@@jessicag630 there's a tonne that he uses, positive reinforcement, repetition, etc. This is a good man using good techniques, he built a relationship with this girl and never pushed her to deliver more than she could offer. He identified parts of her personality and tailored his technique to suit her, not to suit any theories or scientific school of thought.
This is insane: The 60s we’re a lot more efficient than now, I was 3 when I got my therapist and when I turned ten, I am still misbehaving meanwhile that girl who has low functioning autism and induced by trauma went from literally a cute and chaotic girl to a very obedient, angelic and behaved child at age 10!
Autism induced by trauma? I have two sons with autism and three girls without between them. I am certain I am the carrier. Because both sons have different fathers.
There is emotional development happening here that I haven’t understood until quite recently myself. I’m 26 but I’ve only started going under my blanket as a means to feel secure because security is comforting. I mean I can ask for hugs too now but self soothing is a very good skill to learn and that’s what I believe that amazing doctor is fostering in that little child. An allowance of emotions and space when needed. Letting them set their own pace so they can make choices for themselves independently
the objective of using each interest to create an opportunity to make her learn voluntarily is the success behind doing, following and most of all remembering or generalizing it
I am german, but I also understand the holland- language, bcs. I'm living close to the border. The therapiest tread her very very good and she learned a lot from him . Thank you Doc. from germany 👍🏻🇩🇪🇩🇪. I hope you are still living ... 🍀
There’s no way that doctor is still alive 🙄🙄 the little girls yes but not the doctor
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Oh, my niece... I can see my niece in this video, although the parents have never taken her to get properly diagnosed and "treated", if possible. There might be some denial involved, however I think is just neglect, and she is 7 years of age. The reason that my niece is more functional than Josie, and this is something that I think to myself, is because of the environment she's a part of. She has another almost 9 year old sister living with them all times, goes to school and has a community around her, like grandparents and aunts. The girls also has a 12 year old brother, and an almost 20 years old brother but from my brother's first marriage. They all get along really really well. I also believe, which something sad to say, is that she and her sister had been somehow neglected and not properly cared by the mother (father too, he is my brother), which is something that brings a lot of pain to us to have to admit it, but there is nothing that we can do about it. The mother simply carries them around like a bag, do not have any basic routine like meals or bed time, no discipline or order, and on top of that, she constantly yells, gets mad and blame them for their "misbehavior", although the girls are begging for order, routine and proper care and attention. The mother cares only for herself, to the point of serving herself food first and letting the girls hungry until she gets tired of the crying and so something about it. Not to mention that she spends all day on the phone too :-( The girls are pretty much raising themselves at this point. We feel helpless and at loss. In Brazil, the law will never take the kids away from the mother. Believe me, my mother has consulted with a lawyer but they have discouraged her in face of the bureaucracy and the complications of the case.
Does anybody know the name of this documentary? I can't find it anywhere else, and the first part has been removed. Thanks for uploading, super intriguing!! xo
lots of interest for the approch.never push her to do.reparing get lor by constantin her anxiety. why is not still avaible part one?I really want to watch it over again. can somebody help me how can I find part one?
It's sad she is in that home and not with her family. But they seem to be looking after her OK and care about her. She is such a cute little girl and I could not imagine giving her up like that if i was her family, she just has her own ways, and i am sure she would have developed better in a family environment.
She wasn’t there 24/7; the previous episode mentioned she got to see her family on the weekends. He’s actually a great therapist and it’d make more sense to try to understand and influence more positive behavior from an earlier age while under the care of a professional. Just because the environment would be “familial” doesn’t mean it’d be better, this kind of thinking is why so many people are diagnosed late in life if ever. And by then it’s very hard to change your behavior.
@@Kx1942O2212 you don't know that!! She would have done great in the home she was born into ,with her parents and siblings. Maybe the therapist could visit the home ,if he has such a good impact. Maybe she could learn to throw things out of a window and cut up dolls at home under Mom and Dads watch care. People think that because of what is being shown on this film, that this soft spoken man in a white robe has all the answers. Just Maybe she doesn't need reform, just maybe others need tolerance and patience.
Yes its sad I believe she needs her parents and siblings, and maybe she just needs the home and people she was born into, to adapt to her.. She seemed to have a sweet subtle way about her upon arrival in previous videos. She just needs tolerance and patience. She needs her parents and siblings.
@@lonnaproctor9547 Mothers and fathers don’t have the same understanding as a therapist such as this one. That’s why many give up their children as soon as they learned they had problems, physical or mental. Also, if the therapist just visited on the weekend, the therapy wouldn’t necessarily stick because it could be undone unless the family completely supported his suggestions. And as for the tolerance and patience; that’s what the therapist had. YOU don’t know how the family would’ve reacted and treated her, either. There are many cases of familial neglect because the child couldn’t conform to their standards. And yeah, maybe I don’t know exactly what would’ve been the absolute best for this particular child but as someone who does have autism I could genuinely say I wish I had a therapist at a very young age as opposed to being targeted by my own family.
@@lonnaproctor9547 Also, just wanna throw this out there: the mom abandoned the girls and eventually she went on to live with her father, step-mother, and siblings. So she did in fact have a chance at a normal life surrounded by family AFTER she got treatment she needed. And please keep in mind this is a much earlier time than what we have in recognition of autism today.
Ok this was filmed in the Netherlands meaning they are speaking dutch. Pretty sure the dutch were one of if not the first to describe and offer protocols for the care and treatments for autistic children. Placing a child into care would not have been easy for the family, but a child like Josie left in the family home would have either been left to her own divises and recieved beign neglect, or punished, when everything became to much and had a meltdown. Offering Josie's family hope that she could return home with tools to interact with her family and be somewhat independent would have been a God send.
At around 1:55 it says "Blood groups and fingerprints indicate a likelihood that they are identical twins." Either they are identical twins or they are not. Why aren't they sure? Also, at 10:48 is that Michael Jackson holding his child out of the window?
Because this was before genetic testing. And if the twins were dichorionic and diamniotic they couldn't say with certainty that they are identicals, although having the same blood group and fingerprints are highly suggestive
I just would not have that child on the window sill at all! I know that was a different time but I feel that is so dangerous, I know he is holding on to her but no, too risky
She learns differently than her twin sister ..twins even identical twins are not the same person. They aren’t always going to learn at the same rate..have the same likes. One twin can have a learning disability when the other doesn’t. Identical twins are one egg that split into 2 and once split they are no longer one person ..they have the same dna but 2 people even with identical dna are not clone copies who are the identical in every single way.
I'm a little confused. I met 35 year old identical twins, both with autism, yet in this case only one has autism. Being identical how is it that only one is autistic?
Idk it keeps popping up for me. Every time 1 ends the next one has already popped up for me to click on. Idk why everyone is having such a problem finding these. I've watched 1 through 4 one after the last in order.
The relationship between this little girl is amazing to watch. Then during her sudden fascination with taking her clothes off, comes back to minus square one. And the answer is drugging her, aged 6. She practically tells her therapist using charades! Acts & sounds out her own abuse taking place. And like all, too good father figures, would rather ignore all these blatently obvious signs - than face the truth. That someone broke your entire study and flushed good years of your amazing work with this child down the toilet. She was begging you to save her
I watched video 1 and none of what that child was doing was abnormal..many infants/toddlers have issues with not wanting to chew. I have seen many kids who gag on the texture of certain foods and only want to eat things like yogurt or soup. Babies can have sensory issues that are not considered abnormal for that child. Child develop at different rates even identical twins. It’s when the sensory issues start to hinder their learning…some kids like to make messes. I’m not saying this child isn’t Autistic because I’ve never seen the child obviously but I’ve seen so many kids do these things and they weren’t/aren’t autistic. My son hated writing couldn’t color he scribbled I also have a similar issue with my hands/grip..I don’t like to write it hurts..my son hated shoes, tags in his clothes, couldn’t hold his pencil properly until 3rd grade but was advanced in every other area. My niece would chew anything and would gag and throw up when fed foods that to her had a gross texture and she is extremely smart and not autistic..I’ve noticed on TH-cam suddenly everyone is autistic ..I find it odd that someone would suddenly be diagnosed as autistic at an adult age..if a person is shy or displays any kind of self soothing behavior they are now autistic? Someone told my friends daughter that because she plays with her ear when upset that she is autistic..i think it’s ridiculous..I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have some type of self soothing mannerisms..we aren’t robots. It’s just that some self soothing like thumb sucking is seen as babyish and children are encouraged to stop but something like humming or playing with your ear is not as noticeable and so parents don’t encourage kids to stop ..even adults engage in self soothing I have seen kids crying hysterically over stepping on sand..when they first realize that it’s different than grass or cement or the floor it scares them. Some kids are afraid of water..I have seen kids terrified of car washes..kids will be kids..sometimes people expect all kids to develop at the same rate and some kids just need extra attention, extra playtime, extra reassurance..they just need more than other kids. I have seen so many adults maybe video calling themselves autistic..that they just figured out at age 29 they are autistic..I think if someone is autistic..you probably would have known before age 29
Yeah kids don't come out of the womb knowing everything that's in this world... As parents we must guide, love, care, teach them. I've seen the behaviors in my children that people with autistic children saw as autistic behavior...it's just children's behavior, it's normal. Although that one mom who told me my kids might be autistic has an autistic child but he is very intelligent. He loves music.They are merely exploring the world around them at their own pace. As long as it's not interfering with school or any relationships like for example being able to make friends.
She needs her mom. She's showing signs of abandonment issues and the inability to connect with others in addition to the autism. How sad mom abandoned her and her sisters.
A good parent with good education of autism is much better of course. She may or may not have had any abandonment issues, perhaps depending how bad her disconnect was. I can tell you however that her inability to connect with others isn't separate from her being on the spectrum. That is definitely a symptom for "some" with autism, some to a worse degree than others. I am wondering if how she was treated "off camera" didn't cause some of her issues seen in part 2, which is as far as I've gotten. See, they used to and God help some still do, use punishment as a means to stop their "stimming". Stimming is how they self regulate and shouldn't be stopped unless it's harming them. In this and some other cases, other safer, calmer, etc ways to "stim" can usually be taught.
Ughh so sad that many children have high functioning autism and no one , NO ONE would know and then they are “ TREATED “ and this is what happens . I have done and still do all of what this child did before her “ TREATMENT “ am I still autistic ??? I still stare without acknowledging anything or anyone around me ( I call it , talking to my twin ) , I still tap my fingers , don’t look people in the eye ( not people/ person) and yet i worked in the public all my life . Good at one subject and can’t grasp another . Come on , treating these children is harmful . Look up Raun Kaufman !!!!!! Once again , RAUN KAUFMAN !!! I’ll say it two more times because I have OCD ( another reason people say children have autism ). RAUN KAUFMAN , RAUN KAUFMAN !!!!!
Got to remember that this was early in acknowledging what autism was and not just a child acting out or retarded. They monitored and offered sensory therapy, before using medication.
@@dianabailey5175 ok bear with me as my dyslexia is playing up. Medicating an autistic child probably isn't what is used today, but this film is a historic piece of medical research. Watching Josie being able to eat a more balanced diet IS crucial for her development. Were the side effects worth this? Only Josie can tell us. Personally I think they were giving her far too much and probably were working on a theory that autism was like bipolar, that with the right treatment it could be managed.
I guess for her is more soothing to feel the texture of the food. Must be the sensory input or she doesnt enjoy the feeling of biting into the cookie. I myself dont like to bite a lot of foods, it makes me anxious tho so I just cut it or take pieces with my hands. Its not sensory or anything I just dont like it. I get anxious thinking this or that might break my teeth.
An anxiety over the texture. The fear of firmer things in the mouth and against the teeth "freaked" her out, and her brain had no way of explaining it to her. So refusal of biting was her coping mechanism. I experienced the same til 5 years old. She knows HOW to bite, she didnt like the way it felt or the results. I am lucky to be extremely high functioning, through 30 years of therapy. I still refuse certain foods because of texture.
@@navioconnell6938 Yes, sensory disorder causes this and can also cause the same anxiety towards smells, sounds, touch and sight. It's the reason many on the spectrum have extremely few foods they'll eat, and hate loud noises, etc, etc.
@@sweetb2006 Look, I'm having a rough week, so I'm going to actually ask. Are you trying to explain my own disorder to me, or agreeing in what is coming off to me as in a condescending manner?
@@navioconnell6938 it could be that they thought they were replying to the original question. I say this only because I have on occasion replied on threads to the wrong person.
You don’t have to be a therapist to see that they are regressing her and using isolation deprivation. Yes , this was before the 60’s yet common sense kicks in eventually and this should be known to all … ALL , that this is something used to get monies and it’s a shame !!!!
I'm sorry for her that they don't try to find out why she is for example picking up the cigarettes. Why not respect her needs and help her crate an environment that fits. Also she clearly wanted to do something with the paper scraps on the floor and he didn't let her. Why? I wanted to know what she planned
Interesting did he say these are identical twins if so why does one have autism and the other doesn't could this also mean that inoculations or rather immunizations may have caused this?
I mean, surely it's more likely that autism is a combination of genetic and in utero conditions, as well as environmental factors, with lots of things making it more likely but no one thing being a definitive cause. I saw on another video of the twins that they were two of four girls born in three years, and likely suffered some emotional and physical neglect in their first year, and the mother left the home when they were still toddlers. That's not to say that their environment caused Josies autism, just that it may have left her more isolated within herself and less able to garner attention from her parents who were suffering themselves. The parents also commented that she was withdrawn and noticably different to her sister from birth, which just goes to show, that if they even did get vaccinated, then it didn't cause autism. Also, vaccines can't cause autism. And considering how many different vaccines there are and have been over the years, don't you think that it would be odd if they all happened to cause the same neurodivergent condition? It would be like if diarrhoea meds, and pain relief, and cough meds all happened to cause epilepsy or something.
Im not a droctor but. I have kids and what i see the doctor. Pushs her to do this some. Stuff. She would being better with mom and sister. With love and care
Sometimes children need some pushing to do things, otherwise this girl might just hide in her bed all day and do nothing.. which is not healthy for her. Her family seem bad and she might have been neglected or abused if she stayed with parents who did not want her.
Yes they are speaking Dutch. As far as the twins go this would have been a fantastic case study, as they can and do point out how a child with moderate autism develops versus a child without. This was ground breaking.
The therapist is using some techniques that are only *now* known as being helpful to kids. Man is streets ahead 👏
are you kidding??
I did'nt know that. What techniques in the video are actually useful for children with autism?
@@robynklobucher6533 no.
@@jessicag630 there's a tonne that he uses, positive reinforcement, repetition, etc. This is a good man using good techniques, he built a relationship with this girl and never pushed her to deliver more than she could offer. He identified parts of her personality and tailored his technique to suit her, not to suit any theories or scientific school of thought.
The doctor seems so kind and patient with Josie.
That doctor is the father figure every kids needs but don’t deserve
This is insane: The 60s we’re a lot more efficient than now, I was 3 when I got my therapist and when I turned ten, I am still misbehaving meanwhile that girl who has low functioning autism and induced by trauma went from literally a cute and chaotic girl to a very obedient, angelic and behaved child at age 10!
I totally agree
Autism induced by trauma? I have two sons with autism and three girls without between them. I am certain I am the carrier. Because both sons have different fathers.
what do you mean by " induced' ?
Because back in the 60s the work for passion and now majority work for money
There is emotional development happening here that I haven’t understood until quite recently myself. I’m 26 but I’ve only started going under my blanket as a means to feel secure because security is comforting. I mean I can ask for hugs too now but self soothing is a very good skill to learn and that’s what I believe that amazing doctor is fostering in that little child. An allowance of emotions and space when needed. Letting them set their own pace so they can make choices for themselves independently
The therapist is excellent!
I agree. He is constantly giving this child validation.
the objective of using each interest to create an opportunity to make her learn voluntarily is the success behind doing, following and most of all remembering or generalizing it
The excitement I had when clicking on part 2 👏🏼😀👏🏼☺️
Thank you 🥰
I am german, but I also understand the holland- language, bcs. I'm living close to the border.
The therapiest tread her very very good and she learned a lot from him . Thank you Doc. from germany 👍🏻🇩🇪🇩🇪.
I hope you are still living ... 🍀
hello from the US!!
Hello from The Netherlands.
There’s no way that doctor is still alive 🙄🙄 the little girls yes but not the doctor
Oh, my niece... I can see my niece in this video, although the parents have never taken her to get properly diagnosed and "treated", if possible. There might be some denial involved, however I think is just neglect, and she is 7 years of age. The reason that my niece is more functional than Josie, and this is something that I think to myself, is because of the environment she's a part of. She has another almost 9 year old sister living with them all times, goes to school and has a community around her, like grandparents and aunts. The girls also has a 12 year old brother, and an almost 20 years old brother but from my brother's first marriage. They all get along really really well. I also believe, which something sad to say, is that she and her sister had been somehow neglected and not properly cared by the mother (father too, he is my brother), which is something that brings a lot of pain to us to have to admit it, but there is nothing that we can do about it. The mother simply carries them around like a bag, do not have any basic routine like meals or bed time, no discipline or order, and on top of that, she constantly yells, gets mad and blame them for their "misbehavior", although the girls are begging for order, routine and proper care and attention. The mother cares only for herself, to the point of serving herself food first and letting the girls hungry until she gets tired of the crying and so something about it. Not to mention that she spends all day on the phone too :-(
The girls are pretty much raising themselves at this point. We feel helpless and at loss. In Brazil, the law will never take the kids away from the mother. Believe me, my mother has consulted with a lawyer but they have discouraged her in face of the bureaucracy and the complications of the case.
That sounds like it needs to be reported still even if it's in Brazil we all have the responsibility to keep children safe.
This therapist is amazing👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you for part 1 and 2 though!!!
josie seems to be able to connect with the music in 2 rhythms, sideways and up and down.
been looking for the second part of this film, thank you!!
The therapist is truly wonderful ❤
Is it me, or does Josie seem hyper aware of the camera? She looks in the direction of the camera and seems to focus on it.
She’s adorable 💕
Anyones eyes pop out when they saw the drop from that window he was holding her out of? Lol
YES!
Autism is neurological the brain developed, they maybe identical twins but their brains develop in their own time just like personalities
Does anybody know the name of this documentary? I can't find it anywhere else, and the first part has been removed. Thanks for uploading, super intriguing!! xo
Does anyone know the name of this study or the therapist involved or anything? I find it absolutely fascinating
Look in the description on video 1. The link for that is in the description of this video.
In germany we call this Sonderpädagogik... in english it's *special education* ...
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@@fraukethelen576 oh yeah. I am very familiar with special education. My brother was in it. I just was referring to this study in particular.
In part 3 he calls himself "Dr. Camp"... possibly Dr. Kemp?
Approx 20:30 in part 3
lots of interest for the approch.never push her to do.reparing get lor by constantin her anxiety.
why is not still avaible part one?I really want to watch it over again.
can somebody help me how can I find part one?
im autistic and had all of the symptoms
what does she say @ 23:45 ?
'Het is hier een bende' wich means ' It is a mess in here'
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THANK YOU!! 😊
It's sad she is in that home and not with her family. But they seem to be looking after her OK and care about her. She is such a cute little girl and I could not imagine giving her up like that if i was her family, she just has her own ways, and i am sure she would have developed better in a family environment.
She wasn’t there 24/7; the previous episode mentioned she got to see her family on the weekends.
He’s actually a great therapist and it’d make more sense to try to understand and influence more positive behavior from an earlier age while under the care of a professional. Just because the environment would be “familial” doesn’t mean it’d be better, this kind of thinking is why so many people are diagnosed late in life if ever. And by then it’s very hard to change your behavior.
@@Kx1942O2212 you don't know that!! She would have done great in the home she was born into ,with her parents and siblings. Maybe the therapist could visit the home ,if he has such a good impact. Maybe she could learn to throw things out of a window and cut up dolls at home under Mom and Dads watch care. People think that because of what is being shown on this film, that this soft spoken man in a white robe has all the answers. Just Maybe she doesn't need reform, just maybe others need tolerance and patience.
Yes its sad I believe she needs her parents and siblings, and maybe she just needs the home and people she was born into, to adapt to her.. She seemed to have a sweet subtle way about her upon arrival in previous videos. She just needs tolerance and patience. She needs her parents and siblings.
@@lonnaproctor9547 Mothers and fathers don’t have the same understanding as a therapist such as this one. That’s why many give up their children as soon as they learned they had problems, physical or mental.
Also, if the therapist just visited on the weekend, the therapy wouldn’t necessarily stick because it could be undone unless the family completely supported his suggestions. And as for the tolerance and patience; that’s what the therapist had. YOU don’t know how the family would’ve reacted and treated her, either. There are many cases of familial neglect because the child couldn’t conform to their standards.
And yeah, maybe I don’t know exactly what would’ve been the absolute best for this particular child but as someone who does have autism I could genuinely say I wish I had a therapist at a very young age as opposed to being targeted by my own family.
@@lonnaproctor9547 Also, just wanna throw this out there: the mom abandoned the girls and eventually she went on to live with her father, step-mother, and siblings. So she did in fact have a chance at a normal life surrounded by family AFTER she got treatment she needed. And please keep in mind this is a much earlier time than what we have in recognition of autism today.
I don't understand, she was progressing really fast and then suddenly she can't leave her bed...
that is the problem with Autism
Ok this was filmed in the Netherlands meaning they are speaking dutch. Pretty sure the dutch were one of if not the first to describe and offer protocols for the care and treatments for autistic children.
Placing a child into care would not have been easy for the family, but a child like Josie left in the family home would have either been left to her own divises and recieved beign neglect, or punished, when everything became to much and had a meltdown.
Offering Josie's family hope that she could return home with tools to interact with her family and be somewhat independent would have been a God send.
Beautiful video 🙌
I'd really like to see part 3 and 4.
Link in description
@@MentalHealthTreatment oh thank you!
❤️Thank you I saw the first one on a different channel and didn't see the next set listed. Liked and subscribed. Psychology is fascinating.
Very interesting!!
Is this blunted eyes effect?
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Twins, 3years and 4 years? Huh? What am I missing?
What happened to part 1?
its out there somewhere
At around 1:55 it says "Blood groups and fingerprints indicate a likelihood that they are identical twins." Either they are identical twins or they are not. Why aren't they sure? Also, at 10:48 is that Michael Jackson holding his child out of the window?
Because this was before genetic testing. And if the twins were dichorionic and diamniotic they couldn't say with certainty that they are identicals, although having the same blood group and fingerprints are highly suggestive
@@MentalHealthTreatment Thanks for that Information. That is interesting.
I am Autistc, i got no help as a child
And how is your adulthood now?
@@ponypony1take a wild guess 💀💀 even if they got help, outcomes are poor.
Where are parts 3 and 4?
In the Link Desc
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I just would not have that child on the window sill at all! I know that was a different time but I feel that is so dangerous, I know he is holding on to her but no, too risky
I held my breath the whole time. 😳
Same here. Like he was TEACHING her to wrongdo.
She's almost 70 years old today...😳
Part 1?
its out there somewhere
I’ve watched so many of these type of videos and I’ve never seen kids with dwarfism why is that?
She learns differently than her twin sister ..twins even identical twins are not the same person. They aren’t always going to learn at the same rate..have the same likes. One twin can have a learning disability when the other doesn’t. Identical twins are one egg that split into 2 and once split they are no longer one person ..they have the same dna but 2 people even with identical dna are not clone copies who are the identical in every single way.
I'm a little confused. I met 35 year old identical twins, both with autism, yet in this case only one has autism. Being identical how is it that only one is autistic?
it would depend on if they've shared the amniotic sacs or not i believe
@@meyague thank you, I just wondered.
Several possibilities
1. autism has an environmental cause
2. de-novo mutation in the affected twin
3. autism has an epigenetic cause
@@MentalHealthTreatment thanks for responding to my question.
Twins tend to be born early and it could be that this twin was of very low birth weight, which is a known contributor for autism.
Has part 1 been reuploaded anywhere?
i think so
Wheres the part 3??
In description
Idk it keeps popping up for me. Every time 1 ends the next one has already popped up for me to click on. Idk why everyone is having such a problem finding these. I've watched 1 through 4 one after the last in order.
Why would you ever use a swimming pool instruction in this way!!!!!!
Jose sure feels very comfortable with the therapist. 🤍
Josie*
Where is their parents ?
The relationship between this little girl is amazing to watch. Then during her sudden fascination with taking her clothes off, comes back to minus square one. And the answer is drugging her, aged 6. She practically tells her therapist using charades! Acts & sounds out her own abuse taking place. And like all, too good father figures, would rather ignore all these blatently obvious signs - than face the truth. That someone broke your entire study and flushed good years of your amazing work with this child down the toilet. She was begging you to save her
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I watched video 1 and none of what that child was doing was abnormal..many infants/toddlers have issues with not wanting to chew. I have seen many kids who gag on the texture of certain foods and only want to eat things like yogurt or soup. Babies can have sensory issues that are not considered abnormal for that child.
Child develop at different rates even identical twins. It’s when the sensory issues start to hinder their learning…some kids like to make messes. I’m not saying this child isn’t Autistic because I’ve never seen the child obviously but I’ve seen so many kids do these things and they weren’t/aren’t autistic.
My son hated writing couldn’t color he scribbled I also have a similar issue with my hands/grip..I don’t like to write it hurts..my son hated shoes, tags in his clothes, couldn’t hold his pencil properly until 3rd grade but was advanced in every other area. My niece would chew anything and would gag and throw up when fed foods that to her had a gross texture and she is extremely smart and not autistic..I’ve noticed on TH-cam suddenly everyone is autistic ..I find it odd that someone would suddenly be diagnosed as autistic at an adult age..if a person is shy or displays any kind of self soothing behavior they are now autistic? Someone told my friends daughter that because she plays with her ear when upset that she is autistic..i think it’s ridiculous..I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have some type of self soothing mannerisms..we aren’t robots. It’s just that some self soothing like thumb sucking is seen as babyish and children are encouraged to stop but something like humming or playing with your ear is not as noticeable and so parents don’t encourage kids to stop ..even adults engage in self soothing
I have seen kids crying hysterically over stepping on sand..when they first realize that it’s different than grass or cement or the floor it scares them. Some kids are afraid of water..I have seen kids terrified of car washes..kids will be kids..sometimes people expect all kids to develop at the same rate and some kids just need extra attention, extra playtime, extra reassurance..they just need more than other kids. I have seen so many adults maybe video calling themselves autistic..that they just figured out at age 29 they are autistic..I think if someone is autistic..you probably would have known before age 29
Yeah kids don't come out of the womb knowing everything that's in this world... As parents we must guide, love, care, teach them. I've seen the behaviors in my children that people with autistic children saw as autistic behavior...it's just children's behavior, it's normal. Although that one mom who told me my kids might be autistic has an autistic child but he is very intelligent. He loves music.They are merely exploring the world around them at their own pace. As long as it's not interfering with school or any relationships like for example being able to make friends.
She needs her mom. She's showing signs of abandonment issues and the inability to connect with others in addition to the autism. How sad mom abandoned her and her sisters.
from part 1 I thought she went to visit her mother and sisters an the weekends, but their mom abandoned them???
*I WATCHED PART 4 AND SHE STARTED LIVING WITH HER FATHER AND STEP MOM WHEN SHE WAS 9-10YRS OLD*
A good parent with good education of autism is much better of course. She may or may not have had any abandonment issues, perhaps depending how bad her disconnect was. I can tell you however that her inability to connect with others isn't separate from her being on the spectrum. That is definitely a symptom for "some" with autism, some to a worse degree than others.
I am wondering if how she was treated "off camera" didn't cause some of her issues seen in part 2, which is as far as I've gotten. See, they used to and God help some still do, use punishment as a means to stop their "stimming". Stimming is how they self regulate and shouldn't be stopped unless it's harming them. In this and some other cases, other safer, calmer, etc ways to "stim" can usually be taught.
Thank God these places have closed
I wouldn't put my bare feet in sand either!
Ughh so sad that many children have high functioning autism and no one , NO ONE would know and then they are “ TREATED “ and this is what happens . I have done and still do all of what this child did before her “ TREATMENT “ am I still autistic ??? I still stare without acknowledging anything or anyone around me ( I call it , talking to my twin ) , I still tap my fingers , don’t look people in the eye ( not people/ person) and yet i worked in the public all my life . Good at one subject and can’t grasp another . Come on , treating these children is harmful . Look up Raun Kaufman !!!!!! Once again , RAUN KAUFMAN !!! I’ll say it two more times because I have OCD ( another reason people say children have autism ). RAUN KAUFMAN , RAUN KAUFMAN !!!!!
Got to remember that this was early in acknowledging what autism was and not just a child acting out or retarded. They monitored and offered sensory therapy, before using medication.
@@rachaelrogers3909 Raun Kaufman was early on and received no medication at all .
@@dianabailey5175 ok bear with me as my dyslexia is playing up. Medicating an autistic child probably isn't what is used today, but this film is a historic piece of medical research. Watching Josie being able to eat a more balanced diet IS crucial for her development. Were the side effects worth this? Only Josie can tell us.
Personally I think they were giving her far too much and probably were working on a theory that autism was like bipolar, that with the right treatment it could be managed.
Why can't she bite, I know she has a "texture issue" or something with the cookies & yogurt. Was that because she can't bite?
I guess for her is more soothing to feel the texture of the food. Must be the sensory input or she doesnt enjoy the feeling of biting into the cookie.
I myself dont like to bite a lot of foods, it makes me anxious tho so I just cut it or take pieces with my hands. Its not sensory or anything I just dont like it. I get anxious thinking this or that might break my teeth.
An anxiety over the texture. The fear of firmer things in the mouth and against the teeth "freaked" her out, and her brain had no way of explaining it to her. So refusal of biting was her coping mechanism. I experienced the same til 5 years old. She knows HOW to bite, she didnt like the way it felt or the results. I am lucky to be extremely high functioning, through 30 years of therapy. I still refuse certain foods because of texture.
@@navioconnell6938 Yes, sensory disorder causes this and can also cause the same anxiety towards smells, sounds, touch and sight. It's the reason many on the spectrum have extremely few foods they'll eat, and hate loud noises, etc, etc.
@@sweetb2006 Look, I'm having a rough week, so I'm going to actually ask. Are you trying to explain my own disorder to me, or agreeing in what is coming off to me as in a condescending manner?
@@navioconnell6938 it could be that they thought they were replying to the original question. I say this only because I have on occasion replied on threads to the wrong person.
How can you be sure this twin is not getting abused, even by the other twin
These videos are painful to watch!!
then why ask for the rest of the parts?
You don’t have to be a therapist to see that they are regressing her and using isolation deprivation. Yes , this was before the 60’s yet common sense kicks in eventually and this should be known to all … ALL , that this is something used to get monies and it’s a shame !!!!
no effort is ever made at communication
I'm sorry for her that they don't try to find out why she is for example picking up the cigarettes. Why not respect her needs and help her crate an environment that fits. Also she clearly wanted to do something with the paper scraps on the floor and he didn't let her. Why? I wanted to know what she planned
Why not let her put the pieces into a trash can and point out that it looks nicer without litter.
This was a whole different time sis...calm down.
Interesting did he say these are identical twins if so why does one have autism and the other doesn't could this also mean that inoculations or rather immunizations may have caused this?
But if they’re identical, and it was caused by vaccines, wouldn’t they both react the same way?
Because their brains develop differently. Much like personalities.
@@evabobeva77 Vaccines can not cause autism.
Its more likely they were both prem and she was of the lowest birth weight.
While I agree that shots can cause this I also know that there is another factor. I'm not sure if it's a genetic factor or environmental or both.
I mean, surely it's more likely that autism is a combination of genetic and in utero conditions, as well as environmental factors, with lots of things making it more likely but no one thing being a definitive cause.
I saw on another video of the twins that they were two of four girls born in three years, and likely suffered some emotional and physical neglect in their first year, and the mother left the home when they were still toddlers. That's not to say that their environment caused Josies autism, just that it may have left her more isolated within herself and less able to garner attention from her parents who were suffering themselves. The parents also commented that she was withdrawn and noticably different to her sister from birth, which just goes to show, that if they even did get vaccinated, then it didn't cause autism.
Also, vaccines can't cause autism. And considering how many different vaccines there are and have been over the years, don't you think that it would be odd if they all happened to cause the same neurodivergent condition? It would be like if diarrhoea meds, and pain relief, and cough meds all happened to cause epilepsy or something.
Is she speaking afrikaans?
dutch
sounds Italian to me!
@@ajrwilde14 oh nope! Nothing has an Italian sound here😂
Dutch, very similar though.
Im not a droctor but. I have kids and what i see the doctor. Pushs her to do this some. Stuff. She would being better with mom and sister. With love and care
The mom literally abandoned all of them.... I think she was best there with them
@@casstevenson203 Where does it say this?
@@sweetb2006 see the comments on the first video
Sometimes children need some pushing to do things, otherwise this girl might just hide in her bed all day and do nothing.. which is not healthy for her. Her family seem bad and she might have been neglected or abused if she stayed with parents who did not want her.
I can't take watching this ridiculous therapy! Thank God we have advanced!!!
They walked so that we could run, my dear.
That's how it starts.... Unfortunately...
Huh, German accent... twins were tortured in Ww2
This was after WW2
And Dutch I think.
Yes they are speaking Dutch. As far as the twins go this would have been a fantastic case study, as they can and do point out how a child with moderate autism develops versus a child without. This was ground breaking.
Its dutch Not german