"You Can't BEAR The Truth!" Lord Heseltine Blasts TalkTV Hosts Over Brexit
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- Piers Morgan Uncensored hosted by Richard Tice and Isabel Oakeshott takes a dramatic turn as the pair are joined by former Deputy Prime Minister Lord Michael Heseltine to debate whether the Government should accept that Brexit has failed.
Remainer Lord Heseltine thinks you only need to look at the newspapers to accept "Brexit is dead" - but Isabel argues that the process of leaving the EU has only been held up because of people like him.
Former Brexit MEP Ann Widdecombe and family lawyer Paula Rhone-Adrien also have their say after Heseltine ends his interview by giving Richard and Isabel a good telling-off...
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Heseltine is correct. The sooner we're back in the EU the better. So sick of this collective idiocy. This crap is like watching Fox News.
A conversation is not constantly interrupting the other person. I would have liked to hear more from Lord Heseltine.
The guys is asking a question and gets mad when people answer 🤣
The problem is this isn't a conversation its content for youtube etc. You cant dicuss this in 8 minutes
This whole interview is a joke... Hesseltine should have ignored this bunch of idiots...
Absolutely. This happens all the time with this programme.
Micheal Heseltline is right and I voted for Brexit. Immigration is even worse now, from even worse countries. The Tories are responsible. They've really done a number on this country. 12 years of misery and decay is enough.
Never a fan of Heseltine when he was in Thatcher's government, but in this company he's a giant and a voice of reason opposing idiocy. Respect.
Nonsense.. he's an ideological.. lunatic!
💯 agree
100%
Eh no……..he’s a grumpy old man with no respect for democracy………
Helseltine said nothing, he made some claim from a newspaper, then denies remoaners have done everything to stop brexit. It's laughable.
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This looks like 2 bots meeting for the first time!! 😂
Lord Heseltine was treated disgracefully and unprofessionally. It isn't a conversation when the hosts shout down a guest. Outrageous behaviour. This isn't a conversation.
There's no point letting a person carry on with a point when the premise is flawed
@@judewestburner depends on the perspective. To say flawed expresses a bias. And a subjective opinion. You could be wrong. But ideas are important and should be expressed and debated. No argument is over just because some people say it is so. Ideas can not always be dismissed. And those that dismiss them out of hand wish to silence debate. There are no absolutes and opinions can be changed. This is a democratic society after all. With respect and discourse. Surely that is the way of enlightenment and not fascism. And those with passion will not be silenced by people that express that their opinions are flawed. Unless you can offer a counter argument to your assertions then your opinions too are flawed.
@@christiantamminen8998 "people are one thousand pounds less well of because of Brexit" that's not an idea, it's not even clever or helpful in any shape, and worst of all it's not even a little bit true. Why would you let that go without correcting the record? If you don't you're going to let him build on top of that lie whilst waiting patiently for the time to be chewed up.
What is outrageous is that Heseltine and his tribe are trying to reverse a democratic vote! What next? Reverse the next election result if they don't like it? Smacks of anti-democracy to me.
They show far too much respect for the old turd. Incidentally, the interruptions went both ways.
Won’t interrupt someone who agrees with their agenda, but will constantly talk over someone who questions it. Is this where British journalism has come????
Correction; we left three years ago.
Agree with everything you said
🤗👍
This isn't journalism. What crud!
With Tice heading the populist 'Reform UK' and Oakeshott extatic about his every word like a lioness fighting for her mate - I'm impressed that Heseltine managed to say a word or two. Must be the peerage - still has some weight in securing one's time slot.
Journalism? 😂😂😂
Sorry, I’m from the U.S., so I’m not really educated on this. Is Brexit not working? I was hoping it would work out for all of you. Has it at least helped immigration wise? Wasn’t that one of the reasons? If you’re a part of the EU don’t you have to allow a certain percentage of “asylum seekers?” Or something like that?
"Lord Heseltine, we are very grateful you coming on the show".. ..."I bet you're not!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They got their arse handed to them.
Isabella looks so uncomfortable as a presenter.
Is there anything professional about her?
Classic from the canny old Lord!
👍😂
we had covid for 3 years and then the ukrainian war Remainer seem to forget this
Heseltine is not really alive you know ,hes been dead for years
Talk TV is an embarrassment
Try his lot makes me sick to the gut disgraceful racist Britannia is dead
The look of contempt in Heseltine's eyes is fantastic 😄
Fantastically typical of him, that is.🙄
@@dixonpinfold2582 The feeling of contempt towards Tice and his fellow charlatans is fantastically typical of the vast majority of the British public.
@@jonb5493 Fascinating.
AGREE
@@dixonpinfold2582
And true
"Would you rejoin the EU or get the job done properly?"
"I'd get the job done properly by rejoining the EU" - Legend!!! Gotta love this guy!
The UK public never voted to join the EU organisation in the first place to 'rejoin'.
rejoin the EU
@@jasonkingshott2971 Kinda did Jayo
@@dickdiver9614 Just remind us all of that date.
@jasonkingshott2971 The kinda was a reminder of the European vote under Ted Heath in the early 70's Jayo, bit before your time one would imagine.
This group of individuals has led us from one calamity to another and their only excuse is that it’s someone else’s fault.
If you are stinking rich like the people on this show it doesn't matter
if brexit is a failure, in or out of the EU the working class will
still suffer because capitalism is the real problem/ issue, ,it is
obviously present but is avoided as a subject for discussion.
@@markedwardsuk I have no idea what this is about. I'm from Germany.
@@BruceBoschek This is called TH-cam, you can post videos from anywhere in the world, which can led to good or bad reviews. 😏
@@markedwardsuk But, I didn't knowingly post here. I'm not even vaguely interested in politics.
@@BruceBoschek I would change your password, someone has posted from your account and that post has now been deleted, you may have been hacked.
This whole show is the definition of Orwellian!
they hope to dictate the narrative
It's not just the narrative they seek to dictate ! As the EU claws more "competencies" (power) to Brussels it becomes ever more willing to selectively bare its teeth at its disobedient "regions", after all "Vee haf ze tools" as Van De Leyen so eloquently put it 😬
Absolutely! 💩🤡👹
You haven't read Orwell have you?
@@Bobmudu35UK There’s no need to actually read George Orwell. He simply describes English war-propaganda in 1984 and Russian soviet-propaganda in Animal Farm. If you know authoritarianism, literature won’t tell you anything new.
As an Australian, I laugh at how Britain shot itself in the foot with Brexit. An Economics 101 student knows that was a dumb decision that was never going to deliver what the proponents promised!
I think you meant the remainers mp would put the spanner in the works to slow the process to a snail pace house of lords being another prime example it was case of the establishment not wanting to obey a democratic vote
The gimmick on the NHS was good enough for any idiot to know this was all bullshit.
Ah but you forgot that the average UK voter isn't as intelligent as any Economics 101 student! Not even a 10 year old, maybe a cucumber
Economics is far more complex than that. The UK economy will outperform most EU economies
@@stuwhite2337 Ya... We're seeing that happen.
At least the rest of us in Europe are no longer part of this insufferable discussion. Best of luck to you UK.
There isn't a 'rest of us in Europe' who love the EU. Plenty want to leave. European Union would be great but it doesn't exist at the moment with or without the UK.
@@stuwhite2337 With the Brexit 'success' as an example, the amount of EU citizens that do like to leave has fallen. On average it is about 13,5% now. (Source: ESS - led by City, University of London and conducted in 30 European nations every two years since 2001.) Example: Support for a Dutch 'Nexit' did go down from 23% in 2016, to 13.5% this year.
@@user-sn4sl6hx3gmost Dutch people I have met want OUT of the EUSSR
@@user-sn4sl6hx3gfacts 😂
@@user-sn4sl6hx3g Erm. Who just won the Dutch Election?
As a Labour voter Heseltine is a legend here 👍
He's telling the truth, and apparently he cares for the country
I remember after the riots in the early 1980s, Heseltine was the only government minister to go to the affected areas and try to see what the problems were. A Tory, yes, and I wouldn't have voted for him, but he was and is a politician I can respect.
@@hederahelix622 Yeah...country named Germany
No mention that UK paid more to UE that take from etc.
@@bartbart6545 Look mate. We've cut ourselves off from the largest trading partner literally on our doorstep.
And guess what, you can't sell anything to the EU without conforming to their laws, so this idea of sovereignty is a bunch of nonsense.
Every UK country that used to sell to the EU has now stopped with their UK shops, they've moved their warehouses to Europe and incorporated over there because of the red tape.
So no UK warehouses, no UK truckers.
Good luck picking raspberries because who would do that apart from dirt poor Eastern Europeans?
The smart thing to do would have been to stay in and negotiate different terms, i.e. things like migration quotas so certain communities in the UK didn't feel overwhelmed.
What actually happened was a total eff up and it's going to get worse.
The whole thing was an exercise by Boris Johnson to get power, nothing to do with the good of the country.
Yes, that knut who had lockdown parties whilst everyone else had to stay inside, obviously a man of the people.
If you want to say you wanted Brexit because it was either that or learn to speak Polish is one thing, but the solution that was presented was wrong and is going to make a lot of poor people even poorer.
@@hederahelix622 no. He’s a staunch federalist.
Well done Lord Heseltine…
Really? He sounds like an arrogant old git who lost the plot. EU is a pure disaster and will fall apart soon.
It’s like the old man had to come back with the Grace of Jesus to speak out the mafia media nazi hipsters
Yes well done for giving bitter remoaners some pleasure in life
Not a fan but we'll said tarzan.
Well done for showing what a fool he is
Should be renamed ‘Talk Bollocks TV’
Isabel Oakeshott brought absolutely nothing to the table except personal opinions. Why she is hosting this show is incredible to me.
She's a waste of space - jusat there for eye candy.
Maybe she took one Oakeshott to many?
@@MrSHWP1 shut up man
Hesetine was the one tasked with implementing the EU policy/directive to shut down the British coal industry because Brussels had decided that Poland was to supply the EU with coal. (way before we had any 'Net Zero' warriors). He didn't care a damn about the harm and suffering this caused to thousands of British working class families and whole communities. At that time the coal industry was still a great benefit to the nation. Heseltine is not worth listening to he is so tainted with his own acts working for the benefit of the EU. I am sure that he was well recompensed for his treachery.
She is Tices girlfriend
I actually feel less informed after watching this.
lmao
That tends to be the pattern when these two people are doing the interview. As a non-Brit who would like to get an understanding on the issue this platform is not it.
Brexit was a mistake from the very start and Britain is just beginning to realise that fact.
That doesn't mean the pro-brexit spoofers and hacks have gone away. They are still there trying to convince you that reality is not what you can clearly see with your own eyes.
How could that possibly be?! How ill informed were you before you saw this? And how could you still be confused on Brexit? Honestly, i give up!
Must be a brexiter or thick! It’s simple, it has been a six year mess, nothing that was put in place works the country is a colossal mess! Why is this hard to grasp look around you! You put stupid people in place and they did stupid things and the country is suffering from that stupid act which you have now made yourself willfully ignorant of!
It was 6 years ago, they had 4 years to plan, but simply, they didn't get it done.
7 in fact. We left officially at the end of January 2020 - entered in the 12 month "divorce" period. So now over 3 years since the UK officially, if not completely, separated from the EU.
And we had an "oven-ready plan". So no more excuses, unless your dog ate the plan!
Its the re moaners who are stopping it.
We will get there in the end
@@garyt.8745
The brexit referendum has been so hard to deliver because voters were deceived. 🤣
Isabel Oakeshott is a nightmare
.. A nightmare... why????
No she's the dream ticket
Narcissistic spoilt child
She is like that person at school who had above average grades but thinks she’s a straight A student
Brexit has failed because off our spineless MPs
Heseltines one of the idle rich who think they were put on this earth to run things and tell the rest of us plebs what to do.
Exactly. You can see he is used to being right all the time, old hezza. Shaddapp - espesh if you're a lay-dee.
Lord Heseltine is spot on . These clowns don’t have a clue.
👏👏👏yep no clue at all!!
Like Heseltine wasn't a absolute clown when he was a Minster .. even Maggie got shut of the dumb fool😅
He wanted us to join the ERM and the Euro.
Well said
He couldn't even sell Concorde to British Airways 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
That is the worse interview I have heard in some time. If you ask a question, listen to the answer. Even if you disagree. There is nothing to be gained by not allowing the opposition to express their opinion.
The win goes to the Lord 😅
That's only because you want back in let me tell you it's not going to happen
He lost seven years ago , he just hasn't learnt to accept reality .
Lord Heseltine well done, it is good to see a true politician on show, Richard Tice and Isabel Oakeshott have no idea how to speak to anyone with at the least polite respect. 🥵
I wouldn't want to argue a weak position against Michael Heseltine.
I believe you debating every subject would be a waste of everyones time
If your prepared to stick £90,000 per year in his back pocket like the EU did, Heseltine will argue any position you like for you ! 🤑👍
@@garymoore2535 and the rest. If only he could of shown such passion for the less fortunate in our society when he was in politics, but there’s no money to be made from that.
The way to help the less fortunate in society is to start them off with a good education and work ethic. They will then have good opportunities to help themselves......and others. Unfortunately, some fools replaced our Grammar Schools with.....ahem... "Comprehensives" and catchment areas. Simultaneously wrecking any chance those of humble origins of getting a good quality education or achieving in life.
@@garymoore2535 Greedy old mercenary.
Well done Michael. The Brexiteers totally ignore the years they had to plan and negotiate Brexit arrangements. In the early days David Davis arrived in Brussels to negotiate with no preparation or notes. You would criticise a junior office clerk for such tardiness. Michael got it absolutely right, they talk over and blame remainers for their Brexit failures. Unfortunately we all have to pay for this mess.
You are 100%correct!
Leaving the EU wasn't a policy , it was a slogan, it was a jolly jape for Bojo and chums and it's led to a shit standard of living and a shit future for most of v those who voted for it, well done , glad I don't live in the country anymore
Right. The Government did nothing to prepare for Brexit. Ann Widdicombe is a annoying, shrill, hectoring person.
@@patriot1066 whatever you say, this fact remains, the right made a mess of this. That is just the truth!
@@blacksling9 how have we managed to go through 4 prime ministers in one and a bit terms, its because they were to busy arguing about brexit rather than doing what the people voted.
Hesseltine always did answer the question. And he didn't care whether you liked the answer. He is on form here.
When you do not understand that the guests are supposed to speak longer than you as the host.
It's Piers Morgan's show. To be fair all shows are the same these days.
Wait till you listen to James O`Brien!
I listen to James o, and he let his guess speak! Then he points out their bull shit, this is nothing like James!
@@andypandyhall4561 If you actually listened to James OBrien ?
@@AlfDagg I refer you to FOX and its paymasters who are also morgans paymasters.
With the exception of Lord H, this is like watching the Muppet Show. 🤪🤪🤪
Are the two presenters being held at gunpoint? They clearly don’t believe a word they’re saying. Blink twice if you’re in danger.
Lord Heseltine is probably correct that they are using a formula to get the punters in the door.
Both are Enoch’s in de guise
3:20 LoL roasted with the same logic as her own LoL
@@jossangeles4011 wow I can’t believe how much tv gets away with
Isabel Oakeshott is an arch-Brexiteer, working closely in past few years with Lord Michael Ashcroft (the largest individual donor? to the Conservative Party) on matters of political research & polling and also vehemently anti-lockdown and very sceptical about most measures during Covid outbreak. She was the political editor of the Times and is International Editor of TalkTV. She is very much herself and in character during this interview.
Richard Tice was deputy to Nigel Farage in the Brexit Party and now leader of the Reform Party - a populist, "libertarian", certainly right-wing outfit that exists to keep Tory's in line with absurd ideas such as Brexit. He is very much himself and in character during this interview.
Isabel Oakeshott & Richard Tice have been literally shagging one another since 2018.
Michael Heseltine seemed bored shitless. Off form really.
Cant remember ever being a fan of this man but this was absolute gold, well done Mikey!
I’ve been a fan since he addressed a hostile students union meeting in 1984 with skill, good manners, grace and a determination to speak his mind!
@@patriot1066 I'm Irish. We're in the EU and are in the euro zone.We are better off per capita than the UK. Why do you think the UK was going to end up like Greece by remaining in the EU? You are aptly named, because English nationalism will break up the union. Scotland will leave in a reasonably short time and hopefully rejoin the EU. I would bet my bottom dollar that Scotland would thrive
@@jimmysavage9061 I’m from the U.S., so I’m really not educated on this. Can a country be a EU member and not allow asylum seekers into their country? I remember Hungary getting a whole lot of hate for wanting to protect their culture, language, and religion.
@@WiseNiteSilicone Again, in Ireland, because we have a history of being forced to emigrate for a multitude of reasons, amongst them being starved to death as a people by a foreign colonial power, we have a deep understanding of how immigrants to our country should be treated. They have thrived and in many instances have become more Irish than the Irish themselves. Therefore, there is absolutely no danger of us losing our traditions and our culture. On the issue of asylum seekers, we take as many as is humanly possible, because again, our history as a nation has taught us that we were once in the same position and have "learned" from our history. There is free movement of all EU citizens between each member state and we have various rights whilst doing so (like moving between states in America). The UK has pulled out of the EU largely based on English nationalism and far right political ideals. Any economist would confirm that it was financial suicide to do this. Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU, which paves the way firstly for Scottish independence and consequently a united Ireland.
@@jimmysavage9061 Never thought I’d see the day where there would be a united Ireland. Even though I’m from the US, and only in my 30s, I love the history of the IRA. Heard it still exists, but it sounds like today they’re primarily a bunch of kids that feel like they missed out on the action.
I myself am a conservative, which for Europe, means I’d probably be very far right. But, if what you say is true, seems like a foolish move to me. I care about the economy more than I do anything else. I was just always under the impression that being an EU member took away freedom of choice. That there were some strict guidelines that needed to be followed. Again, the flack that was given to Hungary was even reported here, and I really don’t blame them. Not the biggest fan of Hungary today, but I can’t blame them for that.
As for the Irish and mass immigration or asylum seekers to the UK, I don’t see how the two are comparable. The Irish are on their land. With their culture. Not millions upon millions leaving to countries with a very contrasting culture and background. Sure, in the past Irish had moved to the US in large numbers, but not like this. Not even close. Plus they are much more similar culturally. Their way of life was not much different from the people that had already settled here for centuries.
Hats off to Lord Heseltine🎉
These people keep saying we are not using the benefits of Brexit yet never name them.
There are no benefits.
Oakeshott always has that revolting superior look on her face.
Thats not a superior look . Thats a blank look that of idiocy.
Sickening smugness.
It’s borne out of a deep sense of shallowness. Her manners are impeccably awful, always…
And SO DO CORRUPT MPS!
She's gone full Fox News
There is a proverb that says 'better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt' I think this applies to Isobel Oakeshott and her peers.
Not a proverb, a quote from Mark Twain
@samsteve1000 that's really interesting, things like this fascinate me.....I just googled and found it attributed to a few, the most notable being Abraham Lincoln....apparently the root of it does originate from the book of proverbs in the Bible which says...
"Even a fool, when he holds his peace, is counted wise: and he that shuts his lips is esteemed a man of understanding".
Sarah........as the EU paid Heseltine £90,000 per year for doing absolutely nothing you get a better idea concerning his motives.......you might actually want to take your own council ? 🙈
@Gary Moore let's not forget they also paid Farage and he rarely turned up.
@Sarah Farnes And Farage lives comfortably on the £290,000 pension he gets from his time in the EU parliament. Hypocrisy doesn't begin to cover it!
These presenters are the best example off the problems Britain has.
They're doing the job they're paid to do - literally. His Lordship turned up pretty well prepared for them but that simply induced a Ramping Up of the hosts' Shouting Down.
If you can call holding up a copy of a Daily Telegraph Cartoon well prepared ?....of course he really should have been holding up the £90,000 PER YEAR that the EU quite literally paid him to do......NOTHING ! Famously Heseltine cited possible "war" as a reason to remain......a Mace swinging Tory Grandee that could not even sell Concorde to British Airways !! 🙈
Looking from the outside... UK, laughing stock of the world.
Our immigration policies are definitely a laughing stock
'Oh crap...Lord Hesseltine is totally schooling us...let's cut to...er...Anne Widdecombe... that'll sort it!' 🤦🏻♂️ Absolute desperation.
He is isn't though
@@spinynorman8217 Yes he is. 🥳
Well done, Mr. Heseltine, he said what we all know. They can't BEAR the truth, and the truth was in fact that they should have taken action 6 years ago, he's quite right. I don't agree with his politics, but I admire the man. She was so incredibly rude to him.
Heseltine was on the EU gravey train to the tune of millions ! His maths also appears to have failed him. Great Britain actually left the EU just 2 years ago. The referendum to leave was decided 6 years ago, however, it took 4 years of complex negotiation against a background of resistance and delay from the establishment (of which Lord Heseltine was a part). The fact that Heseltine continues to attempt to obfuscate the actual date of leaving demonstrates his continued willingness to lie through his teeth.
@@garymoore2535 How come the UK politicians only just found out about Brexit 2 years ago?
Why did nobody tell them about it after the vote so that they could start preparing for it?
It must have been a terrible shock for them to suddenly learn about it just two years ago. 🙂
They can't bear the truth that they were not lied to, but they were just STUPID hahahahaha
Same. Mr. Heseltine comes across with honour and speaks the raw truth. The female presenter was particularly condescending to him. As for her brainless colleague asserting the nhs were receiving more than 350 million a week. How dare he..
Twaddle.....Did you hear Mr Heseltine mention that the EU used to pay him £90,000 a year........for doing absolutely nothing......... no, I didn't think so .....and that is what we know about ?
Widdecomb must have England’s most grating voice.
Who wants to listen to a 70-year-old virgin? What does she know of real life?
Heseltine was paid millions of pounds from the EU for not farming his land. So to say he has a vested interest in the UK rejoining EU is an understatement.
What a pathetic point, John. Does he look like he's scraping by?
@@brianbell3836 Nope, but your reply had me notice the typo from the original post. Thanks 😎
@@johnwilson5637I try and ignore things like that.
Tice and Oakeshott - dragging down the IQ of any room they enter.
They would drag down the IQ of a pack of pekinese . YAP YAP YAP .
I feel thicker for watching this
To think that anbody would actually believe this twaddle. The government of the day made a pigs ear of Brexit. Utterly shameful and an insult to anybody who voted to leave the EU.
No it went sky high.
Along with you 😂
Lord Heseltine trying to answer their question's while they're interrupting him, then calling them out for why they are doing it. Brilliant, he just shows the how low quality of politicians has fallen to such low levels today.
You could not get any lower than being a undemocratic hypocrite like Heseltine.
@@snowyowel7961 So you've never heard of Boris Johnson then?
@@petefl1818Where have i said I've never heard of Boris.
Out of all the undemocratic mps in the commons Boris is the one who delivered on our country's democracy.
All the other remainer mps tried to thwart brexit from the onset including heseltine.
@@petefl1818
You give in very easily. 👍
@@snowyowel7961 Give up do I? perhaps, but I don't waste my time on an idiot who writes this garbage "Boris is the one who delivered on our country's democracy"
Never in my life did I think I’d agree with heseltine, I respect him , certainly after the help he gave Liverpool, but my god he’s right
I never voted for these fools or brexit. They have no clue.
Paula is amazing thank you, completely out numbered by the panel and still speaking the truth to them
I like two Tories. Heseltine and Rory Stewart. The guy is in his 80s and was still able to eat these mediochre presenters for breakfast because he was able to rebutt their bullshit with facts.
I'd add Ken Clarke to the list.
It's traitors like him who have fought and are still fighting tooth and nail to keep us in the den of iniquity that is the EU!
Gordon Bennett! 😳
Sadly Rory has left the Tory party
@@vietashroffoliver2521 I wish they would all leave the Tory Party! Along with Labour,Dimdems,Greens et al
Shocking interviewers that have no respect for their guests and they should be fired!! Well done Lord Heseltine.
👍🏾
Built on a "pack of lies" Lord Heseltine 👋👋👋
And here you have it:
Following a UK-wide referendum on 23 June 2016, in which 51.89 per cent voted in favour of leaving the EU and 48.11 per cent voted to remain a member, Prime Minister David Cameron resigned. On 29 March 2017, the new British government led by Theresa May formally notified the EU of the country's intention to withdraw, beginning the process of Brexit negotiations
Trade is not up, or higher. BREXIT isn't Working. The volumes are down considerably, the value is up because of inflation. Comparatively it is down when adjusted for inflation and less than other countries in the EU. Disgraceful manipulation of the figures. (These lies were exposed on More or Less BBC Radio 4.)
The BBC ? They talk rubbish, just watch the Musk interview.
Wow your using BBC as an trust worthy comparison my God what planet are you on
@@JohnWaller-nv1sq The BBC is respected worldwide, John. You side with its critics who have no case to present but sad prejudice.
Interrupted remainers before they made their point, yet the brexiter was allowed to air her view without being interrupted
Funny people like you weren’t complaining when it happened the other way via msm for years on end
@@roccoparksHow do you know that?
"Get it done properly"
Another lie!
If you can not schwim, blame the water.
It is so obvious that it is not your fault.
You did not get brexit done, it gets you done.
Has anybody ever asked themselves why people like Anne Widdecombe constantly talk about 'brexit opportunities' or 'brexit freedoms' which apparently we're not yet making use of, but they never ever say what exactly these opportunities are? Odd that.
The fact that the UK only left the EU at the end of December 2020 is not relevant. What is relevant is the time spent preparing or rather not preparing, for December 2020 and that time, between 2016 and 2020 was squandered, wasted, no meaningful preparations for December 2020 were made. Now I do take the point to make preparations was difficult, for several reasons, but crux of the matter is: those in charge didn't prepare for Dec 2020 and to then come back afterwards and say, it's not Brexit, it's the way Brexit was done, or not done, is a bit rich, particularly if no alternatives are being suggested.
To have left without any deal at all would have meant a visible border on the island of Ireland and leaving aside, for a minute, the point whether or not a visible border is actually necessary, some dispute that it is, a visible border, necessary or not, would nevertheless have been the consequence of leaving without a deal with the EU.
'So what', said the Brexiters, 'if the EU want to put a visible border there, then let them, at least we don't have to pay for it.'
Well, this is where the American Trade deal comes in, because leaving the EU was supposed to be followed by lots of countries rushing towards the UK, desperate for Trade deals. Except that the biggest fish in the pond then said : if you cause trouble on the Island of our ancestors, i.e. a visible border on Ireland, you can forget about any Trade deal and start preparing for the US of A to make UK life a bit difficult.
Now we can debate the fairness or otherwise of this situation but it won't change the actual situation as it was. What remains to be said here is that those who lead the Leave Campaign knew full well what was in store and chose to keep stumm until after the referendum. Few if any leave campaigners drew attention to what leaving the EU would mean for the Irish border situation, they were happy to beat the drum of economic benefits, huge savings coming from no longer paying anything to the EU and offers for Trade deals from the rest of the world - which of course didn't come because even if 17,410,742 Brits couldn't or chose not to see it - the rest of the world did see that the UK was about to allow itself to be lead into economic, cultural and social self-harm by a small group of selfish politicians and business men. After all - who in their right mind would want to enter into any trade deal with a nation that turns round 6 months later, tearing up the agreement because they hadn't read properly what they signed up to?
I agree with you 100 %. 🤗👍
Got anymore good stories?
True, of course if there was a single defined version of Leave before people actually voted, they could have implemented straight after the vote. But the Leavers spent years arguing about what Leave meant. It turns out that "Brexit means Brexit" wasn't actually meaningful. Obviously if the people were presented with a single actual version of Brexit, "Leave" would never have won. There never was a majority for a single type of leave. It's crystal clear that a Leave vote was never an informed vote, the elite told the people what Leave meant AFTER the people voted, and pretended that was democratic. At least everyone who voted Remain voted for the same thing.
I watched Lord Heseltine's interview with Sky News from right after the Brexit a little while ago vote and he was furious about the whole thing. The Brexiteers ain't got a leg to stand on.
We joined in 1973 - so his lot had forty years to make Remain work - we didn't vote out because it was working...
Remember when adults were in charge....
I was never a fan of Michael Heseltine but I have a certain respect for him as a politician of principle. He is also smebody who can argue his corner very well as demonstrated by him wiping the floor with these two dim-bulb Brexiteers.
“A man of principle”! Are you frigging joking? This is the guy who publicly stated that; “I fully back the Prime Minister during this uncertain time” then, when he thought he could be in with a chance to be the next PM, he ‘stabbed her in the back’!
A “man of principle” indeed. The principle being himself! Frankly, I’d trust Diane Abbot more than him, (and I’m not even a Labour supporter, but at least you can see through her rhetoric). This man is a self serving slippery snake.
Many Rich millionaires support Remain, for some particular reason
Mr Heseltine's principles are that leaving the EU cost him personally £90,000 per year for doing absolutely nothing.....strange he didn't mention that fact 🙈
@@garymoore2535 . Glad you mentioned that. Theresa May’s hubby was exceedingly miffed too 😉
If his are the principals you hold in high esteem, god help the human race. And far from wiping the floor with the brexiteers .. he wouldn’t even listen to the actual facts, and wasn’t it Heseltine who said the country would be totally destroyed by now ..what happened to that lie…and all his other portents of doom…even after covid and a war in Ukraine!
Bravo Lord H. Tell them the truth!
In his video during Brexit beginning he said that decisions of this magnitude should not be taken with simple majority and without proper scrutiny in the parliament.
Your truth..not the truth.
'Trade with the EU has increased by 10% since brexit' does he think we are stupid, that's the monetary value, prices of all things have rocketed in the last 2 years, some things even doubling in price, a total trade value increasing by 10% indicates a decrease in trade, Heseltine was right to dismiss these figures, trade with EU is below 2019 figures according to UK Gov information.
What with people? The EU has nearly every European country as its member and yet they try to compete with them to get benefits? Are they blind or over confident?
just talk the lady down Liar Liar Liar well done Hezza
Yh very constructive. Typical ignorance.
It happened 6 years ago but we didn't leave properly until 2 years ago. Those 4 years of still being in the EU has actually protected us from an even worse economic decline.
3 years of scamdemic have changed things drastically.
Hahahahahahaa you keep telling yourself that, how’s the Eus economy doing, oh yes they’re in recession
@@roccoparks not true as usual. EU is thriving, we are drowning. UK is the only G7 member to have negative growth but dont let the facts get in the way...
@@roccoparksha ha ha the Uk is bottom of the G7 the Eu have no food shortages ! The Uk has the most expensive electricity in the world we have the highest interest rate hike since the last Tories our farmers are going out of business our fishermen have gone out of business no one to sell to ! Banned out of Norwegian waters ! & the only benefit is you don’t need insurance on your ride on mower ! No benefits at all immigration gone wild since Brexit !
That’s in the Treaty on European Union. When you trigger Article 50, you don’t get kicked out immediately, instead a negotiating phase on the future relationship starts. That was very considerate of the guy who wrote it.
A former cabinet member in Thatchers government that oversaw the biggest deindustrialisation the GB had experienced, 15% mortgages, 1:10 unemployed and biggest misery period.
The point is: The Tories had time to prepare for Brexit since 2016. But there is no plan even today...
True
Agreed 100% with heseltine
0% at my end
Is not anti Brexit people stoping to Brexit to succeed... Brexit is on .... is not good for Uk, Uk has never being better off thatn when is was part of te EEC.
You can give as much as possible, but the fondations of Brexit are lies and time will proved terrible for the uk .
Wrong
The bitterness is still strong with this one.
As a staunch remainer I greatly admire Lord H who has been a great advocate for the EU but at 90 his best debating days may be behind him
I don't understand their 2-year arguement at all. They had 4-years to prepare, and 2-years since. That equals 6-years. Heseltine is exactly correct in the most logical way possible. Its bonkers the Brexiters can argue this shit.
True. We voted to leave in 2016, why we still in this mess. It supposed to be a great success. 😡😡😡
No he lied we come out of EU 3 years ago we just come out of lockdowns due to covid and breixt never got a chance too workout he lied about a borris gov in being in 2016 he went in power till 2019. No one mention the mess covid created wasnt down to brexit at all all the mess we have now is because of lockdowns end of
@@DavidTyler I almost forgot about COVID now. How long we going to blame COVID for the state of this county's economy. Other EU country mostly recovered from tha pandemic. Is not COVID is combination of Brexit and Tory government austerity policies. As a result of Brexit we lost most of the trade with our European partners. Tory's austerity run
this country to the ground. 😡😡😡
@@DavidTyler Thats why we have the worst GDP in the EU, who suffered all the same things you mentioned? Na, don't be a moron, Brexit has fucked us. Ask any farmer, any fisherman, any businessman. Just don't ask your mate down the pub because he probably knows about it as much as you.
@@Timbocool-imabutcher one I don't go the pub I don't drink plus what I said isnt wrong brexit had nothing with the down turn we have now because of lockdowns nothing to do with brexit to what what problems we have now.
Heseltine sadly is a rare breed. Morally astute even though I do not agree with his politics.
Morally astute?😂😂😂😂😂😂
Analysts who think their smart get outwitted by an old man love it This is the exact reason why people are moving away from Mainstream media
Well said Lord H. Not afraid to state the bleedin’ obvious, whereas the others obfuscate and introduce red herrings, even that old red whale …Covid. How pathetic they are. 😩😩
He's a pro at this
Even at 90...
Don't be fooled- Heseltine was a major member of the Thatcher government. Its policies-selling off council houses, weakening trades unions and giving tax cuts to the rich- has ended in some of the most grotesque inequality we've seen for decades. Wonder why privatised utilities are so expensive, why housing for young people is all but impossible in many parts of the country, and why zero-hour contracts are a fact of life for all too many people in this country? Heseltine isn't personally responsible for these things, but he was certainly a major player in a government that instigated these policies. Yes, he's a pro, alright.
He relies entirely on his age for this conversation but sadly his age does also seem to have taken a toll on his memory and basic truth, a classic example of the scale of dementia.
@@georgehetty7857 What has he misremembered?
@@laxeystu8096 Basically everything but particularly his I hope disingenuous recollections regarding the historical facts since the 2016 vote. For example the 3 years that almost every MP, civil servant and anyone who didn’t vote leave but was in a position to try and overturn the result, especially the majority of MSM and particularly the BBC.
Secondly he seems to entirely forgotten the 2 1/2 years or so of covid and it’s impact on every aspect of life certainly regarding Europe.
Unfortunately Mr.Hestletine seems typical of the prevailing mentality of the political institutions
still which I suspect would rather the UK fail going forward than implement Brexit to its maximum
obvious advantages which some seem determined to curtail.
Do you share his recollections?
@@laxeystu8096 ⌛️
I am no Tory but heseltine talks sense
Hestletine used to get over £100,000 a year from the EU as a wealthy landowner. No self interest in remaining.
😂😂😢😢😮 The look on the male presenters face is priceless. Completely baffled by facts. The female presenter added nothing but some dopey rhetoric she feels compelled to regurgitate.
Honestly the state of that pair.
It is a sorry state. They trying very hard to prove him wrong, but no, they cannot face the true. 🤗👍
Eh l don't think so.
Brexit went wrong because remainers are thwarting it?... 🤣 What a nonsense.
All they have left is blame for THEIR failures.
Yes, alll those remainers in the Eu! :D
"Brexit went wrong"........I think you will find that Brexit went right.......we left the European Empire ! 😃👍
@@garymoore2535 If leaving would have been the only goal - Brexit is a full success.
But what about global economic presence? Thriving British economy? Multitude of international economic treaties? - since UE chains has been broken. What about money for NHS? And most importantly - how do you like latest figures on immigration? - illegal this time around.
Personally, my favourite is the enrichment of British businesses by introduction of extensive paperwork in trade with the EU - it used to be so boring! All I had to do is order a courier online, hand the merch next day and 5 days later it was on the spot. No questions asked. Booooooo!
After the B - What a joy to wait 5 weeks in glorious uncertainty! Will it get there at all? Exciting! Will they return it again cause some idiot thinks powdered herbs are... plants. And they don't allow plants. What a thrill! 🤭
The girl is just parroting platitudes.
What are the BREXIT benefits we are not implementing.
Remain politicians voted in favour of the EU referendum in very large numbers. Check the EU referendum bill 2nd reading. Then when the result came out, those Remainers who voted to let the country decide were so shocked with the result suddenly did an about turn and began trying to overturn the result.
Them two presenters smirking every time someone talks some truth 🤣🤡
Their both are in denial. 😡😡😡
That's cos there was something to laugh at
"we're not taking advantages of the opportunities"..... Always followed by silence as to what these are.... Because mostly they don't exist and when they do they involve deregulation you'd never sell to the public if you dare tell them what it was.
and above all, corruption, cronyism, tax evasion etc
True 🤗👍
@@derekmab7734 Spot on 🤗👍
The opportunity is too still be a sovereign nation state wth at least some remaining mechanisms to democratically replace the governing body. In the EU there is no means to do so because it is a tyranny ruled by an unelected commission where the parliament has practically zero power to make laws.
@@ryanstark2350 And how exactly do the unelected Commisioners and Councils of Ministers get their jobs? They are appointed by democratically elected governments, just like Ambassadors. Have you ever complained about not being able to elect an Ambassador? What makes your argument even dumber, is that it would have more merit, if these were jobs for life. Instead, these are fixed term appointments, but they expire after 5 years. In addition, when countries use the EU as a dumping ground for it's corrupt politcians such as Malta did with John Dalli, (aka Johnny Cash), the EU has no compunctions about returning him to whence he came
Having displayed such collosal ignorance of how the EU works, I don't suppose it occurs to you that the reason we are in this mess, is because people like you don't know what you are talking about? Thatcher started that crap about the unelected EU, but she never held elections for these posts. I bet you can't even work out the reason why this was so
Well said, Heseltine. Are those two supposed to be news reporters?
Lord Heseltine should be PM!!! I d vote for him. These journalists live in cuckoo land
Never thought I’d agree with a tory but he’s absolutely correct.
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Yes, we are in a very odd world now in which old conservatives are the ones speaking sense and making left wingers like me clap them on. It's become a common recent phenomena. i cant recall agreeing with almost anything these tories said in the 1980s and 90s! another one is Peter Hitchens...who comes out with quite a lot of good points. and im an extreme lefty!
The guy is asking a question and gets mad when people answer 🤣
This started off with a bald-faced lie: "Thank you for being here, Lord Heseltine, we really appreciate it." Then these two liars proceeded to prove they didn't value what he contributed and didn't appreciate his presence. If this is modern Britain, it has nowhere to go anymore. This is the terminus. All out please.
They invited him on the programm fully knowing he was against their believes, only to try and destroy him in public.
This is the man who has the nerve to be anywhere near the parliament after the Westlands scandal. He is a disaster for this country.
They shout down anything they disagree about
but so did he with his monolog
@@JOHNSMITH-if9jr
What?
He’s a guest being interviewed.
They shouted him down just like they did to the other lady.
Tice and Oakshite are a couple of pound shop clowns.
They should be ashamed for not letting anyone answer. Lord is absolutely right
Have I been watching a different programme then? He was invited into the show, the presenters were very polite but it was met with a very gruff rude attitude. Whatever your beliefs there is no excuse for his behaviour.
@@1Thedairy I respect your opinion but to do it I read your message till the end I did not stop reading after the first two words and started writing this reply.
@@1Thedairyseems people have been being rude to you your whole life and you have thought they were being polite. Quite sad when you come to think about it. They were extremely rude, and terrified of letting him finish his very true point. The people responsible for pushing Brexit over the line were in power for 4 n half years before they got it over the line, pushing it. So they had 4 and a half years to prepare for the very thing they were pushing. It’s not rocket science, unless you are a bit dense
I'm a Socialist, but that's pure class v brexit garbage, well done sir
After Netflix was created, Blockbuster Videos were like blacksmiths after the car was invented. Talk TV and GB News find themselves in the same position, and they are panicking. Their brand of Fascism is going out of style very quickly.
Oakeshott playing the feminist victim card at apparently being 'patronised' by Heseltine after previously saying to him 'Lord Heseltine, let ME tell you WHY ... '. Hilarious!.
She’s an odious little brat
Married to Richard Tice. What do you expect?
I thought Brexit was to rule ourselves and be independent and not be governed by unelected eurocrats. Do people really think there would be no problems and that it would all be rosy? We have to fight for our independence and work hard to keep it and not re-join. Or is it just about money?
No opportunities in Brexit, just disadvantages. From my personal experience I can tell you I lost 2/3rds of my EU customers after Brexit. The One Stop Shop rules have killed exports to the EU.
I thought Russia Today had been banned from TH-cam?
No that's C4 and the Beeb.