reg) is going to be significantly lower than that of men's stats
Spot on. The intense training is also to ensure they do not break easy cos in the field particularly to their situation you can be on your own. I was RM we started with 65 ended up with 15 originals. Importantly also it is a mental health check to be beasted and accept it. So fitness over body structure multiplied by mental strength.
If women's body composition was as suited or better for combat than a man's then we would have been using them for exactly that since the dawn of war.
I see a flaw in that logic...we under utilized non-white men in war for a very long time in this great country. If women were about equal in physical ability to men, which they of course are not, Garrett here would still be arguing against them entering into the SEALs sanctum because of the other key differences between men & women that he'd cite, & he says as much in this short clip.
Add women in men’s basketball it would even make female injuries even worse.
you don't get injured sitting on the bench
We rarely share opinions on our podcast, but this one has a mix of the opinion of an actual SEAL plus the mountains of research that was done. It goes against the narrative we hear a lot but that is because people fail to recognize their strengths and operate from a place of insecurity. There are many things that women do that men cannot and vice versa. Celebrating our strengths and developing them means everyone wins. It's up to us to do that.
I absolutely believe women have a place in military, but with that said, if they can't physically do what's needed, they should understand and allow the people who are the best to do the job. One weak link in the chain, dangerous missions turn to suicide missions.
100%. Women do have a place in the military and as you said, there is a standard that is based on what needs to be done. Meet the standard for whatever job you do. It's really that simple. Well said on your part.
In this situation its not who can simply do the job. You can have every single box checked at the top of the sheet and still be drummed out of special forces. If you cannot be trusted or not a team player you are gone. Personally I feel a woman would cause to many issues in these small communities.
110%, someone has to cook.
@@ironpig701 Trust me , I understand what your saying, most likely more then most. What I will say, I don't care what sex the person doing sweeps or going on detail is, what I do care about is abilities and trust levels.
Every member of a team knows what the person next to them is capable of. To know you have a weak link would cause the rest of them team to have to work harder and deal with extreme risks, both to protect themselves and each other.
I have known women who could pass the special forces trials. With that said, it's not an average female by a long shot. 99.999 percent of women except this, as it would be extremely dangerous for them, and increase the risk for their brothers in arms. To ask to lower standards to allow a person to pass, that naturally just can not, is selfish and risks everyone and everything, including the mission, lives, and national security. EVERY female caught during desert storm, gave up information, and was brutally beaten and sexually assaulted, any person who thinks putting them in that situation, is seriously not thinking things through.
Now back to the fee who can pass. If they can pass, can be useful and not a liability, I'm fine with females being there. I just feel they must pass the courses , without help and lowered standards.
My grandmother was the last female member of my family to be in the military, while every Male in my family goes, or at least a minimum of one son per household. My grandmother worked and help crack the enigma machines during WW2. Anyone who joins the military should find what they do best and fill that role, it's not about one person, it's about the team, to be selfish enough to want to break safety and rules to further yourself is disgusting. Like my grandmother, every female and Male will find a place in the military, being on the frontlines or in special forces isn't for everyone, but protecting our brothers and sisters in the forces and keeping our nation safe should over ride all this stupid ass feelings movement happening.
Russian forces and Chinese forces will not show women mercy, and that pretty much goes for all foriegn forces we may face. I wonder if these women think about this, and what happens of you survive a mission, only to be caught. What happens to the females is FAR worse then what happens to the males. We didnt get all our woman back from Iraq, it's not spoken of, but they were abused, beaten and trafficked.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted.
According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle.
According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
If a woman or any person can do every single requirement without exception or without lowering the standard, then l am all for it. I have 26 years in Federal law enforcement, l’ve worked with many women. I can count on one hand the ones that were capable of doing every aspect of the job. The rest were window dressing. When l was in the US Border Patrol most women couldn’t pull themselves over a vertical 5 foot wall. So the powers that be angled the wall to make it easier for them to get over. The Border Patrol academy and obstacle course is no where near as hard as S.E.A.L training, however, we had a 50% failure rate. Do not make exceptions.
Instead of saying "if she can pass, why Shouldn't she be in?" just argue the affirmative. Why SHOULD she be in and not him? You said yourself, men are stronger and better in this role. Fact. The end. So a unit full of men is at it's peak potential. Make an AFFIRMATIVE argument that one of those men should be replaced with a woman even if she "could" do it.
how much equip, does a seal carry on a mission, then if a buddy gets hurt and needs to be carried over the shoulder , how much does the avg seal weigh and carry his equipment plus the buddy is how much, can ANY woman even do that.. i dont know but i have read that the equipment that is carried is anywhere from 75 to 120 lbs, is ANY woman capable of carrying that much weight??? just asking
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Kepp Will's wife's name out yo' MOTHAFUCKIN' MOUTH!!!
Keep our wives name out of your mouth!
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@@Anonymous18817Start by making me dinner....
We had a gi jane in the royal marine commando training who was placed in sick bay, remedial due to stress fractures.
That was in 2019,and she's still trying.
Olympic rower as well.
Gave 100% plus,but the constant pounding of running with weight takes it's toll.
As a former 11B, my body locks up tight in cold water, so no SF for me.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted.
According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle.
According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@@Anonymous18817 You do not have the upper body strength for BUDS, 80% of males ring the bell. Sometimes whole classes wash out during hell week. However, there are MOSs where you will gain skills and experience. Don't let a recruiter BS you.
@@Anonymous18817heyyy😮!!!
Can you answer me?
@@whoiam2529 Hello?
how can you train to prevent the injuries? this is what i want more than anything in the world. i have around 2 years to prepare and I've already started. how do you increase durability and resistance?
Same. We must find a way to strengthen what most females have as a natural weakness... Our bones, ligaments, tendons. Physically we are at that disadvantage is all. I have been pushing myself all of my life both mentally and physically. My career for the past 7 years is no exception! I believe where there is a will there is a way. Some woman one day Will do it... Of that I feel sure. It would be miraculous if it could be me or you... Or both! We have to weed out our weakness same as everyone. We have to play to our strengths. I personally feel having that different perspective (the innerworkings of the female mind) would be More than helpful in this field. I have always been the "strong silent type" anyway, and I am in love with everything the SEALs stand for! I believe the main battle is about the mind. The problem we're having is convincing everyone else... If people don't believe I say fine watch me. Really it's the struggle of being able to load-bear the same (it's really mostly for BUD/S training anyway though)... The thing is they may not want us females in there, hence why they are putting that road block of almost impossible standards for the weights to be hoisted on land. I hope and pray we can meet all standards and show the doubters. The ones who dream it often times are the ones who achieve it. Send some good prayers and energy this way and I am for you as well. Thanks!!
This old Soldier hates to say this, but the Rangers lowered standards to get females through Ranger School. The Seals won’t lower standards for them in BUDS.
Thanks for acknowledging that. We had someone point to the fact that there was a woman in Ranger school and we said the same thing about standards. We have a ton of respect for Rangers. Ranger school is no joke. We have friends who were Rangers.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted.
According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle.
According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@@Anonymous18817 This is going to sound crazy, but use a jump rope a lot in your training. Having feet with good, deep arches will help a lot. If heredity gave you flat feet, you will have a tough time bearing weight. Running up stadium steps will help, too.
@@AmericanFlyOnTheWall don’t lie to her. The brutal truth is what she deserves. She won’t make it past one log pt session.
@@theotherside1159 Odds are definitely against her. She would have to be one in a million.
There is an interview of Demi Moore on the Howard stern show here on TH-cam and Howard asked Demi how hard it was to train for playing that role in GI Jane and she even said it was brutal and she vomited on a number of occasions and they navy seals that trained her knew it wasn’t easy for her and said to her you can quit and she said I can’t, I have to do this if I’m playing this character, but she said it was one of the hardest movie roles she’s ever done and has a lot of respect for men that become Navy Seals.
Most reasonable take I’ve ever heard on this topic. All the guys saying "if they pass selection they’re allowed to be there" are just too lazy/afraid to actually spend time researching the topic and afraid of the backlash that comes from the inevitable conclusion.
Thank you.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted.
According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle.
According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
@@Anonymous18817 BUD/S is more about mental training than physical (it’s still physically demanding for an average person, don’t think it’s easy) where the objective is to survive the program while being able to show discipline and focus as if you would in any other situation. The Navy SEALS are hardcore, they are made for efficient, well-oiled murder, and to be one you need physicality and mental at near-peak human. Unfortunately, there isn’t a high chance for you to be able to join the SEALS unless you were born exceptionally gifted, as the natural biological limits a woman has, is different than a man’s. Arguing against biology is pointless, a human won’t ever beat a silverback gorilla in arm wrestling without using some hardcore shit that should not be used otherwise.
@@Anonymous18817 Did you become a seal?
Men are stronger and better at fighting. Fact. The end. So any combat unit, full of men, is already at it's peak potential. Instead of saying "if they can pass why SHOULDN'T they be in?" just make an affirmative argument. Give one reason that women, even if they "could" pass, SHOULD be in? How does that make the UNIT stronger than if it's a man in her place? The fact is, the military isn't about making individuals feel like they had a fair shot. I am 100% in favor of excluding women from even getting to try because the UNIT doesn't gain anything by taking her instead of him. Its not about YOU. It's the UNIT.
This applies to all combat arms though. They have the same additional injury rate, are medically discharged early, and collect disability. Ignoring anything else, like effectiveness, it's not financially viable.
I'm a male Physician. I really think that MOST of the Gender Performance differences are due to the fact that they have almost NO natural Testosterone. If they were allowed to take Anabolic Steroids (maybe in the Services-they CAN) this would Really narrow the gap.
Female Bodybuilders are REAL Gorillas (still not quite as Buff as the Boys.)
There are women who can bench 500 lbs. Again-that's shy of the Male record, but pretty Damn Impressive nonetheless. I don't see why they couldn't succeed as, say, Firefighters.
the G.I. Jane movie lost me when they said "most elite training on earth made up of the most experience operators who fail including Marine Recon, Army Ranger and Delta....I checked out there. BUDs is no question rough, but that's not at ALL how it works and nor do they pull from other branches. I think Delta is the only one who pulls from other branches.
The truth will set you free.
Yes I agree.... But the truth is nothing is impossible. Respectfully I disagree. You're not God you can't call the shots on what's possible and what isn't.
Definitely agree.
I graduated BUD/S 163...Hell Week 157, 1989.
So yeah...I know what Brother Garrett here is talking about when it comes to injuries.
But it goes beyond that in regards as to the WHY women should not be in the SF's.
Women ARE very different, have different needs and body chemistry...and honestly, typically are not as physically strong.
Our fellow Team Mates lives rely upon each member's ability to perform with no weak links.
Here's a situation...imagine being on patrol and your lady operator is having her time of the month...and the enemy has dogs...
They can smell that...and this could compromise the mission.
^^ Now that's just a few things, not to mention the fraternization that's inevitable...etc.
Potentially a major distraction, in the very least.
Or how about how men tend to be protective of women and may not be able to focus on what needs to be done when a woman comes under duress.
Coming from a knowledgeable position...the vast bulk of our special forces feel this way...at least back while I served.
Women are incredible and can bring a lot to an equation.
They definitely can help in the military but when it comes to SF operations...as operators, being in the field is not their place.
HOO-YAH & God Bless the Brotherhood.
no you didnt. Stop lying your not a seal . Someone get Don Shipley on this idiot
You know what the stats you are giving n your honest opinion makes sense
I was in the 32nd Combat Comm when that movie came out. We laughed and laughed...
Tbh im just of the opinion that the only thing that should matter is if you make it through training and everything, its not about everybody making it, its about giving everyone a chance
Before we consider this, let us first abolish mens and womens events in sports.
It sure never will. I don't like the idea of being humiliated with a slap across my face in front of hundreds of live audiences and millions of viewers
What do you mean?
Why are people commenting about Jada Pinkett on this topic?
Congrats for keeping it real and speaking the thruth
We don't back down on sharing our thoughts.
it could totally happen. just keep softening the physical requirements like the rangers did.
Meet the standard or go away. They said it in BUD/s every day. The standard is there for a reason.
@@theimpossiblelife look who runs our nation. the same people you can't speak bad of. the same with dual citizenship.
@@theimpossiblelife Until DEI and politicians.
The other thing no one talks about and this applies not just to special forces but combat in general ( exceptions don't count) of heroine women. But it isn't in their DNA to sacrifice for men history proven that. Not sure if they will lay down their life for another female either.
As a cold war Air Force veteran why would they want to be a SEAL when they could be a Navy F- 18 pilot
Fair point. 😀
Probably said it before but the only reason I disagree with this is because women have proven to be capable athletes and warriors, just not to the level of men. My example is the UFC, where the best women fighters are leagues ahead of the rest. The discrepancy suggests that the most motivated capable women on Earth are not the injury prone ones or the "broke a nail" types.
The research example he used may be invalid just because it doesn't necessarily conclude women will get injured more doing EVERYTHING, maybe basketball injuries in women are just more common by themselves. You can't tell me you don't think someone like Amanda Nunes couldn't at least pass hell week. She's a physical specimen and unless she lies, she hasn't been known to get injured in training literally designed to hurt people.
Forgot to say also: I still believe that if any special forces operator past or present doesn't believe in lowering their standards, they shouldn't be lowered. Not for anyone or any reason.
We are big fans of the UFC. Way different comparison as the competition they are facing are fellow women. They looked at multiple sports in the study and tried to find one where the impact and movements were identical. Remember the stress on the body in basketball is not related to the competition but to the intensity of impact etc that the court provides. The stress in BUD/s is the same. It doesn't care who you are. You will break. Beyond just the question of whether a female can pass is cultural fit and the trust of teammates for life and death situations. That is something that is not as easily measured in a study.
@@theimpossiblelife I agree but I used that example to demonstrate what is, for me, the pinnacle of toughness and athleticism in women. If I'm understanding correctly the study about basketball wasn't men vs women in a game but men playing other men vs women playing other women, it's not a totally unfair comparison to UFC.
@@SamaelVR I promise you she lies about injuries. What would be the reason to highlight injuries so her opponents can exploit it? So many fighters have lied about injuries prior to fights because if they didn't it would tip off other fighters. I saw some women literally get shorter because of back problems from heavy rucksacks. I'm talking serious back and neck injuries that messed them up for life. Go check out the research done by the marines on the subject. It's pretty eye opening for people who have never been in the military and have no experience with the subject.
@@chudbo8751 You're right, that research is real. But for me there's no doubt many men have sacrificed just the same thing. There are women who are more built than guys. The SEAL's are different but for the record, many CAG guys have said that The Unit is never looking for the smartest, fastest, killingest or strongest guy, they're looking for the RIGHT guy. By that logic, not every role necessarily demands a physical specimen. But again, we're talking about some of the most fit women in the world who are arguably more tested than other athletes.
this is the same reason why there are men's sports and women's sports. I'm still ok to have quality women warfighters should they be qualified to take up this duty. but you must still be the best of the best no matter your gender. soldiering is not about some political notions of equality. it's about overcoming the enemy in life and death situation. there will be no referees present. put a woman on a SEAL team and she's a liability to the mission. I love you girls only there's no way around this. the chick characters in the movie "Aliens" is a kind of fun fantasy. Ripley and Vasquez can play on my team anytime 😀
in reality though, I think far less than even 1% of the best women can meet the standards reached by men to best meet SEAL team objectives. can you beat the guys to meet the standards? then ok if you're that determined. determination sure is an important quality. there's still always that part about how no matter how good you are, especially if you're good, you're going to distract the guys as a girl present. that's not so good for the mission either 🤔
just like in basketball I think there's a place for a women's special forces league. there are many examples in history how women contributed critically to war victories. it's a matter of deliberately ignoring politics to put the best soldier available in the position best suited to their abilities 😎🇺🇸
100%. This is not a damning verdict on women or meant to be a slight or negative at all. It's just the acknowledgement of a standard that doesn't change for the individual. There have been countless elite male athletes that played D1 college sports that fell short. Not being able to make it through BUD/s is not an insult to anyone. It's just a standard that doesn't move.
@@theimpossiblelife Well, that's the easy argument to make, the one that can't be reasonably argued with...but your feelings on this matter go deeper than that. If a few hyper elite women could physically become SEALs, you would still vote to keep them out because of other, non-physical reasons. I'd love to hear you talk about all of those reasons, as they're much more socially difficult to touch on.
I'm all for gender equality if they are EQUAL.
But, the fact is the female body is not equal to the male body.
Women just don't belong in combat units.
The only way that I could see it working would be if it's an all-female combat unit. Something like that might be interesting to see happen. But I don't think that mixed gender combat units( like what they have in Israel)is a good idea.
@@JR-ju3kj Yes. But the core problem is women aren't suited for combat. Women can't tolerate cold, lack of sleep, lack of hygiene, physical stress, mental stress, stress in general like men can.
The only places where women are regularly recruited are in places that don't have a necessary amount of man power available. So Israel and basically WW2 Soviet Union because they took such massive loss of life.
And then there is the problem that a nation can recover from losing majority of breeding age males. A nation can't recover from losing majority of it's women.
It's just a modern mess of this woke feminism that we have to pretend women can do what men can.
I disagree with you. Here is my reason.
I've always known that the Japanese fire department in Japan for the Japanese people is different than the ones in NYC in the 70s.
The Japanese always took pride in who they were a a people.
They can't win in most of the Olympics even in Judo. Their own martial art.
The Americans have beaten them most years. Without even trying. But does that mean the Japanese people are not allowed to have a fire dept or their own version of the navy seal?
But they do have it. Facts is strength is all about what you're good at. In combat.
The rules of strength can refocus on that are the true strengths of these chosen few.
We know for a fact that the Japanese special forces just like the Japanese fire Dept use different equipment and procedures.
Their view of solving the same problem is different but at the end of the day.
The jobs can be done.
I believe in a more inclusive Navy.
I believe that the women's Navy seal is necessary and important to be made.
They may not be the same.
But in war as is in engineering solution to a rocket ship.
Not all ships need to be alike to be powerful.
Based on all the effort people make trying to justify why this can't happen always means it will a some point in the future. One of my favorite Nelson Mandela quotes is "It always seems impossible until it's done.” That is the way it always happens. You have female Rangers and Green Berets. It is just a matter of time.
Go look at how the Rangers happened though. They changed the standards so the women could get through. We don't know the specifics of the Green Berets, but the SEALs will not change the standard for anyone. You meet the standard or you go away.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. How should a woman prepare for BUD/S? How are women treated in BUD/S? Do you have any advice for preparation? I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted.
According to what some BUD/S dropouts told me, one female SEAL candidate broke her legs in Basic Orientation (BO) which is the first two weeks of BUD/S, another female SEAL candidate broke her legs in BUD/S Prep and a third female SEAL candidate got rolled back in BO for stress fractures. None of them made it. Evan Eichler told me that one of the women he trained was medically dropped from BUD/S because she broke her ankle.
According to the SEALSWCC Scout Team, most female SEAL candidates struggle with load bearing and just don’t have enough durability. Women have weaker bones and tendons than men, studies have shown that women develop stress fractures 3x more often than men. Do you have any advice for becoming more durable?
still waiting for that girl NFL player. lets see that happen first before we put people's live's on the line during combat.
@@Anonymous18817You ask this same question in every thread. Here’s the harsh truth, if you go through BUDs you WILL fail. Why? It’s just biology. You can NOT do the same thing men can do. We’re NOT equal. Accept it. Move on. Now honestly I think women would fit better in spy roles. More intel, counterintelligence, and infiltration roles.
Yes , but those WNBA players didn't play against men, ALL SEALS DO, play women IN the NBA and see thier injuries, through the roof
It’ll never happen because there’s only ONE STANDARD and that’s the way EVERYTHING should be.
Facts why would a woman even think she’s physically and emotionally capable of being a seal
i am traiing to become a navy seal.
It will not happen because of Jada Pinky
It’s OK
It’s OK men and women are different…
God made them that way
Lets Stop fucking up His plan…
G.I. Jane is based on Joan of Arc who led a bunch of dudes like you guys into victory against the Brits.
So yeah, it can happen.
God bless Mercia 🇲🇾 !
We are talking about Navy SEALs and not Joan of Arc. SEALs have a very clear standard. We can't speak for what the standards were at that point in history.
Virtually no men could qualify - even if it superb physical condition.
Women shouldn't be allowed anywhere near combat, SPEC OPS or conventional. This includes ships at sea (Navy & Coast Guard), they need to be all men! Space Force too! 🛸
Well even just in training way back when i was in we'd go on 10 mile road marches in full gear and none of the women finished with the main group "all men," they just couldn't keep up. i can go on but the reason they have mens standards and womens is because physically the women can't compete with the men.
It's a pretty simple to look at what testosterone production results in and which gender (there are only two) produces more testosterone. Somehow our world has tried to make this a complicated subject, but it is actually very simple with mountains of evidence to support it.
I always say this. If ever my country goes to war, we men do the fighting. Our women will stay behind and ensure that our children are cared for. They have to be strong enough to keep raising them, in case any of us do not come home. I want my wife to take care of all of our businesses and ensure our kids go to college while I do the fighting. The point is, men and women simply have different roles to fill even in war time. But just because women are not doing the actual fighting it never means their participation is not important.
I commend you for not replying for the reason you gave. Tip my hat to you
What would be the purpose of a female SEAL? Seriously, what’s the point of the argument?
Agreed
1st Women completes navy seals training so is it much different that a women won’t make it in rangers school?
Funny how no one is addressing the fact that a woman completed seals training two years ago.
Funny who's drama are you crushing? You must be really powerful then
We have no idea what your comment is referring to
No female SEALs, since 2016 opening.
Meet the standard or go away. We heard it all the time in BUD/s. Standards don't change.
It already happened apparently
No it didn't. That was SWCC and the media likes to tout it. Don't believe the headlines.
If it happens one of 2 things happened. They lowered the standards, or it’s not a women from birth. I’m not a woman hatter, just a realist. I guess 3rd if it did happen there would be genetic Manipulation involved, but most likely then they would do it to a man and it would be out of reach again.
Yeah. It's not something that is pressing on women that are actually in the military as far as we can tell. If you watch other videos on this subject, they will say the same thing. This push comes from people "outside the arena".
I respect your opinion, and agree with some points-- but your point on the army lowering the standards for female rangers is false. Even the first candidates to pass, Kristen Griest, for example, helped rangers carry their load who couldn't carry it.
How dare you leave an objectively true comment in the TH-cams comment section, especially one that goes against the clearly stated narrative that we've all agreed to....I'm beginning your cancelation papers now.
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I respect your videos, your thoughts, and opinions. However, I think there are multiple very good arguments that can be made for why women can make it as well. By your logic, anyone who is injury prone shouldn't even try to be a SEAL. By this same logic, since women are the most likely sex to be injury prone, they shouldn't try to be SEALS especially. However, this argument has been used countless times throughout history for why women shouldn't play sports at all or do anything highly physically strenuous. I also notice that in another video you reference how David Goggins got injured so many times that he had to redo Hell Week 3-times. He, in my opinion, is someone who is injury prone. Should he have stopped knowing this? Yes statistically, due to movement, size of muscles, etc, women are more injury prone. However, being prone does not mean something will actually happen to every person. Also those who are involved in women's sports (coaches, trainers, support staff, ect) know the stats and take the necessary steps (strength exercises, movement evaluations, treatment) to try to prevent these things like anything else. If you have the ability and want something, you will do what is necessary to have it. Do your, prehab, rehab, and recovery regiment and get back out there. ANYONE and EVERYONE should know their body and where they are weak at physically and mentally. Just because you are prone and have to take extra steps that some other people don't, doesn't mean you throw in the towel or don't try. I would bet anything that there are plenty of women that could make it through (with regular standards). But is the NAVY and society ready to change and take that on? Is it truly that women can't do it or just that no one wants to see it. Just my two cents.
Your opinions are well thought out and thank you for bringing an intelligent viewpoint. The injuries cited were by the 3rd party as to why women wouldn't be able to make it. There is a lot more to it than that, but it's not something we wanted to express in this video. While Garrett said he doesn't think a woman will ever make it, that's all the opinion we want to share. The injury statistics were by the 3rd party carrying out the investigation. Just wanted to clarify.
Women can't withstand cold like men can. Women can't withstand lack of sleep like men. Women are much weaker. Women can't withstand stress like men. Stress breaks a woman but makes a man is a scientifically accurate statement as the neurons react differently between sexes. Women can't withstand unhygienic conditions. Women have periods which is a problem. Women aren't as driven to do hard things as they lack testosterone. High estrogen does pretty much the opposite. Makes you social and emotional. Men are biologically made to be warriors. Women aren't.
And even after all of that having women in a unit just brings a lot of additional problems personnel wise.
Combat is not the place for gender equality. Regardless of passing standards or not. You are playing with the lives of men. It's unacceptable.
MY two cents are :
What is the objective in Seal selection? Some would say , ' To make indestructible men '
But if you step back from the controversies , isnt it to win , when confronted by an enemy? To have a small force of humans who can work in any environment using tactics based both on technology and experience in order to win?( or succeed-i.e. hostage rescue , counter terrorism , direct action , etc) Now , humans have limitations. Men in general , perhaps have less physical limitations than women. But(again just wondering) couldnt a push be made using technology to help level the playing field , between men and woman? Technology is already being used to help achieve these goals , which have been men in most of these special forces positions.
@@obo7707 There is no need to make adjustments to “level the playing field”. If anything, the level should be continuously increased to seek only the absolute best of the best.
@@obo7707 You worded this perfectly. It is a matter of want. Women are capable and willing. But what does the U.S. and the Navy want to see. With women comes a push for change in other areas that aren't just physical possibly. A breaking up of the "good ole boys" club if you will. People don't like change, especially not that kind.
Men have no business giving birth just like women have no business being special operators. 😂
Wrong. There is already a women in the NSeals but it is TS.
Not the same thing.
A female just graduated from seal training two years ago
No. That was the Officer training course. Not BUD/s. Check it out:
soaa.org/first-female-navy-seal/#:~:text=about%20Navy%20SEALs!-,Has%20there%20ever%20been%20a%20female%20Navy%20SEAL%3F,Navy%20SEAL%20officer%20training%20course.
no female should be in a command role dealing with any kind of combat , she just could not handle it....
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I love when he prefaces his opinion with the dickish "so sorry if you're upset...". That's like the woman who says "I tell it like it is, if you have a problem with that, that's on you" or the person who says "I'm just really honest". What all of these people are actually saying is "I understand that I can say the exact same thing I'm about to say in a far more mature & caring manner, but I'm a dick, so I'm going to purposely attempt to hurt people while simultaneously elevating myself, because I'm an immature man-baby with sociopathic tendencies." Being honest does not equal being a dick, that's bad math.
I can understand why some people are honest in a rude way cuz insecure people that can't handle the truth are really annoying and feminist women are extremely insecure when they could just embrace the sex they were born with and except the fact that men are physically superior and women have they're own strengths that women do better than men at. What women need to understand is that being a woman does not make them inferior. Men and women are good at different things. A lot of women don't realize that the reason why women are always trying to prove themselves is cuz they secretly have a inferiority complex. Being strong and tough like a man isn't everything. You can have brawn but no brain's.
Hurt feelings aren't a bad thing. It's what the person decides to do with those hurt feelings that makes all the difference.
What we need more of, generally speaking, is resiliency and ownership. Ownership means focusing your energy and efforts on the things you can control and not allowing the uncontrollables to disturb you. What do you actually control? Only these 3 things. Your thoughts. Your attitudes. Your actions. THAT'S IT!
Realize this and you will be on the path to freedom.
"No man is free who is not master of himself." - Epictetus
I don't think even 1% are fit for the seals, let alone waaahmen lol
Statistics would back you up.
Basketball is the most injurious sport, it's ridiculous.
there is though one female SEAL or at least have completed the training. But just one!
No females have made it through BUDS. There has been 1 female who made it through SWCC (Special Warfare Combatant-Craft Crewman) selection. SWCC is tough, but it's not BUDS.
@@rockroll7649 Thank you for clearing that up!
There's nothing ridiculous about it. There is a standard that doesn't change based on the individual. People don't like that but it's the same for everyone. You either meet the standard or go away.
this is a dumb argument. All you have to do is set a standard. If a woman can pass or meet the standard, she can continue, just like a man. Most men can't make the seal teams. Most women can't make the seal teams. Some men can make the seal teams. If some women can make the seal teams they should be afforded the opportunity to try.
Otherwise, men should not be allowed to try out for the seal teams because a lot get injured and most can't make it anyway.
There’s really no need or requirement to have a female SEAL. Why not leave the SEAL’s alone to do their thing?
No one has stopped a women from trying to make it. They just haven't been able to.
@@theimpossiblelife
Looks like a woman already did make it. th-cam.com/video/PnJS7LR4GE0/w-d-xo.html
@@Anonymous18817lol you are awesome
They will lower the bar
They will not
Women have 'entirely' completed the highest tasks!
And women were getting more injured in sports, because on the whole women don't do sports as much as men!
This chap narrating has 'delusions' as to his sex.
We don't know you, but it sounds like you're speaking theoretically rather than from experience. Garrett has completed some of the most strenuous and difficult military training in the world. If you have some comparable experience that gives you insight into your view, please share it. But don't tout your opinion as having weight or being truth when you provide zero back up for it.
It's literally a women that just became a Navey seal
Who?
They haven't revealed her name yet
Crewman are not the same as SEALs.
@@theimpossiblelife no she is actually seal she the only one though the other 3 didn't make it
Because men cave when a women is being tortured ... when another man is tortured during capture . It's his duty to endure, when a women is captured its his response to protect her .. women weaken men in torture and interrogation environments. We feel pity for them we don't feel for our own gender..
You did make a point...and women who are taken prisoner...SUFFER.
Well it's kind of like they're sure they've give us drugs through the years to fight well like Vietnam so why wouldn't it be okay to give us a Little Nookie 😳