Good variety with Ducati 848, Hayabusa, Yamaha V-Max and all manner of bikes. Honda MC22 CBR250RR medium group session 2 Hampton Downs 12-1-2013 #MC22 #CBR250RR
@@bopcph i said touring bike, not ocean liner. seriously though the busa is not and never was built for circuit stuff. its a sports tourer. more sporty than a goldwing certainly, but a CBR600RR (probably even an F) on circuit will eat one alive, etc.
@@JethroRose If you just search here on YT for anything "busa" you will find 99% of the videos associating "busa" with 200+mph and/or sport if not racing and I don't think any in the last 1% will associate busa with touring. And just to cap this, just go to Suzuki's own website www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles.aspx and see what category they themself place their busa in !? - Sport !!!! I even think you will be just as crouched on a busa as on a 250RR - it is certainly not as comfortable as my VFR750F ('90) - I've tried and I didn't liked it :o/ I wouldn't call a busa anything like a tourer - it is a sport bike but its a drag-sport or highway-sport bike. On most "trackday-tracks", Hampton Downs too, a well setup "Any"600cc/100+HP will have the upper hand :-) Btw, I wouldn't challenge this 250RR on my VFR750F (full Showa "R" suspension) before I had at least 10 hours of practice on the track ;-)
Bo Petersen mate. I don’t need to watch TH-cam videos to be told what they are. I ride sports bikes, do track days, and have mates with Busas. in real life. They are heavy, long and set up for high speed stability. Not flicking from side to side on track. Not carrying huge lean angle for high corner speed. They are a sports tourer. Suzuki sell them as a sports tourer. They have sports tourer ride position. Yes they are fast in a straight line. That does not make them a proper sports bike. Also I have 2 of these (MC22) in my garage. Alongside a CBR600RR, CBR1000RR and an RGV250
They really aren't that efficient, but they are a whole lot of fun! Here is a link to my MC19's fuel log. That is me trying for fuel economy too. I do much better with my SV650SF. www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/honda/cbr250r/1988/daschicken/366541 @@arammendoza6822
@@JethroRose What the hell is an RGV? I rode the living fuck outta my CBR 900RR and got 7l/100km. Highway 2+2/2+1 cruising at 180-200 kph with lots of twisted overtakes.
Looks like so much fun . I love seeing different styles and capacities on the track days . There was a dude on a Berg going hard at the start and later on a VMAX . Good on them for choosing the track to see what they can do .
That looks like an awesome track day, nice mix of bikes large and small & even a supermoto thrown in. I'd love a go but for some reason I can only corner hard off road, and I wimp out on tarmac if I can see a cloud.
I saw this video about a year or more ago. I just searched for it because its an amazing video. Proof that a 600cc, 1000cc or 1300cc doesnt make a bike better.
Top stuff. I knew those bikes were really good but in yr hands they are a weapon.Great to watch.You've inspired me to get one and give it a go.Cheers from nz
+Brenden Berry agree cbr 250rr is very good bike on twiestes tires 110-140 24degress head angle wheeelsbase 135 cm 160 kg full tank good brake and relatuively goood suspension only one think could be better seat high higher from 73 cm up to 80 cm and also footpeg higher which give you more place on slik tires to lean angle ,i like to see like powerfull hayabusa and yamaha vamx dont have Chance on corner excelelent view to see speed difrents in corner ;)
I had one 20 years ago and smoked a GSXR-750 around a corner on a Sunday ride, I took the corner at 170kph. I had a MC-17 CBR250RR, twin disc brakes, red, white and blue, 4 cylinder, revved to 18,000 rpm. It was really reliable I had it for 3 years and never did an oil or filter change, sold it for $1200 in the end. Luckily they still sell them here in New Zealand.
Great video/riding, quite impressive how well it can actually keep up with the Busa on the straight parts of the track (even though they don't seem that long). Would love to get an MC22 myself but they are damn near impossible to find in The Netherlands, or basically in all of Mainland Europe for that matter :(
beunhaas102 Love being Australian. Can go out and get a 250RR, a zx2r, a GSXR 250, a GSX250F, an FZR250, and a ZXR250 whenever i want. BTW, the ZXR was widely grey imported to Europe, so it might be your best bet if you want a small, high revving inline 4....and i think the 250 gixxette was widely grey imported as well.
TheSpyChecker Thanks for the tip, but I just found and bought an CBR250RR (MC22) in Hungary, got the Dutch registration in the mail last week. Just got to give it some more TLC and it will be ready for the road!
I have this bike you can get them on the corners no trouble but they get you back on the straights but only because their bikes are 3 to 4 times the cc rating!! Ha love it!!
very impressive bike, do you thingh a smaller displacement engine makes you choose better lines, looks like you take those corners very nicely... ive been keen on geting this bike for track, not because of the power only, but handling power and weight combination, i think it will breed a better rider, love the vid, thanks
Having less power does mean you scrounge for faster lap times through better lines, braking and corner speed as there's no big power crutch to lean on. A lower powered bike is the best way to boost your skills in those areas as it's far more forgiving on throttle control. It won't bite you as bad compared to making a mistake at 200+kph People on bigger bikes often sorely stunt their confidence by too many high speed scares, stepping out the rear under power etc, whereas a smaller bike just allows your confidence to keep skyrocketing.
I would like to buy this motorcycle, but they are not available in Serbia. Where can I buy it and transport it to Serbia? Until a few months ago, I had a Honda CBR 600 F2, a really powerful engine. But I want to buy a CBR 250 now because the F2 revs up to 14,000 and this little 250cc rocket revs up to 20,000.
I just landed one in the US this past week. I'm getting it in a couple days. Do they let these compete in the 250/300 classes in NZ? I feel like they'd be a ringer here in the US since they make more power and are lighter than the current single and twin 250's.
Nice. Rules on cyl count exclude these from 250/300 racing here. Otherwise they'd definitely dominate. There are classes they can compete, but those class rules are usually for significantly larger displacement machines where these cannot be competitive.
@@SportbikerNZ Makes sense. There's probably only a handful here in the States and most of the ones I see are collector's items. Maybe I can sneak into a club race.
I have found most racing classes in the US prohibit more then two cylinder 250s in the 250 classes. Thr closest rule set I could find was 400 Open as part of the vintage motorcycle racing association. 400 open allows for up to 250cc two stroke or 400cc four stroke up to 4 cylinders for bikes manufactured between 1990 and 1998. That being said as a new owner of two MC22s in the states, I would love to have a class in which these would be competitive. I can't really see them being competitive with a Rvf400R which has 20+ HP on thr MC22 but interestingly, the 250RR makes about the same amount of power as the CBR400RR of the same time period.
They're expensive to make. The market disappeared when the learner riders rules changed from a 250cc cap to a power to weight cap. A 2cyl 400 can make an equal amount of power for 1/3rd the price of a 4cyl 250.
@@youtubehooked7170 Kawasaki can only sell their zx25r in countries that artificially create the market by heavily taxing anything over 250cc. The zx25r price in a free market is nearly as much as a 600cc bike, so not economical.
@@SportbikerNZ wow! Ive never knew bout that before. Still plenty of people miss the screamer 4cyl 250s and they are to willing to pay more just to get a kind of bike that suits for begginers. Here in philippines im starting to see a plenty of these bike in streets, and Ive also seen a yt reviews.
I bought an MC22 a couple of years ago on the basis of this video and th-cam.com/video/h6nPfzd2i0M/w-d-xo.html as well. I still have it. I have since had and traded in a Triumph Daytona 675R (too uncomfortable) and now have a Tiger 800. I have kept the MC22. The only thing I would consider letting it go for is a 900RR of the same era. Have you ever ridden an early 900RR, and what do you reckon?
Nice. I also still have my MC22. I haven't ridden, and have no knowledge of the 900RR. I like the styling of the first version with the round headlights though.
Do not let the MC22 go. They’re super rare. A lot of young inexperienced riders bought them back in the day because of the low displacement but didn’t realise how meaty they can be and thus a lot of them have been smashed up over the years. Also, with modern day bikes, it’s a sound you just can’t really buy anymore. Not without spending the seriously big money and by the time you get the sound coming out the pipes, you’re getting arrested for speeding. On the MC22, you can get that glorious sound and still be under the limit. Hold on to that thing for deal life my man.
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I can see most of them thinking "I hope that's a 600 passing me..."
Wish I hadn't sold mine now.
Hayabusa getting passed multiple times by tiny 250 .... Imagine pressure on busa rider !! I would have been mortified :D :D
to be fair, busas are more of a touring bike :D
@@JethroRose If thats a fact, why didn't he just buy a Gold Wing - he undoubtedly would feel more comfortable - both being passed and touring ;-D
@@bopcph i said touring bike, not ocean liner. seriously though the busa is not and never was built for circuit stuff. its a sports tourer. more sporty than a goldwing certainly, but a CBR600RR (probably even an F) on circuit will eat one alive, etc.
@@JethroRose If you just search here on YT for anything "busa" you will find 99% of the videos associating "busa" with 200+mph and/or sport if not racing and I don't think any in the last 1% will associate busa with touring. And just to cap this, just go to Suzuki's own website www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles.aspx and see what category they themself place their busa in !? - Sport !!!! I even think you will be just as crouched on a busa as on a 250RR - it is certainly not as comfortable as my VFR750F ('90) - I've tried and I didn't liked it :o/
I wouldn't call a busa anything like a tourer - it is a sport bike but its a drag-sport or highway-sport bike.
On most "trackday-tracks", Hampton Downs too, a well setup "Any"600cc/100+HP will have the upper hand :-)
Btw, I wouldn't challenge this 250RR on my VFR750F (full Showa "R" suspension) before I had at least 10 hours of practice on the track ;-)
Bo Petersen mate. I don’t need to watch TH-cam videos to be told what they are. I ride sports bikes, do track days, and have mates with Busas. in real life. They are heavy, long and set up for high speed stability. Not flicking from side to side on track. Not carrying huge lean angle for high corner speed.
They are a sports tourer. Suzuki sell them as a sports tourer. They have sports tourer ride position.
Yes they are fast in a straight line. That does not make them a proper sports bike.
Also
I have 2 of these (MC22) in my garage. Alongside a CBR600RR, CBR1000RR and an RGV250
Gawd I love small displacement multicylinders.
Lovely gnarly gas savers 💙👍
They really aren't that efficient, but they are a whole lot of fun! Here is a link to my MC19's fuel log. That is me trying for fuel economy too. I do much better with my SV650SF.
www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/honda/cbr250r/1988/daschicken/366541
@@arammendoza6822
@@Daschickenify compared to my RGV (i have both in the garage along with 600/1000) they're way better. I get about 10L/100km out of the RGV
I coulda swore it was a single cylinder
@@JethroRose What the hell is an RGV? I rode the living fuck outta my CBR 900RR and got 7l/100km. Highway 2+2/2+1 cruising at 180-200 kph with lots of twisted overtakes.
Hail to the king.. Great driving awesome bike. I want to get one and import it to the US.
Looks like so much fun . I love seeing different styles and capacities on the track days . There was a dude on a Berg going hard at the start and later on a VMAX . Good on them for choosing the track to see what they can do .
That looks like an awesome track day, nice mix of bikes large and small & even a supermoto thrown in. I'd love a go but for some reason I can only corner hard off road, and I wimp out on tarmac if I can see a cloud.
I’m a wimp all the time! I’m a real laid back rider after that crash…
I saw this video about a year or more ago. I just searched for it because its an amazing video. Proof that a 600cc, 1000cc or 1300cc doesnt make a bike better.
Not better, but faster. Faster does not necessarily equal more fun, though.
Top stuff. I knew those bikes were really good but in yr hands they are a weapon.Great to watch.You've inspired me to get one and give it a go.Cheers from nz
Brenden Berry Good to hear. These bikes are truly excellent machines and there is huge fun to be had riding them.
+Brenden Berry agree cbr 250rr is very good bike on twiestes tires 110-140 24degress head angle wheeelsbase 135 cm 160 kg full tank good brake and relatuively goood suspension only one think could be better seat high higher from 73 cm up to 80 cm and also footpeg higher which give you more place on slik tires to lean angle ,i like to see like powerfull hayabusa and yamaha vamx dont have Chance on corner excelelent view to see speed difrents in corner ;)
+marcin l 5:00 min i love to sseee like vmax dont chave Chance on corner this video is one of me favorit and good ride offcorse rider .
@@SportbikerNZ you have been dominating the track! Awewsome! haha how the "fat bikes" havent had any chance to stay anywhere close to you on track!
@@SportbikerNZ I just picked up a genuine all OEM with 15000kms still got the original tyres to. Problem is all the petrol has turned to goo
Such An Engine ! Fantastic
"Having fun beating on it safely."
-at the track
"Having fun without breaking the speed limit"
-at public roads
Its the rider and the ride.
I had one 20 years ago and smoked a GSXR-750 around a corner on a Sunday ride, I took the corner at 170kph. I had a MC-17 CBR250RR, twin disc brakes, red, white and blue, 4 cylinder, revved to 18,000 rpm. It was really reliable I had it for 3 years and never did an oil or filter change, sold it for $1200 in the end. Luckily they still sell them here in New Zealand.
3 years and never changed the oil or filter...i hope you told that to the guy who bought it
This bike just screammmmms. I love it. This video makes me want one.
The best thing about this bike?
It's a 250!
The worst thing about this bike?
It's a 250...
Jαѕσи Tσdd the best thing about this bike is the fact that it's a inline 4
Best is about the best noise of any engine produced...
Hahahaha
@@robertmcfadyen9156 No idea, is that also an I4? Know those Kawasaki 250's also sounded sweet with a similar 20k redline.
Lol that hayabusa
Great video/riding, quite impressive how well it can actually keep up with the Busa on the straight parts of the track (even though they don't seem that long).
Would love to get an MC22 myself but they are damn near impossible to find in The Netherlands, or basically in all of Mainland Europe for that matter :(
beunhaas102 Love being Australian. Can go out and get a 250RR, a zx2r, a GSXR 250, a GSX250F, an FZR250, and a ZXR250 whenever i want.
BTW, the ZXR was widely grey imported to Europe, so it might be your best bet if you want a small, high revving inline 4....and i think the 250 gixxette was widely grey imported as well.
TheSpyChecker Thanks for the tip, but I just found and bought an CBR250RR (MC22) in Hungary, got the Dutch registration in the mail last week. Just got to give it some more TLC and it will be ready for the road!
Woo :D grats man, you'll love it! :)
I have this bike you can get them on the corners no trouble but they get you back on the straights but only because their bikes are 3 to 4 times the cc rating!! Ha love it!!
Great riding!
The BP on some of these riders is pretty funny to watch. Good for them for at least getting out there and trying, though.
very impressive bike, do you thingh a smaller displacement engine makes you choose better lines, looks like you take those corners very nicely... ive been keen on geting this bike for track, not because of the power only, but handling power and weight combination, i think it will breed a better rider, love the vid, thanks
Having less power does mean you scrounge for faster lap times through better lines, braking and corner speed as there's no big power crutch to lean on. A lower powered bike is the best way to boost your skills in those areas as it's far more forgiving on throttle control. It won't bite you as bad compared to making a mistake at 200+kph
People on bigger bikes often sorely stunt their confidence by too many high speed scares, stepping out the rear under power etc, whereas a smaller bike just allows your confidence to keep skyrocketing.
@@SportbikerNZ thanks for reply, ive been thinking id like to try track riding, your video is awsome,
That's neat, the Yamaha Vmaxx absolutely leaves it at the speed of light at the 5:10 time stamp.
Great bikes!! I have 2 ... 😎👍🏼
For you 250 lovers this has all to do with rider skills not bike guy on the 250 was the best rider in this vid guarantee
That passion though😍
Pure dominance.
Hail to the king.
I want it I want it I want it!!!!
I think this video broke the speakers on my phone.
A 1000cc is a sledge hammer
A 250cc is a scalpel
A 250cc two stroke GP bike is a Jedi lightsaber 😂
Excellent, hayabusa wanted your number?
I never knew you can track a supermoto
hayabusa getting passed by a mc22 is bad enough for the hayabusa, but getting passed by a supermoto, just give up mate haha
I would like to buy this motorcycle, but they are not available in Serbia. Where can I buy it and transport it to Serbia?
Until a few months ago, I had a Honda CBR 600 F2, a really powerful engine. But I want to buy a CBR 250 now because the F2 revs up to 14,000 and this little 250cc rocket revs up to 20,000.
👍👍👍
Maybe one tooth less on the axle sprocket ? Would get you the 19 plus in 6th
haha, yeah looked like it. He wasn't going to disappear without a tussle.
Mines called rhondar
Really would like to buy one of these, but I am afraid that I might be too tall. What is your height?
176cm
7:40
I CAME _EVERYWHERE_
I just landed one in the US this past week. I'm getting it in a couple days. Do they let these compete in the 250/300 classes in NZ? I feel like they'd be a ringer here in the US since they make more power and are lighter than the current single and twin 250's.
Nice.
Rules on cyl count exclude these from 250/300 racing here. Otherwise they'd definitely dominate. There are classes they can compete, but those class rules are usually for significantly larger displacement machines where these cannot be competitive.
@@SportbikerNZ Makes sense. There's probably only a handful here in the States and most of the ones I see are collector's items. Maybe I can sneak into a club race.
Race these vs. Single cylinder Kle 600s or something. Would be fun.
I have found most racing classes in the US prohibit more then two cylinder 250s in the 250 classes. Thr closest rule set I could find was 400 Open as part of the vintage motorcycle racing association. 400 open allows for up to 250cc two stroke or 400cc four stroke up to 4 cylinders for bikes manufactured between 1990 and 1998.
That being said as a new owner of two MC22s in the states, I would love to have a class in which these would be competitive. I can't really see them being competitive with a Rvf400R which has 20+ HP on thr MC22 but interestingly, the 250RR makes about the same amount of power as the CBR400RR of the same time period.
Just wondering what basic mods were done to the mc22. Muffler? jetting etc? Cheers
Just a 4-2-1 exhaust and slip on muffler which were on the bike when I bought it.
what tyres you used?
They are discontinued now, but they were Michelin pilot power road sports
Why did they stop making those bikes?
They're expensive to make. The market disappeared when the learner riders rules changed from a 250cc cap to a power to weight cap.
A 2cyl 400 can make an equal amount of power for 1/3rd the price of a 4cyl 250.
@@SportbikerNZ Appreciate that!
Hope they bring them back again as kawasaki already did.
@@youtubehooked7170 Kawasaki can only sell their zx25r in countries that artificially create the market by heavily taxing anything over 250cc.
The zx25r price in a free market is nearly as much as a 600cc bike, so not economical.
@@SportbikerNZ wow! Ive never knew bout that before.
Still plenty of people miss the screamer 4cyl 250s and they are to willing to pay more just to get a kind of bike that suits for begginers. Here in philippines im starting to see a plenty of these bike in streets, and Ive also seen a yt reviews.
me granny can drive a hayabusa on the straights.
I bought an MC22 a couple of years ago on the basis of this video and th-cam.com/video/h6nPfzd2i0M/w-d-xo.html as well. I still have it. I have since had and traded in a Triumph Daytona 675R (too uncomfortable) and now have a Tiger 800. I have kept the MC22. The only thing I would consider letting it go for is a 900RR of the same era. Have you ever ridden an early 900RR, and what do you reckon?
Nice. I also still have my MC22. I haven't ridden, and have no knowledge of the 900RR. I like the styling of the first version with the round headlights though.
Do not let the MC22 go. They’re super rare. A lot of young inexperienced riders bought them back in the day because of the low displacement but didn’t realise how meaty they can be and thus a lot of them have been smashed up over the years. Also, with modern day bikes, it’s a sound you just can’t really buy anymore. Not without spending the seriously big money and by the time you get the sound coming out the pipes, you’re getting arrested for speeding. On the MC22, you can get that glorious sound and still be under the limit. Hold on to that thing for deal life my man.
Wow who needs a super bike if you can ride like that