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I completely agree with you about CPM-3V being the better choice for a heavy chopper. Magnacut is great for smaller EDC fixed blades or a multipurpose belt knife, but 3V's toughness really shines in big, heavy knives.
@srikanthm.r9465, Magnacut offers excellent corrosion resistance with good toughness and edge retention. With a proper heat treatment, it provides a very good balance of these three attributes, but it is not the best at any of them (although it's close to the best in terms of corrosion resistance.) Typically, balance is important for EDC knives because they encounter a wide range of environments and uses. For large choppers, toughness is usually the priority, which is why CPM-3V is a better choice.
I disagree. I'm so tired of keeping all my 1095 and 3v blades oiled all the time. All I buy now is magnacut... And 3v is nothing to get excited about unless you use your knife to battle cars. And all my 3v blades go dull just as fast as my aus10 blades do. So, I have no idea what people are talking about when they say 3v gets superior edge retention.
I have a Benchmade Puukko 200 in 3V. I got it for about $120, blade is great, but the sheath was junk. I don't buy them for the sheath though, so I'm ok with it. I'll get literally any other sheath on Etsy, and it'll be great.
Nah. 1095 is super tough when properly heat treated. Just look at Esee knives in 1095. They are so tough that even joeX approves of them.... 3V is way beyond tough. If you're planning on sword fighting, then I'd say 3v is the way to go. Other than that, it's just another metal that rusts easily.... I live by the ocean. So anything that isn't stainless will rust here.. And even trees contain moisture. So 3v, 1095 steels always have to be oiled if you don't want oxidation to occur.
oof. i was REALLY excited abt this knife in magnacut until i saw that it was $350. there is quite literally NO REASON that changing NOTHING BUT THE STEEL shoukd up the price by over $200. magnacut is more expensive than 1095 but the bk2 is going from maybe $3 worth of 1095 to MAYBE $15-20 worth of magnacut IF THAT. they’re smoking crack with that price.
I just checked what a foot of 1/4” x2” 1095 and 1/4” x2”magnacut cost from my supplier here in Canada. The 1095 is 20 dollars cad. The magnacut is 124cad. It is significantly more expensive and the heat treat is also way more complex. It’s not something I can do in my own shop and I need to outsource that step for magnacut adding cost. I doubt ka bar/Becker has this issue though. So in general yes it is significantly more expensive. But I don’t think it’s 200 dollars more expensive personally
@ lmfao there’s not $100 worth of magnacut in this knife. a $100 magnacut bullet is 2 feet long and 2 inches wide. you could get two entire knives out of a single 2 foot bar of magnacut for $100. even if there was magically $100 worth of steel, please tell me where they pulled the other $130 extra they’re charging out of their ass? because the normal bk2 is $120.
Selling my current survival knife to get one of these. Don’t care about the cost or crap handles/sheath, this is my dream Becker. I’ll trick it out with aftermarket handles and a custom sheath, it’ll be worth it to have a BK2 I can finally carry in heavy rain. FINALLY.
@@numberiv1137 I’ve thought the same, I’ve absolutely abused the bk9 in 1095 and honestly have zero complaints, but the thought of holding a super steel bk9 in my hands would be like holding a lightsaber.
I agree with you Aaron. Cpm 3v would've been a better choice. I have the BK2 in 1095 as well as the AK 5.5 in cpm 3v. Love the AK 5.5 with that steel choice. It is as you said "b0mb proof"
Thanks Aaron for the review. Been a backwoods bum for many years. 1095 does about all I need my knife to do, but then again, maybe I just don't know better.
Bk2 was designed to be a beast, nothing more no matter what the Steel is. I luv my BK2. I enjoy batoning and chopping with it. I should always hav a pocket knife on me so if I could on ly take one Camp knife I would choose my Schwarz LT5. I feel like it can do more and the LT5 can still take a lot of abuse. I hav had the BK2 for a lot of years & will have for a lot more years
Really really glad you like the LT5, it was awesome to be part of the design process with TJ so it’s always great to hear more and more people liking the design.
Fun ✔️ Entertaining ✔️ Great data points ✔️ I remember the days of the intro featuring chopping a gnarly branch with a bk2. I like my bk2 but I don’t use it much. I’d love to have a bk16 in magnacut!
63+ HRC is ideal on Magnacut and it won't lose any toughness. I have a super thin pocket knife that rocks 64 HRC Magnacut and I've used it to pry, turn screws, baton, etc and had zero issues
When they say HRC60 - 63 consider they went for the lower range.. the higher one is for marketing! I don’t trust mass production any longer, not today!
I don't know why people keep peddling this. The ideal hardness of magnacut is a range between 60 HRC and 65 HRC. This per Larrin Thomas, the creator of magnacut. As the hardness goes up, the toughness goes down. Magnacut does not magically ignore the laws of physics.
I'd get a new bk2, or even an ESSE 5, if it was in 3V. My main knife is a Bradford 4.5 in CPM3V -- extremely versatile and useful knife . Magnacut is everywhere but it hasn't replaced CPM 3V in my experience.
Everyone gets what they like and that's cool, but Bradford.. It costs them like $40 to manufacture the Bradford 4.5 in 3v. There's no way I'm paying $260 for what only cost them $40 bucks to make.
The famed and infamous Survive Gso 5.1 in Magnacut. Definitely durable. The edge didn't damage in some very hard use situations or seem to ever dull out.
There was actually a version of the BK2 in S35VN that came with micarta scales and a kydex sheath. It was a distributor exclusive, but I don't get why they can't do that again.
I bought one of the limited edition BK76’s in Magnacut ($275 at Kabar website but $245 at Tactical Elements) - love it! 4.88” blade, blue denim micarta. Only 435 made so act quickly…
BK2 is definitely meant to be a near-indestructible knife. It’s great to see it with no coating and magnacut! KABAR doesn’t really do micarta and leaves it up to aftermarket which is fine. I’m more than happy to see a USA made Icon like the BK2 in a super steel and for Kabar to branch out into magnacut-plus it’ll pave the way for the BK9!
Outstanding video Aaron! This is why we come to you. You earned your money today with your analysis and comparison! BK should just do something like Buck with their Pro line. Getting upgraded steel and handles on the legacy models if we want to pay for it. I'm with you on this BK. There's too much competition at that price
I agree, I’m not moved. Still love my bk2. Did the scales and had a very nice leather sheath made for my workhorse. Wear a bk15 on my shoulder. Got a turok and protagonist in reserve. I see knives I’d like to have, but until one of these $200-$300 knives ReAllY gets my attention I’m good👍🏻
This new becker bk 2 will be a monster just wish they included a better sheath and scales. Thats what made the bk2 so nice it was cheap it was reliable and burly.
I love my architect knives I have them in 3V and 1095 and Magnacut. Love the architect knives and my Esee knives and my Tops knives. Also architect knives you get a lot more for your money. I know there’s a lot of good knife companies out there. That makes great knives, but their prices for what you get way too high. By the time you add the other things I think architect is the best if you’re going get quality knives with knife sheath And carrying options and knife handles that you can pick from. Thank you! you help me make a lot of good decisions when I go to buy a knife.
Hey there, was about to comment on a 5 year old video on the BK2 to pick you brain about what you thought about the magnacut version and saw this on the corner of my eye. Watching this, I totally agree that its a miss to still have the black (zytel I believe) plastic scales instead of something to give it more flair. The BK2 glass reinforced sheath could have also needed an upgrade for the magnacut version. I think I'll also stick to my 1095 Bk2 with the micarta scales and nylon sheath (BK22 sheath) that I bought aftermarket. Fell in the knife rabbit hole a little while ago (expensive passion...) and I really appreciate your videos to help in making up my mind on knives I like. Thanks for that!
thank you for this perspective and totally agree with you. I think that if this trend keeps going with magnacut steel we will see less interest in our hobby. I for one can't afford these prices.
Back in the day, I was an outdoorsman in Interior Alaska for several decades. My best SS knives then were all 440-C. I'd have to touch up the hunter with crock sticks and a strop, when field dressing caribou and the larger game animals. But it never took more than a few minutes away from the task at hand. ... The plethora of super steels now is just incredible. The reality is that they're just slightly different shades of gray. Everyone clamors for the latest, most expensive shade of gray.
Marksaint2936, I want to go with you so I can pick up some of the vast number and broad spectrum of knives (including pocket knives) that were still being offered in 1095.
Whether MagnaCut is suitable for these thick knives or not. Living in an area with long periods of high humidity and close proximity to the sea, I personally am pleased that it is made from corrosion-resistant steel. The actual price is around $250, but this is a matter of opinion. As for the handle and sheath (as has been said before), I completely agree. Incidentally, the Exclusive sold BK-72 (S35VN, Mycarta handle and Kydex sheath) was actually sold for around $260. There was also a DLC version, but both appear to have been discontinued now.
MagnaCut, is a flash in the pan. It will fade away in a year or two. Since I cant afford anything in MagnaCut, I will never have anything. I do have the BK 16, and it is a very good knife.
My same thoughts. I'm seeing people re-purchasing the same knives they already have in good steels for Magnacut versions. I'm going to die laughing as soon as the next magical pixie dust steel comes out 😁😁😁
@@mistersmith3986 I have knives made from 425HC Stainless steel, Buck knives from the 80's, to my collection of Khukuri's that are made from 5160 truck leaf springs. I have swords made from 1055 Medium Carbon. And they are all great blades. Sharpen easy and hold a good edge. So yeah, Magnacut, I just wonder how long it will last. Oh, FYI, I've been collecting knives since the late 70's.
Agree with you on the upgrade. The fun part of getting my BK2 (and Bk7 and Bk9) was tricking out the scales and sheaths. At $350 +/- that’s just not something I’m going to do. Also, frankly, I’m not sure I’ll see the difference between the steel variants. I don’t get out as much on the trail as much, and so am not going to push any of my blades past their limits.
I have a couple of Bk's but they always felt like I was holding a brick in my medium hands so they haven't seen much use.. Never tried alternate scales though. I have a couple of magnacut blades so far, all smaller edc style blades, and love the steel. I'd go with the AK over the Bk from what I've seen.
Not really on the magnacut train. I don't have one so this is all anecdotal, but CPM3V and CPM S35VN are still my favorites. i can get the cold steel rk in 3v or the sog pillar for $99 shipped.
Am i definitely want that heavy-duty knife that will be my next purchase of things I want in my list lol😅 good luck me finding one for a good price if not al look for a similar type knife..
Great vid Aaron. Man there is truly no such thing as a perfect knife. I just got the Rokka Knife that you reviewed a couple years ago and it’s so good at everything including food prep but they should have lowered the Rockwell because just battening some hard wood today made small chips in the edge. If they ever upgrade the steel or lower Rockwell then I will buy it again so quick. It would also be nice in 5-6 inches to span the bigger wood pieces
Great video, and I agree with you. Becker is a bit late to this game for me. I already own multiple knives of theirs in 1095. Additionally, I have already purchased several different knives in Magnacut. At this stage I simply don't need another. Finally, in fairness to Becker...I would have probably have purchased this knife instead of the 1095 version if it were available at the very same time.
Brother...Bk2 was put out there for us working boys with bills, to have a blade we could count on out in the bush...no disrespect, " stupid simple, simple stupid "....all that money for a wee bit extra blade retention... HELL NO... stick with the old boy...never let me down and easy to sharpen on the fly....great breakdown, brilliant video as always....cheers...👍👍👍🏴🏴🏴🍺🍺🍺
I completely get what you're saying here, but for someone that lives in a very moist climate, I would submit to you that the KABAR Becker line - and even the BK2 - would appeal to me in a stainless steel blade. So, Magnacut Steel is like gold here because of it's ability to withstand corrosion. Personally, I love Magnacut which is very useful for purposes, but it's very expensive, so from that standpoint, you're absolutely right. Still, there have been many times when I've been on camping/catfishing trips during the summer, and we stay up all night fishing, and when we get back we are so exhausted from the trip that our equipment has to be able to withstand moisture which it will undoubtedly be exposed to for extended amounts of time. I just don't have the energy to provide the maintenance these knives require being exposed to the moisture here. Indeed, I woke up the next day from one such trip to find my beloved BK2 covered in rust from just an overnight trip, and we use the BK2s to process fire wood, heavier tasks associated with camping. We obviously don't cut bait with a BK2 or anything like that, but I would be willing to pay twice what a BK2 goes for if it was in a quality steel like S35VN. ESEE has done some of their smaller knives in S35VN, and I love them. I own the ESEE 3, ESEE 4 and ESEE Izula in S35VN steel, but I would like to see a BK2 or ESEE 6 in a quality stainless steel. Just my opinion... really enjoy your videos as always.
I love my Korean War relic Kabar, just the way it is. A perfect fighter and all-around camp knife, for not much moola. For someone in harm's way, the best carry is on the hip opposite where their pistol is, sharp edge forward. During condition red, the scabbard strap should be unstrapped. If the occasion arises to draw the knife in defense, your off hand is instantly raised, chest high, point down, sharp edge out and ready to strike defensively to the rear or to parry a blow from the front.
G'day Aaron, I can only imagine what the BKs 7 and 9 would go for ; ) Mind you I'm quite happy with 1095 Cro Van on the 9. Same with the sheath and scales, (in fairness those may change). It mostly gets used as a froe or chopper and I pair it with something smaller with more finesse for "knifey" tasks, so the 2 doesn't really suit my MO to start with. For those that love it; concur; for that moolah, yes needs the extras to sweeten the deal. Or alternatively, yep 3V for sure, good call mate. I do think a thinner stock version, (perhaps with other bells and whistles), would change it enough to warrant a new model number. i.e. It wouldn't be the same animal anymore ; ) With all the Magnacut that's already appeared and indeed into the future, you'd think the prices will come down, or at least stabalise. At this point, whilst its very good by all accounts, not sure it offers a significant "enough" benefit for the dough, over what I/we already have. Cheers Duke.
I know I'm old school and that is okay. The reason I like KaBar and Esee (and Ontario before they closed) is precisely BECAUSE they use 1095 which remains my favorite knife steel. I also like many of the other 10xx steels. I do own knives in other steels but I do not believe that 1095 is outdated, outclassed or outdone. I don't care about Magnacut this or CPM that. I like that 1095 is fairly easy to sharpen to a ridiculously sharp edge, will hold the edge well (especially if you convex the edge), is tough and won't usually break the bank. I will add to your idea about what KaBar should have done for their 'premium' version and also say that they should have offered 'special edition' 1095 versions with an upgraded sheath and an exclusive Micarta handle scale pattern (maybe a different pattern than the premium version) and priced it accordingly. For me, though, although I really like my BK2 (and Esee 5), one thing that doesn't make sense, to me, is why they would make a quarter inch thick blade only 5 inches long. I mean, if its claim to fame is as a chopper/batoner then wouldn't it make more sense to give it, say, a 6.5 inch blade so it could span just a little more or chop just a little better? So I think that is the special release they should do -the Becker BK 5XL (or something). In 1095.
I think the existence of the demko freereign in magnacut really undercuts this one you do overall get more steel in the bk 2 the rubber vs slab handles is up to personal preference but at the price the bk2 should've upgraded the handles and sheath like they did for the European s35vn version they did. the demko is not always available but the option from architect you gave also seems good especially if you want slab handles instead of rubber or get a reiff (pricier than the AK and the demko for sure but hey you get that warranty) . Honestly in the 4-5in blade range a lot of manufacturers are working with magnacut so you'd get the bk2 for the handleheld splitting maul factor in which case you're not considering these thinner knives lol
If TOPS makes a Silent Hero 4 ,Idaho Hunter or Pasayten Lite Traveler in 3v or Magnacut id consider a possible upgrade of one of those knives. I don’t feel a Magnacut upgrade on any knife right now justifies the price increase over the actual usability , the cost benefit ratio is NOT high enough for the expense, it is the Carbon Fibre of knife steels. I’ll still ultimately take a properly heat treated 1095 with cerakote and Micarta first. Maybe its a good option for saltwater coastal environments ultimately. Just my two cents.🤘
I was excited to see this for the BK2… but, In all honesty agree with your point- kinda lazy- quote un quote- on K-Bars part that they just didn’t up the scales a tad and that damm SHEATH… a nice kydex with Blade tech attached would have rushed me to pull the trigger. Now…. I’m holding off. Thx again for a great review. Spot on!
Hey Gideon thanks for all the amazing content. I have wanted to buy a BK2 for a while now and I was considering it for Christmas, and I got excited for the magna cut version, but i agree its to over priced. Just wanted to ask you and your audience. What you think of the BK72. Its a BK2 in CPM S35VN with micarta handles, which was an exclusive between K-Bar and Knives and Tools in Europe. Seems to have stopped production you can still get all the details if your google it. Cost was $309 or 355 depending on the version.
I would be more interested in a 3V version for the a BK2... personally. Yes, we agree on that. However, I think going from .25 to .20 in width would be better... I think you would still have the essence of this knife preserved and improve versatility. The 52100 [1095 CroVan] steel in the regular BK2 is plenty good for this kind of knife, though. IMHO... I have wailed on my BK2 for a few years now. I love the BK2 knife. A firewood processing champ. Chopping is good to. You can move your grip down, where your pinky is on the bottom (3 finger grip style but the pinky is still envolved) and get another almost two inches of length... and swing with abandon with little concern of it coming out of your hand.. KaBar seriously needs to up their sheath game, big-time. And, micarta handles, please. If they used 20% less steel with a .20 width... the price of adding those would be negligible, I would think. Peace...
Got mine for 250$ plus a free civivi flipper so around 180$ for the bk82 if you factor in the free knife. I like it feels comfortable but I agree for that price better scales and a better sheath would've been more appropriate for the given price. I do forsee the price dropping when magnacut becomes more common and the market answering back. I also agree the architect knives are a killer deal.
I think 3v would be too much of an overkill for a 1/4 inch thick knife lol, it really doesn't need that much toughness, magnacut is definitely a much better option and corrosion resistance is a bonus, but I agree they should've made g10/micarta scales and a kydex sheath. Also, about a cheaper alternative, I run Eafengrow EF-142, got it on sale for 48$. DC-53 steel, g10 handles, perfect kydex sheath. It is made in china but the value is insane, would love to see your review.
I agree with you, the BK 2 is an excellent knife, and the phrase applies if something works, don't fix it. The price is not justified, it is still an excellent knife, but I'll stick with the BK2.
1. excellent presentation. 2. the skill is in the person, not the tool, of course. 3. I probably own every knife in the Becker line. I won't say that one is "better" than the rest. Such is subjective. 4. Ok. I have been to exotic locations in the world such as Pakistan, the Hilltribes, South America, Pakistan, Iran . . . and never had to split a log or shave hair on my arm. . . . the usual tests for survival knife. I know how to sharpen knives and change cutting edges. 5. If I were 20 years old and not 80 years old and I truly believed that a knife company would exist forever, I would be concerned about a knife having a warranty. However, my Ek knives were made by the original company that is out business. Hey. I had lifetime brakes and that brake shop folded over a decade ago.. 6. If you want a top steel blade, go for it. 7. I absolutely agree with you on the sheath. I have the Spartan Blades fixed blade knife you reviewed months ago . . . the best sheath on the market. The other shtf fixed blades at the computer are an Al Mar, a Kizlyar Supreme (from the Russian Federation), a Sog Government 13 and the current issue military knife of Estonia and Finland (a Pukko type knife on steroids).
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I completely agree with you about CPM-3V being the better choice for a heavy chopper. Magnacut is great for smaller EDC fixed blades or a multipurpose belt knife, but 3V's toughness really shines in big, heavy knives.
Can I ask why ,not have any exp with magnacut
@srikanthm.r9465, Magnacut offers excellent corrosion resistance with good toughness and edge retention. With a proper heat treatment, it provides a very good balance of these three attributes, but it is not the best at any of them (although it's close to the best in terms of corrosion resistance.) Typically, balance is important for EDC knives because they encounter a wide range of environments and uses. For large choppers, toughness is usually the priority, which is why CPM-3V is a better choice.
I disagree. I'm so tired of keeping all my 1095 and 3v blades oiled all the time. All I buy now is magnacut... And 3v is nothing to get excited about unless you use your knife to battle cars. And all my 3v blades go dull just as fast as my aus10 blades do. So, I have no idea what people are talking about when they say 3v gets superior edge retention.
Since magnacut came out 3v prices have dropped considerably so I'm good with that lol.
I have a Benchmade Puukko 200 in 3V. I got it for about $120, blade is great, but the sheath was junk. I don't buy them for the sheath though, so I'm ok with it. I'll get literally any other sheath on Etsy, and it'll be great.
Nah. 1095 is super tough when properly heat treated. Just look at Esee knives in 1095. They are so tough that even joeX approves of them.... 3V is way beyond tough. If you're planning on sword fighting, then I'd say 3v is the way to go. Other than that, it's just another metal that rusts easily.... I live by the ocean. So anything that isn't stainless will rust here.. And even trees contain moisture. So 3v, 1095 steels always have to be oiled if you don't want oxidation to occur.
💯% agree about the 3V. I've been waiting for a 3V version for over 10 years
oof. i was REALLY excited abt this knife in magnacut until i saw that it was $350. there is quite literally NO REASON that changing NOTHING BUT THE STEEL shoukd up the price by over $200. magnacut is more expensive than 1095 but the bk2 is going from maybe $3 worth of 1095 to MAYBE $15-20 worth of magnacut IF THAT. they’re smoking crack with that price.
Blade HQ and others have it for $250. Still pricey but much better than the MSRP.
Magnacut is way more expensive than 1095. Close to 100$ just for the steel
I just checked what a foot of 1/4” x2” 1095 and 1/4” x2”magnacut cost from my supplier here in Canada. The 1095 is 20 dollars cad. The magnacut is 124cad. It is significantly more expensive and the heat treat is also way more complex. It’s not something I can do in my own shop and I need to outsource that step for magnacut adding cost. I doubt ka bar/Becker has this issue though. So in general yes it is significantly more expensive. But I don’t think it’s 200 dollars more expensive personally
If you talk to any knife makers that are using MagnaCut, they will let you know it takes significantly more time and more abrasive to grind it
@ lmfao there’s not $100 worth of magnacut in this knife. a $100 magnacut bullet is 2 feet long and 2 inches wide. you could get two entire knives out of a single 2 foot bar of magnacut for $100. even if there was magically $100 worth of steel, please tell me where they pulled the other $130 extra they’re charging out of their ass? because the normal bk2 is $120.
The Schwartz Lt5 is my new favorite knife, had a wonderful time camping with it in Washington state in September
Absolutely agree! Excellent vid. Short, informative and still entertaining. Thank you.
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Selling my current survival knife to get one of these. Don’t care about the cost or crap handles/sheath, this is my dream Becker. I’ll trick it out with aftermarket handles and a custom sheath, it’ll be worth it to have a BK2 I can finally carry in heavy rain. FINALLY.
I totally agree! For that kind of money it better have upgraded scales and sheath
For that money it better swallow.
For that money it better swallow.
Keeping the age old Ultramid (ie. plastic) handles is an immediate deal breaker for me.
Every used 1095 Bk2 can tell a story. I love my heavy friend.
Amen 🙏🏼
Demko freereign in maganacut would be a worthy mention
What we need is a bk9 in a super steel.
@@austin3115 3v would be my choice
I would imagine if the BK2 in Magnacut does well then the BK9 will follow along!
Frankly, the whole line including the discontinued knives would be nice.
For $190-210 in 3V it would slaughter the Junglas. On second thought I want a Junglas 2 in 3V.
@@numberiv1137 I’ve thought the same, I’ve absolutely abused the bk9 in 1095 and honestly have zero complaints, but the thought of holding a super steel bk9 in my hands would be like holding a lightsaber.
I agree with you Aaron. Cpm 3v would've been a better choice. I have the BK2 in 1095 as well as the AK 5.5 in cpm 3v. Love the AK 5.5 with that steel choice. It is as you said "b0mb proof"
Totally, 3v is a great choice for a tough knife.
Thanks Aaron for the review. Been a backwoods bum for many years. 1095 does about all I need my knife to do, but then again, maybe I just don't know better.
Bk2 was designed to be a beast, nothing more no matter what the Steel is. I luv my BK2. I enjoy batoning and chopping with it. I should always hav a pocket knife on me so if I could on ly take one Camp knife I would choose my Schwarz LT5. I feel like it can do more and the LT5 can still take a lot of abuse. I hav had the BK2 for a lot of years & will have for a lot more years
Really really glad you like the LT5, it was awesome to be part of the design process with TJ so it’s always great to hear more and more people liking the design.
Fun ✔️
Entertaining ✔️
Great data points ✔️
I remember the days of the intro featuring chopping a gnarly branch with a bk2.
I like my bk2 but I don’t use it much.
I’d love to have a bk16 in magnacut!
The BK16 is a great knife! They have a website exclusive in magna cut and denim Micarta. A 275. It’s not too bad.
@@gideonstactical whoa! I’ll have to check it out. If you said that in the video I missed it. Thanks 🙏
63+ HRC is ideal on Magnacut and it won't lose any toughness. I have a super thin pocket knife that rocks 64 HRC Magnacut and I've used it to pry, turn screws, baton, etc and had zero issues
When they say HRC60 - 63 consider they went for the lower range.. the higher one is for marketing! I don’t trust mass production any longer, not today!
It is a tough steel!
I don't know why people keep peddling this. The ideal hardness of magnacut is a range between 60 HRC and 65 HRC. This per Larrin Thomas, the creator of magnacut. As the hardness goes up, the toughness goes down. Magnacut does not magically ignore the laws of physics.
I'd get a new bk2, or even an ESSE 5, if it was in 3V. My main knife is a Bradford 4.5 in CPM3V -- extremely versatile and useful knife . Magnacut is everywhere but it hasn't replaced CPM 3V in my experience.
Everyone gets what they like and that's cool, but Bradford.. It costs them like $40 to manufacture the Bradford 4.5 in 3v. There's no way I'm paying $260 for what only cost them $40 bucks to make.
The famed and infamous Survive Gso 5.1 in Magnacut. Definitely durable. The edge didn't damage in some very hard use situations or seem to ever dull out.
still waiting on mine...😭
How many people did Survive rip-off?
@@MutsPub Alot. I got lucky. That being said. The knife itself is incredible and now rare. Outstanding. The company though is dog shit
There was actually a version of the BK2 in S35VN that came with micarta scales and a kydex sheath. It was a distributor exclusive, but I don't get why they can't do that again.
The BK2 in 1095 has done everything I wanted at less than a C-note. Diminishing returns are strong with the MC BK2.
Agreed - They should have done a 3v version instead. And they need to quit whatever they're smoking to come to those prices...
I bought one of the limited edition BK76’s in Magnacut ($275 at Kabar website but $245 at Tactical Elements) - love it! 4.88” blade, blue denim micarta. Only 435 made so act quickly…
Ooooh, prob not getting one but that is tempting.
BK-2 has stood test of time & is still relevant!
I 1000% agree that cpm3v would have been the best choice.
Falkniven uses A2. Never owned one, but I understand they are excellent.
I agree with you my friend. great job bro.
BK2 is definitely meant to be a near-indestructible knife. It’s great to see it with no coating and magnacut! KABAR doesn’t really do micarta and leaves it up to aftermarket which is fine. I’m more than happy to see a USA made Icon like the BK2 in a super steel and for Kabar to branch out into magnacut-plus it’ll pave the way for the BK9!
I agree with you 💯
CPM 3V is the way to go
Outstanding video Aaron! This is why we come to you. You earned your money today with your analysis and comparison! BK should just do something like Buck with their Pro line. Getting upgraded steel and handles on the legacy models if we want to pay for it. I'm with you on this BK. There's too much competition at that price
Thanks, I appreciate it!
My favorite Becker is the BK5 which unfortunately has been discontinued 😢
I agree, I’m not moved. Still love my bk2. Did the scales and had a very nice leather sheath made for my workhorse. Wear a bk15 on my shoulder. Got a turok and protagonist in reserve. I see knives I’d like to have, but until one of these $200-$300 knives ReAllY gets my attention I’m good👍🏻
This new becker bk 2 will be a monster just wish they included a better sheath and scales. Thats what made the bk2 so nice it was cheap it was reliable and burly.
When I need a blade for batoning I go to my tops nada. Paired with a small field knife or even my ad15 for smaller tasks. Hard to beat.
Great review. Blade thickness is so important.
It makes a huge difference in how the knife feels and performs.
I love my architect knives I have them in 3V and 1095 and Magnacut. Love the architect knives and my Esee knives and my Tops knives. Also architect knives you get a lot more for your money. I know there’s a lot of good knife companies out there. That makes great knives, but their prices for what you get way too high. By the time you add the other things I think architect is the best if you’re going get quality knives with knife sheath And carrying options and knife handles that you can pick from. Thank you! you help me make a lot of good decisions when I go to buy a knife.
I agree with your "What they should have done" Good thoughts.
Just ordered the AK 5.5 - thanks for the recommendation!
Awesome! It’s a great knife!
Thank you for the info, Aaron. It seems pricey, but I think I still want to buy one.
I totally understand. It’s a good knife. Just wish they had done some different things to make it either more desirable or a better value.
Because of cost, I'm sticking with my BK-2. A knife is only as good as the user's skill, experience, and knowledge.
I couldn't agree more!!!
Good luck with that. I paid $125. For my kbar three years ago and love it. Should last the rest of my life.
Hey there, was about to comment on a 5 year old video on the BK2 to pick you brain about what you thought about the magnacut version and saw this on the corner of my eye. Watching this, I totally agree that its a miss to still have the black (zytel I believe) plastic scales instead of something to give it more flair. The BK2 glass reinforced sheath could have also needed an upgrade for the magnacut version. I think I'll also stick to my 1095 Bk2 with the micarta scales and nylon sheath (BK22 sheath) that I bought aftermarket.
Fell in the knife rabbit hole a little while ago (expensive passion...) and I really appreciate your videos to help in making up my mind on knives I like.
Thanks for that!
60 rockwel wud still give terrific retention but a whisker safer for chipping….
If they do a bk7 im buying
I’d prefer the BK2 in 3V, but 1095 works great.
thank you for this perspective and totally agree with you. I think that if this trend keeps going with magnacut steel we will see less interest in our hobby. I for one can't afford these prices.
I’m gonna build a Time Machine and go back to the 1980’s so i’ll be cool owning 440 or 420.
Back in the day, I was an outdoorsman in Interior Alaska for several decades. My best SS knives then were all 440-C. I'd have to touch up the hunter with crock sticks and a strop, when field dressing caribou and the larger game animals. But it never took more than a few minutes away from the task at hand. ... The plethora of super steels now is just incredible. The reality is that they're just slightly different shades of gray. Everyone clamors for the latest, most expensive shade of gray.
Marksaint2936, I want to go with you so I can pick up some of the vast number and broad spectrum of knives (including pocket knives) that were still being offered in 1095.
Whether MagnaCut is suitable for these thick knives or not.
Living in an area with long periods of high humidity and close proximity to the sea, I personally am pleased that it is made from corrosion-resistant steel.
The actual price is around $250, but this is a matter of opinion.
As for the handle and sheath (as has been said before), I completely agree.
Incidentally, the Exclusive sold BK-72 (S35VN, Mycarta handle and Kydex sheath) was actually sold for around $260.
There was also a DLC version, but both appear to have been discontinued now.
I'd like to see the Bk 16 and 17 in Magnacut.
They offer it on their site for $275 with blue denim micarta
Completely agree with this review. Cost and scales are the issues. Would buy a Reiff or Architect first.
Totally, the cost is too much for what you get.
MagnaCut, is a flash in the pan. It will fade away in a year or two. Since I cant afford anything in MagnaCut, I will never have anything. I do have the BK 16, and it is a very good knife.
My same thoughts. I'm seeing people re-purchasing the same knives they already have in good steels for Magnacut versions. I'm going to die laughing as soon as the next magical pixie dust steel comes out 😁😁😁
@@mistersmith3986 I have knives made from 425HC Stainless steel, Buck knives from the 80's, to my collection of Khukuri's that are made from 5160 truck leaf springs. I have swords made from 1055 Medium Carbon. And they are all great blades. Sharpen easy and hold a good edge. So yeah, Magnacut, I just wonder how long it will last. Oh, FYI, I've been collecting knives since the late 70's.
Amen!!!! Agree on all.
What kydex sheath do you recommend best for the BK2 ?
Toor Raven on sale at Blade HQ for $199 in 3V......forget the becker lol
I see what you did there, you made a video about the Ka-Bar BK2 in Magnacut, without actually having the knife for testing. :) Well played!!😁👍
Also, the classic BK2 is such a good knife that you don't get much improvement by getting an upgraded version for 300 bucks more.
The BK2 , i have one ,, is an oddity any hard chores, a longer knife can do better, and smaller cutting tasks a lighter thinner knife can do better
What about a dynamic duo the Becker BK2 paired up with a mora?
Agree with you on the upgrade. The fun part of getting my BK2 (and Bk7 and Bk9) was tricking out the scales and sheaths. At $350 +/- that’s just not something I’m going to do. Also, frankly, I’m not sure I’ll see the difference between the steel variants. I don’t get out as much on the trail as much, and so am not going to push any of my blades past their limits.
I have a couple of Bk's but they always felt like I was holding a brick in my medium hands so they haven't seen much use.. Never tried alternate scales though. I have a couple of magnacut blades so far, all smaller edc style blades, and love the steel. I'd go with the AK over the Bk from what I've seen.
I would go for a BK2 uncoated, 5/32, 3v, and with a kydex sheath. It would be much better imho.
Totally!
Bk 72 is the Bk 2 in Cpm 3v! By knive and tools! I love it!
Not really on the magnacut train. I don't have one so this is all anecdotal, but CPM3V and CPM S35VN are still my favorites. i can get the cold steel rk in 3v or the sog pillar for $99 shipped.
Am i definitely want that heavy-duty knife that will be my next purchase of things I want in my list lol😅 good luck me finding one for a good price if not al look for a similar type knife..
Great vid Aaron. Man there is truly no such thing as a perfect knife. I just got the Rokka Knife that you reviewed a couple years ago and it’s so good at everything including food prep but they should have lowered the Rockwell because just battening some hard wood today made small chips in the edge. If they ever upgrade the steel or lower Rockwell then I will buy it again so quick. It would also be nice in 5-6 inches to span the bigger wood pieces
How does this compare to the lion steel T5? Just wanted to fit eventually which one would you purchase first
Lionsteel T5 all day long one of the best all around blades on the market in my opinion!
Cool to see Becker getting into the game. I do prefer the Esee 5, but say a 7/32nds thick, Micarta, Kydex 3V blade, I’d play with the BK2...
Totally! A 3V BK2 with those specs would be a beast!
I agree.
Great video, and I agree with you. Becker is a bit late to this game for me. I already own multiple knives of theirs in 1095. Additionally, I have already purchased several different knives in Magnacut. At this stage I simply don't need another. Finally, in fairness to Becker...I would have probably have purchased this knife instead of the 1095 version if it were available at the very same time.
Brother...Bk2 was put out there for us working boys with bills, to have a blade we could count on out in the bush...no disrespect, " stupid simple, simple stupid "....all that money for a wee bit extra blade retention... HELL NO... stick with the old boy...never let me down and easy to sharpen on the fly....great breakdown, brilliant video as always....cheers...👍👍👍🏴🏴🏴🍺🍺🍺
I completely get what you're saying here, but for someone that lives in a very moist climate, I would submit to you that the KABAR Becker line - and even the BK2 - would appeal to me in a stainless steel blade. So, Magnacut Steel is like gold here because of it's ability to withstand corrosion. Personally, I love Magnacut which is very useful for purposes, but it's very expensive, so from that standpoint, you're absolutely right.
Still, there have been many times when I've been on camping/catfishing trips during the summer, and we stay up all night fishing, and when we get back we are so exhausted from the trip that our equipment has to be able to withstand moisture which it will undoubtedly be exposed to for extended amounts of time. I just don't have the energy to provide the maintenance these knives require being exposed to the moisture here. Indeed, I woke up the next day from one such trip to find my beloved BK2 covered in rust from just an overnight trip, and we use the BK2s to process fire wood, heavier tasks associated with camping.
We obviously don't cut bait with a BK2 or anything like that, but I would be willing to pay twice what a BK2 goes for if it was in a quality steel like S35VN. ESEE has done some of their smaller knives in S35VN, and I love them. I own the ESEE 3, ESEE 4 and ESEE Izula in S35VN steel, but I would like to see a BK2 or ESEE 6 in a quality stainless steel. Just my opinion... really enjoy your videos as always.
Wanted one until I learned its windowed under the scales. I dont care that its more fancy and costly to manufacture, I want the certainty.
Just got a white river magnacut, Its great but it's a luxury as i wanted to see what the hype was about. But my fallnkiven still cant be beat
They should have made a larger release of the Knives and Tools s35vn version
I love my Korean War relic Kabar, just the way it is. A perfect fighter and all-around camp knife, for not much moola. For someone in harm's way, the best carry is on the hip opposite where their pistol is, sharp edge forward. During condition red, the scabbard strap should be unstrapped. If the occasion arises to draw the knife in defense, your off hand is instantly raised, chest high, point down, sharp edge out and ready to strike defensively to the rear or to parry a blow from the front.
G'day Aaron, I can only imagine what the BKs 7 and 9 would go for ; )
Mind you I'm quite happy with 1095 Cro Van on the 9. Same with the sheath and scales, (in fairness those may change). It mostly gets used as a froe or chopper and I pair it with something smaller with more finesse for "knifey" tasks, so the 2 doesn't really suit my MO to start with.
For those that love it; concur; for that moolah, yes needs the extras to sweeten the deal. Or alternatively, yep 3V for sure, good call mate.
I do think a thinner stock version, (perhaps with other bells and whistles), would change it enough to warrant a new model number. i.e. It wouldn't be the same animal anymore ; )
With all the Magnacut that's already appeared and indeed into the future, you'd think the prices will come down, or at least stabalise. At this point, whilst its very good by all accounts, not sure it offers a significant "enough" benefit for the dough, over what I/we already have. Cheers Duke.
As much as i am twmpted by this upgrade my bk2 has been with me years and pulled more than its weight. Not sure i could replace it.
Most sites seem to have it at $250. Still pricey but much better than $350.
Yeah, that's a little better, but still expensive for a BK2 when you have to factor and handle scales and sheath upgrades.
I know I'm old school and that is okay. The reason I like KaBar and Esee (and Ontario before they closed) is precisely BECAUSE they use 1095 which remains my favorite knife steel. I also like many of the other 10xx steels. I do own knives in other steels but I do not believe that 1095 is outdated, outclassed or outdone. I don't care about Magnacut this or CPM that. I like that 1095 is fairly easy to sharpen to a ridiculously sharp edge, will hold the edge well (especially if you convex the edge), is tough and won't usually break the bank.
I will add to your idea about what KaBar should have done for their 'premium' version and also say that they should have offered 'special edition' 1095 versions with an upgraded sheath and an exclusive Micarta handle scale pattern (maybe a different pattern than the premium version) and priced it accordingly.
For me, though, although I really like my BK2 (and Esee 5), one thing that doesn't make sense, to me, is why they would make a quarter inch thick blade only 5 inches long. I mean, if its claim to fame is as a chopper/batoner then wouldn't it make more sense to give it, say, a 6.5 inch blade so it could span just a little more or chop just a little better? So I think that is the special release they should do -the Becker BK 5XL (or something). In 1095.
I think the existence of the demko freereign in magnacut really undercuts this one
you do overall get more steel in the bk 2
the rubber vs slab handles is up to personal preference but at the price the bk2 should've upgraded the handles and sheath like they did for the European s35vn version they did.
the demko is not always available but the option from architect you gave also seems good especially if you want slab handles instead of rubber or get a reiff (pricier than the AK and the demko for sure but hey you get that warranty) . Honestly in the 4-5in blade range a lot of manufacturers are working with magnacut so you'd get the bk2 for the handleheld splitting maul factor in which case you're not considering these thinner knives lol
Question, can Magnacut be sharpened in the field?
Yes with a good diamond stone
If TOPS makes a Silent Hero 4 ,Idaho Hunter or Pasayten Lite Traveler in 3v or Magnacut id consider a possible upgrade of one of those knives. I don’t feel a Magnacut upgrade on any knife right now justifies the price increase over the actual usability , the cost benefit ratio is NOT high enough for the expense, it is the Carbon Fibre of knife steels. I’ll still ultimately take a properly heat treated 1095 with cerakote and Micarta first. Maybe its a good option for saltwater coastal environments ultimately.
Just my two cents.🤘
$350? Absolutely, no.
They need to actually upgrade their handles that would be a lot better than those cheap ass plastic ones.
Agreed!
I was excited to see this for the BK2… but, In all honesty agree with your point- kinda lazy- quote un quote- on K-Bars part that they just didn’t up the scales a tad and that damm SHEATH… a nice kydex with Blade tech attached would have rushed me to pull the trigger. Now…. I’m holding off. Thx again for a great review. Spot on!
Hey Gideon thanks for all the amazing content. I have wanted to buy a BK2 for a while now and I was considering it for Christmas, and I got excited for the magna cut version, but i agree its to over priced. Just wanted to ask you and your audience. What you think of the BK72. Its a BK2 in CPM S35VN with micarta handles, which was an exclusive between K-Bar and Knives and Tools in Europe. Seems to have stopped production you can still get all the details if your google it. Cost was $309 or 355 depending on the version.
I would be more interested in a 3V version for the a BK2... personally. Yes, we agree on that.
However, I think going from .25 to .20 in width would be better... I think you would still have the essence of this knife preserved and improve versatility.
The 52100 [1095 CroVan] steel in the regular BK2 is plenty good for this kind of knife, though. IMHO...
I have wailed on my BK2 for a few years now. I love the BK2 knife. A firewood processing champ. Chopping is good to. You can move your grip down, where your pinky is on the bottom (3 finger grip style but the pinky is still envolved) and get another almost two inches of length... and swing with abandon with little concern of it coming out of your hand..
KaBar seriously needs to up their sheath game, big-time. And, micarta handles, please. If they used 20% less steel with a .20 width... the price of adding those would be negligible, I would think.
Peace...
The bk2 doesn't need magnacut.....this is just a money grab.
A BK72 is the BK2 made with S35vn
I agree ,should be cheaper ,same.handle ,etc !
I totally concur!
What’s the one knife are you taking into the apocalypse?
Dang, that’s a hard one!
Okay a few ! :)
Got mine for 250$ plus a free civivi flipper so around 180$ for the bk82 if you factor in the free knife. I like it feels comfortable but I agree for that price better scales and a better sheath would've been more appropriate for the given price. I do forsee the price dropping when magnacut becomes more common and the market answering back. I also agree the architect knives are a killer deal.
I think 3v would be too much of an overkill for a 1/4 inch thick knife lol, it really doesn't need that much toughness, magnacut is definitely a much better option and corrosion resistance is a bonus, but I agree they should've made g10/micarta scales and a kydex sheath. Also, about a cheaper alternative, I run Eafengrow EF-142, got it on sale for 48$. DC-53 steel, g10 handles, perfect kydex sheath. It is made in china but the value is insane, would love to see your review.
Bro, I agree CPM 3v
I agree with you, the BK 2 is an excellent knife, and the phrase applies if something works, don't fix it. The price is not justified, it is still an excellent knife, but I'll stick with the BK2.
They should have given you the micarta handles at that price
I’ve broken two Bk-2s I need the Magnacut version. Australian wood is not friendly
I found it for 240$
Still a little expensive, but it's buyable at that price. Don't tell anyone until Friday, after i buy one 😂
1. excellent presentation.
2. the skill is in the person, not the tool, of course.
3. I probably own every knife in the Becker line. I won't say that one is "better" than the rest. Such is subjective.
4. Ok. I have been to exotic locations in the world such as Pakistan, the Hilltribes, South America, Pakistan, Iran . . . and never had to split a log or shave hair on my arm. . . . the usual tests for survival knife. I know how to sharpen knives and change cutting edges.
5. If I were 20 years old and not 80 years old and I truly believed that a knife company would exist forever, I would be concerned about a knife having a warranty. However, my Ek knives were made by the original company that is out business. Hey. I had lifetime brakes and that brake shop folded over a decade ago..
6. If you want a top steel blade, go for it.
7. I absolutely agree with you on the sheath. I have the Spartan Blades fixed blade knife you reviewed months ago . . . the best sheath on the market. The other shtf fixed blades at the computer are an Al Mar, a Kizlyar Supreme (from the Russian Federation), a Sog Government 13 and the current issue military knife of Estonia and Finland (a Pukko type knife on steroids).