"You're A FASCIST!" Former Union Boss Makes OUTRAGEOUS Claims About Hosts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ม.ค. 2023
- Piers Morgan Uncensored guest hosted by Isabel Oakeshott and Richard Tice is joined by former RMT Assistant Secretary Steve Hedley to discuss the continued rail strikes in the UK in 2023.
Richard and Isabel begin by asking Steve if the strikes are achieving their purpose and question whether they are doing more harm than good. Steve explains his point, before the debate becomes more and more heated, resulting in Steve calling our presenters "a pair of fascists" and accusing them and their friends of having offshore accounts. Richard and Isabel go on to point out the ridiculousness of these claims.
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Steve Hedley is an embarrassment
He sounds just like a dictator to me, will not listen to anything anybody else says. Quite frankly if I was that lady I would have shut the interview down strait away, he comes over as a bully and someone with no respect for anyone. They way from him was to shout over all the time and could not have a decent conversation with anyone that disagreed with him. What a Numpty, he has not done his cause any good.
I was willing her to say, that's it, interview finished. They aren't very good interviewees but I am so sick of this childish name calling when they're asked something that they can't answer to. It's insulting and infuriating as he had valid points.
Goodness what a dogs dinner of a speech by this man. Nothing constructive to say.
A perfect demonstration of the horseshoe theory. As Hedley (complete with RMT Palestinian tee shirt) unravels, screaming that the presenters are Fascists and behaving in a deranged and aggressive way, particularly to the female presenter we get to see his real colours. When asked for his original solution, he becomes angrier, eventually shouting how he'd have "People's Councils- People's Councils and take over the government!" Brainwashed and stupid, a bad combination. Extraordinary that the RMT see him as anything other than a liability.
Needs showing in a politics course but won't happen in British universities.
.. What's wrong with a Palestine t shirt.. I support their cause.. why don't you???
Yeah, & he's even got a BA degree. Heaven knows how he got it. Says a lot for our Universities doesn't it?
If you are invited to talk to these 2 clowns you must know that they will permanently interrupt you. They have no idea how to manage a proper discussion.
I like when he said that the government money is going to the railway company, they give the most to their cronies and the rest to the workers..... that's the way they do it.
Think his favourite word is 'autocue ' 🤣🤣
Think the point is that these gammon presenters are owned and spill the rhetoric of their billionaire paymasters... keep supporting them though and watch the country crumble
It was his ‘Word of the Day’ toilet roll suggestion for today. 😂😂🧻
And "fascist" of course - to be screamed hysterically at anyone who asks him a perfectly reasonable questions.
Autocue...Yes it is
Think your favourite word is'DUH'
What kind of journalists dont allow their interviewee to answer their questions? . . . And then lose their argument? What a couple of losers.
Well that got out of hand very quickly.
Paying ever higher taxes for public services ? Public services which are PRIVATISED ?
Subsidised.
*Al Murray is hilarious, but this Steve Hedley guy should have been The Pub Landlord. He's even funnier!*
I (American) like this guy. We need to see more of him on television.
He,s fucking brilliant mate 😁🤣👌
He's even 'funnier' because what he says is 100% correct, he's not a comedian 'lol'
I don't think his ex Caroline Leneghan found him "funny" Google what she accused Hedley of ?
Seems like a pleasant chap.
Not according to his ex Caroline.
@nutcracker2916
No surprise that Hedley is so supportive of women abusers in hamas.
He’s a legend. Free Palestine!!
Angry slaphead.
I genuinely don't understand why the government are supporting these private businesses financially through the strike, should they not only be doing this if the service is nationalised, can someone help me understand?
we used to have a nationalised service and generally people agree that the privatised service is more effective. Its definitely a debate to be had but I would say generally speaking privatised services of this scale are more effective. It's a shame they have these idiots doing the speaking on behalf of their strike regime though haha
@@aw2390 Who exactly says that the privatised service is better? Can you point me to this poll please because I can point you to a few that disagrees with your sentiment. I remember when the railways were publicly owned, it was run so much better, tickets were much cheaper, everybody paid the same price, heck they even had porters to help passengers with luggage.
Privatisation has and always will be about syphoning money from the bottom to the top.
HE'S RIGHT THEY ARE. RECENTLY THEY DIDNT EVEN LET A FORMER LABOUR MP SPEAK ABOUT THE ABUSES DONE ON PALESTINIAN KIDS BY IS.RAELI SOLDIERS.... SO GO FIGURE.
@@aw2390 I would disagree, there is clear evidence that certain industries benefit from a national service. Helps set standards and cost. Also, forces any private supplier to invest in developing the market. UK rail is a joke, when you're on holiday on the continent it's a million times better.
Ahh, I see the bots and PR team are working overtime with the rudimentary gaslighting.
As a train driver myself, I don't agree with it at all.
I get paid a good wage. I've got my own house my own car. family go on 2 holidays a year and weekends aways, also I put money in my savings every month for when I retire and still have money left over when next pay day comes.
I think we should focus on people who work 30 40 hours a week and make just over 1100 after tax. They're the ones who are finding it the hardest.
Think that's been covered the wage drivers get was put to lynch to which I saw him admit drivers were well payed but it was other workers were not
I wonder how this guy even had an important position at a job
Completely off-topic - but you got to love the Brits - after such a hard-core exchange and insults - they still finish the piece with "thank you" and "thank you". If this was somewhere else - it would be F U and F U followed by a fistfight and a wrecked studio :)
😂So true, I’d love to see it all kick off!
🤣
if this was a heated american tv exchange, he would leave uttering the famous words ''i'll be back'' armed to the teeth with a fully automatic assault rifle, spraying the place with bullets and double tapping them two🤣
Yep all is well that ends well
What an odious man. Is he actively trying to make everyone hate the unions even more?
Mischief managed!
Wow , that went south pretty quickly.
What happened about his ex Caroline Lenegham 's Domestic Violence allegations against Hedley ? She used to be a secretary of the RMT .
He engages in domestic violence? It doesn't surprise me.
I was a Shop Steward in the US. Unions around the world need to focus on positive solutions not constant envy and negativity.
If that was a solution then all unions would have done it already
how did you taje that from his pitch. he said what he wanted lmao the union wants a raise that meets inflation
But you have to admit paying people thousands of pounds to read an autocue...
.. You don't sound like a shop steward?.. I bet your members, got rid of you, pretty quickly
@@imemine6494 no one else would do it
Total and pure immaturity.
They're always Irish 😂
Only people in Britain with any Balls. Erin Go Bra
This guy definitely came to this interview pissed just to build up his confidence 😂
He came to the interview knowing he was going to be whitewashed by pro government shills..
100%
HE'S RIGHT THEY ARE. RECENTLY THEY DIDNT EVEN LET A FORMER LABOUR MP SPEAK ABOUT THE ABUSES DONE ON PALESTINIAN KIDS BY IS.RAELI SOLDIERS.... SO GO FIGURE.
@@Choco-sk2gj HE'S RIGHT THEY ARE. RECENTLY THEY DIDNT EVEN LET A FORMER LABOUR MP SPEAK ABOUT THE ABUSES DONE ON PALESTINIAN KIDS BY IS.RAELI SOLDIERS.... SO GO FIGURE.
Couldn’t even dress properly
It's good to see the presenters getting it.
I (American) like this guy. We need to see more of him on television.
The Union rep, Steve Hedley had every opportunity to put over the rail workers point but he was so full of himself that we never got to hear these points
@@getitupyeyabam big up the unions.. down with gammon fascists
@@jamesadams9611p lol huh?
@@Thanatos6 if u don't know.... u don't know.
Australia is having to automate more and more train lines as these pricks were constantly on strike when they were already paid better than nurses.
Exactly, automation is very easy to implement and leads to a much more reliable service. These guys will be history within a decade at most.
.. Why do you think they get paid better than nurses???.. try to do some joined up thinking?
@@tantona9315.. wow, you really are a cold sod
@@imemine6494 don't kid yourself. a trained monkey could drive a train. They are increasingly becoming automated in Australia.
.. that's not what I meant, I am saying, they get paid that amount cuz they have a good strong union.
He certainly rattled these two . The presenter said about taxes payed to run the railways but it goes to pay share holders as the union guy eventually points out .
1. taxes "paid", not "payed"
2. Dividends are a payment for investment. If privatised the funding would be through government debt, debt which carries interest. Interest which is paid to holders of government debt.
@@michaelsimpson4400 So how do you fix this then ?
@@davew9360 Well for one you can automate railways, as has been done in other countries. This removes the labour costs and makes the transport cheaper and means it can run 24/7. (Also removes long term pension costs). Unsurprisingly, the unions are not in favour of this.
@@michaelsimpson4400 But that is going to have a major cost and as profits go to share holders where does this money come from ?
@@davew9360 companies borrow to invest if that investment increases the long term returns. Problem is the unions block the idea of driverless trains.
Give the army a pay rise privates and troopers are only on £21k a year
Yes, totally agree
Absolutely
And we're not at war. 21k is a bit shocking but at the same time, all they do is conduct exercises and training.
We only have about 20 soldiers left so why not 😁 give them 30gees
@@benjaminbehan4411 Wrong! Not only training and exercise..
COVID testing
Ambulance Drivers
Nurses in hospitals
Passport Control at airports and Dover
Fuel tanker drivers.
Army helps with flood relief and other natural disasters
Operation Templar is also very important helps support the police force in major situations like terrorist attacks
Security at major events the queen’s funeral London Olympics
Operation Cabrit “our troops are supporting the Estonians on the border with Russian in case of a Russian land grab
We also have troops in Mali apart of the UN to counter terrorism.
British Army is also training Ukrainians in the fight against Russian aggression
The British army is also stationed on many overseas territories like the Falklands in case of another attack.
These are just some of the things I can remember off the top of my head the army are always their to fall back on.
But the most important of them all they are willing to sacrifice everything to keep people like you safe against any attack
Just like our Navy and RAF
So back to the money a private, trooper, gunner, sapper and our craftsman’s are again only on 21k a year
From the guardian
“The average salary is £59,000 across the national rail operators”
I fully understand that isn’t the starting wage but that’s more money then a Major would earn in the British Army if you didn’t know a major is in charge of a squadron “more then 100 soldiers/officers so the average train operator is doing extremely well compared to most army ranks
Brilliant television. More informative quality like this please.
I (American) like this guy. We need to see more of him on television.
I watched this the other night & I was crying laughing,best television I,ve seen for years 🤣🤣👌👌😁😁
@@zolfodor4835 This type of TV could never happen in America. They would cut off the guest, run to commercial. He's too uncontrollable. The only thing he didn't do here is swear (use profanity).
@Reggae Fan Tbh mate that's what I thought was gonna happen,I,d rather watch classic TV like this every night than the usual shite they normally throw at us.
lol
This was outright funny. That bald headed guy thought he was in the nursery school gazing into the cameras with that smirkey smile on his face.... lol gaw blimey. I actually would like them to interview him again.
Nope he had just come from the pub and was a pint short of a sixpence
What an excellent Union leader...move the focus away from the shareholders to the actual workers...billions have gone to the shareholders...very little to the labour force!!
I (American) like this guy. We need to see more of him on television.
@@reggaefan2700 I (English) like this guy. It is an interesting perspective of corporate shareholders taking dividents and moving the funds off shore. End of the day, if we/you/i created a train company from the groundup, would expect to see these profits and would bath in our success, forgetting/not caring that pittents the workers are on. Old fashioned saying "in order for there to be rich, there must be poor" since everything is relative. I am not sure how to fix this ingrained and existential problems. Those with bigger houses and large bank accounts are not going to hand them over easily w/ reform. This issue of greed and wealth will be the downfall of the world. Prepare for dystopia and social credit.
how much capital do the shareholders put in though? I do agree that if the company is making massive profits, it should be shared though, (before you bite my head off).
@@joycegibbs5267 an investor has to see there return, is that what you are saying?
See kids if you wear tin foil hats constantly your hair falls out!
This was genuinely hilarious. 😂
If they are all like him they deserve nothing no wonder no one can settle this with an attitude like his my god another bloody dictator.
.. Dictator?.. he had two of them against him, on their show
I honestly don't know what to say "Where's the Autocue" I'm speechless 😬
Instead of being judgemental why don't people realise that If you treat people right they don't go on strike!
There’s a song from the 70s about him it’s called ‘ I’m a wanker’ 😂
Car crash interview, this guy is embarrassing
.. Thought he rattled them
We want a fair and just society.
Animal farm😁
anarchists don't want any society.
Acts, and they shared everything in common. Expand your vision of the possible.
Fair and just. We all want that, problem is, my idea of fair and just, may not be in alignment with yours. Now what do we do?
no where in the world has communism been fair and just
Quality TV - more of this please 😂
Was he drunk ?
Power pissed…
I dunno who wrote this comedy sketch.. but I hope TalkTV give him a raise.
🤭
Imagine trying to negotiate with this guy
Yeah that's the point. They want someone who isn't gonna back off. That guy is awesome.
@@manchesterunited9576 yes but I don’t think someone who makes baseless accusations and is extremely aggressive and bigoted
Them two banging each other...
Who the fuck would be in charge
They're stupid presenters
Based on how this guy has come across and the comments he’s made it’s no wonder the government are at a stalemate with him….he’s a control freak who doesn’t want to improve services but cries like a baby because he’s not getting what he wants !
'Former union boss'
Reading comprehension is helpful
.. and our government???
You are delusional, you seriously trust the corrupt government... the people are a joke
Fantastic from Steve , puts them in their place and again shows who is right in this dispute. Victory to the Workers!
👍
100%
The train service is terrible as well as the strikes there are trains constantly cancelled I waited an hour to get home the other night to get home due to a cancelled train do they not realise that they are also impacting other people that need to get to work and are on less money then they are on and can’t afford to loss their jobs because they can’t get to work
Diddums
God some people don’t listen, The services are terrible because the workers and people who actually run the trains are underfunded as Steve just said, the money received from the government is funnelled to shareholders and not to the people who can actually improve the service. Blame the tories for allowing the money to be funnelled away and blame the train companies, not the workers. Please.
Blame the people at the top then not the ordinary workers
Absolute stupidity
@@carlmiller2603 love you too.
Kelly do you even understand what’s going on, I’ll give a little example. (The figures may be off but you get my drift).
For every £100 of tax payers moneys going into the railways, theee private companies are taking £60 of it as profit and to pay shareholders, the remaining £40 is being used to run the service and pay workers. The way it should work is, the full £100 should go into the railway itself and the workers after all the original funding is coming from tax payers. Anyone doing a service for profit is always going to want to “increase margaIns” over time, I suppose it’s fine if it’s the case of a Mars bar shrinking but if it’s your relatives cancer treatments then it’s a huge problem.
I never understood & i will never this people. What a propaganda,they still don't getting.
Sniped with the Autocue lol
Why are these newscasters so against paying the rail workers making a decent living?
.. Cuz they are part of the establishment and upper class.. they want to keep the working class down
Their not, their job is to challenge the person they are interviewing.
Only missing was 3 glasses of Beer
If this man says “it’s on the auto Que”
One more time. He’s like a child. I would reduce their wages not increase them and anyone who doesn’t like it should be sacked. Sack them all and re hire people who would happily do the job for less money and then remove the ability to strike from the contract too. Disgrace, If this was private sector they just be sacked
When you start using terms like fascist and Hitler youth you loose the argument.
The presenters are so up their own agenda ,I`m not suprised he said that.Agreed he should not be a public spokesman,however this was one for Piers,not these pair of right wing lime light grabbers.
@@daveb1223 do you know who Piers Morgan is?
@@ralphdavidson9542 Yeah,that`s why I commented
"Whenever people don't agree with you, you just use word fascist to sound smart."
-Sun Tzu
In this case they are fascists
@@run2cat4run Most people who use that word have no clue what it means, I've also heard words like communism being randomly used in the conversation.. these people weren't even born when those things were public
.. he was up against the two of them on their show
@@imemine6494 He started alright but at the end he just made a monkey out of himself
@@therealestatestory.. Opinion is divided on the subject
This guy’s style of challenging his interviewers reminds me a bit of Johnny Rotten when he was younger! Although, this guy has much more to say than John.
Love it. Let’s hope more people call out the ridiculous lines of questioning that seek to maintain the status quo!
Ah Johnny Rotten: Irish blood, English heart, Californian mansion. At least he doesn't have to worry about getting anywhere on a British train these days.
@@MartyMolloy I never said Johnny Rotten was a good guy. I was pointing out the “question the question” style of stripping the pretence away from propagandists.
I actually stated that this guy has much more to say than John.
Cracking interview 😆👏👏👏
Oakeshott 'Frankly, Id like my money in off shore'? That tells everything about where her intentions are?
I guarantee this guy can't even define 'fascism'.
.. Oh, I think he can
Zionism
Fire em all, replace them with the unemployed, couple of weeks worth of training and job done! uncle festa thinks he's a rocket scientist!
If ceos take home inflated care packages and bonuses for doing nothing different than why shouldn’t everyone benefit the same way, The moneys there. Why should shareholders take pejorative profits home instead of the back bone of the business being paid economically equal wage to life expense pay? Because favoritism/greed/corruption. End it now. Tories out!
Mick Cash, the RMT’s former general secretary, took home a total remuneration of £163,468 in 2020, including £1,432 in car benefit. Steve Hedley, former RMT senior assistant general secretary, had a total remuneration of £94,016, including £2,945 in car benefit, in the same year. Former RMT assistant general secretary and now the union’s general secretary, Mick Lynch, had total remuneration of £118,450 in 2020.
And they're standing up for those that are getting paid less than them unlike the CEOs and the boards who are on £1m+ and are offering 2.3% increase for their £35k employees 🙄
How much should a union leader get then? Surely a person in charge of a union who seeks to get a fair wage for everyone would be paid a good wage.
Lol if you say so.
@@patrickhiston5777 they should be getting a lot less than what they are that's for sure. They shouldn't be getting more than nurses. These guys are already living a comfy life but they want to speak on behalf of working class. They have no idea what they're on about cause they're so out of touch with working class.
@@Thanatos6 really? If the members thought that they wouldn't vote them or a strike. So is it all leaders of unions or just the Rmt?
Most train drivers as well as engineers are on 30k to 50k a year. An entry-level train driver starts on 20k a year, a senior train driver's salary is 45k - 60k a year. They still think it's not enough. I get why some are making the argument but most are just greedy.
A student nurse starts on £27,000-£30,000. I wish I could earn that in a year too. No one earning in region of £30k should be striking for more money in this time. We all wish we could earn that as normal. This man is greedy, argumentative and ignorant of how economics works. If my train arrived on time, and was clean, and ticketing made sense I might have some sympathy. I suggest he is the fascist!
@Midget Yt so you're super bias then, good deal
With inflation its harder to survive
hahah 50 grand a year .. that's nothing theses days... the cost of living has turned that 50 grand in to 30, peanuts
That actually isn't enough considering the fact that inflation increases and the value of money decreases while costs of living increases
I like how you get to reason with words. They use my existence to do so without my knowledge or consent.
Bloody good telly though
I think Steve was also pissed that he wasn't interviewed by Morgan Piers
I like the girl...These two presenters seem to be relatives to piers
This gentleman did not do his colleagues any favours by conducting himself as he did. They’ll not get the public onboard this way
He kept getting side tracked.
@@mrtomoslowen He kept getting ‘side-tracked’, because he’s a babbling moron.
I would say calling him a 'gentleman' is a bit of a stretch....more of a bitter underachiever who believes himself to be Che Guevara!
.. I thought he rattled them both
@@imemine6494 he sounded like he had a mental health issue shouting things like Hitler youth
"Nobody would notice if you went on strike!" Hello is that kettle, yes it's pot just phoning to let you know your black!🤣
He didn’t need the auto cue lol 😂
Funniest interview i have seen in my life
You obviously haven’t seen the Ugandan interview with “pasta” who is against gay people and transgender people. It’s absolutely hilarious. You want to laugh, look it up. Thank me later. 😂
@@pommiebears Classic 😂😂
Everything about this was embarrassing, maturity and rational discussion missing from both sides here. Sounds like a conversation you'd overhear in the corner of a pub at 11pm
Spot on! These grown adults have been dumbed down to stupid statuses!
Yes it wasn't great, but I don't think anyone is gonna respond well, if you call them a Nazi. What a numpty.
This is brilliant!!!
This is why they made a program called Derry Girls, not Derry Boys.
Don’t think baldy did anything to endear people to the unions/RMT, if that’s his attitude, aggressive, sarcastic, throwing the the term ‘fascist’ around and belittling the presenters, wether deserved or not, I wouldn’t want him representing me..
this is the thing, they actually have decent arguments but as soon as the name calling starts, thats it. I'm not interested.
This guest is brilliant! and love the T-Shirt!
If you tried to sketch this it wouldn't come out this good lol
Talk TV are realy showing us who ownes them…!?!
Steve Hedley is clearly the FORMER RMT assistant secretary for a reason, that reason being he's lost the plot.
A lot of Conservative supporters are in the comment section. However, what Tice and Oakeshott seem to be forgetting about in this dispute is not train drivers or RMT leaders and the salary they get. This is about saving the jobs of those that work in the ticket offices, ticket collectors, train guards and cleaners who face the prospect of being made redundant, and getting paid properly for the work that they do. Although he didn't handle himself well in this interview, Hedley is right the government is subsidizing shareholders in the rail industry.
I'm an ex-conservative voter and I agree with you 100% but why does he go into the stupid name calling. It is so childish & insulting.
Why did they even invite him if they were going to harrass him...
any one that drinks that much water is a liar
Like his shirt 🇵🇸🇵🇸
If he’s the type of person in negotiations, I’m not surprised they haven’t been given what they want. Acts like a spoilt child when he doesn’t get his way or hears something he doesn’t like.
I’d be embarrassed to have someone like him representing my workers rights. Pathetic 🤷🏻♂️
.. You haven't got any workers rights
The anti trade union tip my cap
HE'S RIGHT THEY ARE. RECENTLY THEY DIDNT EVEN LET A FORMER LABOUR MP SPEAK ABOUT THE ABUSES DONE ON PALESTINIAN KIDS BY IS.RAELI SOLDIERS.... SO GO FIGURE.
Public services will never work if the government doesn’t allocate proportion rep to its voters. The public need to have majority say
Is he some sort of new comedy character?
Is Piers in Saudi with Cristiano Ronaldo?
Back to the 1970s and 1980's
Watching Tyce and Oakshot is like watching a screwed up Madely and Ann Diamond....
These guys are just gangsters. They have no ability to listen to anyone. Utter ignoramous!
He's obviously Far Left. The Far Leftists see literally everyone and everything that's not Far Left as being "Far Right"... or "fascist". The incessant talk about "capitalism" and the compulsory "pro-Palestine" t-shirt really give the game away. You could spot this Trot from 6,000 miles away. He's almost a self-caricature. Dave Spart interviewed by Talk TV. When are we going to have his estranged cousin, Nick Griffin, on?
.. He's left and they are on the right
@@imemine6494 What!? And grass is green and snow is white?
@@paulaustinmurphy.. tell me where and why I am wrong????
@@imemine6494 I don't understand. My reply basically stated: What you wrote is obvious. And my first comment said that the train-workers' leader is Far Left and I know the presenters are on the Right. Are you slow?
@@paulaustinmurphy.. give me a piece of chalk please???
He just made a fool of himself
This is why to never vote reform
Great to see the trailer for the new Rab C Nesbit series
Well, that could have gone better
Good job guys
The gov want us to get out of cars and use the trains..
They i need to remortgage to go from london to Manchester!
I'm surprised mate you kept the contents of your stomach inside ,facing tice and oakshott ,some advice , don't tell oakshott anything in confidence.shes got a book coming out , allegedly,👍
Fantastic T-shirt 👍
Steve would love Hamas. They don't respect women either. Google Caroline Leneghan. Ex RMT secretary. D.V. / Steve Hedley.
Public sector workers are amongst the most laziest in the country
makes a change from calling someone a racist I suppose 😆. That's all they've got, fascist, racist, sexist. It's so pathetic because he had some good points but once you start going down this childish path, forget it. He's not best mate with Harold is he?
You drive trains for FS not open heart surgery on babies or making the big decisions. I could drive a train and I've never done it. Gauranteed
Tories privatised the utilities and railways. And if you voted for them, you can't complain about the 💩 service and sky high prices. Never trust a tory