AIRLIFT 3P MANIFOLD ISSUE
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Ayy! Whats up everyone!? More air suspension issues! My 3P management is no good so i had to get another one. Pressure sensor fault came up on the remote and the RR sensor number displayed red. Warranty covered it luckily! DONT FORGET TO SUBSCRIBE! Catch yall on the next one! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Great freaking vid man! Aye that fitment in the front tho 😍
Thanks man!
Good to know. When i get my setup next summer, am buying an extra manifold and i will also ask for a 1/4 little line for the drain instead of the one supplied coz its WAY too small and weak.
Yea it is too weak. You could order extra line too.
I have a leak fault but cant find a leak, im wondering if I should replace the manifold
Great job on the video I am thinking of buying the 3P system this is good to know.
Thanks man! Definitely do it!
Ayeee them MA bois holding it down 💯🙏
Holding it down🙋🏻♂️
How do I air it out if the management system is bad and I can’t do it with the remote like how when I air out manually
There was a bad batch of manifolds that went out from airlift. It’s not big deal! If you have a warranty you’ll be good in not time. I got lifetime warranty on my 3p never had a problem with mine but in the event I do I just let speedzone in Orlando know nd they replace the part no questions asked
My manifold is sending air to one of the bags instead of the tank what can it be
Wjat fuse did it blow
Awesome ride thanks for the video very informative
Thanks! No problem
Does anyone have the name of the parts to manually put air in if you need to disconnect manifold? A link would be helpful as I would love
To keep these in my car - just in case... thank you
(PTC) Inflation Valve on Bagriders
thanks for the video. about the valves that you put on the ends of the line in case your manifold craps out on you. can you give me a link to buy those? i have 3/8 lines as well
I just added the link for those in the description. Its my most common question😂
Hey Brian, how were you able to air out if your controller wasn't working after it blacked out while driving. What did you do to be aired out all the way when you got home?
So if i remember correctly. When i aired out the tank completely. And unplugged the battery. The whole system went with it. I dont remember clearly but i cant think of another way i did it.
good video man. glad I stumbled on it. Im in NJ and bagging my kia hatchback. I ordered the 3p from bagriders, with 1 AIR Zenith compressor and 5 g tank. they forgot the shrader valve (tire air valve) but they shipped it out. now im waiting on my struts from Airtekk. hope they come soon. Ive read that the manifold should be higher than the tank so water can drain down words out of the manifold valves. I always wondered about what happens if something breaks, and now youre out of having a car cause it cant air up. those air tire valves to hook onto the ends of the air lines are genious… im guessing the one on the tank mount u can fill if a compressor breaks and u cant air the tank up... the ones on the valves hoses are good if the valve is broken so u can get air into the bags to raise them... my question is once you do that will the system hold that pressure and does the controller still guage how much air you manually just put into them? I bought a 100 dollar portable air compressor that imma keep in the car that plugs into the lighter for emergencys so I can get air into the system if the actually system fails. just hook it to the air tire valves in the trunk
e l The 3P system is not bad. And those air valves did really help. Without the manifold i couldnt air up anything. It should hold. There was no power to the remote when the manifold was out. Would have to just manually air it up. But the portable compressor would defiantly come in handy!
shucky ducky it’s all in the install. My first car, bmw 540i that I bagged went smoothly. No issues for about 5 months then I sold the car. I now drive a Mercedes cl55 amg that I also just bagged. In the beginning I had nothing but problems after problems. But after everything got sorted out. It’s been about 7 months and everything is perfect.
shucky ducky Yea i believe it depends on the install also.
Where can you find the fuse at? I have the same issue on mine but I’m curious to what fuse was blown that you mentioned?
There should be a fuse for the system its self. Mine is on the right side of the trunk above the battery. It has a little cover you pull off.
M having the same issue, it started with the controller glistening on/off, slowly it start to die but good thing I thought about the apps, it didn’t link until my controller started acting funny, after it was like then it died, M now using the apps on my iPhone 6s but since I had to upgrade to iPhone X, it won’t let me download it or link it to two phone, I thought it was the controller so I call airlift customer support and they were kind enough to send me new controlller but it’s doing the same thing so I’ll go with the manifold since it keep saying ECU not found. I don’t know how expensive or or if they can replace it like they did the controller
Sounds more towards the manifold. If you are within warranty then you shouldnt have to pay anything.
Where did u buy that airline fitting manual for the lines? Need a 1/4 one
I bought it from Bag Riders. Should be in the description
Hey bro great video! but how were you able to air out the bags first before you disconnected the airlines to the manifold if the remote wasnt turned on ? Plz help thank u!
So if i remember correctly. When i aired out the tank completely. And unplugged the battery. The whole system went with it. I dont remember clearly but i cant think of another way i did it.
@@A1Brian isnt there a decompression plug on the tank Like traditional compressors?
what are those fittings called that you put on the end of the line to put air in while the manifold is getting replaced ??
zulay munguia Those fittings are called Pace Inflation valve (PTC) on bagriders. I saw them for 3/8 line and 1/4 line
We call them schrader valves.
Any word on the route cause of this failure? Just ordered one up
banfieldmotorsports Water from not draining the tank often. And when you get the manifold, its a 50/50 chance you get a good one. 2 main things ive been told. And most of the time, it says the Right Rear sensor is no good.
Where did you get those things you can put at the end of the lines to air up bro what are they called or where exactly did you get them
Its called a PTC valve. On Bagriders website. Its in the description below
Mine does the same thing but when I drive it goes back to normal psi what can that be ?
I think the same thing is happening to you. Thats like the beginning stage. Because i would notice it too. It would act funny a little. Until it got worse and then stopped working on me.
A bro? I got a question I'm hoping you can help me with. I just yesterday installed 3P airlift performance. It raises up fast as hell. But when I air out, trying to lower it, its super slow. Airing out is NOTHING LIKE airing up. Why? I have. 2012 dodge challenger with 3/8 air lines with universal air bags on my stock struts. Is there I can adjust or open the vent/exhaust? To get it to air out faster. Please. I looked online I can't find anything on it. Maybe I'm using the wrong words to describe it? Or?
Its the same for me. Airing up is faster then airing out. I have 3/8 line also. From what i seen in other builds, its like that. Im not 100% sure what controls it. But i think thats how the management is. I could be wrong tho
I heard that. That makes me sad. Thanks man
Great video. You recommend going with the 3/8” lines as opposed to the 1/4”? Going back and forth and trying to find out if there’s much of a difference and if the 3/8” is too fast or 1/4” too slow. Looking at this system for 2016 Jetta. Thanks!
Thanks! Yea i would say it depends what you are looking for. 3/8 fills up the tank faster and airs out quicker. 1/4 does the opposite. It also depends how many compressors you get. To me, 1/4 was too slow. You could also look up some videos to see the difference between the 2. I air out and air up in my most recent video and i have 3/8.
My airlines are 1/4 with airrunner struts and I like how slow they are and plus i have my airlines inside the car so 1/4 would fit well running through the rocker panel.
Yea. 1/4 lines is still a good way to go.
How long b4 you had notice your manifold was failing on you? Bc this video is two years old.
On the spot. Some say if the psi is off to far. Thats a sign.
Mine just did the same thing the controller doesn’t turn on and I had that same code wat fuse are you talking about
So there is a fuse for the air suspension itself. For like the electronics (controller/manifold) Theres probably 1 or 2 fuses. Its not part of the car fuse box.
Great video bro, I had no idea those existed. A great insurance policy to have on hand
Joseph Siclari, Esq. Thanks man. Just trying to spread the word!
Great video dude! I plan on getting air suspension as well on my Z, and I was wondering have you encountered to any other problems or any complain with the 3P setup?
Thanks man! No other problems so far. Just make sure you drain the tank of water from time to time.
Whats that shrader valve that you can connect to the air hose if the ECU goes bad?
(PTC) Inflation Valve on Bagriders
Thank you bro!
Hey bro what did you tell bag riders Bc I have the same problem and it keeps burning my fuses but they keep acting dumb and asking me more things to do that I’ve already done 🤦🏻♂️
I told them that the module went bad. And that i need a new one. Because i was still under the warranty.
Bro this just happened to me in my e46 while i was out , luckily i was aired up enough to drive home. Inconvenient af , time to go back static.
😂😂 yea it sucks sometimes. It only happened once to me. Static is nice too!
Problem I'm having is one bag thr rear passenger side always reads 20 psi more than it should so if I set it at 50psi it will go to 70 on its own, no idea what's wrong.
It might happen soon. Mine was kinda acting like that at first too. Drain the tank and make sure theres no water in the system. Is your manifold below or above the tank?
Did you get this taken care of? I just put my system in (Brand New) and the same exact thing is happening to me. The system puts w.e pressures it wants
You still got the old manifold?
Brandon Holmes Na i dont. You said it back to get the new one.
Mine kept saying low voltage and my remote turned off completely is it due to manifold or would it be faulty connection ?
I would check the fuses, loose connections and was the car all the way turned on? Mine says low voltage when my car isnt fully on. Because its draining power.
Hey! how and where can i get it with bluetooth?
I got my kit online off Bagriders. The 3P system comes with bluetooth.
Hey great video, thinking about bagging my 7 series. What is the name of those valves though. It sounds like a good insurance especially if your on the road and the system goes out.
Schrader valve
PTC 3/8 valve. Link in description
How did you drive it home if you couldn’t air it back up??
I was leaving a car meet. I aired up. Left the parking lot and on the highway it went out.
I need help my bags on my Gs300 stop working all of a sudden. I had it sitting for maybe 2 weeks and usually when i start it my controller turns on and im able to raise it but for some reason my controller doesnt turn on neither does my compressor
Have you checked the fuses?
Check every ground. Dont ground to the body. Ground to the frame. Use big wire for grounds also.
Manifold is supposed to be mounted above the tank to eliminate water from getting into the manifold
Yea i agree. A couple of people have told me that. I havent changed it tho. I just drain it often.
What are the fitting that you can put air in called
PTC valve i believe. Link is in the description
Airlift states that the manifold should be mounted higher than the supply port from the tank, I wonder if your failure is due to moisture building up inside the manifold as it’s effectively the low point in your system. - Just a thought on how this failure could be prevented.
That would make sense. I didnt see that. I appreciate it🙋🏻♂️
Bro what are those connections called where you air it up manually?
Landon Serrano (PTC) Inflation Valve on Bagriders.
A1Brian thanks bro!
My car is stuck aired all the way up . It won’t even let me go back to my preset ride height or air out
Did the management go out on you?
Dope video. My controller won’t even turn on when I start the car and I don’t hear the compressors, Bluetooth won’t connect either. Should I replace my manifold?
Did the message “pressure sensor failure” come on? Check the fuse and see if it burnt out.
@@A1Brian where’s the fuse of the airlift suspension, mine is doing the same thing
Did you install it yourself? It depends where they put the fuse if you had someone else install it.
I have a airlift system that was working perfectly fine until I went to auto and someone unplugged my negative terminal from my battery, now I get no power to my controller or compressor
Dam. Check the fuses and look for loose connections
What's the name or link for the parts you got at the end?
E G Those fittings are called Pace Inflation valve (PTC) on bagriders. I saw them for 3/8 line and 1/4 line
A1Brian Thanks! Never heard of those. Gotta have those!
My manifold was messed up within a day after installed.
Oooo. Yea it was probably defective from the start
I had the same issue before, blew a fuse consistently, found out it was a bad ground
Yea thats another thing i heard happens
I have that same issue just happened today but I never had that code before
Where did you buy the kit from?
@@A1Brian from airlift been trying to contact them for the past day but no reply /:
Any problems lately? I ordered one and now im scared...
Jason Enfinger No problems yet!
Broo you safe me from the extra fuse I’ve been buying. I’ve been searching for the problem for a min now.
Nicee!! Glad i could help!
Hello,Why my presets never stay the same ? Even when i click it to set my presets will not reach what i preseted. Also Airtank is losing PSI when i drive or over the night when car is parked , when i go to start the car my PSI is low, is this normal?
You might have a leak somewhere. Check all you fittings and connections.
I just got mine installed today aired it up drove around aired it down and back up and my controller shut off too
Has it given you any codes? Or a fuse go out?
Hey whats up bro, when calibrating everything is smooth until it reaches “checking rear”. It stays froze and doesn’t do anything. Why is that?How long should calibration take?
Jonathan Guzman Calibrating should take like 5 minutes to do. Has it passed “checking rear” since or does it still do it?
A1Brian still stays stuck bro, reason i did calibration is because i wasn’t able to air up. Rear psi would show 100psi on screen but its sitting aired out. The buttons were not doing anything.
@@jonathanguzman4552 the samething is happening to me right now but stays stuck on checking front, sometimes it gets stuck on checking rear and the bags say 140 psi but still on the ground unable to drive. Were you able to solve it?
Yo same bro,have you figured out why?
I'm having the same issue. Showed up with pressure sensor failure on rear left. So reset the system and it needed calibrating when calibrating the rear end it stopped doing anything and just froze. Waited 10 mins and nothing tried it 2 more times. I think its the manifold moisture is in there. So iv removed and placed inside the house over night recommended by forums. hopefully gets rid of the moisture. Also manifold is mean to be places above tank height, mines below so this must also be a problem
I have a horrible leak somewhere....all my air pressure from the tank gets drained to 0.....I've sprayed all the fittings and nothing is leaking...I'm stumped...could it be the pressure switch being bad?
Yea it can possibly the pressure switch. Have you checked it since?
@@A1Brian it was my check valve coming off the compressor...the pressure switch is inside manifold
Mine too says fault sensor it is at 266 psi but it’s at 0 the front left so probably definitely need new manifold but confused also because my compressors don’t kick on at all so I may just have to get those additional pieces to air up the car for now
Dam! Thats really high psi. Have you check the fuses? Those pieces do come in handy
@@A1Brian yeah they’re clear no fuse has burned I did hear a leak in the manifold so maybe this all happened because I took my car out of town when this snow storm came to Texas it snowed I knew the cold temperatures would effect the pressure so I kept my car all the way Aired up the next day it was snowed out I could still drive then coming back home the car was getting lower losing pressure I had to stop 2 times wait 20 min each time for it to warm up a little the compressors kicked in and I drive home slowly then it just aired out all the way I couldn’t air it back up the compressors never kicked on so maybe because it froze over and messed up the manifold
Oh i see. Did you drain the tank of water? Its possible water freeze up
@@A1Brian yeah it’s drained I even checked the lines nothing frozen I have an auto water trap
I was able to air the car up with a separate compressor external fill the tank with air to fill the bags but was only temporary only aired up 3 bags front left kept airing out since the manifold was reading fault sensor kept air out down the front left and I even checked the bag nothing wrong with it but definitely going to get those individual tips for the lines to fill manually
Cool video but u dont need those extra fittings because you wont know the pressure and u can pop a bag
Thanks. I have them if i still need to use the car. Other wise the car will stay aired out and it wont move. They are for temporary use
Would water do that to the manifold?
Yea i believe so. They say to mount the manifold above the tank to prevent the problem
Did u check the fuse first?
Yes i did
How did you do the warranty exchange did you just called up bag Raiders
Yea i called them and spoke to Keith. He said to mail it out to them and they would take care of it because it was still under warranty. Then they sent me a new one.
A1Brian Do you know if it affects it if you bought it in 2018 because I hear it has limited lifetime warranty but I bought it from bag raiders not directly from airlift
Im not 100% on that. But i bought mine from Bag Riders also. Mine went within 8 months and they said to exchange it. I dont know how long the warranty last. I wanna say a year or 2.
@@lilwickidsickside13 my airlift manifold leaked this week and emailed Keith over at Bagriders and started the warranty exchange. Had my Airlift manifold for about over six years! Doing a manifold swap on channel soon. Airrunner x Airlift x T-Demand x SSR
@@A1Brian Shout out to Keith! He was great helping me out. Needing to send out my manifold soon!
I'm considering air bags. Is it worth it and reliable? It seems like there a lot of issues that can happen.
With air suspension, problems can come up. I have Airlift 3P. So far ive only had the manifold issue. Other then that nothing else. It also depends on how its installed. If you install it careless, then you are asking for problems. If you drain the tank regularly and keep up with maintenance, then you should be fine.
@@A1Brian . I was just going to get some lowering springs and call it day lol but i figure bags would be more convenient since you can go up and down. Is the tank something you have to replace often?
Bags are more expensive than springs. The convenience is good. You dont have to change the tank. It just holds air. You have to drain the tank of water tho.
Bags are great at a luxury. Worth it? Yes. Reliable? Of course! Its a car parts are machine lots of problems can and will happen thus needs fixing. I have bags on my car for six years and hardly drive it and still holding air till this week where my manifold took a leak. Emailed Bagriders and I’m in the process of getting a free replacement! Hoping to install it on my channel! Airrunner x Airlift x T-Demand x SSR
same thing happened to me, they swapped it out and all is good
Ive heard it happen to a couple of people
Had the same problem but only had to swap the fuse
That happened to me once before
What stereo you have?
Hector Arias Coaxial Alpine speakers all around. 600W Kicker amp for the speakers. 1200W Kicker amp for the sub. 12” Alpine Type S subwoofer in ported box. 1.0 capacitor. The radio is from online, i dont know the brand or specs tho.
@@A1Brian Thanks bro
Hector Arias No problem!
bro can you help me something? i hasn’t been able to use my car cus of it i just got a question
Yea sure
@@A1Brian my right side back is slowly losing pressure? is that a bad line? because i checked my bag and it’s good and i got a new manifold and it won’t calibrate and im thinking is cus of that
Grab a spray bottle and put water and soap. Spray your connections, tank and lines to the bag and see if it starts bubbling somewhere. Thats one way to find leaks. Make sure to be on a flat surface when you calibrate too.
@@A1Brian nothing is leaking bro but when i get to the “checking front” on calibration it never continues and gives me pressure sensor error after
Mmm. Thats tricky. Could be the manifold they gave you. You drain the tank too? Get all the water out?
Isn't that manifold supposed to be installed above the tank?
Yea thats what ive been told by some people. It helps with the water. But thats how the shop installed it.
@@A1Brian I'm about to install this system in my ride, it's being shipped. Besides this, any other issue with 3p? How long have you had it so far? I'm Just stressed a bit about the reliability of this setup.
Na. No other issues. Just the manifold. Ive had it for 2 years. Nothing else has happened. As long as its installed good. You should be good.
@@A1Brian thanks man. Much appreciate it
@@A1Brian installed above the tank how? Like upside down or just make a little piece of wood above the tank that holds it?
A update just bricked my p3 set up.
Why...
Dam that sucks. I havent had that happen yet
Haha howd you bricked your p3
@@jbpasion071 trying to update firmware in a 4th story parking garage. Guess the data got funky transferi.g
@@yankenthesouth deng sorry to hear! Maybe a call from Airlift can help you out?
@@jbpasion071 ya. I called them and changed out the controller
Dope video homie. Preciate tha heads up on what to look for. Installing the 3p on my 2014 yote got a cinamatic film of the build being put together. Tap in wit me fam. Ill sub to you 🤘🏾💪🏾
Thanks man! Enjoy the 3P system. Subbed!
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Had same problem. You got water in the manifold. It’s safe to drive . Just contact airlift and send them $250 and they’ll send another one so you can still keep your old one. Once you get the new one just send them your old one for refund. Also, that trunk setup could be a lot better. I had airlift on my 540i and all you can see is the 8 gallon tank. You can hide everything else so it’s a cleaner setup.
Vinh Nguyen They told me just to send it back and i will get the new one in a few day. I didnt have to pay. I was under warranty still. I am still working on my setup. I have a few more ideas. My setup is different from this video now. I made another video on the new setup.
@@A1Brian Correct, if you send them yours first, you pay for the shipping, they will send you another one free. However if you can't take your manifold out because you need the car to get to and from work etc. then you can pay the $250 and they will send you one and when you return the old one they will refund you your security deposit.
You took the manifold out without airing out?
I had to air out and take the air out the tank too
How'd you do it if the controller and bluetooth app wasnt working?
I wanna find out too,because the air in the tank is posible but those air on the bags,,,how??
I added a good fuse really quick so the controller would come on until i got home. Got home and aired out the bags completely. Then aired out the tank. Disconnected the battery. Disconnected the harness on the manifold. Then disconnected the airlines and took the manifold off.
You’re manifold shouldn’t be lower than the tank bro.... Water is running back into the manifold! FYI.
Binniemar Binniemar Yea i figured that out after the install😂😂 im going to see if i can make a mount for the manifold to be higher up. Thanks bro!
Problem will be that the manifold is lower then the tank from what I have read up
I also read that. I might make a mount so the manifold sits the same level or higher then the tank
I would have it above the tank as condensation builds up in the tank and manifold
Andrew nixon Yea thats true. I will see what i can do. Thanks!
There is time it’s not the manifold you might have just blown out a fuse
I did blow a fuse but it kept happening. I swapped out the manifold and everything has been good
“ECU NOT FOUND”🤦🏽♂️
Thats what your controller is saying?
@@A1Brian yes
@@A1Brian do you know how I can fix it?
Not 100% sure. Did you try connecting with your phone?
@@A1Brian yes but it says that it’s not able to connect,. “ not in pairing mode”
M having the same issue, it started with the controller glistening on/off, slowly it start to die but good thing I thought about the apps, it didn’t link until my controller started acting funny, after it was like then it died, M now using the apps on my iPhone 6s but since I had to upgrade to iPhone X, it won’t let me download it or link it to two phone, I thought it was the controller so I call airlift customer support and they were kind enough to send me new controlller but it’s doing the same thing so I’ll go with the manifold since it keep saying ECU not found. I don’t know how expensive or or if they can replace it like they did the controller
Sounds more towards the manifold. If you are within warranty then you shouldnt have to pay anything.