When I was a kid our house burned down. This was literally the only possession of mine that made it through the fire, and I still have my blackened copy today.
He's whiny as fuck. Basically, if he sucks at a game then the game undeniably sucks. I knew kids like that when I was little. To be 'SO GOOD' at video games he whines like a child when a game presents him with a problem.
Three things you must know to survive this game: 1) you have to light all of the fireplaces with the same counselor 2) you dodge by holding DOWN and pressing LEFT or RIGHT 3) you can switch counselors by pressing START in a small cabin
Brilliant game. You needed patience to figure a lot of stuff out. But once you did, it was an amazing game involving a lot of strategy. I'm not surprised James liked it after he spent time on it... if he'd spent more time he'd like it even more.
There's actually a reason why Most characters with black outfits were purple on the NES. You couldn't really do characters with mostly black outfits well with the nes color palette, not to mention they might blend in with the background. So that's why.
I remember playing this in a dark room late at night with the volume on the tv turned way up and eating pizza with my friends. Damn those were some good times playing Nintendo! The music in this game takes me back to that time. I will remember it even when I'm old and laying in my death bed. Thanks James and Mike for these videos.
@@gregbethscheider5912 it took a lot of practice lol. Many years. It's no easy feat. There are people that can do it in 4 mins or less though, so I'm nowhere near the record.
Couple things: Using the NES Max controller makes dodging Jason way easier, Mark and Chrissy are the fastest characters, so use them to scout better weapons which you immediately trade off to the slower characters, then let Mark and Chrissy keep the torches. The cave and the woods are a waste of time if you actually want to beat the game, and Jason appears way more often at night--if you let him kill the kids, he'll kill them five at a time, if he kills them all, the game's over--so save those "fuck the kids" moments until night three.
+Ally G You don't even need to scout for weapons there's a trick to get the match weapon which is the best weapon in the game from the start on day 1. I get it for Mark and Chrissy, then when day 2 comes have mark get the sweater and become my Jason hunter while Chrissy is my number two in case Mark dies, when day three comes you want to try to deal as much damage to Jason as you can outside. Another tip is the moment you select the counselor you want to start the game, from start to finish the game runs in a pattern which can be memorized to make the game easier.
Same here, man! I want to like your comment, but.... 69 likes! I'll revisit this video when it's at 70 then I'll like and make it 71. Contributing my part to get it to 420.
This game gets a bad rap (and for the map it's well deserved), but I really loved it as a kid. I truly felt like he was stalking me, and when it all came down to the wire, naturally, you were stuck as the slow chubby kid with no throwing power, and shit went insane. I'd end up lost in a cave or out on the lake with night closing in, one kid left, campers crying out for help in every direction. The music would get stuck in my head and even though I dreaded it, I looked forward to playing this game with a friend, handing off the controller and wondering just how in the hell far we'd get this time. It was a shoddily made game, but damn if it wasn't fun in the right circumstances. Good times. And of course we can finally BE Jason in the new game, and get our revenge at last.
it isn't that bad of the game. Mike and James didn't understand how to play until well into half of the video and even then they didn't fully get it. By then they were already frustrated with it.
James gets it fine. James kind of likes this game. Its Mike that doesnt. Just because Mike is a narcissist and stole all the energy don't think James is the same person.
I honestly don't understand the complaints about navigation on the main trails and lake. If you consider where the camera is shooting from, everything makes complete sense. Maybe not in the caves and forest, but the others are not that hard. Especially someone who is a filmmaker.
For real. I don't understand all the confusion. You're still heading in the same direction. The only time it's sort of, mildly confusing is when you leave a cabin and forget which side of the map you're on, but even that's pretty easy to figure out.
Philip Baker Yeah I know, the direction you are going is relative to your view, not to the map; I don't know why Mike is having a hard time understanding that.
I find the best explanation is your perspective is always from the outside looking inward. No matter which way you turn the 'camera' follows you on the outside looking towards the centre.
I call bs, you have to hit him almost 500 times with the rock to beat him all three days. Day one is doable with the rock, but that would take forever to accomplish. Day two and three are way harder and day three you can barely get any hits because he moves so fast.
Honestly, I 100% agree with the way they did the map in this game. I'll explain: They designed the game to be see less. The screen inky cuts away when you are switching paths. There are no loading zones when you are walking on the same path. So you can walk from one end of the camp to the other with no cuts or breaks in the action. So with this in mind, look at the map and just imagine that when you are at the bottom of the screen, the camera -- your viewpoint -- is located just South of you looking inward towards you, facing northward. Now walk right/east around the camp. When you get to the far right side of the map where the path curves northward, the camera -- your viewpoint -- never switches which side of the path it is on. It is still on the outside looking inward, so when you head rightward on the screen once the path curves northward, you are heading northward on the map. Now think about when you get to the top of the map and the path curves back westward. Once again, the camera -- your viewpoint -- has still not switched which side of the path it is looking towards you from. It is still looking inwards towards you, meaning that it is facing southward. So when you head right on the screen, you are actually heading west, therefore you are moving left in the screen. The stage backgrounds even match this. When you are on the north side of the lake, for example, the screen is still looking at you with the lake in the background. It does not show the plain grass in the other side of the path instead. Therefore, it would actually be *_incorrect_* for the map to work any other way than the way they had it work in this game and is the reason why I agree with this mechanic 100%.
I seriously don't understand why people don't grasp this design. Doing it in any other way would be none sensical... It makes you wonder if most players are not paying attention to the background in games.
+Jt Money I've written as much text trying to explain how _mirrors_ work, so I don't agree with your line of reasoning at all. The map system in this game certainly requires you to stop and think, but it _does_ make sense, following its own rules consistently.
Once you get what to do in this game, it's much easier. The torch will save your ass. The only place I never really mess with are the secret areas in the woods. This game was definitely creepy when I was a kid, and it still is, but that's what makes it awesome.
The reason the map is "broken" is because its actually not broken at all. Its because they only wanted to program as few background screens as possible. This means that the backround is always the lake, the mountain or the forest. Basically if you always want the background to be the lake (and make it feel like you are going around the lake,) then the top parts of the map will make it seem like you are traveling backwards. This could be fixed by making things mirrored on the top(play probably wouldnt notice). but this was back in old games so they probably didnt realize how confusing it would feel until it was too late to bother fixing. its mainly because you are using paths of a top down map and applying them to a side view. It can confuse you.
+Marshall Shilling it took me years to beat day 3 of this game. So proud to say I finally did a few times now. Holy shit is this game tough without knowing "the patterns"
I don't understand the Internet comment jackals. Neither of them proclaim to be experts. The whole point is to watch them try to tackle difficult games. Sometimes they don't. And Mike is part of the whole deal so I don't understand the negativity towards him. Just don't watch the channel. Isn't James a dad? Doubt he's got the time to make AVGN episodes that he used to. I dig all your content guys. Keep it up.
In order to get any items, each character must: 1) Kill a few zombies to get the lighter 2) Then jump around in certain general areas for the knife, key and potion to appear 3) Kill a bunch of zombies to get a machete to appear (optional) 4) To get the torch - Each character must require the lighter, knife, key, read two notes, light five fireplaces 5) To find the two notes that are in the cabins with fireplace: One at the lower-left corner of the lake, one at the most north from the cave. Note: you must read them that tells you to go to the cabins 6) Light all fireplaces to get the flashlight 7)A note that tells you to find the torch is located in the fireplace cabin at the most east in the middle of the map 8) The torch is located in the fireplace cabin north of the lake after completing "step 4" 9) Killing Jason's mom gives items: Day 1 - Machete, Day 2 - Sweater, Day 3 - Pitchfork 10) Axes are located in cabins in the woods, but don't bother getting them That's it in the nutshell, the rest is killing Jason. Good luck.
@@thedarknight307 Nintendo power. The Nintendo internet of the 80's. And word of mouth from friends. I beat the game back in the day. Hard as hell. Then I see speed runners these days beating the game like it's nothing. Crazy as fuck.
For some reason this video is comforting to me. A kid down the street owned this game and I was always fascinated with the movies as a kid. I can still remember the image of this game sitting on the shelf at Shoprite in the rental section. Ahhh nostalgia, nothing like it
Was there a reason James decided to have Mark kneel over while Jason rushed towards him? Mark has great jump control, and can bunnyhop over Jason thus evading his attacks. Also I know this video is over a year old, but some characters have better attributes than others as evident when they discovered that Mark is one of 2 of the fastest characters in the game (Chrissy being the other one). While other characters are slower, they do have redeeming qualities and if placed in strategic locations can be effective against keeping Jason at bay.
Hey hey, I found someone else who knows this game as much as I do. I say focus on keeping Mark and Crissy alive, and let the others die. One thing I did was use the other characters as bait to get better weapons, like the machete, and I'd pass it off to Mark and Crissy. Then I'd use them. Also, getting the sweater is important. If you can get the torch, even better, but thats rare. I got it ONE time. Killed Jason pretty quickly though.
You sound like an 80 year old, please stop. This game and many others were just as broken and rushed as the new "shit" games like Unity. Why would we want horriblyy difficult games when the feeling of success is the fun in it?
This is not a bad game, this is a difficult game. The music is great, there's real suspense to save those damn kids and the other camp counselors, you have Jason popping up out of nowhere to scare the shit out of you, there's multiple endings, a map screen that was accurate with a slight learning curve, great day to night transition, characters that had different characteristics, and even primitive 3D elements in the houses where Jason pops up and again scares the living crap out of you. Great game, glad I had it when I was a kid.
Thank you! This is by no means a terrible game. It sure has it's issues, but once you learn how to play it (which would be simple if you had the instructions), then it's MUCH easier.
I always used to be the only person actually defending the original Turtles on the NES, it's my favourite of the NES turtle games simply because I prefer platformers over beat'm ups, I loved the gameplay, the level design and especially the music. Glad to see Mike feeling the same way or at the very least that he does like it. It's just like Shaq Fu, most people never even played these and others are just hating on the games because 'famous' people are hating on them. I always used to defend a lot of LJN games until you guys made the video actually saying they did have some great games and only then others were starting to say it too. I always hate that online sheep mentality, so many people are just too afraid to like certain games, it's pretty messed up not to have your own opinions. Either way loving the mini Monster Madness thing going on now!
RetroDeath I agree. I also hate the sheep mentality when people are just hating on the games because 'famous' people are hating on them.I like this game and TMNT, as well as a couple others that the AVGN reviewed.
I definitely preferred TMNT 2: The Arcade Game and TMNT 3: The Manhattan Project over TMNT. Obviously, they looked better and played smoother. They were more beat 'em up which played itself better to TMNT. They actually features characters from the series. Plus TMNT had some god awful platforming sequences. All that said...I still have a place in my heart for the original.
RetroDeath i agree with the hate of stupid sheep mentality ya see i actually grew up late 80's early 90's and played these games an this ones still shit today to me does it mean i wont collect it no but i wont play it much unless i feel like torturing myself as i occasionally do cuz im odd like that shrug yes i play shit games and hard as fuck games to torture myself on occassion call it a sick pleasure lol
I really liked TMNT as well. It was a bit more challenging than it needed to be and I never came close to beating it, but other than that, I thought it was a great game. I had Friday the 13th back in the day as well and I don't think it's as bad as they let on either. It certainly wasn't a great game and had some flaws, but I did play it more than once or twice. (I think I beat it once.) It's alright.
I don't understand how they can find the map system so confusing, it's just basic spatial reasoning. You just use what you see in the background to orient yourself on the map. Completely logical?
God I can't believe how little they get the map movement. It's a board game and you're looking at it from the outside of the map inward. That explains the whole movement perfectly. You have to imagine yourself sitting around each side of the board looking inward at it and moving.
Chuck Lambert Haha. Well, Nintendo power rarely had any good information. But for any first time player, I think you can see why it'd be hard to know to do that. -Mike
Of course!! I agree....Nintendo Power helped matters from time to time, but on some of the most obvious things to mention to gamers about certain games, they often dropped the ball.
Keys appear at certain spots of the map, Health appears randomly when you jump (but more so in the forest) and the knife appears randomly when you kill a zombie
What flaws? if they had the manual they'd know what to do and once you do.this is 20min at best. Of all of ljn trash this is prolly the only game that is related to the movies. The key not appearing is cause they were just camping a spot and something had spawned already In that zone . Jason takes a ton of regular hits or go into the woods and get the torch and hes down in 4 hits. NES games really needed the manuals to know what's up.
Citation needed? By everything I can see, the game was made by a company called Pack-In-Video Games. The only ties to Atlus I can see are that it randomly appears on the Games Developed by Atlus page on Wikipedia (even though clicking on the link to the game page, Atlus isn't mentioned even once in the entire page), and the page referenced that cites them as a developer is just a Gamefaqs page just just put Atlus there as the dev without any other proof.
Love this episode! The way they try to figure the game out combined with the fact that the game itself isn't completely broken makes it really entertaining to watch. This game is clearly not good, but it's because of lots of minor flaws rather than some huge major issue that ruins the experience.
u can beat him anytime, its just matters by your weapon u have, rock sucks ass, knife is decent, u need the pitch fork to own his ass fast, only way u get it is killing his mom in the forest ruins.
I don't know how so many people don't know that if a counselor is being attacked, you can go into any small cabin and then switch to the victim and fight Jason as the victim.
I've been playing this on-and-off for over 25 years, and everything seems like second nature to me. It's odd to see people having difficulty at it. Yes, I don't know all of the tricks like the speedrunners, but it's not THAT bad of a game. One trick that James and Mike didn't mention is switching counselors in the small cabins to get Jason outside for a battle. Also, lighter > fireplaces > flashlight. The torch is through some chain of events between the larger lakeside cabins and the one in the woods.
I've even heard (I've been playing on-and-off for 18 years) that hitting Jason outside hurts him more than inside the cabins, and it proves successful for me! Though I've never beaten the third day...
It does the same damage but you can hit him over and over unlike inside the cabins, and after you land the necesarry hits to drive him away you can hit him 3 o 4 extra times...
Gaming in general isn't hard, stop trashtalking them. You are good at games you played for a long time, it is not about being good or being bad at them, it is about how much time you have to kill. It would help if you played similar games to the one you are trying to beat, but in reality, each one is its own story. James probably didn't have time.
DLJBFan2009 you should definitely check out if you haven't already Lord Kayoss he showed that not is this game not all that bad but he shows it can be completed and he killed Jason on the 3rd day with a female counselor to me was badass
James and Mike, you help make Mondays less of a steaming pile of shit. That's probably the biggest compliment anyone can say about Monday, so, thanks for these videos. I appreciate all the hard work that goes into them.
I can see how James gave this game a 2nd look. It seems like it could've been good or had potential to be good but it just doesn't meet the standards. It certainly was unique in it's own right. It's still better than Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
This video dropped less than a month after a close family member died tragically and unexpectedly. This video brought me quite a bit of comfort, and I thank you.
I got this for my 12th birthday, and had no idea what to do. I was able to figure some things out, except how to get Jason outside. I finally beat him when I was 14.
This is my favorite J&MM. I remember the orthodontist my older sisters went to had this game in the waiting area and I'd try to play it every time we went. I could never figure out what to do. Granted, I was 7-8 years old.
Not sure if any of this info is on the directions you had but here's a few other tips for beating this game. 1 Stand on the right side of the n in Jason's name when fighting him, stay still and doge and he has a hard time hitting you. 2 Use Mike and Crissy to get the others a knife by going around and passing the weapon. 3 Leave all but those 2 in the cabins next to the lake to switch to when he attacks the children. 4 Whenever you can, use the cure option with the medicine bottles rather then running out of life, it will heal you more and let you continue to collect them with Mike and Crissy. Also you can't cure yourself, it only works when you walk in a cabin with another counselor in and heal the one there. 5 Getting the Torch is not needed, it's something to do while waiting for Jason attacks, but you can get a machete at random and it's far better. The main thing is to learn how to fight Jason and manage the lake to make this game a lot more manageable.
What's funny is that it's all there in the manual, it tells you about the Jason alarm and that when he is attacking a counselor you can either reach the cabin OR switch to that counselor directly, beating zombies to find more powerful items, counselors having diferent stats, leaving the slower counselors around the lake and use the faster ones to scout all over for items, getting the torch, the sweater, trading items to other counselorsm potions appearing more often in the woods etc. While certain mechanics are more cryptic/not mentioned (like having to jump to find more items) most of the stuff is all there in the manual. Also Pro Tip: If you are outside and you see the monsters running out off the screen is because Jason is coming, quickly change screens/go inside a building to avoid him, if you fought Jason outside wait a little bit before going inside a cabin/changing screens outside since you have a high chance to find him again (Like what happened to Mike at the start of the video). If you fought him inside a Cabin wait a bit before going out or switch to another counselor. But yeah I agree despite all these flaws I really liked this game, it gave a nice vibe of being creepy and keeping you on your toes without knowing when Jason would strike, was the best they could do to adapt a slasher film to the NES, really wish we had a 16 bit version. Talking about 16 bit have you player Clock Tower on the SNES? it was famicom only but to my knowledge it was the only true horror game on the console.
The best way to describe the movement on the world map is to imagine that the camera is on the character, but is always facing the center where the lake is as it moves around the outside of the circle.
I always thought this game's music sounded an awful lot like Xexyz, so I looked it up and it turns out that both games had the same composer, Hirohiko Takayama. Pretty neat.
Important obscure rules - in a smaller cabin you can change counselors to play at different smaller cabins throughout the camp. (this is an important rule you learned halfway through your playthrough) when you scroll to the right or left it's actually clockwise/counter clockwise (important paddling the lake). You have to light some fireplaces in larger cabins to get a note to a torch location. You have to crouch when throwing rocks (shitty weapon anyway) When Jason has approximately 1/3 health he will fight you until one of you is dead without fleeing. The 2nd and 3rd day should restore all health to all counselors unless they died. I still don't know how to navigate the cave or woods. An extremely difficult game which I may have beaten years ago on a emulator, I can't remember but I would've had to cheat and practice a lot to do that.
My great grandmother had an NES for all the kids to play when they came over but this and Super Mario Bros. 3 were the only games she bought. The NES was at the top of the stairs in this creepy hall and I remember not even wanting to go up there because I was so scared of this game.
Love seeing how natural this video was, from optimism, to anger, to logic, to fuck this game. I've followed those steps many times in some of the harder games and I was looking forward to seeing it beaten, but that look on your faces was so familiar to me I feel it was a nice ending
I had SO MUCH fun with the C64 version of Friday the 13th. It was very simplistic. Basically pick a character, wander around a huge map, find a weapon you like, and try to find Jason. He's disguised as one of your friends. When you hit them, if they're actually Jason, they'll change for a second before the disguise pops up again. You basically just keep hunting him down. If he runs, he'll change disguises.
Classic Episode. James and Mike Mondays is a super fun, longtime running series. Over 4 years have past as of the time I post this here. Think about it. What a mighty series this has been. Soooo many episodes. What a wonderful library of episodes! I'm sucha huge fan! 😱 (p.s. I loved this game growing up. I was really good at this game. My favorite character in the game to use is, Mark. lol. Mark Rules)
I'm happy to hear James actually likes this game. It really has great and creepy atmosphere if you play it alone in dim light, kinda similar feel to Fester's Quest or maybe Zombies Ate My Neighbor or even Splatter House. 23:33 Only way this video could have been any better if it was totally dark room with only candle lighting or something.
Ya I actually really do like this game. I remember playing it around Halloween as a kid and loved the music/atmosphere and loved how it would turn from day to dusk/night/dawn... I find the graphics appealing (and decent for the time)...
The navigation in this game is actually really straight forward and clever for a side scrolling 2D game, creating a whole landscape from the restraints of the NES. The rest of the game is shit, but that one aspect of it is kinda impressive. The only thing is, they should have added a compass in one of the corners so that you realize which way is North, West, East and South on the map when you walk around. Considering the navigation is basically just along a horizontal and vertical grid, the compass would simply turn 90 degrees whenever you pass a corner and go from the vertical to the horizontal etc. That solves it. The trials of classic gaming! Hahaha.
Simple tricks: 1) Enter a cabin and switch counselors when Jason is in their cabin. 2) Ignore the cave. 3) Power every counselor to get a torch and hunt Jason down.
When I was a kid our house burned down. This was literally the only possession of mine that made it through the fire, and I still have my blackened copy today.
Poor bastard ..
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And let me guess, the cartridge still works, while games released today have game-breaking bugs from day one.
***** That is quite ironic
I would have been more fitting if it was The Nightmare on Elm street.
Freddy's back from the dead baby.
James' interest in this game made this video so much better.
yeah, and mikes negativity brings this video down a notch. too bad, still awesome tho
He's whiny as fuck. Basically, if he sucks at a game then the game undeniably sucks. I knew kids like that when I was little. To be 'SO GOOD' at video games he whines like a child when a game presents him with a problem.
Id be so excited to play this game. It honestly still scares me sometimes. The guy is absolutely no fun here.
Danny Parray I agree with you AVGN interest in the game did make this a good video and I want to play this game again and see if I can complete it
And good thing because Mike's annoyance brings down the video as usual
I love how James transitioned from "this game ain't that bad" to "FUCK THIS GAME!"
+SethBlizzard I ROFLMFAO'ed
This is one of the best JMM episodes. So much better when James likes a game and is really dialed in.
Three things you must know to survive this game:
1) you have to light all of the fireplaces with the same counselor
2) you dodge by holding DOWN and pressing LEFT or RIGHT
3) you can switch counselors by pressing START in a small cabin
It's sort of strange how ambitious this game is.
Kish Jugo You get it.
It was about as clear as he could have made it idk why mike was confused at all. Also i realize this is years late dont judge
yeah, but
it's still LJN
Ambitious isn't the right word to describe this piece of shit. There is absolutely nothing impressive about it, except how much it blows.
Brilliant game. You needed patience to figure a lot of stuff out. But once you did, it was an amazing game involving a lot of strategy. I'm not surprised James liked it after he spent time on it... if he'd spent more time he'd like it even more.
There's actually a reason why Most characters with black outfits were purple on the NES. You couldn't really do characters with mostly black outfits well with the nes color palette, not to mention they might blend in with the background. So that's why.
+Suika Ibuki Disappointing they didn't mention that. But that's more of a comic book thing than a movie thing.
I’m 5 years late, but that’s pretty obvious
I always assumed it was a fax machine issue
I remember playing this in a dark room late at night with the volume on the tv turned way up and eating pizza with my friends. Damn those were some good times playing Nintendo! The music in this game takes me back to that time. I will remember it even when I'm old and laying in my death bed. Thanks James and Mike for these videos.
I have a similar memory with me and my cousins. Except we were playing Shadowgate.
I actually want him to kill Jason just so I can see his reaction to finding out that you have to kill him 2 more times.
oh my god...
Not even worth the trouble. I beat it with a game genie. Just got tired of fooling with it.
@@Thebestfamilycool I can beat this game in under 8 mins. It's easy.
@@subzero8679 you have my respect I can't complete the in that amount of time
@@gregbethscheider5912 it took a lot of practice lol. Many years. It's no easy feat. There are people that can do it in 4 mins or less though, so I'm nowhere near the record.
This is my favourite james and mike monday episode. James really explains the game in such an interesting way
That he does
Couple things: Using the NES Max controller makes dodging Jason way easier, Mark and Chrissy are the fastest characters, so use them to scout better weapons which you immediately trade off to the slower characters, then let Mark and Chrissy keep the torches. The cave and the woods are a waste of time if you actually want to beat the game, and Jason appears way more often at night--if you let him kill the kids, he'll kill them five at a time, if he kills them all, the game's over--so save those "fuck the kids" moments until night three.
+Ally G You don't even need to scout for weapons there's a trick to get the match weapon which is the best weapon in the game from the start on day 1. I get it for Mark and Chrissy, then when day 2 comes have mark get the sweater and become my Jason hunter while Chrissy is my number two in case Mark dies, when day three comes you want to try to deal as much damage to Jason as you can outside.
Another tip is the moment you select the counselor you want to start the game, from start to finish the game runs in a pattern which can be memorized to make the game easier.
@@WeaponXYZ Mark can wear the sweater ?
@@kcsnipes Any counselor can wear the sweater, just have to beat Pamela Voorhees floating head on day two
I like how you can actually see James slowly turning into the AVGN in this video.
Indeed that does work pretty well
tbh this game is kind of a "survival horror" before that was really a common genre
Not really at all
this is amazing, this is easily one of my favorite james & mike mondays. the determination, the analysis, the tape on the TV. stunning.
This game used to scare the shit out of me.
Same here, man! I want to like your comment, but.... 69 likes! I'll revisit this video when it's at 70 then I'll like and make it 71. Contributing my part to get it to 420.
I liked and its only 107
This game gets a bad rap (and for the map it's well deserved), but I really loved it as a kid. I truly felt like he was stalking me, and when it all came down to the wire, naturally, you were stuck as the slow chubby kid with no throwing power, and shit went insane. I'd end up lost in a cave or out on the lake with night closing in, one kid left, campers crying out for help in every direction. The music would get stuck in my head and even though I dreaded it, I looked forward to playing this game with a friend, handing off the controller and wondering just how in the hell far we'd get this time. It was a shoddily made game, but damn if it wasn't fun in the right circumstances. Good times. And of course we can finally BE Jason in the new game, and get our revenge at last.
it isn't that bad of the game. Mike and James didn't understand how to play until well into half of the video and even then they didn't fully get it. By then they were already frustrated with it.
James gets it fine. James kind of likes this game. Its Mike that doesnt. Just because Mike is a narcissist and stole all the energy don't think James is the same person.
let's be honest, this game is really shit at explaining the mechanics to the player
@@IncoherentMoron it is. But it isn't as bad as the rep it's gotten over the years.
I really like this game as a kid it was great and really different from most of what was out
I honestly don't understand the complaints about navigation on the main trails and lake. If you consider where the camera is shooting from, everything makes complete sense. Maybe not in the caves and forest, but the others are not that hard. Especially someone who is a filmmaker.
For real. I don't understand all the confusion. You're still heading in the same direction. The only time it's sort of, mildly confusing is when you leave a cabin and forget which side of the map you're on, but even that's pretty easy to figure out.
Philip Baker Yeah I know, the direction you are going is relative to your view, not to the map; I don't know why Mike is having a hard time understanding that.
I find the best explanation is your perspective is always from the outside looking inward. No matter which way you turn the 'camera' follows you on the outside looking towards the centre.
CartridgeCanuck That's exactly how I imagined it.
CartridgeCanuck Unless you are in the lake, then it is a central pivoting camera angle.
Soooo many people talked shit about this game but I always loved it
One of my favorite episodes. I lost it when James say "This is bad!" when his character gets low health on the way to the boathouse.
I had a friend as a kid who could beat the game with just the rock. I thought he was nuts.
The original speedrunner type
I call bs, you have to hit him almost 500 times with the rock to beat him all three days. Day one is doable with the rock, but that would take forever to accomplish. Day two and three are way harder and day three you can barely get any hits because he moves so fast.
yeah thats BULLSHIT
Did you guys eat each other out
Did you guys pick each others asses and sniffed your fingers?
#1 - Get the knife!
#2 - GET THE KNIFE!
#3 - *GET THE KNIFE!!*
It's a dagger.
+j ho A dagger is a type of knife.
I know, derp, but the manual clearly says dagger.
You wanna cut steak with a plastic fork? No. Get the knife. They'd lock me up in an insane asylum! Get the knife! GET THE KNIFE!!
GurahkWeavile fuck that. Get the fucking torch
I've watched just about every Cinemassacre video and this is one of the best ones.
Honestly, I 100% agree with the way they did the map in this game. I'll explain:
They designed the game to be see less. The screen inky cuts away when you are switching paths. There are no loading zones when you are walking on the same path. So you can walk from one end of the camp to the other with no cuts or breaks in the action.
So with this in mind, look at the map and just imagine that when you are at the bottom of the screen, the camera -- your viewpoint -- is located just South of you looking inward towards you, facing northward. Now walk right/east around the camp. When you get to the far right side of the map where the path curves northward, the camera -- your viewpoint -- never switches which side of the path it is on. It is still on the outside looking inward, so when you head rightward on the screen once the path curves northward, you are heading northward on the map.
Now think about when you get to the top of the map and the path curves back westward. Once again, the camera -- your viewpoint -- has still not switched which side of the path it is looking towards you from. It is still looking inwards towards you, meaning that it is facing southward. So when you head right on the screen, you are actually heading west, therefore you are moving left in the screen.
The stage backgrounds even match this. When you are on the north side of the lake, for example, the screen is still looking at you with the lake in the background. It does not show the plain grass in the other side of the path instead.
Therefore, it would actually be *_incorrect_* for the map to work any other way than the way they had it work in this game and is the reason why I agree with this mechanic 100%.
I seriously don't understand why people don't grasp this design.
Doing it in any other way would be none sensical...
It makes you wonder if most players are not paying attention to the background in games.
macgeek2004 it's like inverted controls on an fps, they make sense if you break it down but most people just can't be bothered to take the time
It's really simple: Just look at what's in the background. Too many dumdums.
+Jt Money I've written as much text trying to explain how _mirrors_ work, so I don't agree with your line of reasoning at all. The map system in this game certainly requires you to stop and think, but it _does_ make sense, following its own rules consistently.
@@SiGhast I imagine he doesn't read all that much if that's his honest complaint.
Once you get what to do in this game, it's much easier. The torch will save your ass. The only place I never really mess with are the secret areas in the woods. This game was definitely creepy when I was a kid, and it still is, but that's what makes it awesome.
The reason the map is "broken" is because its actually not broken at all.
Its because they only wanted to program as few background screens as possible. This means that the backround is always the lake, the mountain or the forest.
Basically if you always want the background to be the lake (and make it feel like you are going around the lake,) then the top parts of the map will make it seem like you are traveling backwards.
This could be fixed by making things mirrored on the top(play probably wouldnt notice). but this was back in old games so they probably didnt realize how confusing it would feel until it was too late to bother fixing.
its mainly because you are using paths of a top down map and applying them to a side view. It can confuse you.
Beating this game and Winnie the pooh home run derby are the highlights of my gaming career.
Sean Puffynipples If you couldn't tell from me adding "Winnie the pooh home run derby" it was sarcasm.
Sean Puffynipples Lol. I make that mistake a lot.
+Marshall Shilling it took me years to beat day 3 of this game. So proud to say I finally did a few times now. Holy shit is this game tough without knowing "the patterns"
I can’t believe how calming watching this can be.. I sat through this 42 min video more times than I care to count
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Shut in, much?
I don't understand the Internet comment jackals. Neither of them proclaim to be experts. The whole point is to watch them try to tackle difficult games. Sometimes they don't. And Mike is part of the whole deal so I don't understand the negativity towards him. Just don't watch the channel. Isn't James a dad? Doubt he's got the time to make AVGN episodes that he used to. I dig all your content guys. Keep it up.
myarkyarks because Mike is a negative unfun, narcissist.
In order to get any items, each character must:
1) Kill a few zombies to get the lighter
2) Then jump around in certain general areas for the knife, key and potion to appear
3) Kill a bunch of zombies to get a machete to appear (optional)
4) To get the torch - Each character must require the lighter, knife, key, read two notes, light five fireplaces
5) To find the two notes that are in the cabins with fireplace: One at the lower-left corner of the lake, one at the most north from the cave. Note: you must read them that tells you to go to the cabins
6) Light all fireplaces to get the flashlight
7)A note that tells you to find the torch is located in the fireplace cabin at the most east in the middle of the map
8) The torch is located in the fireplace cabin north of the lake after completing "step 4"
9) Killing Jason's mom gives items: Day 1 - Machete, Day 2 - Sweater, Day 3 - Pitchfork
10) Axes are located in cabins in the woods, but don't bother getting them
That's it in the nutshell, the rest is killing Jason. Good luck.
This could scratch off something I haven’t done in 30 years. 😮
I have beaten him on day 1 but I didn't have the attention span to do 2 or 3.
To be fair
How the fuck is the average kid in the 80s supposed to know to do that
@@thedarknight307 Nintendo power. The Nintendo internet of the 80's. And word of mouth from friends. I beat the game back in the day. Hard as hell. Then I see speed runners these days beating the game like it's nothing. Crazy as fuck.
what does the sweater do?
Now I need to see a sprite edit of Jason in Punch-Out
"My parents didn't let me watch the movies. It wasn't the violence, it was the nudity" - American logic
lol
boner is more illegal than spilling blood i guess lol
Kazz Kobb especially mikes boner
Also 70% of American commercials are way more violent compared to European
"My parents only let me shower once a week. They said it would over soil my armpit hair."
- European women.
this and the metroid playthrough are some of my favorite james & mike mondays episodes. love when james gets serious with trying to beat a game.
For some reason this video is comforting to me. A kid down the street owned this game and I was always fascinated with the movies as a kid. I can still remember the image of this game sitting on the shelf at Shoprite in the rental section. Ahhh nostalgia, nothing like it
I'm jealous of the epic physical media collection in the background.
Was there a reason James decided to have Mark kneel over while Jason rushed towards him? Mark has great jump control, and can bunnyhop over Jason thus evading his attacks. Also I know this video is over a year old, but some characters have better attributes than others as evident when they discovered that Mark is one of 2 of the fastest characters in the game (Chrissy being the other one). While other characters are slower, they do have redeeming qualities and if placed in strategic locations can be effective against keeping Jason at bay.
Hey hey, I found someone else who knows this game as much as I do. I say focus on keeping Mark and Crissy alive, and let the others die. One thing I did was use the other characters as bait to get better weapons, like the machete, and I'd pass it off to Mark and Crissy. Then I'd use them. Also, getting the sweater is important. If you can get the torch, even better, but thats rare. I got it ONE time. Killed Jason pretty quickly though.
Kids these days have no idea how easy todays games are compared to what people who grew up playing nes games.
Dollar Junior Coz they don't wanna know shitty games.
Beta testing wasn't a thing. In fact, I don't think they even played through. They were just like "coding coding coding, and done!"
You sound like an 80 year old, please stop. This game and many others were just as broken and rushed as the new "shit" games like Unity. Why would we want horriblyy difficult games when the feeling of success is the fun in it?
Made us into fucking tigers!
They may not have a clue about these games, but that doesn't stop them from complaining about their representation in those game ;D
This is not a bad game, this is a difficult game. The music is great, there's real suspense to save those damn kids and the other camp counselors, you have Jason popping up out of nowhere to scare the shit out of you, there's multiple endings, a map screen that was accurate with a slight learning curve, great day to night transition, characters that had different characteristics, and even primitive 3D elements in the houses where Jason pops up and again scares the living crap out of you. Great game, glad I had it when I was a kid.
Thank you! This is by no means a terrible game. It sure has it's issues, but once you learn how to play it (which would be simple if you had the instructions), then it's MUCH easier.
I always used to be the only person actually defending the original Turtles on the NES, it's my favourite of the NES turtle games simply because I prefer platformers over beat'm ups, I loved the gameplay, the level design and especially the music. Glad to see Mike feeling the same way or at the very least that he does like it. It's just like Shaq Fu, most people never even played these and others are just hating on the games because 'famous' people are hating on them. I always used to defend a lot of LJN games until you guys made the video actually saying they did have some great games and only then others were starting to say it too. I always hate that online sheep mentality, so many people are just too afraid to like certain games, it's pretty messed up not to have your own opinions. Either way loving the mini Monster Madness thing going on now!
RetroDeath I agree. I also hate the sheep mentality when people are just hating on the games because 'famous' people are hating on them.I like this game and TMNT, as well as a couple others that the AVGN reviewed.
*****
Yeah I know what you mean.
I definitely preferred TMNT 2: The Arcade Game and TMNT 3: The Manhattan Project over TMNT. Obviously, they looked better and played smoother. They were more beat 'em up which played itself better to TMNT. They actually features characters from the series. Plus TMNT had some god awful platforming sequences. All that said...I still have a place in my heart for the original.
RetroDeath i agree with the hate of stupid sheep mentality ya see i actually grew up late 80's early 90's and played these games an this ones still shit today to me does it mean i wont collect it no but i wont play it much unless i feel like torturing myself as i occasionally do cuz im odd like that shrug yes i play shit games and hard as fuck games to torture myself on occassion call it a sick pleasure lol
I really liked TMNT as well. It was a bit more challenging than it needed to be and I never came close to beating it, but other than that, I thought it was a great game.
I had Friday the 13th back in the day as well and I don't think it's as bad as they let on either. It certainly wasn't a great game and had some flaws, but I did play it more than once or twice. (I think I beat it once.) It's alright.
I don't understand how they can find the map system so confusing, it's just basic spatial reasoning. You just use what you see in the background to orient yourself on the map. Completely logical?
God I can't believe how little they get the map movement. It's a board game and you're looking at it from the outside of the map inward. That explains the whole movement perfectly. You have to imagine yourself sitting around each side of the board looking inward at it and moving.
OMG I love these videos!
Made my Monday!
Thank you guys!
🙄
You have to jump to find keys, health, and knives.....
If that is true, how is anyone supposed to know that? -Mike
It's just a matter of playing it over an over again....some knowledge, is not always known by Nintendo Power...
Chuck Lambert Haha. Well, Nintendo power rarely had any good information. But for any first time player, I think you can see why it'd be hard to know to do that. -Mike
Of course!! I agree....Nintendo Power helped matters from time to time, but on some of the most obvious things to mention to gamers about certain games, they often dropped the ball.
Keys appear at certain spots of the map, Health appears randomly when you jump (but more so in the forest) and the knife appears randomly when you kill a zombie
James: Don't kill me.
Jason: (Holds up Friday The 13th on NES)
James: (Silence for 2 seconds) Kill me.
Someone should make a ROM hack of this game that fixes its flaws.
What flaws? if they had the manual they'd know what to do and once you do.this is 20min at best. Of all of ljn trash this is prolly the only game that is related to the movies.
The key not appearing is cause they were just camping a spot and something had spawned already In that zone . Jason takes a ton of regular hits or go into the woods and get the torch and hes down in 4 hits. NES games really needed the manuals to know what's up.
3:25 They're also making the nes Godzilla a dark turquoise, and has pixels all around the figure. The extra large fin is included
Fun fact for the day,
This game was developed by Atlus
would explain the bullshit difficulty
So Jason is a persona?
Well Dante was a recruitable character in SMT Nocturne so Atlus isn't afraid to do crossovers
No, it was developed by Pack-In-Video.
Citation needed? By everything I can see, the game was made by a company called Pack-In-Video Games. The only ties to Atlus I can see are that it randomly appears on the Games Developed by Atlus page on Wikipedia (even though clicking on the link to the game page, Atlus isn't mentioned even once in the entire page), and the page referenced that cites them as a developer is just a Gamefaqs page just just put Atlus there as the dev without any other proof.
Love this episode! The way they try to figure the game out combined with the fact that the game itself isn't completely broken makes it really entertaining to watch. This game is clearly not good, but it's because of lots of minor flaws rather than some huge major issue that ruins the experience.
Exactly. It's a combination of minor flaws instead of one major flaw. Glad you enjoyed the episode. -Mike
Also, Jason doesn't go away if he's close to dying himself, I believe.
***** You are correct.
Maybe...but its if YOU are close to dying. This guy's video explains it perfectly down to a science. WELL WORTH THE WATCH. watch?v=Mcq9YGG6vVA
u can beat him anytime, its just matters by your weapon u have, rock sucks ass, knife is decent, u need the pitch fork to own his ass fast, only way u get it is killing his mom in the forest ruins.
kyotheman69 That's all well and good, but you're missing the entire point I was making.
I don't know how so many people don't know that if a counselor is being attacked, you can go into any small cabin and then switch to the victim and fight Jason as the victim.
I Finally beat this game tonight!!!!!
I've been playing this on-and-off for over 25 years, and everything seems like second nature to me. It's odd to see people having difficulty at it. Yes, I don't know all of the tricks like the speedrunners, but it's not THAT bad of a game. One trick that James and Mike didn't mention is switching counselors in the small cabins to get Jason outside for a battle. Also, lighter > fireplaces > flashlight. The torch is through some chain of events between the larger lakeside cabins and the one in the woods.
I've even heard (I've been playing on-and-off for 18 years) that hitting Jason outside hurts him more than inside the cabins, and it proves successful for me! Though I've never beaten the third day...
It does the same damage but you can hit him over and over unlike inside the cabins, and after you land the necesarry hits to drive him away you can hit him 3 o 4 extra times...
Yup yup yup to all that you've mentioned!
Gaming in general isn't hard, stop trashtalking them. You are good at games you played for a long time, it is not about being good or being bad at them, it is about how much time you have to kill. It would help if you played similar games to the one you are trying to beat, but in reality, each one is its own story. James probably didn't have time.
DLJBFan2009 you should definitely check out if you haven't already Lord Kayoss he showed that not is this game not all that bad but he shows it can be completed and he killed Jason on the 3rd day with a female counselor to me was badass
I keep re-watching this episode for some reason lol. I love this one. Ya'll are hilarious
Mike: I can't do it, therefore it sucks!
Logic!
Bullshit. He and James clearly say why they think the game sucks.
"Jason's mom is in the cave."
"Jason's mom is in the cave?"
"Jason's mom is in the cave."
Every time I hear this exchange I laugh
me: "So what you're saying is, Jason's mom is in the cave?"
Geez, fellas! I remember it took me as a kid like 10 seconds to comprehend that right-left on a map.. and you can't get it as an adults?! Seriously?
James and Mike, you help make Mondays less of a steaming pile of shit. That's probably the biggest compliment anyone can say about Monday, so, thanks for these videos. I appreciate all the hard work that goes into them.
Can somebody make a Friday the 13th Redacted that fixes all the bullshit
ToruKun1
I`m on it... but i`m as good as the almightyguru so don`t expect too much...
@@omegarugal9283 lol Did you get on with that project?
Charlie1234500 did he?
@@poopooodoodie5929 *shrugs
@@omegarugal9283 Progress?
I can see how James gave this game a 2nd look. It seems like it could've been good or had potential to be good but it just doesn't meet the standards. It certainly was unique in it's own right. It's still better than Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is one of the handful of games James actually hates, compared to other games he's reviewed as The Nerd.
This video dropped less than a month after a close family member died tragically and unexpectedly. This video brought me quite a bit of comfort, and I thank you.
I got this for my 12th birthday, and had no idea what to do. I was able to figure some things out, except how to get Jason outside. I finally beat him when I was 14.
Heh, those action figures of the NES versions of Jason and Freddy look very nice and clever for sure. :D
This was one of my favorite NES games. Once you understand what it is you need to do, it's not that hard. It's mostly just the navigation is hard.
This is my favorite J&MM. I remember the orthodontist my older sisters went to had this game in the waiting area and I'd try to play it every time we went. I could never figure out what to do. Granted, I was 7-8 years old.
Soo... How many times did you punch your sisters in the mouth hoping they had to get their teeth straightened out?
Not sure if any of this info is on the directions you had but here's a few other tips for beating this game.
1 Stand on the right side of the n in Jason's name when fighting him, stay still and doge and he has a hard time hitting you.
2 Use Mike and Crissy to get the others a knife by going around and passing the weapon.
3 Leave all but those 2 in the cabins next to the lake to switch to when he attacks the children.
4 Whenever you can, use the cure option with the medicine bottles rather then running out of life, it will heal you more and let you continue to collect them with Mike and Crissy. Also you can't cure yourself, it only works when you walk in a cabin with another counselor in and heal the one there.
5 Getting the Torch is not needed, it's something to do while waiting for Jason attacks, but you can get a machete at random and it's far better.
The main thing is to learn how to fight Jason and manage the lake to make this game a lot more manageable.
19:02 - Mike: "...but they didn't do that because this is a terrible game."
The look Mike gives James when he says that was priceless.
James's knowledge of this shitty game is stunning...
At 9:57 Mike's face perfectly describes his opinion on the game. It's priceless XD.
23:33 That music reminds me of Link's Awakening...
What's funny is that it's all there in the manual, it tells you about the Jason alarm and that when he is attacking a counselor you can either reach the cabin OR switch to that counselor directly, beating zombies to find more powerful items, counselors having diferent stats, leaving the slower counselors around the lake and use the faster ones to scout all over for items, getting the torch, the sweater, trading items to other counselorsm potions appearing more often in the woods etc. While certain mechanics are more cryptic/not mentioned (like having to jump to find more items) most of the stuff is all there in the manual. Also Pro Tip: If you are outside and you see the monsters running out off the screen is because Jason is coming, quickly change screens/go inside a building to avoid him, if you fought Jason outside wait a little bit before going inside a cabin/changing screens outside since you have a high chance to find him again (Like what happened to Mike at the start of the video). If you fought him inside a Cabin wait a bit before going out or switch to another counselor.
But yeah I agree despite all these flaws I really liked this game, it gave a nice vibe of being creepy and keeping you on your toes without knowing when Jason would strike, was the best they could do to adapt a slasher film to the NES, really wish we had a 16 bit version.
Talking about 16 bit have you player Clock Tower on the SNES? it was famicom only but to my knowledge it was the only true horror game on the console.
The best way to describe the movement on the world map is to imagine that the camera is on the character, but is always facing the center where the lake is as it moves around the outside of the circle.
I love the music 🎶 in this game...It’s so eerie and mysterious.
All you have to do is use the lake for a reference on which direction you're going! It's not that hard, is it? D:
I always thought this game's music sounded an awful lot like Xexyz, so I looked it up and it turns out that both games had the same composer, Hirohiko Takayama. Pretty neat.
Important obscure rules - in a smaller cabin you can change counselors to play at different smaller cabins throughout the camp. (this is an important rule you learned halfway through your playthrough)
when you scroll to the right or left it's actually clockwise/counter clockwise (important paddling the lake).
You have to light some fireplaces in larger cabins to get a note to a torch location.
You have to crouch when throwing rocks (shitty weapon anyway)
When Jason has approximately 1/3 health he will fight you until one of you is dead without fleeing. The 2nd and 3rd day should restore all health to all counselors unless they died.
I still don't know how to navigate the cave or woods.
An extremely difficult game which I may have beaten years ago on a emulator, I can't remember but I would've had to cheat and practice a lot to do that.
My great grandmother had an NES for all the kids to play when they came over but this and Super Mario Bros. 3 were the only games she bought. The NES was at the top of the stairs in this creepy hall and I remember not even wanting to go up there because I was so scared of this game.
Had a nes*
There. I fixed it for you. 🙄
you have to keep jumping for the key.
Jumping is the key to getting items in this one yes.....
You guys should totally check out the hacked version of this called "Freddy vs Jason" where you play as Jason.
Love seeing how natural this video was, from optimism, to anger, to logic, to fuck this game. I've followed those steps many times in some of the harder games and I was looking forward to seeing it beaten, but that look on your faces was so familiar to me I feel it was a nice ending
I had SO MUCH fun with the C64 version of Friday the 13th.
It was very simplistic. Basically pick a character, wander around a huge map, find a weapon you like, and try to find Jason. He's disguised as one of your friends. When you hit them, if they're actually Jason, they'll change for a second before the disguise pops up again. You basically just keep hunting him down. If he runs, he'll change disguises.
Yes! Im not sure it was actually meant as a Friday the 13th game but a fun whodunnit style game.
Classic Episode. James and Mike Mondays is a super fun, longtime running series. Over 4 years have past as of the time I post this here. Think about it. What a mighty series this has been. Soooo many episodes. What a wonderful library of episodes! I'm sucha huge fan! 😱 (p.s. I loved this game growing up. I was really good at this game. My favorite character in the game to use is, Mark. lol. Mark Rules)
I'm happy to hear James actually likes this game. It really has great and creepy atmosphere if you play it alone in dim light, kinda similar feel to Fester's Quest or maybe Zombies Ate My Neighbor or even Splatter House.
23:33 Only way this video could have been any better if it was totally dark room with only candle lighting or something.
Ya I actually really do like this game. I remember playing it around Halloween as a kid and loved the music/atmosphere and loved how it would turn from day to dusk/night/dawn... I find the graphics appealing (and decent for the time)...
The original "GET THE KNIFE!" game.
This game was scary AF
23:33 probably my favorite part of any James Rolfe video ever. I always got freaked out at that part as a kid
Maybe bad, but glad you guys had fun with it.
Probably the best LJN nes game
I prefer Elm Street, U can avoid fighting Freddy in that!
The navigation in this game is actually really straight forward and clever for a side scrolling 2D game, creating a whole landscape from the restraints of the NES. The rest of the game is shit, but that one aspect of it is kinda impressive.
The only thing is, they should have added a compass in one of the corners so that you realize which way is North, West, East and South on the map when you walk around. Considering the navigation is basically just along a horizontal and vertical grid, the compass would simply turn 90 degrees whenever you pass a corner and go from the vertical to the horizontal etc. That solves it.
The trials of classic gaming! Hahaha.
Weird, im watching this on Friday the 13th 2019..... oOooOoOOOOoo
Simple tricks:
1) Enter a cabin and switch counselors when Jason is in their cabin.
2) Ignore the cave.
3) Power every counselor to get a torch and hunt Jason down.
Love these Monday game sessions this is what gaming shud be about
I honestly like this game it's plagued by bad bits but there's something about it that's fun and I don't know what it is...
Its called charm.
...ALWAYS START WITH MARK!!
Laura is ok too. The rest suck.
I really wanted to watch you beat this, but it was very entertaining nonetheless.
It's not often when James has to be the one to show these games what's up lol. These videos are awesome! Thanks for this and all the great content
10:27 to be honest, I'm surprised we didn't get a Friday the 13th cartoon. Those were different times indeed.
the battle of Jason's Mom (13:15) reminds me of Tong Shau Ping in Hong Kong 97 o_o
It's just a head!
Any game he can't beat he thinks is terrible.
this is a game that I know wasnt great..but I loved it so much as a kid in the 80s that I despise hearing any negative talk about it
Comparing Mike Tysons Punch Out to Friday the 13th is like comparing a Bentley to a bumper car!
Every time I hear the Jason Alarm, it reminds me of "Ain't Love Grand" by Atreyu