yep, and there are auto-choke designs, it should not be hard to make the choke normally on and then the engine running releases it to the off or open position. All just mechanically...
Good to note:. Noticed he put in a delay on timer when power is lost. This is important so if power flicker on and off the gen doesn't try to start. Also good to set up an off delay timer for the reverse of this to ensure the power has actually returned. Just be sure you don't back feed power 😝
I absolutely love it! I have the exact same generator. I am looking forward to purchase this remote starter from you! Keep up the good work! Following you from 🇨🇦!
thought I was the only one geeking out lol. I have the HGN4020N panel, likely the same unit as yours. Controlling a WEN 8750 inverter generator out in a shed. Mounted the panel in a hobby box. Did have to install a timer relay to shut choke off at first but I dont need it anymore. Originally I was using aux 1 output (pin 7) set as fuel pump to energize the choke relay but deleted it an now running the choke off the crank terminal. But did have to install toggle switch to turn off the choke for hot starts. Are you using any other sensors on the air cooled motor? Cylinder head temp? Tachometer pickup? and CT's to take advantage of the current read out on the display? I thought I'd go one step further and installing a reed style fuel level sensor to tell me fuel level in the house . I am impressed with the smartgen panel. i'ts pretty powerful.
Just a little update, I have to implement a choke bypass for the times a choke isn't required after the first crank such as in cold weather conditions.
Great video and thank you for sharing. You will be a wealthy man if you can convert your setup in to an all in one automatic transfer switch like they have for the standby people. I feel they left us portable people out of the loop with the auto transfer switches. They are charging massive amounts of money for the auto switches plus for the same concept you just did in this video.
I've got a solar generator trailer I've made on a small scale. And my issue is that when warm it doesn't need choked and when it comes on during cranking it won't start till I disconnect the choke solenoid. I have roughly the same controller shown here.
okay this isnt ready for sharing, youre designing and chatting about your whole life history and great to see this but share when its put together, willya! This is development work. Not presentation quality. Thanks again. We need this. Looking forward. Actually there should be a choke setup possible where the running lets the choke off and no control is needed for the choke. Something centrifugal or exhaust powered..Then we just need a remote close the circuit control.
Great work. Please consider for hybrid system for next project with battery, inverter, and charger. so the generator run at its peak efficiency to charge the battery and cycling on and off between battery charge level.
Hi Jon! Can you show the model and number of the auto gen-start module and all the wire connection to? In my case, i have a brand new westinghouse generator but the StSwitch made by them is not working with my year production.
Hi Jon, I’ve been following your videos on the generator controller. You are very knowledgeable in this regard. I have a new unboxed Firman 10KW generator T08071 which I would like to add this remote feature. Your videos shows that it can be done, however it does not give me all the information I need to complete the project. It would be nice if you can provide your viewers with a circuit diagram of the setup and a link where these items can be obtained. It appears like some folks are waiting for you to make a “finished product” for sale, that’s okay, but for me I would prefer to assemble the components myself. Also, do you have a schematic of the generator circuitry? Thanks.
Congratulations, excellent work. Where can you get the controller module? I am interested in making my black max generator with an automatic honda engine. I am interested in the model of the controller please. I want to do something similar.
I have the same generator with a Honeywell auto transfer switch, SR2B121BD SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC controller and the same door lock actuator. Do you use reverse power output to the actuator to make it dual acting ? My actuators don't spring return..
I'm just doing a simple remote start/kill/choke on mine with a cheap wireless relay board. The car door lock actuator everyone is using doesn't have enough throw and I didn't think it was possible to use on my Champion 9375 watt that uses the same choke lever as yours. Your engine and linkage look just like my Champion and I'm wondering how you mounted that actuator like that. Did you use the bracket that came with the actuator? Looks like you just mounted the bracket using the one bolt on the motor. After I saw your vid I was trying to figure out where to mount it on mine but there's only that one bolt and linkage in the way. What did you attach the bracket to?
I used the included bracket which I bent into an L shaped to reach that engine bolt, I did have a few brackets laying arround so I was able to play with this. Remember when using these actuators that you cannot maintain power to them for more than a few seconds at a time before they actually fail from overheating.
@@jonsgarage3859 Thanks bud. I set mine up just like you had it from what I could see. Unfortunately this actuator I bought off Amazon only moves the choke about 1/3 of the way. The way you set it up gives it enough throw but just doesn't have enough power on mine. I need something better I guess. Mine is a momentary relay so no worries about burning it up.
Can I get a parts list for this? As in controller module, arduino module etc? Also I’d like to add a temperature control function as in freezer temp for auto start. I know OF arduino but not HOW to arduino. Any resource would be appreciated . Thanks
This specific controller is a Smartgen HGM420M, I purchased this because I like the interface amd display, there is cheaper options available from the "Mebay" brand which also work fantastic and are built tough. If you don't need the schedule start feature, you can find a contoller such as the Mebay DC20D Mark2, I have two for sale on eBay, if intested. And as a reminder, these controllers are not plug-and-play, they have to be configured and external relays have to be installed on the generator side, you also have to set up an actuator mechanism of some sort. www.ebay.ca/itm/DC20D-MKII-Genset-Controller-Upgrade-for-Diesel-Gasoline-Engine-Generator-/265398550193?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=706-127636-26712-0
Hi Jon I have a firman T08071 and I have installed the smart Gen controller just as you did on yours. I also installed a choke actuator. Do you have your choke connected to the smart Gen controller? If so where did you connect it to? What function are you using in the smart Gen controller? Other then that mine starts and stops with no issues. I just can’t figure out how you got the choke to come on
Hi! Thanks for your interest and I'm glad to hear that you guys are starting a project of your own! The actuator has to be controlled by a set of relays that invert the voltage for the choke-on and choke-off action, the relay setup also has to cut the power to the actuator when it isn't in use or the actuator will quickly fail if it doesn't have built-in limit switches to turn it's motor off when it reaches it's limit. I don't have my wiring schematics with me at the moment as I'm at work, but you can reachout to me at jonsgarage69@gmail.com for more info!
I also have a T07571, but mine is hooked to Natural Gas. I have found that mine is a bit tricky to get going, with either gasoline, propane or Natural Gas. I have to "play" with the choke and it takes a few attempts to make it happen. Can you suggest a solution?
I don't have a full list yet, but the controller is a Smartgen HGM420N, there are many other option available depending on the features you want. Check out the "Mebay DC20D MK2" for an inexpensive controller with basic features. Here is one I'm selling, but remember they are NOT plug and play. www.ebay.ca/itm/DC20D-MKII-Genset-Controller-Upgrade-for-Diesel-Gasoline-Engine-Generator-/265398550193?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=706-127636-26712-0
If I was you I make in a box with magnets that cling to the frame. And make female click connect on the box male that attaches to generator battery. Did you connected to a trip switch on the side can’t tell I’m a Electrician 2 let me know if you selling a kit. I used a contractor monitor though a k contractor . Or maybe a Napco relay board. You can control up to 9 relays at once. Great video. The internet sell Napco relay boards way to much buy at your local alarm supply way cheaper.
@@lts30000 absolutely 1000% , you can have this controller flip it for you after a preset warmup period, although you will have to mount a powerfull actuator to transfer switch, or have this connected to an approved automatic transfer switch
Nice try on the video but, that is a mess. Sorry , but you should have had all your components and do a trial run before the video turns to be not so good. It’s definitely a prototype so I will pass. Your almost there and you just need to wrap it up, get everything programmed, installed in boxes, etc.
Yeah I really made sure to state that it's was an early stage prototype lol, it is infact quite a mess. You can see how much cleaner my panel looks all boxed up in the other video on my channel. th-cam.com/video/KRJTalp_RZU/w-d-xo.html
Handling the choke lever on the carb is the biggest hurdle, been looking at everyone's stuff to see how they over come it lol great vid 👍
yep, and there are auto-choke designs, it should not be hard to make the choke normally on and then the engine running releases it to the off or open position. All just mechanically...
Hello, I know that posted this 3 years ago, have you finalized the setup?
Good to note:. Noticed he put in a delay on timer when power is lost. This is important so if power flicker on and off the gen doesn't try to start. Also good to set up an off delay timer for the reverse of this to ensure the power has actually returned. Just be sure you don't back feed power 😝
I absolutely love it! I have the exact same generator. I am looking forward to purchase this remote starter from you! Keep up the good work! Following you from 🇨🇦!
thought I was the only one geeking out lol.
I have the HGN4020N panel, likely the same unit as yours. Controlling a WEN 8750 inverter generator out in a shed. Mounted the panel in a hobby box. Did have to install a timer relay to shut choke off at first but I dont need it anymore. Originally I was using aux 1 output (pin 7) set as fuel pump to energize the choke relay but deleted it an now running the choke off the crank terminal. But did have to install toggle switch to turn off the choke for hot starts.
Are you using any other sensors on the air cooled motor? Cylinder head temp? Tachometer pickup? and CT's to take advantage of the current read out on the display? I thought I'd go one step further and installing a reed style fuel level sensor to tell me fuel level in the house . I am impressed with the smartgen panel. i'ts pretty powerful.
Did you make these for sale yet? I have a duel fuel 3k at my cabin. i need this for low battery/inverter auto start.
Just a little update, I have to implement a choke bypass for the times a choke isn't required after the first crank such as in cold weather conditions.
What was the cost to do all that
Great video and thank you for sharing. You will be a wealthy man if you can convert your setup in to an all in one automatic transfer switch like they have for the standby people. I feel they left us portable people out of the loop with the auto transfer switches. They are charging massive amounts of money for the auto switches plus for the same concept you just did in this video.
You are a very good geek Guy to do and set all this stuff😅👍
Excellent! Can I purchase this remote system from you please ? Thanks
This is very interesting, is there any way you can share your wiring diagram and part list. Amazing work
I've got a solar generator trailer I've made on a small scale. And my issue is that when warm it doesn't need choked and when it comes on during cranking it won't start till I disconnect the choke solenoid. I have roughly the same controller shown here.
volume is low, will use headphones. I also want to convert mine and great to see your work.
okay this isnt ready for sharing, youre designing and chatting about your whole life history and great to see this but share when its put together, willya! This is development work. Not presentation quality. Thanks again. We need this. Looking forward. Actually there should be a choke setup possible where the running lets the choke off and no control is needed for the choke. Something centrifugal or exhaust powered..Then we just need a remote close the circuit control.
Great work. Please consider for hybrid system for next project with battery, inverter, and charger. so the generator run at its peak efficiency to charge the battery and cycling on and off between battery charge level.
Great Clip! Thanks for sharing. Can i get the specs of the add-on accessories?
Thanks for your video it's very helpful. Thanks again
Hi Jon! Can you show the model and number of the auto gen-start module and all the wire connection to? In my case, i have a brand new westinghouse generator but the StSwitch made by them is not working with my year production.
Can you share how you connected everything? How did you connect the main power(Grid Power) to the controller?
Hi Jon,
I’ve been following your videos on the generator controller. You are very knowledgeable in this regard. I have a new unboxed Firman 10KW generator T08071 which I would like to add this remote feature. Your videos shows that it can be done, however it does not give me all the information I need to complete the project. It would be nice if you can provide your viewers with a circuit diagram of the setup and a link where these items can be obtained. It appears like some folks are waiting for you to make a “finished product” for sale, that’s okay, but for me I would prefer to assemble the components myself. Also, do you have a schematic of the generator circuitry?
Thanks.
Thanks I’ll send you an email shortly
is it possible to have it too?
Congratulations, excellent work. Where can you get the controller module? I am interested in making my black max generator with an automatic honda engine. I am interested in the model of the controller please. I want to do something similar.
This system is currently operating off 120 volt but can one be designed to operate the same in an area where there is no access to electricity
I have the same generator with a Honeywell auto transfer switch, SR2B121BD SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC controller and the same door lock actuator.
Do you use reverse power output to the actuator to make it dual acting ? My actuators don't spring return..
I'm just doing a simple remote start/kill/choke on mine with a cheap wireless relay board. The car door lock actuator everyone is using doesn't have enough throw and I didn't think it was possible to use on my Champion 9375 watt that uses the same choke lever as yours. Your engine and linkage look just like my Champion and I'm wondering how you mounted that actuator like that. Did you use the bracket that came with the actuator? Looks like you just mounted the bracket using the one bolt on the motor. After I saw your vid I was trying to figure out where to mount it on mine but there's only that one bolt and linkage in the way. What did you attach the bracket to?
I used the included bracket which I bent into an L shaped to reach that engine bolt, I did have a few brackets laying arround so I was able to play with this. Remember when using these actuators that you cannot maintain power to them for more than a few seconds at a time before they actually fail from overheating.
@@jonsgarage3859 Thanks bud. I set mine up just like you had it from what I could see. Unfortunately this actuator I bought off Amazon only moves the choke about 1/3 of the way. The way you set it up gives it enough throw but just doesn't have enough power on mine. I need something better I guess. Mine is a momentary relay so no worries about burning it up.
Can I get a parts list for this? As in controller module, arduino module etc? Also I’d like to add a temperature control function as in freezer temp for auto start. I know OF arduino but not HOW to arduino. Any resource would be appreciated . Thanks
If I send you the schematics of my generator would you be able to tell me how to hook up this device to it
I’d like to buy that remote start kit from you. Where can I get it?
How did you get the Firman logo on the display?
Hi can show me, connections on the generator, like how it's connected
Good job! Would like to know what type of controller that is when you get a chance.
This specific controller is a Smartgen HGM420M, I purchased this because I like the interface amd display, there is cheaper options available from the "Mebay" brand which also work fantastic and are built tough. If you don't need the schedule start feature, you can find a contoller such as the Mebay DC20D Mark2, I have two for sale on eBay, if intested. And as a reminder, these controllers are not plug-and-play, they have to be configured and external relays have to be installed on the generator side, you also have to set up an actuator mechanism of some sort.
www.ebay.ca/itm/DC20D-MKII-Genset-Controller-Upgrade-for-Diesel-Gasoline-Engine-Generator-/265398550193?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=706-127636-26712-0
I have a troy bilt generator 7500 watts, can you please configure this for me and put it in a panel box, I will pay
Hi Jon I have a firman T08071 and I have installed the smart Gen controller just as you did on yours. I also installed a choke actuator. Do you have your choke connected to the smart Gen controller? If so where did you connect it to? What function are you using in the smart Gen controller? Other then that mine starts and stops with no issues. I just can’t figure out how you got the choke to come on
Hi! Thanks for your interest and I'm glad to hear that you guys are starting a project of your own! The actuator has to be controlled by a set of relays that invert the voltage for the choke-on and choke-off action, the relay setup also has to cut the power to the actuator when it isn't in use or the actuator will quickly fail if it doesn't have built-in limit switches to turn it's motor off when it reaches it's limit.
I don't have my wiring schematics with me at the moment as I'm at work, but you can reachout to me at jonsgarage69@gmail.com for more info!
Good work bro am trying to do the same thing is it possible for u to send me the products u used and a wiring diagram thanks
I have my Firman T07571 and have contacted an electrician. How soon can I get your controller and how much will it cost? Where are you located?
I have the same ge. Do you make these kits?
Well done! Are you able to share the part number of the controller you used?
Thanks for your interest, the controller is a Smartgen HGM420N
Can you help with the auto start I need and the diagram to do for my generator please
what parts are you using? there is not enough info to replicate or buy parts
I also have a T07571, but mine is hooked to Natural Gas. I have found that mine is a bit tricky to get going, with either gasoline, propane or Natural Gas. I have to "play" with the choke and it takes a few attempts to make it happen. Can you suggest a solution?
I saw something similar issue like your and the fix on that video is to turn on the propane slowly...
Damn your good !!
I love it but please can I have the wiring diagram
Are you selling any kits . ?
Where did you get the control panel for auto start
Online, aliexpress in my case, amazon also sells generator control panels.
Can you give a list of components?
I'll get down to that when I have fully completed and tested the system! Subscribe for a future video!
I don't have a full list yet, but the controller is a Smartgen HGM420N, there are many other option available depending on the features you want. Check out the "Mebay DC20D MK2" for an inexpensive controller with basic features. Here is one I'm selling, but remember they are NOT plug and play.
www.ebay.ca/itm/DC20D-MKII-Genset-Controller-Upgrade-for-Diesel-Gasoline-Engine-Generator-/265398550193?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=706-127636-26712-0
If I was you I make in a box with magnets that cling to the frame. And make female click connect on the box male that attaches to generator battery. Did you connected to a trip switch on the side can’t tell
I’m a Electrician 2 let me know if you selling a kit. I used a contractor monitor though a k contractor . Or maybe a Napco relay board. You can control up to 9 relays at once.
Great video.
The internet sell Napco relay boards way to much buy at your local alarm supply way cheaper.
What if the power comes back on?
It auto shut's off. I couldn't demonstrate this because I hadn't completed the shutdown feature yet. I will be making a new video soon enough.
Take a look at the description for a full list of features.
You still need the interlock breaker to be flipped, not to fry workers downline 💥👉
@@lts30000 absolutely 1000% , you can have this controller flip it for you after a preset warmup period, although you will have to mount a powerfull actuator to transfer switch, or have this connected to an approved automatic transfer switch
Should do a service to do this process to people already with portables that are ready yo accept this
I have a troy bilt 7000w generator, can you construct this for me, I will pay
What’s new?
Havn't worked on it this winter, the project will resume when it gets warmer in a month or two. Thanks for standing by!
Running that with the covers loose is a hazard.
No worries, the covers were off for testing purposes in a controlled environment.
Just a mess of components on the ground. Nothing about installation and final integration
Sell me your twist switch knob
Nice try on the video but, that is a mess. Sorry , but you should have had all your components and do a trial run before the video turns to be not so good. It’s definitely a prototype so I will pass. Your almost there and you just need to wrap it up, get everything programmed, installed in boxes, etc.
Yeah I really made sure to state that it's was an early stage prototype lol, it is infact quite a mess. You can see how much cleaner my panel looks all boxed up in the other video on my channel.
th-cam.com/video/KRJTalp_RZU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/KRJTalp_RZU/w-d-xo.html