I would really like to see you guys do a price breakdown between the Bison ZR2 that you did in this video and a Colorado ZR2 adding in what you would really like from the Bison as options. For example with the protection plates, without the AEV bumpers or whatever you guys like. I appreciate the reviews from guys that own the truck and have modified it.
I just recently test drove a 2024 ZR2 Bison. My opinion was Chevrolet knocked it out of the park. I loved it! With 1-2 exceptions. First I will say I had a 2020 Tacoma TRD Pro that I drove 63k. Did not like the drivetrain at all even tuned and leg room at 6’2” was terrible. Fuel milage in MO and KS in wind and hills was terrible. So i traded it for a 21 Colorado ZR2 diesel. So far I love it. Have had it a little over a year with 27k. Fuel mileage is awesome, leg room awesome. Power is awesome. Did GDE tune, AEV skids, 275/70/17 tires on Crestone wheels and I get 22mpg in town and 26-29mpg highway. BEST stock was 32mpg on a 500 mike trip from Dallas to KC MO. Now for the 1-2 exceptions. The price and the fuel mileage. 64k with high interest rates is just crazy and the fuel mileage of this turbo 4 is terrible. If i were buying a new truck. It would definitely be the new Bison or ZR2. It’s a phenomenal vehicle. If they brought the diesel version they are selling in Brazil Id buy one NOW. If I didn’t need the fuel economy and the economy was pre covid Id be buying the gas version. If I had a gas Colorado Id probably upgrade if the pricing were better but I could go ZR2 to alleviate the price point. I was very impressed with the new Bison. Fit and finish, ride quality leg room power etc etc was really really good. Couldn’t believe it til I drove it.
All very good points. Yeah I love the new Bison compared to the new crop of trucks. But I agree the prices are crazy high. Frankly I couldn't afford any of these like I did in 2022 when I got my personal Tacoma. Our buddy Nate did just get a new Colorado Bison so videos about it are coming!
@@JasonExplainsThings Keep up the good work. Love the channel. And I really appreciated your personal post. I personally Haven’t been able to hit the off road scene for a long time as my wife and I have a special needs daughter who is now 23. But i do enjoy watching you guys adventures as well as others. Im still building on vehicles 😅 just don’t get to get them out on the trail too much (more daily driven) like I did when my wife and I were younger before our 2nd daughter was born. We would go to Colorado a lot , and took our first daughter in a Jeep Cherokee to the country of Mexico when she was 2 with one of AEV Daves first products the Cherokee swing out tire carrier. But life throws curve balls once in a while and just like you, knowing God is in control is key. Great job you guys!!!
Hey Greg! Thanks so much for the kind words. So the red Colorado Bison was a company truck that’s since been old. I’m actually Instagram friends with the guy who bought it. Nate’s had several AEV Jeeps but this is his first personal Colorado.
Yes! Small world. Thats the day we met Nate… and hijinks ensued from there. Those diesel Bisons are amazing. Your fuel mileage destroys every other off-road midsize truck.
Chevy has a definite winner on their hands. I could see some Tacoma owners trade their trucks in for a new Colorado. Every Toyota Tacoma owner wants 35s and a front locker on their truck, but it takes a lot of work and money to make that happen.
@@JasonExplainsThings Toyota owners are some of the most brand-loyal customers out there, but Toyota hasn't given their customers 35s and a front locker. Chevy listened to the market and produced a great truck.
@@JasonExplainsThingsI traded my peice of junk Tacoma for a zr2 , couldn’t stand an outdated and underpowered truck for being a 2022. My zr2 even sounds better
Your first Colorado Z71 build video series inspired me to get a 21 ZR2. And I love it! It’s my daily with 33’s. Super off road capable with the lockers. If money was no object, a 2024 Bison would be my next choice. Keep up the great videos guys. Really enjoy the content and comrade. Safe travels.
@@alexibarra112 No trimming or regearing. I haven’t taken it off road but I think they will run with full extension flex. It will throw off your speedo by 3 miles per hour. Definitely slower off the line but acceptable. I did a front spacer kit . So far that’s it. Good luck!
Have the same setup except diesel. 2021 ZR2 on 255/80s. I get 26mpg all day long at 60. Getting re-geared to 4.10s next week at nitro in Cashmere and the GDE tune on the way. Should see easily 32-33mpg now highway!
Jason, can you ask Chris how he liked his icon set up compared to the DSSV? And if he would ever replace his DSSVs if they went out, with another brand(king/icon/fox)? Great video, thank you for all the content.
Yeah we've chatted about that and I'll tell him to chime in. From what he's said in the past the Icon suspension was superior and he enjoyed the adjustability. I'm guessing he'd go with it again. But as the miles rack up we'll see.
Jason's right, the Multimatic shocks are great and one of the absolute best factory options out there. Having said that, the Icons were amazing, and I will definitely look at them or King shocks when the time comes.
I just did a test drive of the new Bison and it is AWESOME!! I had a 2020 Pro Tacoma sold it after 62K for a ZR2 Diesel Colorado. GDE intact tuned and its perfect. Been adding all the AEV pieces cause I couldn’t find a bison at the time. Love to have a new one but the price, economy interest rates, and fuel economy is a issue for me. I just paid $3.04 a gallon for diesel yesterday here in KC Missouri and even with 275/70/17 Ridge Grapplers on Crestone wheels im getting 22 in town and 27-29 highway driving 70mph
@JasonExplainsThings FYI the underbody cameras are an option under "Interior/Safety Options" they go for $500. Just to add: Under "Dealer-Installed/Exterior/Performance" there's an option for the AEV snorkel. Though I believed its flipped from the last gen. I could only find a protype image for the canyon sporting it though.
Lame, I just did a bill and it says “see dealer for pricing”. So I have no clue how much my build costs. Lol. Let’s see if I can build and price the Silverado HD ZR2
@@koalafan1576 The winch on these trucks is a dealer-installed option. I bet the price will vary some due to different hourly rates they a dealership will charge.
I like aspects of the old one more. The rear AEV bumper is better in my opinion… cutouts for lights and better protection with the tubing. The power for the new one was surprising in a good way.
I bought a 23 ZR2 and I'm looking forward to being able to add a few AEV bits a la carte. I really love the look of the front and rear bumpers! This ZR2 Bison will likely be price competitive with the new Tacoma Trailhunter but offers so much more capability! It's a bit spendy for my blood but may prove to be a good value if you want it all from the factory.
I bought the 23' Colorado ZR2 a few months back. LOVE IT! Got it for below MSRP; about 49000. Traded my '16 Colorado Z71 in and got 14000 for it. At the time, it was between the ZR2 or wait until the Tacoma TRD Pro came out. I wasn't a fan of how the Tundra looks, and the Tacoma looks like a baby Tundra. When I saw my dealership had the first and only ZR2 coming into my area, I pulled the trigger and got it. Happy I did. Seeing the price of the new Tacos really affirmed my decision as well. I also like the feeling of having a unique truck. I'm sure some of it is due to the strike, but I've seen other versions of the Colorado, but haven't seen any other ZR2s yet in my area.
I had a 2019 Colorado Bison, changed it in 2021 for a Canyon AT4 because we had planned to buy a bigger travel trailer and wanted the higher payload and towing capacity. Plans changed, I'm crying now lol!
First off, I love these discussions. I feel like you all bring a regular person view point to many topics. A live stream would be fun. Second, I am wondering if Chevy is thinking about getting more into the off-road race scene. I know they had one Colorado in a race (Vegas to Reno?) that broke the frame. 35s is a common max size for "stock" classes in several major race formats. Third, doesn't the Gladiator Baja have bump stops? Idk what kind, but I remember them getting those and extra stiffening welds on the frame.
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed the conversation. I don't follow it too closely but I know that Chad Hall races a Colorado in the Mint 400 and other races. Yeah the broken frame situation is apparently why the ZR2 was delayed a bit. It uncovered a weakness that was remedied on all the trucks after that... which is good because the last Colorado had a tendency to bend frames (which is why we did a video about frame stiffeners). Not sure on what bump stops the Gladiator can come with. I added progressive "SumoSpring" bump stops to my Tacoma. They're great for the money and made a noticeable improvement... but don't really compare to the crazy hydraulic ones on the Bison. I had never experienced something like that before and it blew my mind.
You must be thinking of the Gladiator Mojave. It doesn't come with hydraulic bump stops, but a nice set of Fox shocks that are 2.5" in diameter. Another weird thing about the Mojave is that it doesn't come with a front locker.
with the angle you look out the rear window it works best on the driver's side. I know a lot of people will hate it takes up bed space, but a 35 is to large to fit underneath.
These midsize truck prices are just nuts. I understand we’ll never see prices from 2019 ever again, but it’s wild to think how inflated costs have become. New 23 tacos sitting on lots in the Midwest being discounted to $40k for TRD Off Roads. Can put $10k in upgrades on it and still save. These turbo 4’s may not hold up compared to the days of v6 or a turbo diesel 6 cyl. Have a 2015 wk2 ecodiesel with 170k on it and I’m just gonna milk it as long as I can.
I wouldn't get this truck for 2 reasons. The first reason is I can't afford it, the second is never buy the first gen of any new truck. I think in the demo the truck has wheel rub, that would annoy me if I paid 65k+ for it.
Only thing id be worried about someone raced that new zr2 in the desert, and bent the frame. They still finished, wish they made them little stronger from what ive read in the forms
Well played answer by Chris there at the end. You could see him spacing off while you guys were talking about the Tacoma, almost like he was weighing the pros and cons of trading in his current truck for a new one 😆
I'm planning on getting a 2024 ZR2. Is the Bison worth another almost $12k (putting it in Ranger Raptor price range) without a twin-turbo V6 engine upgrade (the 'Raptor makes another 100hp)? Ahhhh, no. I'll see if I can't just get a lift to put 34's or 35's on it, get a skidplate for the gas tank and rear diff, and it'll be 90% of a Bison for $8k less.
Adding 35’s was a pricey project on the last gen Colorado ZR2. You’ll likely need to buy a fender kit, either do a fair amount of labor (cutting the body) or paying someone to do it for you, some sort of lift (hopefully maintaining your already excellent suspension), along with the cost of the tires. And don’t forget a tune to reprogram your speedometer and other things. I’m not saying have to get the Bison package. But if you plan on 35’s I’m guessing you’ll end up spending the same amount in the end… without a warranty on any of it.
@@JasonExplainsThings I think it'll be quite a bit cheaper because as I understand it the 2024 Bison only requires 1/2" or 1" lift (can't remember - maybe $2k with install) and different fender flares to fit the 35's, maybe wheels with different offset, but I can get those cheaper NOT from AEV. So, I'll save in not buying the fancy seatcovers, fancy bumpers, super expensive boron skidplates, etc. If I can go with a 34" tire without a lift AND if it fits underneath the bed by simply deflating the tire a little (I've seen that trick used before) instead of having to put it in the bed, then I might go that route. $12k is a TON of money for no engine upgrade. At that price I'd certainly go with the Ranger Raptor and another 100hp.
2 things make this video fun. 1-it’s awesome that we can create/option all of these trucks any which way we want to depending on the mood at the time (while I love my 4runner,the dream truck is a f350). 2-it’s fun to sit around and go through all the what if scenarios and dream the day away. No answer is right and no answer is wrong. Feel free to keep the round table videos coming- it’s hard to go wrong with discussions about what ever!
Yes, I admire the AEV package and see the value. I have a 2017 Z71 Tahoe and wonder what I'd do if their was a Tahoe with the MultiMatic DSSV suspension. Two comments, I'm in snow/slush salt belt Canada and wonder about 315 mm wide tires in the winter crap. Second, in some markets GM has option T79 which is a rear fog light incorporated in the driver's side tail light. If GM would just include T79 as standard equipment in N.A. I think it would be a safety feature (insurance companies note) and don't call it a chase light.
I’m surprised at how “cheap” this truck is. And that’s in a good way. I thought for sure it was gonna be a $70K truck because how capable it is. I don’t think the Tacoma can beat this one at that price 😅. Oh man I’m even thinking about trading in my 4Runner TRD Pro.
I love Toyota... don't get me wrong... but I feel like Chevy is possibly going for the value proposition. Not the Bison perhaps the the 2024 TRD OR vs a ZR2... you get more for your money with the Chevy. Which is better made and lasts the longest? Remains to be seen.
I would really like to see you guys do a price breakdown between the Bison ZR2 that you did in this video and a Colorado ZR2 adding in what you would really like from the Bison as options. For example with the protection plates, without the AEV bumpers or whatever you guys like. I appreciate the reviews from guys that own the truck and have modified it.
Great video! And I keep seeing Nate popping up in videos I didn't expect to see him, lol.
He gets around. 😉
Any time you are in Washington let us know!
@@aevnate4140 we were just up in the Seattle area visiting our oldest last week. But I’m sure we will get up there again after the winter.
I just recently test drove a 2024 ZR2 Bison. My opinion was Chevrolet knocked it out of the park. I loved it! With 1-2 exceptions. First I will say I had a 2020 Tacoma TRD Pro that I drove 63k. Did not like the drivetrain at all even tuned and leg room at 6’2” was terrible. Fuel milage in MO and KS in wind and hills was terrible. So i traded it for a 21 Colorado ZR2 diesel. So far I love it. Have had it a little over a year with 27k. Fuel mileage is awesome, leg room awesome. Power is awesome. Did GDE tune, AEV skids, 275/70/17 tires on Crestone wheels and I get 22mpg in town and 26-29mpg highway. BEST stock was 32mpg on a 500 mike trip from Dallas to KC MO.
Now for the 1-2 exceptions. The price and the fuel mileage. 64k with high interest rates is just crazy and the fuel mileage of this turbo 4 is terrible.
If i were buying a new truck. It would definitely be the new Bison or ZR2. It’s a phenomenal vehicle. If they brought the diesel version they are selling in Brazil Id buy one NOW.
If I didn’t need the fuel economy and the economy was pre covid Id be buying the gas version.
If I had a gas Colorado Id probably upgrade if the pricing were better but I could go ZR2 to alleviate the price point.
I was very impressed with the new Bison. Fit and finish, ride quality leg room power etc etc was really really good. Couldn’t believe it til I drove it.
All very good points. Yeah I love the new Bison compared to the new crop of trucks. But I agree the prices are crazy high. Frankly I couldn't afford any of these like I did in 2022 when I got my personal Tacoma. Our buddy Nate did just get a new Colorado Bison so videos about it are coming!
@@JasonExplainsThings
Keep up the good work. Love the channel. And I really appreciated your personal post. I personally Haven’t been able to hit the off road scene for a long time as my wife and I have a special needs daughter who is now 23. But i do enjoy watching you guys adventures as well as others. Im still building on vehicles 😅 just don’t get to get them out on the trail too much (more daily driven) like I did when my wife and I were younger before our 2nd daughter was born. We would go to Colorado a lot , and took our first daughter in a Jeep Cherokee to the country of Mexico when she was 2 with one of AEV Daves first products the Cherokee swing out tire carrier.
But life throws curve balls once in a while and just like you, knowing God is in control is key. Great job you guys!!!
@@JasonExplainsThings didn’t Nate have a red diesel Bison or was that just an AEV company vehicle?
Hey Greg! Thanks so much for the kind words. So the red Colorado Bison was a company truck that’s since been old. I’m actually Instagram friends with the guy who bought it.
Nate’s had several AEV Jeeps but this is his first personal Colorado.
Great video! The Bison is pretty nice! That red “Ultimate” Bison near the end of the video is fantastic…but I am bias…since it’s in my driveway 😁
Yes! Small world. Thats the day we met Nate… and hijinks ensued from there. Those diesel Bisons are amazing. Your fuel mileage destroys every other off-road midsize truck.
I’m impressed with the mileage I get with those 35’s every time I pull up to the pump…sorry Chris
Chevy has a definite winner on their hands. I could see some Tacoma owners trade their trucks in for a new Colorado. Every Toyota Tacoma owner wants 35s and a front locker on their truck, but it takes a lot of work and money to make that happen.
no
Bold words Nate.
@@dontbeaculpus hahah, I think it will. Chevy is offering a lot with these trucks.
@@JasonExplainsThings Toyota owners are some of the most brand-loyal customers out there, but Toyota hasn't given their customers 35s and a front locker. Chevy listened to the market and produced a great truck.
@@JasonExplainsThingsI traded my peice of junk Tacoma for a zr2 , couldn’t stand an outdated and underpowered truck for being a 2022. My zr2 even sounds better
Your first Colorado Z71 build video series inspired me to get a 21 ZR2. And I love it! It’s my daily with 33’s. Super off road capable with the lockers. If money was no object, a 2024 Bison would be my next choice.
Keep up the great videos guys. Really enjoy the content and comrade. Safe travels.
Thanks so much for the comment! Always amazing to hear we helped inform and inspire. Hope you're having all the adventures in that beast. ✌️
Did you have to regear for 33s or do any trimming ? I’ve been thinking about mounting 33s
@@alexibarra112 No trimming or regearing. I haven’t taken it off road but I think they will run with full extension flex. It will throw off your speedo by 3 miles per hour. Definitely slower off the line but acceptable. I did a front spacer kit . So far that’s it.
Good luck!
Have the same setup except diesel. 2021 ZR2 on 255/80s. I get 26mpg all day long at 60. Getting re-geared to 4.10s next week at nitro in Cashmere and the GDE tune on the way. Should see easily 32-33mpg now highway!
Test drove all the new midsize trucks and the colorado was the winner for me.
Very nice, what trim level did you decide to get?
Is the selected TRD Offroad, really a better comparison of a Z71, versus ZR2 - ZR2 = TRD Pro & ZR2 Bison = Trailhunter???
The closest Tacoma to a Z71 would be the Limited in my opinion.
Great video - please keep them going!
We agree Patrick, if only Toyota had pricing available! Maybe we'll revisit once pricing is out for all of them.
Let us know if you agree with our thoughts! I'm personally just glad I got a truck in 2022. My truck isn't too far from being paid off! 😁
There was that spot in the video on "value your trade-in" we should have entered your Tacoma.
man pressure is on for the TRD Pro!
Jason, can you ask Chris how he liked his icon set up compared to the DSSV? And if he would ever replace his DSSVs if they went out, with another brand(king/icon/fox)? Great video, thank you for all the content.
Yeah we've chatted about that and I'll tell him to chime in. From what he's said in the past the Icon suspension was superior and he enjoyed the adjustability. I'm guessing he'd go with it again. But as the miles rack up we'll see.
Jason's right, the Multimatic shocks are great and one of the absolute best factory options out there. Having said that, the Icons were amazing, and I will definitely look at them or King shocks when the time comes.
I think something that gets lost, is that it’s 35’s under factory warranty, whereas aftermarket tends not to.
Good point.
I have the '22 Bison, with the Baby D. I think I'll keep it. Gosh, I sure do want to test drive the new one, though!
I think it would be tough to give up that diesel engine.
I just did a test drive of the new Bison and it is AWESOME!! I had a 2020 Pro Tacoma sold it after 62K for a ZR2 Diesel Colorado. GDE intact tuned and its perfect. Been adding all the AEV pieces cause I couldn’t find a bison at the time.
Love to have a new one but the price, economy interest rates, and fuel economy is a issue for me. I just paid $3.04 a gallon for diesel yesterday here in KC Missouri and even with 275/70/17 Ridge Grapplers on Crestone wheels im getting 22 in town and 27-29 highway driving 70mph
The AT4X is already $63k without the AEV. Ridiculous!
Yikes!
Yeah… that’s a bit nuts. At that point it would be too painful to go rub that into trees and rocks.
@JasonExplainsThings FYI the underbody cameras are an option under "Interior/Safety Options" they go for $500.
Just to add:
Under "Dealer-Installed/Exterior/Performance" there's an option for the AEV snorkel. Though I believed its flipped from the last gen. I could only find a protype image for the canyon sporting it though.
Lame, I just did a bill and it says “see dealer for pricing”. So I have no clue how much my build costs. Lol. Let’s see if I can build and price the Silverado HD ZR2
Some of the options like adding a winch do that. 👍
@@JasonExplainsThingsyes I added a winch. But on the Silverado it’s $84,630. Yikes.
Come on Chris, you can trade your ‘21 Colorado for my ‘16 and you can then trade the ‘16 for a new ‘24. 😂
@@koalafan1576that Overland math if I've ever heard it. 😂
@@koalafan1576 The winch on these trucks is a dealer-installed option. I bet the price will vary some due to different hourly rates they a dealership will charge.
Call me crazy but I think the old model bison zr2 looks better.
I like aspects of the old one more. The rear AEV bumper is better in my opinion… cutouts for lights and better protection with the tubing. The power for the new one was surprising in a good way.
I bought a 23 ZR2 and I'm looking forward to being able to add a few AEV bits a la carte. I really love the look of the front and rear bumpers!
This ZR2 Bison will likely be price competitive with the new Tacoma Trailhunter but offers so much more capability! It's a bit spendy for my blood but may prove to be a good value if you want it all from the factory.
That’s the way to go if you ask me.
I bought the 23' Colorado ZR2 a few months back. LOVE IT! Got it for below MSRP; about 49000. Traded my '16 Colorado Z71 in and got 14000 for it. At the time, it was between the ZR2 or wait until the Tacoma TRD Pro came out. I wasn't a fan of how the Tundra looks, and the Tacoma looks like a baby Tundra. When I saw my dealership had the first and only ZR2 coming into my area, I pulled the trigger and got it. Happy I did. Seeing the price of the new Tacos really affirmed my decision as well. I also like the feeling of having a unique truck. I'm sure some of it is due to the strike, but I've seen other versions of the Colorado, but haven't seen any other ZR2s yet in my area.
Nice. Yeah I saw a Desert Boss on a lot in Ellensburg, Wa last week. Other than that I haven’t seen a new ZR2 in the wild.
I had a 2019 Colorado Bison, changed it in 2021 for a Canyon AT4 because we had planned to buy a bigger travel trailer and wanted the higher payload and towing capacity. Plans changed, I'm crying now lol!
First off, I love these discussions. I feel like you all bring a regular person view point to many topics. A live stream would be fun.
Second, I am wondering if Chevy is thinking about getting more into the off-road race scene. I know they had one Colorado in a race (Vegas to Reno?) that broke the frame. 35s is a common max size for "stock" classes in several major race formats.
Third, doesn't the Gladiator Baja have bump stops? Idk what kind, but I remember them getting those and extra stiffening welds on the frame.
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed the conversation. I don't follow it too closely but I know that Chad Hall races a Colorado in the Mint 400 and other races. Yeah the broken frame situation is apparently why the ZR2 was delayed a bit. It uncovered a weakness that was remedied on all the trucks after that... which is good because the last Colorado had a tendency to bend frames (which is why we did a video about frame stiffeners).
Not sure on what bump stops the Gladiator can come with. I added progressive "SumoSpring" bump stops to my Tacoma. They're great for the money and made a noticeable improvement... but don't really compare to the crazy hydraulic ones on the Bison. I had never experienced something like that before and it blew my mind.
You must be thinking of the Gladiator Mojave. It doesn't come with hydraulic bump stops, but a nice set of Fox shocks that are 2.5" in diameter. Another weird thing about the Mojave is that it doesn't come with a front locker.
They should have put the spare tire on the passenger side. Otherwise, sweet truck!
with the angle you look out the rear window it works best on the driver's side. I know a lot of people will hate it takes up bed space, but a 35 is to large to fit underneath.
still less than the TRD pro and trailhunter I bet.
Yeah I bet it’ll be close.
I dig it! This would be near the top of the list if I were to replace my 3rd gen Off Road Tacoma. :)
These midsize truck prices are just nuts. I understand we’ll never see prices from 2019 ever again, but it’s wild to think how inflated costs have become. New 23 tacos sitting on lots in the Midwest being discounted to $40k for TRD Off Roads. Can put $10k in upgrades on it and still save. These turbo 4’s may not hold up compared to the days of v6 or a turbo diesel 6 cyl. Have a 2015 wk2 ecodiesel with 170k on it and I’m just gonna milk it as long as I can.
I wouldn't get this truck for 2 reasons. The first reason is I can't afford it, the second is never buy the first gen of any new truck. I think in the demo the truck has wheel rub, that would annoy me if I paid 65k+ for it.
For sure. All very fair points. For us it's just fun to chat about. I'm a late adopter myself.
2024 is the first year for the Bison, but this new body was released in 2023. I hope most of the issues have been worked out by now.
We experienced no wheel rub flogging these guys in Johnson Valley, for the record.
@@PNW_Bison I was going to ask you if the truck rubbed. I couldn't imagine it would.
Only thing id be worried about someone raced that new zr2 in the desert, and bent the frame. They still finished, wish they made them little stronger from what ive read in the forms
Well played answer by Chris there at the end. You could see him spacing off while you guys were talking about the Tacoma, almost like he was weighing the pros and cons of trading in his current truck for a new one 😆
He's gotta be thinking about the new truck!
Sweet ride but I’m not tempted… yet.
I'm planning on getting a 2024 ZR2. Is the Bison worth another almost $12k (putting it in Ranger Raptor price range) without a twin-turbo V6 engine upgrade (the 'Raptor makes another 100hp)? Ahhhh, no. I'll see if I can't just get a lift to put 34's or 35's on it, get a skidplate for the gas tank and rear diff, and it'll be 90% of a Bison for $8k less.
Adding 35’s was a pricey project on the last gen Colorado ZR2. You’ll likely need to buy a fender kit, either do a fair amount of labor (cutting the body) or paying someone to do it for you, some sort of lift (hopefully maintaining your already excellent suspension), along with the cost of the tires. And don’t forget a tune to reprogram your speedometer and other things.
I’m not saying have to get the Bison package. But if you plan on 35’s I’m guessing you’ll end up spending the same amount in the end… without a warranty on any of it.
Watch the videos we did about fitting 35’s and re-gearing for a picture into what it might take. 👍
@@JasonExplainsThings I think it'll be quite a bit cheaper because as I understand it the 2024 Bison only requires 1/2" or 1" lift (can't remember - maybe $2k with install) and different fender flares to fit the 35's, maybe wheels with different offset, but I can get those cheaper NOT from AEV. So, I'll save in not buying the fancy seatcovers, fancy bumpers, super expensive boron skidplates, etc. If I can go with a 34" tire without a lift AND if it fits underneath the bed by simply deflating the tire a little (I've seen that trick used before) instead of having to put it in the bed, then I might go that route. $12k is a TON of money for no engine upgrade. At that price I'd certainly go with the Ranger Raptor and another 100hp.
@@JasonExplainsThings I could be wrong but I don't think the Bison is re-geared for 35's.
2 things make this video fun. 1-it’s awesome that we can create/option all of these trucks any which way we want to depending on the mood at the time (while I love my 4runner,the dream truck is a f350). 2-it’s fun to sit around and go through all the what if scenarios and dream the day away. No answer is right and no answer is wrong. Feel free to keep the round table videos coming- it’s hard to go wrong with discussions about what ever!
Couldn't agree more. Definitely no wrong answers. This is all just for fun.
Thanks for the positive feedback, always fun to sit down with the boys and talk trucks!
I got a Tacoma and it's my dream truck... 4runner is very nice unless you have to tow some big ass huge trailer I would never get an F-350...
Yes, I admire the AEV package and see the value. I have a 2017 Z71 Tahoe and wonder what I'd do if their was a Tahoe with the MultiMatic DSSV suspension. Two comments, I'm in snow/slush salt belt Canada and wonder about 315 mm wide tires in the winter crap. Second, in some markets GM has option T79 which is a rear fog light incorporated in the driver's side tail light. If GM would just include T79 as standard equipment in N.A. I think it would be a safety feature (insurance companies note) and don't call it a chase light.
I’m surprised at how “cheap” this truck is. And that’s in a good way. I thought for sure it was gonna be a $70K truck because how capable it is. I don’t think the Tacoma can beat this one at that price 😅. Oh man I’m even thinking about trading in my 4Runner TRD Pro.
Too much technology for me personally. It will cost many $$$ to repair. Electronics seem very glitchy.
To be fair I have heard that about every time a vehicle launches a new generation. New vehicles are just getting better and better.
Turbo 4 Cycl? ----IM OUT
Then the Nissan Frontier and Gladiator are the only remaining options next year. 🤷🏻♂️
Get a tacoma for cheaper!!
I love Toyota... don't get me wrong... but I feel like Chevy is possibly going for the value proposition. Not the Bison perhaps the the 2024 TRD OR vs a ZR2... you get more for your money with the Chevy. Which is better made and lasts the longest? Remains to be seen.
I’ll stick with my 22 TRD Off-road Taco
Same here. 👍
Hmmmmmmm...
Jk, I'm a poor 😅
Bring in the ranger raptor
We should have compared that as well to the Colorado Bison. I believe the Ranger Raptor will have more horsepower but still is only on 33's
@@aevnate4140 it would probably be the only truck I'd trade my bison in on.
Dang it! Where were you when we filmed this!? We definitely should have.
@@tomhawthorn3383 What is making you consider jumping to the Ranger Raptor?
@aevnate4140 my bison is deisel. Miss the hp. Other than that it's been great.
Brand new Jeep Gladiators are selling in the low $30k’s. They fit 35’s on stock steel wheels.
Yeah they are discounted a ton right now.