GRAVITY ONE FROM ORIGIN LIVE: A TURNTABLE ACCESSORY. REVIEW, CLOSE UP, PROS & CONS & RATING

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  • @luton_gmanrock
    @luton_gmanrock ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I tried one of these from the first review Paul posted out of intrigue. I wholeheartedly would say, with the highest respect, this didn't make any audio enhancements to the performance of my Thoren's TD-1600 and vinyl playback. I really wanted it to show off some subtle changes mentioned in this new review - but I seriously could not appreciate anything. It was returned as quick as it was purchased. This is my experience, others may benefit, better off spending your money on vinyl.

    • @JohnLee-db9zt
      @JohnLee-db9zt ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe the rest of your system isn’t high resolution to notice a difference.

  • @Madmart54
    @Madmart54 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just took the plunge and bought a gravity one. I wasn’t convinced it would do much. Taking it out of the box I had to give it a little poke and prod,as you do. I was a little concerned that one of the inner screws started to unscrew, so I Stopped my prodding. I played a track with the GO fitted and thought things sounded good. After removing it I thought my ears were deceiving me. The female vocalist was doing a three part harmony and with the GO removed it tended to gel into one and was more muted. Drums were smudged in with the vocals. Putting the GO back on now I could hear far more detail and all the intricaseys of the drumming-quite amazing. I’m getting to old to try different records as I could hear the improvements it was making. The sound was clearer/more effortless/sharper in focus/better sound staging etc. The amount of improvement may be subjective but it’s there. It’s now a permanent part of my record playing system.

  • @basilandrigsby
    @basilandrigsby ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My experience with the Gravity One was only so so on my turntable. The guys at Origin were very nice though and let me return it. Instead, I put the £210 towards an Ortofon Black where the benefits to my setup were enormous. It might have worked better with this cartridge, but I guess I'll never know. I still use the OL the cartridge enabler though.

  • @Unpreeeedictable
    @Unpreeeedictable ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Paul, first time visiting your channel but what a terrific review. Last week I tested five expensive turntable weights on my TW Acustics Raven One. Thanks to a willing spouse, it was a blind test - my turntable is in a separate, closed room beside the listening room. At my urging, she decided to mix it up by putting no weight on at all throughout the test and she also left the same weight on for two tests in a row. I sat in my listening spot the whole time, and each test was the same, 1-minute segment of a largely acoustic vocal song. At the end of the 30 individual tests, the respective test for each weight was revealed. There was zero correlation between my notes and the weights used. I also couldn't pick out when no weight was used.
    I am, however, very curious about the Origin Gravity One, primarily because of the novel design approach, which is completely different from the (mostly) heavy weights I tried. I may give it a try, but I will once again conduct a blind test. I firmly believe that we introduce bias in the evaluation process if we know the identity of what we are evaluating.

    • @Madmart54
      @Madmart54 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now that’s a Wife!

  • @johnnyhickman6798
    @johnnyhickman6798 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have been using a gravity one for over 6 months and have been impressed with it. It definitely improves the sound of my set up - keeps the life and vibrancy of the music but sounds more silky. Thumbs up from me.

  • @LyndonSoulGroove
    @LyndonSoulGroove ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi I have been impressed by my tweeks to my own Roken radius 5 over last 12 months, new cartridge cable, position of arm height adjusted to optimum performance , i guess this Device would take it to a new level Thanks for review

  • @TheMorph22
    @TheMorph22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Crikey! I've got one of these that I have never used, just sitting in a drawer. Looks like I'll be digging it out!

    • @mikeuk4130
      @mikeuk4130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you’ll be pleased. Please post your findings anyway.

    • @Madmart54
      @Madmart54 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That made me chuckle. I’m not being rude but did you put it next to your unwanted Christmas Socks. What other gems have you got casually tucked away. Hoping your sense of humour is like mine.

    • @TheMorph22
      @TheMorph22 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Madmart54 Funnily enough, I found the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam in an old shoe box the other day! I know! Whodathunkit?!

  • @MyKindofMusicCorvigo
    @MyKindofMusicCorvigo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding & proven product that yields a very high performance return on investment. Well done...👍

  • @bobannon7799
    @bobannon7799 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Works fantastic on my Rega P10, noticeably improved focus in soundstage and "in the room" projection of vocals, particularly on Girl with a guitar type stuff.
    Fantastic value and off the scale bang for your buck.
    Use mine with a Collaro red mat on my P10, the combination lifts an already next-level sounding turntable.
    How so?
    I think Rega's F1 level engineering and vibration control on the deck itself makes sure zero vibration from the ground reaches the stylus.
    The Gravity One tackles it from the top side, the vinyl record itself.
    Get one of these, they bloody work.

  • @colinsmall8170
    @colinsmall8170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried one of these,a friend bought one and asked me to try on my Well Tempered Reference,does diddley squat for me,may work better as a doorstop,bit pricey though,half a brick cheaper.😂

  • @condorito692
    @condorito692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent review Paul, I purchased this Origin Live several months ago after your first review, and I can verify that everything you mentioned is correct. I have compared this Origin Live with several other TT weights (i.e micro seiki, soundeck, EAT, vintage pioneer brass, etc) and amazingly the Origin Live wins all the time.
    I wonder if someone was or could ever compare this Origin Live with the out-of-this-world price "shun mook".
    Best regards.

  • @gibbolp7618
    @gibbolp7618 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting review, especially as you assessed it on a cheaper deck as well. Thank you. 😃👍🏻

  • @franciscovasquez5979
    @franciscovasquez5979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your Amon Duul Phallus Dei.

  • @luiscarlosdiezarroyo3292
    @luiscarlosdiezarroyo3292 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous , It's wonderfoul , now it comes with metal screws , Thaks for the recommendation .

  • @willallison37
    @willallison37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the Gravity one last year. I have a real problem whit it, the plastic screws have fallen off on the outer ring, and center wood part. Which broke two of the screws that hold the wood part together. I feel that they should have said in their documentation that the screws need to tighten from time to time so the screws don't fall out. Now I don't have a record stabilizer any more $275.00 and I hope Origin Live will help me out. I will let you know what happens.

    • @Madmart54
      @Madmart54 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the metal screws but it does seem they’re free to possibly drop out over time. I think it’s a device that might need a bit of maintenance over the years, so it’s worth noting the loose screw settings and inner piece position when new. No torque wrench settings needed here!

  • @ginovairo6487
    @ginovairo6487 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have just purchased a gravity one as I was very curious after seeing this review. I have a Garrard 401 in a heavy plinth (23 kg in total) fitted with a FunkFirm achromat platter mat (with an Alphason xenon titanium tone arm and a Koetsu rosewood cartridge). I have been using a ~400g Bren-1 brass record weight to help couple the record to the platter. I have only been able to have a cursory listen to the Gravity One thus far and the jury is out until I can do some more serious listening over an extended period. I’m interested to hear of others experience using this “weight” with an idler wheel deck and also if the combination with the platter mat may also impact the effectiveness of the Gravity One.

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Gravity One is but one tool in a basket of tools that will aid your turntable. A quality mat is also required, in addition, to anything you place over the spindle.

  • @watdanuqta-mf5ms
    @watdanuqta-mf5ms 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So it doesn't rattle? I was going to get in touch with LINN about this product but then I figured I already knew what they were going to say. Any feedback from an LP12 owner who didn't bastardize his LINN?

  • @brucecampbell1245
    @brucecampbell1245 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is one of these at the end of every automobile engine. It's called a harmonic balancer or a torsional damper. It wouldn't be difficult to make one for 25 or $30 worth of material.

  • @scottbaylor6215
    @scottbaylor6215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. I’ll have to look into that. 👍🏻

  • @baggiesbhoy6444
    @baggiesbhoy6444 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tempted to get this, does it flatten warps?
    Got a few rare vinyl records like the A2/B2 Dark side of the moon press that has a mild warp that can be heard when playing, curious to know if this will help.
    Also big thanks Paul for your cleaning guide, getting Tergikleen from the US was a game changer for me, followed your instructions (even bought the Disco anti-stat) and added in the the Vinyl Vac 33 for hoovering at the end and I could not be happier with the results, many of my records that were VG or VG+ are now NM.

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad the vinyl guide was of use but the Gravity won’t help with warps I’m afraid. As I said in the review, it has next to no weight. The only safe way to sort warps is via an expensive, dedicated record flattener.

  • @512bb
    @512bb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now this looks like a "weight" that may actually work on a Linn LP12. Great review, thank you Paul.

  • @mikeuk4130
    @mikeuk4130 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Paul. I agree with your every word in this review. Mark Baker of OL is a very clever engineer, he listens and understands. I read up on this item on the website, was intrigued and so splashed out, expecting to be seeking a refund. I use a Nottingham Analogue Dais t/t, a non-suspended belt-drive design which has a 20kg steel main platter, topped off by a lighter graphite one, all sitting on a massive oil-fed bearing. I played an old favourite, Brothers in Arms, which I know quite well. Within a few seconds of “Why Worry?”, I could tell that an already-clear recording was sounding better, cleaner, more natural and easy to listen to. It was as dramatic as losing all the first reflections from the walls and ceilings of an untreated room. It seemed obvious that it was dealing with all the unwanted reflections within the record itself, Mark Knopfler’s vocal freed from his guitar and any apparent reverb, and standing out more clearly, although softer and with more intimacy. Every record I have tried now sounds better with the Gravity One, which really ought to be called the Gravitas One, as it is a serious piece of kit, even though it looks and feels like a toy. I have long been convinced that the way to a truly satisfying system is about removing all the distractions, the unwanted signals, of which you are only aware once they’ve gone. No more straining to hear minute sounds which you somehow know are there, but which are buried in the grunge. Sorry to go on, but it’s that good.

  • @bryanjackson5913
    @bryanjackson5913 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will this work with Rega P6 please can you tell, I am in joying your reviews looking forward to more.

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rega don’t recommend clamps et al but this example is light and non intrusive so I reckon it will be fine.

  • @Toki1908
    @Toki1908 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think it can improve sound of a turntable with Hexmat as well?

  • @MrSidMuff
    @MrSidMuff ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul, many thanks for a very detailed and enthusiastic review. I am very much of the digital generation and use my Linn Axis, with Ortofon 2M Red very sparingly...as I find it dull and lifeless. Would you recommend this to 'liven things up' a bit?

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm, let me answer this in a Friday video. Watch the skies Sid.

    • @MrSidMuff
      @MrSidMuff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAudiophileMan - ooh err...how exciting 👍

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrSidMuff Had to cancel that Sid - apologies. So I'll answer here. I'd look at an improve cartridge for this one. The Gravity One is another option. A quality mat is another one (and I've plenty of mat reviews on this channel for you to check out). Make sure the turntable is isolated too. Is it on a paper HiFi half or - better - wall shelf? All of these things make a difference alongside a quality phono amp.

    • @MrSidMuff
      @MrSidMuff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAudiophileMan - cheers Paul. I use a Quad Artera Pre at the moment with my Axis, LV X and 2M Red. It is isolated 'away' from a custom rack using a chopping block and Sorbothane isolation pads. I have considered an iFI Zen Phono and an 'upgrade' to a 2M Black cartridge/stylus. I loaned a 2M Black stylus and that was a welcome improvement for sure - given I listen to vinyl sparingly any 'upgrade' needs to be 'real' and of a value. Enjoy the break.

    • @MrSidMuff
      @MrSidMuff ปีที่แล้ว

      Development: I delved into the Artera Pre menus and functionality and upped the gain on the Phono input and used the Trim feature to lift the Treble a touch - I'm delighted to report a very welcome change in dynamics and engagement - the 'spark' I missed from vinyl is now there. 👍

  • @tgdrumbeat
    @tgdrumbeat ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from Atlantic Canada! Do you think this weight that's not a weight would be ok on my Rega P6?

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Rega doesn't recommend any sort of clamp or stabiliser for its turntables. Saying that, the Gravity is light indeed. Me? I'd ask a dealer for a home demo and try it on your Rega. If the dealer is sensible and wants to establish a relationship with a possible future customer, he'll agree.

  • @ernesttricarico6402
    @ernesttricarico6402 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always enjoy your videos especially the recordings behind you. Finding this device interesting I will be purchasing one after the holidays. I cannot thank you enough for all your help and recommendations over the years

  • @1x3dil
    @1x3dil ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Paul. We’re definitely again in the territory of having hearing that is at a level to appreciate the difference . Reading many of the comments this device obviously works , so definitely why not invest if you poses a good set of lugs Kind regards as always 😀👍👍👍

  • @iraeich
    @iraeich ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Only one correction. Shun Mook is a California company.

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is true, apologies. Are the founders Japanese though? Korean? I'm not sure. Maybe you know? I think the logo threw me as did their collaborations with Japanese companies. Anyway, yes. Thanks for the correction. Oh and as a by-the by? The company's website reads like a bad Asiatic-English translation - it's in desperate need of a sub editor.

  • @sportsmunken
    @sportsmunken ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the Gravity One compatible with 7" singles with large centerholes?

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes if you use a cheapo, flat 7" adaptor. It will fit right over that.

    • @sportsmunken
      @sportsmunken ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAudiophileMan Thanks for the reply. It will be interesting to try this with the Hexmat Yellowbird....

  • @chrissimmonds4383
    @chrissimmonds4383 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the Gravity One to use on my Technics SP-25 b'cast TT, using an Origin Live modded RB300, with Ortofon Quintet Blue. I cannot absolutely define what are the benefits, only to say, that my turntable setup now sounds better (related to disc pressing and mastering quality) than my high level digital setup, which is Innuos ZENmini iii server, Innuos Phoenix reclocker feeding the Chord Mscaler/TT2 dac. The analogue setup has to be a good pressing to outperform the digital, but when it does it is extremely captivating in terms of imaging and clarity. I love opera, and the clarity and placing of the performers, is quite extraordinary. I also use the Soundeck replacement mat for the Technics, but the Origin Live Gravity One adds to that improvement that brings. My analog front end is now quite exceptional. If only I could change records and tracks by remote control!

  • @leonardblush2557
    @leonardblush2557 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if, for example, a Gravity One on a Debut Cart Evo could match a Debut Pro without one.
    Or could a Planar 2 with one play ball with a Planar 3 without one(assuming they have the same cart)?

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as you see the cash outlay as part of a series of ongoing upgrades then sure, it will certainly help. Although there are lots of upgrades you can apply to the EVO that will enable it to compete with the Pro even before a Gravity One comes into play. Rega does not recommend anything sitting on its turntable's platter but it would certainly be worth a try and I recommend requested a home demo from a dealer.

  • @davidbishop1570
    @davidbishop1570 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Paul.Fascinating review especially as I have been an avid turntable 'tweeker' for many years. The only original items left on my LP12 are the motor/Lingo, bearing and outer platter. Sub-platter/shaft replaced with the Mober assembly, plinth is by Woodsong, top plate is a Tiger Paw Khan, Mat is a 3mm Archomat, Extreme Phono carbon fibre arm board and sub-chassis, SME 309 tonearm, Clearaudio Titanium cartridge and Audio Art phono cable. This feds a Ayre phono pre-amp onto an Audio Research VSi75 so I feel that I have a fairly high resolution system. I have tried record weights and clamps before and they just seem to suck the life and sparkle out of the presentation. But my interest has been sparked by the Gravity One so it has been ordered. I hope is does not take to long to get to Vancouver Island considering the distance and some postal issues I think you are having in my old homeland at the moment. Cheers, Dave.

    • @mikeuk4130
      @mikeuk4130 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Dave. I hope you’ll post your findings here, because your system sounds fab and yet I still think this device will improve it!

  • @johnparks6172
    @johnparks6172 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review!
    This is what I'm interested in. A lower noise floor. But for uneven to slightly warped records how does the G1 perform?

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many thanks and it has the same sonic effect on all vinyl, flat or otherwise.

  • @tonyjedioftheforest1364
    @tonyjedioftheforest1364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A quick question. Using something like this or clamp/weight do you need to adjust the suspension on your turntable?
    I have just taken the plunge and ordered a Linn LP12 from Inspire so now I am going up in the world turntable wise I can look at accessories that will improve the sound even further.

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the Gravity One is very light so it should be fine. If you're anxious about it give a Linn dealer a ring, ask him how much the suspension can take before it's too disturbed and then compare that with the Gravity One weight. Otherwise, grab a home demo from a dealer and do your own home tests.

    • @tonyjedioftheforest1364
      @tonyjedioftheforest1364 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAudiophileMan thank you Paul for getting back. I asked because the suspension on the Linn is way more sensitive than the Systemdek 900 and the Revolver that as you know is a solid type.
      By the way I have taken your advice on other videos and opted for a budget Sumiko Pearl mm through the Pro-Ject phono box mkII as a starter until I can afford a decent mc instead of a budget mc then having to upgrade again. The arm is the Roksan Nima. Robert from Inspire Audio did me a new build at a very good price. He came to my house and set it up properly and spent some time listening to my records and having a very pleasant chat. Outstanding service. He threw in the cartridge for free and said he will pop over with an Acro mat as I was asking about one. He even adjusted the Ittok arm on the Revolver as he said it wasn’t set properly as I am keeping that as a second turntable to play second hand worn records on. My Systemdek has been passed on to my middle son replacing his Dual CS505 mk3. I have also purchased a Audio Technica LP120XUXB again on your recommendation for my oldest son along with a pair of Edifier 1700BT speakers. We are all going to have a very musical Christmas. The Linn is stunning. The hype is true, I only wish I had bought one in the 1980’s.

    • @jakemurphy9536
      @jakemurphy9536 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good man, is Robert. I've had dealings with him in the past. The Audio Technica direct drive turntables are excellent value for money. With a few tweaks, they perform way better than a good many of the entry decks from other manufacturers.

  • @dell177
    @dell177 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

    • @TheAudiophileMan
      @TheAudiophileMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's very kind of you - many thanks for your support dell177!

  • @Waitaminutesilly
    @Waitaminutesilly ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you tried Gravity One with HexMat?

  • @nathan43082
    @nathan43082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I will stick to digital.

  • @brucknerian9664
    @brucknerian9664 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can make my own from a hockey puck. Can't afford the real thing.

  • @tigrisbrizs2440
    @tigrisbrizs2440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad news: It is no useful for soviet turntables, because we know physics. It is good joke for £210. :::)