holy moly this is insanely good, singing for ten years at this point, he was fantastic later as well, but this early stuff blows everyone else out of the water. HE ACTUALLY sounds like two people singing.
is there any more early stuff, he sang first in Glasgow I believe before Covent Gardens, oh if only there were recording of every thing he sang. I just listened to 1974 it was unearthly, the audience was screaming. I imagine what it must have been like when people first heard him, and couldn't believe what they were listening to.
Pavarotti a ''light'' voice, sir, you are having a laugh....did you ever hear him in the opera house?....i did, and certainly everyone else fortunate to be present that night, his voice reverberated to all corners, with his customary ease of delivery i might add.
john m Light doesnt mean it didn’t penetrate. It was a lyric voice that could move like a leggiero in his younger days. It was not a dramatic voice. It wasn’t heavy, but man was it resonant.
@@xxsaruman82xx87 Everyone who actually heard Bjoerling live was surprised by the popularity he later achieved among those who learned his voice from recordings, as did I. The constant comment when as a teenager I would express my assertion that Bjoerling was one of the greatest of tenors, along these lines, "Bjoerling? ...small voice." and some would add, "but he phrased beautifully."
This fragment is present on Pavarotti and The Italian Tenor documentary. There is a part near the end where Leone Magiera explains certain aspects of Luciano’s technique. After that, this clip from Parmi veder le lagrime is shown. This same one. You can watch the entire documentary on TH-cam. Just search it. There is no edit on that one.
Special, special, special.....no one can touch Pavarotti at his best. A few volume junkies waffle on about Del Monaco and Corelli(great tenors though they were) but, Pavarotti sings their heads off.
Yes, as stated above, the easiest way to compare is listen to other tenors. The spinto tenors generally have 'darker' voices with heavier vocal weight and would generally be much louder in the opera house. This weight and darkness cannot be replicated unless you possess it. It is entirely natural. Immitation of a heavier voice when you possess a lighter one leads to vocal decline, as was the case with Carreras, later Pavarotti, Alagna and many others.
You're wrong. Listen to the 1966 version of this and you'll hear clearly, when he was younger he could literally launch into the notes in a special way. Listen to that version and you will see what I mean. Pavarotti, 1966, Rome, Parmi veder le lagrime, listen.
This is better. Pavarotti said that Sutherland learnd him to do the passaggio in the late 60siess. You can hear well that the high note here is much better, warm and healthier because covered.
If i am not mistaken thing is that if tenor for example tries to sing like a baritone his voice will have no carrying power cause tenors do not focus well in low mid range.One good example is Tonio di paolo, you can see his video in pavarotti masterclass video. He was accomplished baritone but he could not be heard over orchestra because his vocal fach was really a tenor.
I know what you hear, but it is not what you think. There is no elimination of reverb either. Again...listen to the 1966 version I referred to some 3 years ago. Complete silence before the Bb? No, the orchestra pauses and waits for the high note and then continues with his voice. It's totally seamless if you give Pavarotti's voice the credit it deserves in 1971.
Unless his voice can magically erase the reverb from the entire theatre, it was edited. I'm not saying that he didn't project that note, just that something is wrong with the tape since there's complete silence before the Bb. It's a shame because he wasn't at his best that night, but I still think that it's the best recording that showcases his amazing squillo and sheer power. Viva Pavarotti! :)
Often what helps a voice carry whatever the classification is the amount of ring or"squillo" it has--for example, Florez has a tremendous amount of this quality for a light tenor and so is audible and seems more powerful than some tenors in the leggero or tenore di grazia category without this quality or with squillo only in the high register of the voice.
John M, it is a fact that Pavarotti possessed a lyric tenor voice, which is at the lighter end of the spectrum. I am not sure how much you know about singing, but the carrying power of a voice has little if anything at all to do with how heavy or light the voice is. Carrying power is related to healthy cord closure and high overtones in the voice which is achieved through having a solid technique. You appear to have confused vocal fach with carrying power. This is an elementary mistake.
Carlo Pia all agree. What was amazing about his voice was how close the chest and head voices were in tone. When he goes into cover, you notice but it doesn’t bother you. The two registers just fit together well. That’s the greatest gift he had, IMO.
Честно сказать эта интерпретация мне не очень нравится. больше нравится с выстрелом на верхнюю ноту, как в фильме-опера с его же участием. Такая манера лучше получается у Марио Филипески в этой же опере и тоже в фильме.
Pavarotti had a rather light voice (he was very capable of singing some Bellini, all Donizetti, light Verdi and lightest Puccini very well). Carreras was a tad heavier than Pavarotti, I don't think it was actually all that much of a difference. I think he sang so many heavy roles too early.
Despite poor video and sound, this is a masterclass in beautiful tenor singing.
Quanto manchi Lucià
Here, Pavarotti was at his best, & the best of best !!!
Superb , his voice , technique and phrasing , the continuous smooth flow of sound .
Wow, he looks like an absolute stud here!
Good lord... this is perfection. I haven't heard a finer rendition, even from him.
Entonces no ha escuchado a Kraus.
Mario Filippeschi?
As superb as Kraus was, no one surpasses Pavarotti. No one.
Beautifully sung by lyric tenor Pavarotti. A lesson in great singing here, plus lots of feeling!@@Ravenelvenlady
It's easy to forget just how beautiful his voice was and how superbly well he sang...
What a voice Pavarotti had! And he didn't squander it or force it. He kept it under control with that marvelous technique. LOVE this clip
holy moly this is insanely good, singing for ten years at this point, he was fantastic later as well, but this early stuff blows everyone else out of the water. HE ACTUALLY sounds like two people singing.
Sigh.....Verdi in 9/8 time (my favorite) and Pavarotti demonstrating what bel canto means....thank goodness for video!
LUCIANO'S BEST VERSION THIS ARIA.. Unique Stupendous acting, character and V O I C E
Straordinario
Imagine being in the audience hearing this perfection ! Magnificent!!!
I know. Even on this poor recording he sounds absolutely exquisite. In person, it must have been an incredible experience.
My jaw hit the floor first time I saw this
I bet , deep down , some modern tenors curse the name Pavarotti. He set the bar so high they can never reach it. yet will always be judged by it.
Exactly! He is cruel in his finesty.
- but you know if you sing it like this, you are gonna curse all singers, right?
- deal with it 😎
Absolutely gorgeous!!! Sound better than ever.
Best ever!
Grande Luciano 🙏🙏🙏
La mejor etapa vocal de Luciano Pavarotti.
Es hermoso ♥️
I will always adore the Maestro ! 2019....
Stupendo, immenso PAVAROTTI !!!
is there any more early stuff, he sang first in Glasgow I believe before Covent Gardens, oh if only there were recording of every thing he sang. I just listened to 1974 it was unearthly, the audience was screaming. I imagine what it must have been like when people first heard him, and couldn't believe what they were listening to.
GRANDE...GRANDISSIMO...IMMENSO!!!!
Que maravilha ter acesso ao canto de Pavarotti desde seu início de carreira. Inesquecível.
Maravilloso!
che voce meravigliosa in quegli anni. .....bellissimo. ..
sicuramente ( unitamente a Roma 1966) il top assoluto di questa romanza. bravo. unico impareggiabile !
siamo allo zenit del canto
Wonderful.
Pavarotti a ''light'' voice, sir, you are having a laugh....did you ever hear him in the opera house?....i did, and certainly everyone else fortunate to be present that night, his voice reverberated to all corners, with his customary ease of delivery i might add.
john m
Light doesnt mean it didn’t penetrate. It was a lyric voice that could move like a leggiero in his younger days. It was not a dramatic voice. It wasn’t heavy, but man was it resonant.
You are right.... Pavarotti 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟the top....for ever...R.I.P
@@jbell0243 It was a leggero voice, but that does not mean that wasn't resonant. I love Pavarotti, but I prefer the young Bjorling.
@@jbell0243 well, that's why he is light lyric
@@xxsaruman82xx87 Everyone who actually heard Bjoerling live was surprised by the popularity he later achieved among those who learned his voice from recordings, as did I. The constant comment when as a teenager I would express my assertion that Bjoerling was one of the greatest of tenors, along these lines, "Bjoerling? ...small voice." and some would add, "but he phrased beautifully."
This fragment is present on Pavarotti and The Italian Tenor documentary. There is a part near the end where Leone Magiera explains certain aspects of Luciano’s technique. After that, this clip from Parmi veder le lagrime is shown. This same one. You can watch the entire documentary on TH-cam. Just search it. There is no edit on that one.
th-cam.com/video/NW4LgmxJfY8/w-d-xo.html
Special, special, special.....no one can touch Pavarotti at his best. A few volume junkies waffle on about Del Monaco and Corelli(great tenors though they were) but, Pavarotti sings their heads off.
A Master......
Vielen lieben Dank für diese "alte Aufnahme". Es gibt k e i n e n besseren!
He had the hanky already. Lol. Bravo Maestro.
Wow
Give me this voice pls... i want ro show the Theaters how you need to song to get ppl in the Theaters....
Why all the japanese performaces have such a high quality of tone? I heard nhk orchestra in amsterdam in 2016, but havent considered it as top...
Yes, as stated above, the easiest way to compare is listen to other tenors. The spinto tenors generally have 'darker' voices with heavier vocal weight and would generally be much louder in the opera house. This weight and darkness cannot be replicated unless you possess it. It is entirely natural. Immitation of a heavier voice when you possess a lighter one leads to vocal decline, as was the case with Carreras, later Pavarotti, Alagna and many others.
Thank you for that polite and insightful reply....i think inadvertently you lent some support to my comment.
I have not read all the comments but just before the Bb near the end there is an edit, so one can't really hear how he handled that phrase.
Eccellente
You're wrong. Listen to the 1966 version of this and you'll hear clearly, when he was younger he could literally launch into the notes in a special way. Listen to that version and you will see what I mean. Pavarotti, 1966, Rome, Parmi veder le lagrime, listen.
This is better. Pavarotti said that Sutherland learnd him to do the passaggio in the late 60siess. You can hear well that the high note here is much better, warm and healthier because covered.
Sovraumano!
😍
If i am not mistaken thing is that if tenor for example tries to sing like a baritone his voice will have no carrying power cause tenors do not focus well in low mid range.One good example is Tonio di paolo, you can see his video in pavarotti masterclass video. He was accomplished baritone but he could not be heard over orchestra because his vocal fach was really a tenor.
I know what you hear, but it is not what you think. There is no elimination of reverb either. Again...listen to the 1966 version I referred to some 3 years ago. Complete silence before the Bb? No, the orchestra pauses and waits for the high note and then continues with his voice. It's totally seamless if you give Pavarotti's voice the credit it deserves in 1971.
Unless his voice can magically erase the reverb from the entire theatre, it was edited. I'm not saying that he didn't project that note, just that something is wrong with the tape since there's complete silence before the Bb.
It's a shame because he wasn't at his best that night, but I still think that it's the best recording that showcases his amazing squillo and sheer power.
Viva Pavarotti! :)
because its so loud that it distorts the mic
Impossible nowdays...
Often what helps a voice carry whatever the classification is the amount of ring or"squillo" it has--for example, Florez has a tremendous amount of this quality for a light tenor and so is audible and seems more powerful than some tenors in the leggero or tenore di grazia category without this quality or with squillo only in the high register of the voice.
florez is a lightweight compared to pavarotti with his little reedy voice.
John M, it is a fact that Pavarotti possessed a lyric tenor voice, which is at the lighter end of the spectrum. I am not sure how much you know about singing, but the carrying power of a voice has little if anything at all to do with how heavy or light the voice is. Carrying power is related to healthy cord closure and high overtones in the voice which is achieved through having a solid technique. You appear to have confused vocal fach with carrying power. This is an elementary mistake.
Carlo Pia all agree. What was amazing about his voice was how close the chest and head voices were in tone. When he goes into cover, you notice but it doesn’t bother you. The two registers just fit together well. That’s the greatest gift he had, IMO.
It's at 4:32-33.
You're very lucky indeed, what did you see him in?
come Pavarotti era il duca ..aldo filistad era de grieux
Il duca era Bergonzi y Kraus, técnicamente y estilisticamente superiores.
It sounds like the live performance was enhanced. Isn't there a blip before the last "gl'angeli" before the cadenza?
Честно сказать эта интерпретация мне не очень нравится. больше нравится с выстрелом на верхнюю ноту, как в фильме-опера с его же участием. Такая манера лучше получается у Марио Филипески в этой же опере и тоже в фильме.
Pavarotti had a rather light voice (he was very capable of singing some Bellini, all Donizetti, light Verdi and lightest Puccini very well). Carreras was a tad heavier than Pavarotti, I don't think it was actually all that much of a difference. I think he sang so many heavy roles too early.
Henry Moore i dont think Tosca is light Puccini? Pls explain than how he could master Leoncavallos Pagliacci? I dont Think La Boheme is light thou...
An edit?
Maravilhoso , mas por uma questão de gosto , prefiro a Kraus nesta ária .
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