THE first great power trio, and the forerunner of heavy metal as we know it. Hendrix and Zep took it a few steps further, but never lost touch with the blues with their music. Cream and Zep took their blues from Mississippi and the south, Hendrix took his from Venus!!!! But no matter how you cut it, THAT was music!!!!!!!!! Glad i grew up with it!!!!
I agree, Eric probably did come in early, but he very clearly announced he was coming in, and Jack surely heard him. Why Jack insisted in singling and forcing EC to stop is probably why EC doesn't like to play with him. Right or wrong, I prefer to play with people who flow withe music, not just insist on "doing it right". Particularly in a trio, you can rearrange things on the spot, no prob., if everyone listens, respects, and can respond musically. I THOUGHT this was what Cream was all about.
@janicewilsonify : Jack's got a great voice for sure, but the best yet? I'm thinkin' Paul Rodgers, Burton Cummings, and a few more could also fit into that slot.
I've been called a sloppy guitarist!!! At a rehearsal our drummer said "Your playing's always sloppy, like Jimi Hendrix or something." I was like O_O "I'll settle for that!"
It's not one at the expense of the other with me. I didn't say there was no such thing as blues technique, I said blues was LESS about technique. I could name countless rock/blues guitarists who can play crazy fast hammer ons/pull offs, the most saucy, soulful licks ever and have a lot of technical ability under their belt. But you'll also hear some raw, sloppy stuff coming out of them as well! I'm interested in what you have to say but swearing at me and miss quoting me isn't going to help you.
By the way, those players didn't get to where they are because of their sloppyness. They became legends because of their innovations in rock/blues. They just weren't the most precise technical players.
Fair enough.The type of sloppyness your talking about (timing/wrong notes) is definatly important. If Eric had played that lick out of key or out of time, then I would call it a mistake.However, improvising a lick into a song on the spot is fine; even if it's not played with perfectly clean technique.I'm not saying that it's ok to be completly sloppy all of the time; that would sound horrible.Blues is about soul, tone, and phrasing, and less about perfect technique. Classical is about technique.
I suppose classical music has very little soul content. Bach improvised all the time particularly the fugue used for dracula where you could say he was "sloppy". there should be excellence in soul, tone, and technique in every genre..blues and classical both strive for this equally.
in regards to grammar, I am not performing, for example a college paper which must be turned in, or a personal statement to get into law school. Talking to you i can be very sloppy and its ok...Sloppyness is bad when you actually perform.
look...personally speaking as a blues player i definitely like to see technique as well as soul simultaneously and it seems to me that your insulting an entire genre by saying that it is ok to be sloppy with your playing....i don't like it when guitarists play sloppily in any genre so we have to agree to disagree.
how does one get legend status by being extremely sloppy...maybe we are differing in our definition to me sloppyness is not staying on time and not resolving wrong notes, as well as not using efficient technique. Some of these guys may do it on a performance but they certainly don't strive to. My problem is you saying its ok to play with an attitude that says playing sloppy is ok and part of the genre....strive to play great and if you fuck up your human.
Sounds good by me. But I just can't understand why you can't hear and accept the sloppyness that comes with so many blues guitarists. It's not a bad thing! But that's alright; lets just agree to dissagree.-Peace.
You're entitled to your opinion but come on, listen to Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Buddy Guy, and countless other blues artists and you can here extreme sloppyness in all of their playing. It didn't stop them from becoming legends. Feel is far more important in blues than being technically precise. If you care so much about not being sloppy, how come you don't capitalise the first letter of your sentences? Just wondering. -Peace.
so there is no such thing as blues technique such as bending in key, or producing a soulful vibrato, double bends, hammer ons, pull offs, etc. You can't fucking sit there on your high horse and declare what is genre is about...you can have an incredibly technical as well as soulful blues player(Stevie Ray Vaughan) why is it one at the expense of the other with you.
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I grew up on this. Nothing could touch it, not even today.
I'm a black man in America so i understand the blues....this is the music of my ancestors.
THE first great power trio, and the forerunner of heavy metal as we know it. Hendrix and Zep took it a few steps further, but never lost touch with the blues with their music. Cream and Zep took their blues from Mississippi and the south, Hendrix took his from Venus!!!! But no matter how you cut it, THAT was music!!!!!!!!! Glad i grew up with it!!!!
Great sound for an Arena recording.
@JASONCALEDONIA You must not be high enough. You have to remember the era in which these tunes were written.
wow I just realised I prefer the sg sound rather then the strat
I agree, Eric probably did come in early, but he very clearly announced he was coming in, and Jack surely heard him. Why Jack insisted in singling and forcing EC to stop is probably why EC doesn't like to play with him.
Right or wrong, I prefer to play with people who flow withe music, not just insist on "doing it right". Particularly in a trio, you can rearrange things on the spot, no prob., if everyone listens, respects, and can respond musically. I THOUGHT this was what Cream was all about.
where do you find vids like this? great
One last thing, you have a Wyclef Jean video on your channel. He's awesome, but can't you hear that he plays sloppy too?
@janicewilsonify : Jack's got a great voice for sure, but the best yet? I'm thinkin' Paul Rodgers, Burton Cummings, and a few more could also fit into that slot.
did eric screw up at :35
I've been called a sloppy guitarist!!!
At a rehearsal our drummer said "Your playing's always sloppy, like Jimi Hendrix or something."
I was like O_O
"I'll settle for that!"
It's not one at the expense of the other with me. I didn't say there was no such thing as blues technique, I said blues was LESS about technique. I could name countless rock/blues guitarists who can play crazy fast hammer ons/pull offs, the most saucy, soulful licks ever and have a lot of technical ability under their belt. But you'll also hear some raw, sloppy stuff coming out of them as well! I'm interested in what you have to say but swearing at me and miss quoting me isn't going to help you.
By the way, those players didn't get to where they are because of their sloppyness. They became legends because of their innovations in rock/blues. They just weren't the most precise technical players.
Fair enough.The type of sloppyness your talking about (timing/wrong notes) is definatly important. If Eric had played that lick out of key or out of time, then I would call it a mistake.However, improvising a lick into a song on the spot is fine; even if it's not played with perfectly clean technique.I'm not saying that it's ok to be completly sloppy all of the time; that would sound horrible.Blues is about soul, tone, and phrasing, and less about perfect technique. Classical is about technique.
@janicewilsonify Check out a song called "seven moons "with robin trower. He continues to make great songs. Clapton is a bit stagnant.
I suppose classical music has very little soul content. Bach improvised all the time particularly the fugue used for dracula where you could say he was "sloppy". there should be excellence in soul, tone, and technique in every genre..blues and classical both strive for this equally.
whats your point? I think everything regarding sloppiness has been said.
It sounded fine to me. Remember it's alright to be a little raw/sloppy with blues.
pretty sure he did.....that bend didn't belong there
in regards to grammar, I am not performing, for example a college paper which must be turned in, or a personal statement to get into law school. Talking to you i can be very sloppy and its ok...Sloppyness is bad when you actually perform.
look...personally speaking as a blues player i definitely like to see technique as well as soul simultaneously and it seems to me that your insulting an entire genre by saying that it is ok to be sloppy with your playing....i don't like it when guitarists play sloppily in any genre so we have to agree to disagree.
how does one get legend status by being extremely sloppy...maybe we are differing in our definition to me sloppyness is not staying on time and not resolving wrong notes, as well as not using efficient technique. Some of these guys may do it on a performance but they certainly don't strive to. My problem is you saying its ok to play with an attitude that says playing sloppy is ok and part of the genre....strive to play great and if you fuck up your human.
No.
Sounds good by me. But I just can't understand why you can't hear and accept the sloppyness that comes with so many blues guitarists. It's not a bad thing! But that's alright; lets just agree to dissagree.-Peace.
actually i strongly disagree its never alright to be sloppy at anything you do. be excellent.
You're entitled to your opinion but come on, listen to Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Buddy Guy, and countless other blues artists and you can here extreme sloppyness in all of their playing. It didn't stop them from becoming legends. Feel is far more important in blues than being technically precise. If you care so much about not being sloppy, how come you don't capitalise the first letter of your sentences? Just wondering. -Peace.
so there is no such thing as blues technique such as bending in key, or producing a soulful vibrato, double bends, hammer ons, pull offs, etc. You can't fucking sit there on your high horse and declare what is genre is about...you can have an incredibly technical as well as soulful blues player(Stevie Ray Vaughan) why is it one at the expense of the other with you.