okay, so it wasn’t just me counting at least three NORDO aircraft. Maybe South Bend can, I dunno, update their radios while not disrupting existing ATC comms? If there’s a NOTAM (seems obvious), no one here including the approach controller was aware of it.
I was the instructor on 281TW that day. Our radio stopped monitoring the frequency after we got the initial 050 heading (our checkin wasn’t captured on this video). We hadn’t turned the radio down since we were on flight following and entering a busy class C; it wouldn’t have been a prudent move. My clue that something was wrong was the suddenly quiet frequency. We keyed up, asked for a radio check, and then started hearing the frequency again. My guess is that this is a bug in the G1000NXi software. I’d had the same problem at CMI in the same airplane. It ended up getting written up to MX. This video doesn’t capture the second interaction on departure from FWA where we queried the controller about the radio outage. He didn’t seem fazed by it, and assured us it was no issue. We were just thankful it didn’t cause any issues for them.
Always a good rule if you’re in busy airspace and it’s suddenly quiet for a long time is to ask for current altimeter and see if you get a response. Technology is not infallible so it helps to be proactive! 👍🏻
Kudos to the controller for staying level headed through all the radio issues; unlike a certain controller that ended up swearing on frequency when he had the stuck mic issue and wondered why nobody replied to him.
First solo’d out of Smith in 6DC… good little plane. That controller is great. Usually when I do touch and go’s there at FWA he usually ends with “thanks for playing” and it always cracked me up
June 15th at KHSV an Air Force T1 Jayhawk had a gear issue and I was in the pattern when it happened. May wanna give it a listen approach asked me what happened and stuff too kinda cool.
476DC was on radar services with FWA - in that scenario, you remain on freq until you report airport in sight (or just say cancel radar services). Then you go back to a VFR squawk and change to the CTAF. Frequency in the video is Fort Wayne Approach (out of Fort Wayne International, it's the only controlled airport in the immediate area).
I did my first solo XC out of GWB, keyed up FWA for the flight following to LAF and I managed the call so well that the controller said I sounded like a pro. Gave me a lot of confidence for that XC for sure. Lost my medical a solid month or two after that though
I guess it makes sense to give the airport's altitude to each approaching craft, but it always makes me think that the airports are randomly bobbing up and down.
Altimeter setting is not the same as altitude. Air pressure changes, the altimeter needs to be adjusted for the local air pressure in order to read the true altitude.
Not really. AFAIK they have routines for radio outages, it's not like they start landing on top of (or crash into) each other. Might be a problem for someone already in trouble of course, but most normal traffic has a bit of spare fuel and an alternate airport exactly for when unexpected stuff like this happens.
NORDOs everywhere
okay, so it wasn’t just me counting at least three NORDO aircraft. Maybe South Bend can, I dunno, update their radios while not disrupting existing ATC comms? If there’s a NOTAM (seems obvious), no one here including the approach controller was aware of it.
@@rjhornsby I thought we were supposed to check for NOTAM whenever we’re planning to fly before we head to the airport. 🛩🚁
Hey, if you mind me asking, do you happen to have any transmissions at Fort Wayne following the Derecho?
I was the instructor on 281TW that day. Our radio stopped monitoring the frequency after we got the initial 050 heading (our checkin wasn’t captured on this video). We hadn’t turned the radio down since we were on flight following and entering a busy class C; it wouldn’t have been a prudent move. My clue that something was wrong was the suddenly quiet frequency. We keyed up, asked for a radio check, and then started hearing the frequency again. My guess is that this is a bug in the G1000NXi software.
I’d had the same problem at CMI in the same airplane. It ended up getting written up to MX.
This video doesn’t capture the second interaction on departure from FWA where we queried the controller about the radio outage. He didn’t seem fazed by it, and assured us it was no issue. We were just thankful it didn’t cause any issues for them.
Great job
air: ITW...how are you reading THIS post??!!! :)
good job !
Always a good rule if you’re in busy airspace and it’s suddenly quiet for a long time is to ask for current altimeter and see if you get a response. Technology is not infallible so it helps to be proactive! 👍🏻
When 88J started transmitting it sounded like he was half asleep, or maybe 100 years old.
Deffo an old guy!
Both
I was wondering if It was Harrison Ford for a second.
I didn't know FJB was a pilot.
Enough. This will be you soon. Over-45s do not deserve ridicule for being over 45. EVER.
My home airport, glad to see they were able to work that out without anything dangerous occurring
The real winner for the gold star is VASAviation for these videos
Oh, thank you much!
Kudos to the controller for staying level headed through all the radio issues; unlike a certain controller that ended up swearing on frequency when he had the stuck mic issue and wondered why nobody replied to him.
6DC deserved that gold star 🌟
That was wild!! Fortunately, everyone helped out and nothing bad happened. . . Nice work!! 👍✈✈👍
First solo’d out of Smith in 6DC… good little plane. That controller is great. Usually when I do touch and go’s there at FWA he usually ends with “thanks for playing” and it always cracked me up
Excelente exemplo de trabalho em equipe e coordenação. Que bom que deu tudo certo no final. Abraços . Itamar do Brasil
Glad that went as well as it did
Sounds like someone updating the radios has their transmit button stuck and no mic attached.
It's the 5G, man! It's Y2K all over again, man! We gotta prrrtecc our planes with tin foil, we'll be lucky to survive this one!
"Saratoga 8188J, 7500" ... got hijacked ...noone noticed
June 15th at KHSV an Air Force T1 Jayhawk had a gear issue and I was in the pattern when it happened. May wanna give it a listen approach asked me what happened and stuff too kinda cool.
I think, the controller is really standard. Very good controller.
My guess is 1TW had the volume turned down. They heard the louder transmission from the other aircraft and turned it up and could then hear ATC.
That doesn't explain 88J having the same issue at the same time.
The instructor from that flight has commented that they did not turn the volume down
@@Cyberguy42 I see that. My guess was mostly correct, it was just equipment failure rather than user error.
I used to fly N476DC out of Smith Field when I lived in Fort Wayne. In fact, my profile thumbnail is me sitting in the cockpit of that aeroplane.
THANKS :) "You get a Gold Star"
"I got Smith in sight" so is this Smith Field and not Fort Wayne International?
Affirmative, it was Fort Wayne Approach frequency, not the actual airport
There are many airports in the area
476DC was on radar services with FWA - in that scenario, you remain on freq until you report airport in sight (or just say cancel radar services). Then you go back to a VFR squawk and change to the CTAF. Frequency in the video is Fort Wayne Approach (out of Fort Wayne International, it's the only controlled airport in the immediate area).
"Is anybody out there!???"
"Sir, there is no Fort Wayne Approach. You've been working a simulator your whole career. We are simulator pilots."
Just nod if you can hear me.
@@leohorstmeier Is there anyone home?
@@BaldFinanceMan Come on now,
I hear your radio's down
Fort wayne controllers are the nicest controllers that I have ever come across!
I did my first solo XC out of GWB, keyed up FWA for the flight following to LAF and I managed the call so well that the controller said I sounded like a pro. Gave me a lot of confidence for that XC for sure.
Lost my medical a solid month or two after that though
I guess it makes sense to give the airport's altitude to each approaching craft, but it always makes me think that the airports are randomly bobbing up and down.
Altimeter setting is not the same as altitude. Air pressure changes, the altimeter needs to be adjusted for the local air pressure in order to read the true altitude.
It's not the altitude what they give, it's the pressure
@@jacksos101 Thank you! You learn something new every day!
From a pressure altimeter's point of view, the airport *is* bobbing up and down
@@MatthijsvanDuin hee hee
I'm stressed out by his callsign changing constantly between N281TW, Cherokee 281TW, Archer 281TW...
There was an emergency landing at LIS today due to a landing gear issue. Might be a good one for you to do.
I'd like to hear this ATC guy actually enunciate the word "Wayne" just once.
What, I thought he was Fortwin approach?
I thought it was 4 1 approach. (four one, not forty one).
He got a couple, but it could use some work.
sounded like Fort One to me...
Foreign approach is what I heard
"Cessna T206H Turbo Stationair, N52854: Accident occurred June 16, 2022 in Austin, Texas"
How's the Allegiant one coming along?
What about the American Airlines plane who had to go back to Madrid due to engine problems?
This is incredibly stressful
Really?
@@rubenvillanueva8635 yes
@@Miwhe Could you please explain how you arrive at that?
@@Miwhe don’t answer it’s clearly an AI trying to understand feelings
I agree with MAB , definitely Borg
88J.... wow. I didn't even know Biden was a pilot.
Made me nervous just contemplating ATC being NORDO...
Please do flight from Detroit to Seattle
DL 830
Returned to Detroit short after takeoff
American 1545, 17 June 2022. Phoenix to Nashville. Medical emergency diverted to Albuquerque.
South bend doesn’t have a 122.8
Very dangerous.
Not really. AFAIK they have routines for radio outages, it's not like they start landing on top of (or crash into) each other.
Might be a problem for someone already in trouble of course, but most normal traffic has a bit of spare fuel and an alternate airport exactly for when unexpected stuff like this happens.
In this day and age we should already have double-route communications and redundancy.
Sweet Aviation…
Gold star?????
Time to seek out police bribes!
I do not want a Gold Star! Respect it Better! Kind Regards, England!
🌟
Who's in Texas?
1st
You get a gold star as well 👍🏻