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Lyn's voice isn't Ghast??? Eliwood's voice isn't Ghast??? A FE WORLD WHERE GHAST ISNT THE ONLY VOICE ACTOR IS A SAD WORLD INDEED Jk, the voice actors we're great!
WHAT an absolute pleasure and privilege it was to be able to voice Lyn in this! FE7 was the very first video game I picked up as a wee bab and it introduced me to the franchise I'm still obsessed with it to this day (seriously I share a YT channel -- Fishy Emblem -- *solely* dedicated to FE). Regardless how much heat Lyn gets, I will always be a fan of hers. Call it blinded by nostalgia if you want but somehow, unconsciously and unconditionally, child me fell in love with her story. And this Support Science only further reinforces that notion for the me that is now growing into adulthood. Recording the Lyn & Wallace scenes in particular were experiences I'll remember always as an amateur VA. Thank you to any and all who watched to the very end! AND THANK YOU GHAST & CAST! For the opportunity, the recording sessions filled with many bloopers, and the tenacity to put together such a beast of a video. I've been watching Ghast for years now and the progress he makes with each sequential video is stunning. The time, energy and love everyone has poured into this is immensely appreciated! Well done, all! ✨
if Wallace wasn't bluffing about obliterating the bandits, he lugged his armored ass up into the mountains and took out the whole camp by himself. Absolute chad
This was absolutely amazing. Tear-jerker. So happy you talked about her self-confidence and how she easily judged others. How Hector and Lyndis reflect on each other. My favorite support science 2nd to Gerik's support science. Thank you for this
Lyn is actually my summoner support because I went to the trouble of getting her A supports in FE7 and saw her as a fantastic character. I always chose to pair her up with Hector since both attains emotional maturity because of each other.
Cheestro14 Funny things is Summer Lyn, the most fanservicy one, actually got a bust reduction seemingly. Either that or her clothes just made them look bigger.
Definitely an underrated and overlooked support there. Speaking personally I rarely ever used Wallace in most of my playthroughs of Fire Emblem, especially struggling with the map where you face Lloyd. I ended up levelling and going for Linus' map on most playthroughs after.
Call her a bad unit. Either strictly 1 or 2 ranged. But after this I don't think you can not say Lyn is a great support character for Hector, let alone a great one herself. Yeah there are FE6 continuity issues, but Lyn shows how creative the writing team was for FE7. Thanks Ghast, this was a great video, and I hope many people come to an appreciation for Lyn as a character.
Lyn was probably my first and greatest female role model in fiction. Her strength of character, kindness, and pride inspired me from the first time I saw her. Seeing her develop through the game and facing challenges to her character making her grow made me admire her all the more. From an early age I decided if I ever have a daughter I would want her to be named Lyndis in the hope those positive traits in her character can be passed on to my kin.
How. How on earth is the person who made the amazingly edited, lengthy, excellently researched, and just over all high quality video. Is the same person that made "so this is basically fe6". Regardless of the fact that the two videos are of different genres with one a comedic and quick summary and the other, well I needn't say it twice. Youve evolved so much over all these years and your hard work shines through every second of your videos, especially ones such as these. Your unique charm is also so welcoming. I severely doubt you need it, but just as a statement from a long time viewer. You should be proud of the results your hard work prospered. And you should continue to keep up the hard work, it certainly doesn't go unappreciated. Amazing job, and good luck against Mangs :)
@@Faerghast you've do amazing work with these analysis videos. Managing to make character that one may dislike not tolerable but rather interesting to learn about. I'm not a big fan of characters like Nino, nyx, and Lyn. They just didn't really click that well with me but rather just kinda hate them (not like the community helps with those perceptions haha) but your videos on them has actually helped me gain more respect for these characters I once hated. The vids arent "here are some examples on why this character is cool", it's a " Here is an in depth analysis of a characters story that you might not be familiar with" and with very little personal bias involved. They help people both veterans and new, learn something that once may have eluded them or gain a new perspective on a character they may have once set aside. And I can assure you my opinions about such are shared.
Lyn's such a strongly-crafted character, and it's so impressive given how little she gets compared to most lords. In particular, I love how much of her resolution as a character is left up to you as the player. It makes her feel connected to me *as* the player (more so than Mark does, anyway)
This video is a treasure. Absolutely fantastic. I waited for a support science on Lyn for so long, because she was branded as a character with "no personality". Videos like these completely bash these statements, as there is no character who has no personality. Beyond her simple exterior, she had some complications of adapting to a world she wasn't familiar with at all, and genuinely coming out on top. She's my favourite character because she's fun to play as, with just that bit of deepness that makes her interesting. She is not extremely deep, I know. But she makes me feel happy whenever something is resolved by her, gameplay and story wise. Ehm, sorry if it was overly sappy. That's just what I felt. Love at first crit.
@@funninoriginal6054 *Personality: A Combination Of Characteristics &/Or Qualities That Form An Individual's Distinct Character* Even Roy, Despite His Simplicity, Has A Personality... The Game Just Hates Him To The Point Of Being Someone Without Character Progression
This. This is why Lyn ties as my favorite female lord in the series, and also ties as my favorite lord overall alongside Hector. She really is a great character and I'm glad you took the time to make this video on her Ghast
Vivi 恥ずかしがりや自信がなくなった Ornitier You guys on G+ were right all along weren't you? I said back then I'd concede when I felt I was proven wrong. Well, this is me admitting defeat.
a little sad you didn't mention her support conversation with Will in which she tries to convince him to get in touch with his family and her reunion with each individual member of her band during chapter 15
9:40 Pretty much is perfect. What a lot of people don't get about Lyn is that she is just "there" after her story mode, but thats the complete opposite of the truth. Her character arc continues and is further developed after what is built and established in Lyn Mode. Glad you can really show why Lyn is such a well written character which is something people tend to miss when it comes to discourse about her.
OwinBlazer inconsequential is a poor way of putting it. Matthew contributes nothing to the plot but I’d be damned before I say he’s inconsequential because of his events.
Excellent analysis. Lyn is an amazing strong heroine in her own story because so far she's lived only in a world where she was encouraged to take pride in herself. It was her pride in herself that let her win the day, but Lycia is a whole new world where she can't always know what to expect. Eliwood accepts her because he's Eliwood, her grandfather loves her as she is, but she can never know whether other Lycian nobles will warm up to her, hate her, or condescend to her. That's an interesting point about why Lyn was alone for six months after her people died, about how she might have pushed other people away in her grief and anger. We see how kind she is to her allies during her path (she didn't even stay mad at SAIN for long when they first met) and when she's headstrong, it works to her benefit. She's never really had to THINK about having to adapt to a world where it wouldn't. She's dealing with culture shock, a new role she doesn't feel suited for, and people who challenge her long-held perceptions. I tend to favor Lyn's Sacae endings, but I warmed up to Lyn/Hector because they really do have a great dynamic and considering how unconventional Hector already is, I can't see Ostia batting an eyelash over him marrying a half-blood princess. Lyn and Wallace's support brought PERFECT closure to her desire for revenge. I like to imagine that even if you don't get their A support it still takes place post-game and she still gets that closure because she deserves it.
Okay, so. Wallace now bvecame one of my most underrated FE characters. This kinight; - Disobeyed his lord and allowed his close friends to elope while suffering for half a year as punishment for his failure. - STILL remained loyal to said country, despite his disagreement and punishment. - Joined Lyn, despite her being an "imposter" according to his lord's propaganda. - Annihilated an entire bandit tribe to prevent his friend's daughter from being overcome with rage and bloodshed. if this guy isn't one of the most inspiring characters, I don't know who is.
The story in FE7 is one of the best in the series. So much deeper than people realize, because it’s all told through text and takes time to uncover. Seriously glad this was my introduction to the series in 6th grade, and I’ve been loving FE ever since. :)
Ghast, i love your Support Sciences series. Honestly i think it´s among the best FE content on youtube. And it´s really great to see how much they improve in quality with every new release. I especially enjoyed the start, when you told us, how your perception of Lyn changed while working on this video. Adds an interesting personal note. Keep up the good work and im looking forward for the next one. And last but not least: shoutout to the amazing voiceactors ♥
Woah, what you said about the revenge plot and Wallace is really great. Thinking about it, Lyn holds a lot of similarities to Rutger. He's even from Bulgar, the town where Lyn's life takes a dramatic turn. They're both swordspeople of Sacae who lost their tribe to people from Bern, they both swore vengeance, both made it personal that it had to be them to do it, and both let it overtake their positive qualities. I don't know where to go off of that, but I think it's pretty neat.
Yes! Lyn and Hector is my favorite ship in all of Fire Emblem for these exact reasons. It’s nice to see my own thoughts so well articulated by someone else, amazing work on this video as always.
Oh boy oh boy this is going to be a long comment First thing's first - congratulations on yet another magnum opus. Both the production quality and the execution are stellar and never cease to amaze. I consider myself a great fan of Lyn's, and yet there was plenty in this video that I had never really thought about that deeply, which made the whole thing immensely enjoyable, even when I knew more or less what you were going to say. With that in mind, although I agree with most of what you said, there are a few little additions or critiques I would make, for the sake of whomsoever isn't already satisfied after watching the full video. The first point is more of a nitpick, really. Lyn isn't a princess, of any sort, and the concepts of nobility and royalty are conflated throughout the video. It's made clear that the Lycian League is a collective political entity with no royal or imperial oversight, which makes the individual Lycian nobles just that - nobles, not royals. As for what Lyn's title would actually be, if we're going by English rules she would probably be styled Viscountess Caelin, and inherit the title of Marchioness Caelin on Hausen's death. This doesn't mean anything for Lyn's character, but it's something worth bearing in mind. The second point is that you make the distinction between two paths that Lyn must choose between - that of staying in Lycia or moving to the plains, framed as the choice between her love of family and love of homeland. I would actually argue that this is a false choice, as ultimately the two are exactly the same thing. Lyn's love of the Sacaean plains is inseparable from her love of her family who lived there with her; and more importantly, the memories of her family from when her life was still normal. Her desire to return when in Caelin is, in my view, a natural extension of the fact that she still ultimately has not got over her parents' deaths and her family's abandonment; she still subconsciously views the plains as the place where her family is, especially when it becomes clear that Hausen will not be around forever. She is deeply emotionally scarred by the horrific way her family died and almost all her personal decisions in the game in some way feed back into the desire to, in some sense, resurrect her family. The supports she has and the ending she gets decides if she can finally move on by building a new family, as in the paired endings, or if she continues to live with the gnawing desire to bring back a family that she no longer has. But yeah, family is the driving theme behind all this game's characters and it's really annoying when Lyn's choice is reduced to the overwhelming desire to spend the rest of her life in a field, which some others have done. Thirdly, Wallace. Wallace is one of my favourite characters in the series and honestly the Wallace/Lyn support might be my favourite support chain in existence, between Wallace's precise and profound language, Lyn's raw emotion and the light it shines on Wallace as a person. "In clarity lies beauty" is such a wonderful way of putting it, especially when you think of how Wallace is introduced. Lyn remarks that she likes him because he's "honest", when really he is anything but - he acts as if he believes Lyn because her eyes are clear, when really it is because he recognises Madelyn's eyes, and he pretends to get lost in Bern when really he was able to track and exterminate to the last man a bandit group that Bern itself had not been able to stop in over ten years. But with that, he brings it back full circle to their first meeting. I could go on and on about Wallace but I'll stop now. On a related note, it has been observed in the past that Lyn is among the most ruthless Lords in the series - some have said most ruthless, though I question whether she is more so than Hector or Ephraim or Ike or Gaiden Alm, for example. It's an interesting contradiction that she is simultaneously very empathetic and compassionate towards those she cares for or who need her help and yet cold and dispassionate towards those she has decided are not worthy of living. She seems quite comfortable with being that way, too, so I'm not certain to what extent it is related to her childhood trauma. Fourthly, I was surprised that you did not mention the running story in Hector's support with her, where she believes he is belittling her strength, challenges him and loses, and starts learning different sword techniques that are better for fighting someone like him. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts, because there's a lot to unpack - her preoccupation with her personal strength stemming from her trauma at being unable to fight off the Taliver, her lesson in what her limits are, in how her pride stopped her from winning because she refused to even acknowledge Hector's effective class advantages, and in how her confidence is severely shaken and then restored by Hector's concern and attention to her feelings. So yeah, that's something I think tells a lot about their relationship, as well as Lyn's request that Hector hit her to make her feel better, and her offer to cry for him when she hears of Uther's death, while silently begging him not to die. Finally, and this has nothing to do with her supports, but there are sometimes comparisons made between her and Nino, in terms of how children are portrayed in FE games, which I thought were interesting in terms of her character. She and Nino are, at least in the Japanese games, similar in age - Lyn is 16 and Nino is 14 when they meet - but both behave vastly differently, to the point that the claim is made that "the characters clearly aren't the age they are stated to be", or similar. This is, I think, missing the point, or at least an interesting discussion. Lyn's and Nino's respective character designs reflect the way that they want to be perceived by the world. Lyn wants to be seen as an adult, to be seen as strong and independent, because that's how she believes she can protect the family she cares about, as part of her coping mechanism from her childhood trauma. Nino's ultimate if futile goal is to be "worthy" of her mother's love, so she presents as a model, obedient daughter, because that's what she thinks her mother and thus family wants, group of murderous assassins notwithstanding. Interestingly, when the two of them drop their masks, Lyn becomes more childish while Nino becomes more mature, in some ways, even though both have different personalities. This feeds back into what you were saying about her insecurity when she runs into conflict that her wilfulness cannot solve.
Lyn is literally called the Princess of Caelin by Ephidel. Ephidel: “…Gallantly spoken. Of course, I know who you are. Marquess Ostia’s younger brother, Lord Hector. And here we have Caelin’s beloved princess, Lady Lyndis.”
@@icelerate8141 True... but I think that's more of a colloquial choice on the part of Ephidel to be condescending (lowercase princess, rather than the style of Princess) rather than the acknowledgement of rank. In the same way that Nergal calls her "little girl from Sacae". That being said, you are correct that the use of Princess as a catch-all tends to be awkward in some systems, particularly with regards translation from other languages. Strictly speaking the title of Princess belongs only to the wife of a Prince or to the daughter of a monarch/monarch's children, but afaik some continental nobility systems don't draw that line and so all descendants are also styled princesses... it's complicated. Anyway the point I was making was that nobility =/= royalty and it's a mistake to conflate them
I guess Greil was being condescending to Elincia because he said princess in lowercase. Greil: “You say you are the princess of Crimea?” You only capitalize a word like princess when it is being said part of a name. He capitalized Lady because he called her Lady Lyndis. Not Princess Lyndis. I agree she's lower ranked compared to actual royalty but for some reason she's considered a princess. Maybe in each of the territories, the marquess is treated as a king of sorts.
i can imagine Lyn having her revenge (instead of Wallace) taking over her thought process, becoming a cold blooded killer. it coulda potentially ruin her if she had it her way; bless Wallace.
Sp0okeh Her thirst for revenge may have turned into thirst for blood by her blade. She could possibly have become another Sword Demon had Wallace not stopped her.
Lyn Alter for Heroes when? Bonus points: Unlike the cackling psycho that is young Karel or the damaged edgelord Rutger(Critger), she's just a robotic killer. A machine that destroys. And no, no guiding her back to sanity, leave the bloodthirsty psychos as that.
Again I find myself astounded. I never know what to expect from these videos but I always finish them stunned by how in depth they go, this has given me a whole new appreciation of Lyn's character. I left a similar comment on the Hector SS but everything about this video was great, the exploration, editing and voice acting were all amazing. I don't care how this comment makes me sound but good shit Ghast. Thank you and everyone else involved for making this 😊😊😊 xx
The voice acting on these are always amazing and they always seem to fit the characters perfectly. And I'm glad that now there is a video like this to show that Lyn is just as good a character as Hector or Eliwood.
Man going back into these supports, from years ago, really makes this alive and real. Maybe it's the voice acting or it's just the topic at hand. Thank you Ghast.
Lyn and Eliwood's chemistry will always be my favorite. I love the way Eliwood is willing to accept and love everything about her and goes out of his way to give her reassurance innherself.
I know that some people might not like Lyn as a unit but as a character she's amazing and is kinda underrated. Thank you Ghast, this is my second favorite Support Science after the Nyx Support.
@@doctordre005 She's a liability on Hard Mode. Promoting her instead of Eliwood will greatly affect you and your score. She doesn't even get the crit bonus of Myrmidon class.
@@doctordre005 Why waste a Heaven Seal on her if you cant get Eliwood with a mount on promotion and access to Javelins upon promotion? Lyn is locked to Swords without the crit bonus of Myrm plus locked to the crappiest weapon which is the bow. Both Eliwood and Hector have access to weapons that can work 1-2 range. Using Heavenly Seal on her after you've promoted Eliwood will tank your score. She's not worth it.
Lyn was one foot into the Dark Side, but Chad Bro (Uncle?) Wallace stepped in and brought her back to the light. I know this is a Lyn video, but this also made me a Wallace simp.
Like most here, I’m a fan of Lyn. This does kinda support my headcanon that Lyn is the Captain America/Lancelot of FE7, someone who wears their heart on their sleeve, always does the “right” thing, and their pride is both their biggest flaw and their strongest asset. Damn good stuff Ghast
My grandmother passed away on the day this video was uploaded and watching the scenes with Lyn and her grandfather was like looking into a mirror. I watched every support science and never expect one would bring me to tears. Amazing Support Science Ghast! Looking forward to the next one : , )
I'm gonna assume Lyn worked her magical know how of herbs to try and sap the poison out of system living in plains may actually grant Lyn the power of healing nature let's just say Lyn wasn't the only blessing that came back hausen that day ..... Probably if Lyn is living on the plains and some bandits may carry poison here and there she might have access to herbs and such
I'm really happy for all the Lyn fans. I hope that this either confirmed to them why they like her or added depth to her if they only liked her for nostalgic reasons. Lyn might not be close to my favorite character in the series, but this video certainly helped deepen my appreciation of her and really helped to frame her as more than just a Mary Sue in her campaign as some have claimed and a supporting character to Hector and Eliwood in the main story. Lyn is certainly more than a pretty face and deserves a heck of a lot more credit beyond being a lot of people's first Fire Emblem crush.
this. I can't stand people who only like Lyn because of "dae thighs" and don't even see her character development, like the internalized racism she must face. Hell, she's not even considered a pretty face or "traditionally beautiful" as a lady in her own game, just strong, proud, and Sacaen. Those in power see her as a mongrel. Some like Eliwood & Hector and her friends see the beauty in her.
I'd say most people is "waifu XD" cause I know a handful of people who like Lyn, but never played her game. Ghast just writes really well and presents his take on characters which may or may not be the reason why people like her.
Yo you should do someone like Joshua, or maybe Leif. Both of these characters have to rise up and take up the throne and lead their people after relatively peaceful lives.
Wow. It's like Im reading the dialogue for the first time. Voice acting just adds so much color to the story and helps me connect with the analysis. Another quality upload Ghast.
@@Yarharsuperpirate That's the problem. The only way to not make her inclusion forced is by only giving her a short cameo in a house on the Sacae route.
@@Yarharsuperpirate That's the thing though. In her pairing with Hector, she would likely go to war with him and die with him or fight in Eliwood's place if paired with him but that destroys the point of Roy leading the army. The only pairing I could see her surviving in is where she's paired with Rath and she's out doing gorilla warfare tactics with Dayan. But I know IS wouldn't like to fuck with people's pairings so I really don't know how she would fit in.
@@joey_1034 ...or she could be already dead, just her spawn (Sue, Lilina or Roy) paying respects to her mother, in Sacae with a clear sky above her resting place.
I was always a big fan of Lyn - she was the first fire emblem character I ever saw, and her tale is a sweet story in finding both herself and the grandfather she never knew. Bless you for 44 minutes Ghast.
This video was quite fantastic as I got to learn more about this great character. I did Kent x Lyn for my first completed playthrough of the game and was actually quite satisfied with that ending. Although Wallace's support has gotten me curious to do it on my next playthrough.
My first OTP was Eliwood x Ninian, then Lyn x Hector hit me in the face like freaking Armads. Lyn and Hector's banter and growth is so good. I feel like they compliment one another well. Very nice video. No matter what path Lyn chooses, she will be happy!
I do see it often that people refer to Lyn as a bland character and I wonder to myself if we played the same game. Lyn is my favorite FE character and I'm glad you made this, spotlighting the many layers that make her so great. Also glad that Wallace was brought up as he tackles the darker side to her character. It really shows how far gone she was with her revenge and illustrates what she had the potential to become. This was a great episode of Support Science, thank you ghast. The voice acting was spot on and hit all the right feels.
Loved it :) I learned alot about Lyn in this video and man I just want to hug her. Favorite female character in the series, and thanks so much for making this video Ghast!
One of my favorite videos just in general. I've watched it several times over the years. I love seeing my favorite characters dissected to this degree, it really makes me feel warranted in liking them no matter how many people call them shallow or whatever. Also, the voice acting in this video is fucking incredible, honestly. It gets me emotional; props to the people who did the VA work.
You did one hell of a job here, Ghast. Thank you so much for making these kinds of videos. Videos like these that analyze and explore the journey and development of characters are one of my greatest joys to watch. Enthralled I was when I found myself trapped in your storytelling and fulfilled I became when the story came to an end. One of these days, I hope to make videos like this one. I've always loved discovering just how people and characters tick, what motivates them to do what they do and what struggles they encounter and how they may either resolve them or flounder to do so. Please do keep on making videos like this one. I'll happily watch whomever you may cover this. Till next time!
To be honest i've always seen Wallace as meme bald averange character. Now then i must Say he s Amazing friend and guy. He let his friends escape even if his career as knight would collapse. He was activly looking for his friends murderers and kill them all alone. And at aleast he helps their (lyn parents) daugther don't be consumed by hate. What. A. Legend
Man, i barely made it through her killing Batta the Beast. but she really pushed me over the line when she killed Glass and his Peerless Swordsplay. That was too far.
Excuse any typos lol This was a really good video! She just has really good decent support all round I never did pay much attention to Lyn and Hector's interactions(save for the funny ones) but she really does go well with Hector. They way their supports just fit so well into the story is really really good. I personally like the Eliwood/Lyn pair Their supports are relatively entertaining and heartwarming as Eliwood tries to help her be proper only to tell her that lyn is good as she is I personally think their special conversation in (if they reach A rank) she returns those feelings as she goes on about how strong eliwood is and how she'd stay by his side as well (Thank you for not saying that Lyn had shitty supports with Eliwood you did them justice lol) Evern if that wasn't enough he stuck by her side He marries her regaurdless of controversy and powers through the outcry by eachothers side If they do remake fe7 I hope they give Lyn more development by merging the supports and the story like they did with Hector
Seeing another person out there that like the Eliwood/Lyn relationship, I now know that I am not alone on that ship. So thank you. Your point is well explain, I like it. So hear a 👍 for you. Again thank you.
Thank you for this video. This game holds a special place for me since it was my first FE game and Lyn will always be a special character. I was a naive young kid when I first played it but watching this video now really opened up more of her character to me and makes me appreciate the game even more.
Another awesome video. I though I had understood Lyn very well, but the parts involving Hector really made me realise that there was a whole other layer that I just wasn't seeing. Also, I can't believe you were able to convince me that Hector was a better paring for her than Rath. But I guess it's all thanks to the main story. As just supports, I like Rath's more, but the interactions with Hector in the story are very fleshed out and lowkey very multi layered. I rank this my 4th favourite Support Science so far, right below Eliwood's.
First Fire Emblem game I played. I really fell in love with her character. After the ending of the prologue I was a bit pissed to go further with Elliot. So it was nice she came back. And Lyn is at least in Easy mode a great fighter. ;) She and Hector were awesome.
Why your Support Science is something I love to watch, you go over so many aspects of the character. Especially their supports and how they affect the character in a fashion showing that each one(even if not possible in the same timeline) stay to her character. Another overlooked aspect of Lyn that is shown is how she does compliment the other lords while adding to herself. The rare but great supports and scenes where both parties grow. To an extent, I do really like how she teeters a dangerous line in her campaign without challenge. Yet time later and new setting, where her strengths become weaknesses. Rattling her, becoming part of her next chapter to rediscover both what she lost and what she'll need to grow. Thank you so much Ghast, I look forward to showing my FEH friend this. Big Lyn fan and hasn't played a main series game yet.
This video was absolutely amazing. There is so much stuff that I didn't even know about in this video, and know that gives me a greater appreciation for Lyn. Great work!
If they ever remake 6&7, I honestly hope they separate marriage options into S, purely so that we can have Lyn get married while also having the closure of Wallace A support at the same time. Wallace became one of my absolute favorite characters in the franchise because of those supports.
Wow Ghast Lyn has always been one of my favorite lords and this just clarifies my reasons why she lost her family so of course you would expect her to get revenge I feel like all her supports are amazing and for that I thank you for this
I used to be so bothered by Wallace taking Lyn's revenge for her. The Taliver Bandits seemed like another FE7 sub plot with no ending, so resolving that in a support conversation felt more than just lazy, but perhaps sabotage for Lyn's character. But I never gathered how much Wallace cared for Lord Hassar or for Lyn. Wallace is also old enough that I buy his reasoning. Meanwhile, if this revenge mission came from somebody like Rath or Kent it would be unbelievable with their low level of experience as a warrior.
I... now that you've said (er, typed) it out-loud, I find myself completely agreeing with this for some reason Hector is the kind of man to support such actions
Thank you so much for this video. Lyn has been my favorite video game character ever since I first played FE7, and this is a fantastic examination of her character. I also now understand why so many people ship her with Hector, though I'm personally more a fan of her ending up with the tactician. Also finally someone mentions one of Wallace's best supports! That dude is awesome.
Your support science videos always make me appreciate how the older FE characters have more in-depth details than how they were literally represented on the main games. I myself started playing FE when Corrin was announce for Smash bros so started playing fates and thats how I got exposed to the franchise as a whole. Then FEH came along there are so many characters I missed out that how I wish my country has major exposure to the franchise before. I never got to finish the original GBA FE because of University, but your support science has provided me enough to feel like Im actually learning the character in game as of now. So Ghast, I thank you so much for taking your time to make these types of videos to us fans be it a veteran or newcomers like me. I would start call Lyn now instead of Lady Lyndis
Lyn is still my favourite character of the whole FE series and I was really surprised how everyone thought of her as boring or bland because I've always thought of her as someone who has so much potential for character development. Lyn's story doesn't entail a grand, noble journey of defeating Nergal or a dragon like Eliwood or Hector but more of her struggles with her identity and past which is why I found it more rewarding when I finally unlocked all of her supports(except for Wallace). I actually forgot about her whole vengeance fiasco as I went through the game but damn this actually reminded me of it. After 10 YEARS!!! I'm gonna play FE7 again and try maxing out her support with Wallace this time it's gonna be a good time.
Holy crap, 44 minutes! I've been joking in a lot of conversations that even Nino has more story focus and better writing than Lyn, so this should be a good watch.
I find her more of a family woman in the sense of direct bloodine over tribal heritage. Blood is thicker after all so I think loyalty to her blood trumps the loyalty over her home at least in my playthroughs. These are also endings where I believe she stays out of her comfort zone in Sacae. This is something I see as in character for her especially with the growth we see from Eliwood and her but especially Hector and her.
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henlo ghast
henlo you COOL ghast
go have a nice day handsome
Lyn's voice isn't Ghast???
Eliwood's voice isn't Ghast???
A FE WORLD WHERE GHAST ISNT THE ONLY VOICE ACTOR IS A SAD WORLD INDEED
Jk, the voice actors we're great!
Wait, you're Canadian?
Ghast, you beautiful bastard, I love this video.
WHAT an absolute pleasure and privilege it was to be able to voice Lyn in this!
FE7 was the very first video game I picked up as a wee bab and it introduced me to the franchise I'm still obsessed with it to this day (seriously I share a YT channel -- Fishy Emblem -- *solely* dedicated to FE). Regardless how much heat Lyn gets, I will always be a fan of hers. Call it blinded by nostalgia if you want but somehow, unconsciously and unconditionally, child me fell in love with her story. And this Support Science only further reinforces that notion for the me that is now growing into adulthood. Recording the Lyn & Wallace scenes in particular were experiences I'll remember always as an amateur VA. Thank you to any and all who watched to the very end!
AND THANK YOU GHAST & CAST! For the opportunity, the recording sessions filled with many bloopers, and the tenacity to put together such a beast of a video. I've been watching Ghast for years now and the progress he makes with each sequential video is stunning. The time, energy and love everyone has poured into this is immensely appreciated! Well done, all! ✨
You did a really good job! 👍
Great job, Fish!!
you did such a nice job capturing the emotion in her voice!
Amazing job Fishy!! 💕 TYSM for asking me to join as Florina! U did amazing!!
@@N7CommanderJohnFETactician Thank you~ 🐟
if Wallace wasn't bluffing about obliterating the bandits, he lugged his armored ass up into the mountains and took out the whole camp by himself. Absolute chad
Wallace wipes out an entire Bandit tribe by himself, what a boss
Looking at wallace statwise, those must be VERY weak bandits
living dream
He limits his stats according to the enemies he faces.
He wields infinite power
Yet He STILL Manages To Be A Terrible Late Game Unit
Wallace used up all his Mangs power to beat the bandits, that's why he ends up a subpar unit by the time the gang reaches Ilia.
God I love the voice acting in these.
Lyn's voice actor deserves some love for the amount of emotion put into some of this lmao
I know right ?! She almost brought me to tears ! That voice acting was mad good !!!
I wish it was a series for the whole game
Really makes me want a remake in the style of Echoes.
You should've been Wallace
This was absolutely amazing. Tear-jerker. So happy you talked about her self-confidence and how she easily judged others. How Hector and Lyndis reflect on each other. My favorite support science 2nd to Gerik's support science. Thank you for this
I totally cried at the end when Lyn's Desire played
Yes I felt this so deeply
Ghast: here's a 44 minute video about Lyn's personality and story and why she's one of the great Fire Emblem heroes.
FEH fandom: boobs!!!
I see you AREN'T a man of culture
Lyn is actually my summoner support because I went to the trouble of getting her A supports in FE7 and saw her as a fantastic character. I always chose to pair her up with Hector since both attains emotional maturity because of each other.
Funny Thing, In FE7, Her Breasts Weren't... *THAT* Big, But Warriors & Heroes Came & The Rest Is History
@@akaneriyun4774 L.Lyn Is My Summoner's Support... *NO REGRETS*
Cheestro14 Funny things is Summer Lyn, the most fanservicy one, actually got a bust reduction seemingly. Either that or her clothes just made them look bigger.
>Is actually secretly a Wallace spotlight. This may not make Lyn that much more popular at this point, but him? He just became superstar for a day.
Definitely an underrated and overlooked support there. Speaking personally I rarely ever used Wallace in most of my playthroughs of Fire Emblem, especially struggling with the map where you face Lloyd. I ended up levelling and going for Linus' map on most playthroughs after.
Call her a bad unit. Either strictly 1 or 2 ranged.
But after this I don't think you can not say Lyn is a great support character for Hector, let alone a great one herself.
Yeah there are FE6 continuity issues, but Lyn shows how creative the writing team was for FE7.
Thanks Ghast, this was a great video, and I hope many people come to an appreciation for Lyn as a character.
That's the case with a lot of characters. Not so great gameplay, but great supports and what not.
Like my boy Renault
(is it legal to say "lmao shit waifu" after this comment)
I would argue that any and all "FE6 continuity issues" are 100% imagined.
@@FloraOfTheCats Yes, because she was never your waifu lol.
Lyn was probably my first and greatest female role model in fiction. Her strength of character, kindness, and pride inspired me from the first time I saw her. Seeing her develop through the game and facing challenges to her character making her grow made me admire her all the more. From an early age I decided if I ever have a daughter I would want her to be named Lyndis in the hope those positive traits in her character can be passed on to my kin.
How. How on earth is the person who made the amazingly edited, lengthy, excellently researched, and just over all high quality video. Is the same person that made "so this is basically fe6". Regardless of the fact that the two videos are of different genres with one a comedic and quick summary and the other, well I needn't say it twice. Youve evolved so much over all these years and your hard work shines through every second of your videos, especially ones such as these. Your unique charm is also so welcoming. I severely doubt you need it, but just as a statement from a long time viewer. You should be proud of the results your hard work prospered. And you should continue to keep up the hard work, it certainly doesn't go unappreciated. Amazing job, and good luck against Mangs :)
thank you for that! means a lot
@@Faerghast you've do amazing work with these analysis videos. Managing to make character that one may dislike not tolerable but rather interesting to learn about. I'm not a big fan of characters like Nino, nyx, and Lyn. They just didn't really click that well with me but rather just kinda hate them (not like the community helps with those perceptions haha) but your videos on them has actually helped me gain more respect for these characters I once hated. The vids arent "here are some examples on why this character is cool", it's a " Here is an in depth analysis of a characters story that you might not be familiar with" and with very little personal bias involved. They help people both veterans and new, learn something that once may have eluded them or gain a new perspective on a character they may have once set aside. And I can assure you my opinions about such are shared.
Missed opportunity to have Mangs voice Wallace
hahaha i respectfully disagree on that one
Imagine you do something that involves Danved and y'know.
The Wallace voice acting was amazing. I wouldn't have been able to do it that well.
True
@@Faerghast good call on that one lmao
Lyn's such a strongly-crafted character, and it's so impressive given how little she gets compared to most lords. In particular, I love how much of her resolution as a character is left up to you as the player. It makes her feel connected to me *as* the player (more so than Mark does, anyway)
I, for one, felt a double connection.
This video is a treasure. Absolutely fantastic. I waited for a support science on Lyn for so long, because she was branded as a character with "no personality". Videos like these completely bash these statements, as there is no character who has no personality. Beyond her simple exterior, she had some complications of adapting to a world she wasn't familiar with at all, and genuinely coming out on top.
She's my favourite character because she's fun to play as, with just that bit of deepness that makes her interesting. She is not extremely deep, I know. But she makes me feel happy whenever something is resolved by her, gameplay and story wise.
Ehm, sorry if it was overly sappy. That's just what I felt. Love at first crit.
"No character with no personality"
Ok dude but Roy tho
@@funninoriginal6054 *Personality: A Combination Of Characteristics &/Or Qualities That Form An Individual's Distinct Character*
Even Roy, Despite His Simplicity, Has A Personality... The Game Just Hates Him To The Point Of Being Someone Without Character Progression
@@BardockSkywalker
You have a good point.
This. This is why Lyn ties as my favorite female lord in the series, and also ties as my favorite lord overall alongside Hector. She really is a great character and I'm glad you took the time to make this video on her Ghast
My Thoughts, *EXACTLY!!!*
Vivi 恥ずかしがりや自信がなくなった Ornitier You guys on G+ were right all along weren't you? I said back then I'd concede when I felt I was proven wrong. Well, this is me admitting defeat.
44 minutes what have we done to deserve this!?
If I ever see ONE person telling me that Lyn is a boring character after this, I'll respectfully tell them to stop without loosing my temper.
We just watched it and that was enough
@@seovania9601 Lyn is a plain girl
@@moosiemoose1337 *chuckles
Heheh I'm smelling danger.
@Moosie Moose
DIE MONSTER !
YOU DON'T BELONG IN THIS WORLD.
The voice acting is 10/10 and it makes your video enjoyable to watch!
Came expecting to see the Lyn X Hector ship, stayed for the true Lyn X Wallace ship.
LinkKing7 RATH*
Ew, gross. don't say that out loud damn, hentai artists watch like hawks.
@@ZerkMonsterHunter YOU HAVE APPEARED MAI KING
@@ZerkMonsterHunter That's why hentai artists are the best.
@@greatrieck esp. when they draw hawt yet w.a.f.f. shit >////>
a little sad you didn't mention her support conversation with Will in which she tries to convince him to get in touch with his family and her reunion with each individual member of her band during chapter 15
9:40 Pretty much is perfect. What a lot of people don't get about Lyn is that she is just "there" after her story mode, but thats the complete opposite of the truth. Her character arc continues and is further developed after what is built and established in Lyn Mode. Glad you can really show why Lyn is such a well written character which is something people tend to miss when it comes to discourse about her.
It’s more or less she has no urgency.
For the plot, she is just there. Almost inconsequential, if not that entirely. For her, she grows, and finds peace.
OwinBlazer inconsequential is a poor way of putting it. Matthew contributes nothing to the plot but I’d be damned before I say he’s inconsequential because of his events.
Can say the same thing about the army the lord suppose to have....oh wait they dont even make an appearance
To Bad FE Elitists *COUGH COUGH Mekkah & Mangs COUGH COUGH* R To Blind To See That
There's such a huge chemistry and unity through this whole thing. This is one of my favorites of yours.
Excellent analysis. Lyn is an amazing strong heroine in her own story because so far she's lived only in a world where she was encouraged to take pride in herself. It was her pride in herself that let her win the day, but Lycia is a whole new world where she can't always know what to expect. Eliwood accepts her because he's Eliwood, her grandfather loves her as she is, but she can never know whether other Lycian nobles will warm up to her, hate her, or condescend to her.
That's an interesting point about why Lyn was alone for six months after her people died, about how she might have pushed other people away in her grief and anger. We see how kind she is to her allies during her path (she didn't even stay mad at SAIN for long when they first met) and when she's headstrong, it works to her benefit. She's never really had to THINK about having to adapt to a world where it wouldn't. She's dealing with culture shock, a new role she doesn't feel suited for, and people who challenge her long-held perceptions.
I tend to favor Lyn's Sacae endings, but I warmed up to Lyn/Hector because they really do have a great dynamic and considering how unconventional Hector already is, I can't see Ostia batting an eyelash over him marrying a half-blood princess.
Lyn and Wallace's support brought PERFECT closure to her desire for revenge. I like to imagine that even if you don't get their A support it still takes place post-game and she still gets that closure because she deserves it.
Okay, so. Wallace now bvecame one of my most underrated FE characters. This kinight;
- Disobeyed his lord and allowed his close friends to elope while suffering for half a year as punishment for his failure.
- STILL remained loyal to said country, despite his disagreement and punishment.
- Joined Lyn, despite her being an "imposter" according to his lord's propaganda.
- Annihilated an entire bandit tribe to prevent his friend's daughter from being overcome with rage and bloodshed.
if this guy isn't one of the most inspiring characters, I don't know who is.
Rekka no Ken's story: cliched, filled with holes, makes less sense the more you think about it
Rekka no Ken's characters: peak
The story in FE7 is one of the best in the series. So much deeper than people realize, because it’s all told through text and takes time to uncover. Seriously glad this was my introduction to the series in 6th grade, and I’ve been loving FE ever since. :)
I wish guys like that General Banzai clown would understand that.
Ah yes, the famous tactician Sub plz.
Ghast, i love your Support Sciences series. Honestly i think it´s among the best FE content on youtube. And it´s really great to see how much they improve in quality with every new release. I especially enjoyed the start, when you told us, how your perception of Lyn changed while working on this video. Adds an interesting personal note. Keep up the good work and im looking forward for the next one.
And last but not least: shoutout to the amazing voiceactors ♥
Wonderful analysis as always! Loved the voice acting too -- absolutely stellar performance from FishyFried as Lyn!
Woah, what you said about the revenge plot and Wallace is really great. Thinking about it, Lyn holds a lot of similarities to Rutger. He's even from Bulgar, the town where Lyn's life takes a dramatic turn. They're both swordspeople of Sacae who lost their tribe to people from Bern, they both swore vengeance, both made it personal that it had to be them to do it, and both let it overtake their positive qualities. I don't know where to go off of that, but I think it's pretty neat.
Wow, the voice acting is superb. And the script, as always!
Yes! Lyn and Hector is my favorite ship in all of Fire Emblem for these exact reasons. It’s nice to see my own thoughts so well articulated by someone else, amazing work on this video as always.
Oh boy oh boy this is going to be a long comment
First thing's first - congratulations on yet another magnum opus. Both the production quality and the execution are stellar and never cease to amaze. I consider myself a great fan of Lyn's, and yet there was plenty in this video that I had never really thought about that deeply, which made the whole thing immensely enjoyable, even when I knew more or less what you were going to say. With that in mind, although I agree with most of what you said, there are a few little additions or critiques I would make, for the sake of whomsoever isn't already satisfied after watching the full video.
The first point is more of a nitpick, really. Lyn isn't a princess, of any sort, and the concepts of nobility and royalty are conflated throughout the video. It's made clear that the Lycian League is a collective political entity with no royal or imperial oversight, which makes the individual Lycian nobles just that - nobles, not royals. As for what Lyn's title would actually be, if we're going by English rules she would probably be styled Viscountess Caelin, and inherit the title of Marchioness Caelin on Hausen's death. This doesn't mean anything for Lyn's character, but it's something worth bearing in mind.
The second point is that you make the distinction between two paths that Lyn must choose between - that of staying in Lycia or moving to the plains, framed as the choice between her love of family and love of homeland. I would actually argue that this is a false choice, as ultimately the two are exactly the same thing. Lyn's love of the Sacaean plains is inseparable from her love of her family who lived there with her; and more importantly, the memories of her family from when her life was still normal. Her desire to return when in Caelin is, in my view, a natural extension of the fact that she still ultimately has not got over her parents' deaths and her family's abandonment; she still subconsciously views the plains as the place where her family is, especially when it becomes clear that Hausen will not be around forever. She is deeply emotionally scarred by the horrific way her family died and almost all her personal decisions in the game in some way feed back into the desire to, in some sense, resurrect her family. The supports she has and the ending she gets decides if she can finally move on by building a new family, as in the paired endings, or if she continues to live with the gnawing desire to bring back a family that she no longer has.
But yeah, family is the driving theme behind all this game's characters and it's really annoying when Lyn's choice is reduced to the overwhelming desire to spend the rest of her life in a field, which some others have done.
Thirdly, Wallace. Wallace is one of my favourite characters in the series and honestly the Wallace/Lyn support might be my favourite support chain in existence, between Wallace's precise and profound language, Lyn's raw emotion and the light it shines on Wallace as a person. "In clarity lies beauty" is such a wonderful way of putting it, especially when you think of how Wallace is introduced. Lyn remarks that she likes him because he's "honest", when really he is anything but - he acts as if he believes Lyn because her eyes are clear, when really it is because he recognises Madelyn's eyes, and he pretends to get lost in Bern when really he was able to track and exterminate to the last man a bandit group that Bern itself had not been able to stop in over ten years. But with that, he brings it back full circle to their first meeting. I could go on and on about Wallace but I'll stop now.
On a related note, it has been observed in the past that Lyn is among the most ruthless Lords in the series - some have said most ruthless, though I question whether she is more so than Hector or Ephraim or Ike or Gaiden Alm, for example. It's an interesting contradiction that she is simultaneously very empathetic and compassionate towards those she cares for or who need her help and yet cold and dispassionate towards those she has decided are not worthy of living. She seems quite comfortable with being that way, too, so I'm not certain to what extent it is related to her childhood trauma.
Fourthly, I was surprised that you did not mention the running story in Hector's support with her, where she believes he is belittling her strength, challenges him and loses, and starts learning different sword techniques that are better for fighting someone like him. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts, because there's a lot to unpack - her preoccupation with her personal strength stemming from her trauma at being unable to fight off the Taliver, her lesson in what her limits are, in how her pride stopped her from winning because she refused to even acknowledge Hector's effective class advantages, and in how her confidence is severely shaken and then restored by Hector's concern and attention to her feelings. So yeah, that's something I think tells a lot about their relationship, as well as Lyn's request that Hector hit her to make her feel better, and her offer to cry for him when she hears of Uther's death, while silently begging him not to die.
Finally, and this has nothing to do with her supports, but there are sometimes comparisons made between her and Nino, in terms of how children are portrayed in FE games, which I thought were interesting in terms of her character. She and Nino are, at least in the Japanese games, similar in age - Lyn is 16 and Nino is 14 when they meet - but both behave vastly differently, to the point that the claim is made that "the characters clearly aren't the age they are stated to be", or similar. This is, I think, missing the point, or at least an interesting discussion. Lyn's and Nino's respective character designs reflect the way that they want to be perceived by the world. Lyn wants to be seen as an adult, to be seen as strong and independent, because that's how she believes she can protect the family she cares about, as part of her coping mechanism from her childhood trauma. Nino's ultimate if futile goal is to be "worthy" of her mother's love, so she presents as a model, obedient daughter, because that's what she thinks her mother and thus family wants, group of murderous assassins notwithstanding. Interestingly, when the two of them drop their masks, Lyn becomes more childish while Nino becomes more mature, in some ways, even though both have different personalities. This feeds back into what you were saying about her insecurity when she runs into conflict that her wilfulness cannot solve.
great analysis!
Lyn is literally called the Princess of Caelin by Ephidel.
Ephidel:
“…Gallantly spoken. Of course, I know who you are. Marquess Ostia’s younger brother, Lord Hector. And here we have Caelin’s beloved princess, Lady Lyndis.”
@@icelerate8141 True... but I think that's more of a colloquial choice on the part of Ephidel to be condescending (lowercase princess, rather than the style of Princess) rather than the acknowledgement of rank. In the same way that Nergal calls her "little girl from Sacae".
That being said, you are correct that the use of Princess as a catch-all tends to be awkward in some systems, particularly with regards translation from other languages. Strictly speaking the title of Princess belongs only to the wife of a Prince or to the daughter of a monarch/monarch's children, but afaik some continental nobility systems don't draw that line and so all descendants are also styled princesses... it's complicated.
Anyway the point I was making was that nobility =/= royalty and it's a mistake to conflate them
I guess Greil was being condescending to Elincia because he said princess in lowercase.
Greil:
“You say you are the princess of Crimea?”
You only capitalize a word like princess when it is being said part of a name. He capitalized Lady because he called her Lady Lyndis. Not Princess Lyndis.
I agree she's lower ranked compared to actual royalty but for some reason she's considered a princess. Maybe in each of the territories, the marquess is treated as a king of sorts.
i can imagine Lyn having her revenge (instead of Wallace) taking over her thought process, becoming a cold blooded killer. it coulda potentially ruin her if she had it her way; bless Wallace.
Sp0okeh Her thirst for revenge may have turned into thirst for blood by her blade. She could possibly have become another Sword Demon had Wallace not stopped her.
@@akaneriyun4774 ...another... Karel?
Joshua Gabriel Catindig yes but with bows
Lyn Alter for Heroes when? Bonus points: Unlike the cackling psycho that is young Karel or the damaged edgelord Rutger(Critger), she's just a robotic killer. A machine that destroys. And no, no guiding her back to sanity, leave the bloodthirsty psychos as that.
@@jouheikisaragi6075 IS's Heroes division: write that! write that down!
Again I find myself astounded. I never know what to expect from these videos but I always finish them stunned by how in depth they go, this has given me a whole new appreciation of Lyn's character. I left a similar comment on the Hector SS but everything about this video was great, the exploration, editing and voice acting were all amazing. I don't care how this comment makes me sound but good shit Ghast. Thank you and everyone else involved for making this 😊😊😊 xx
The voice acting on these are always amazing and they always seem to fit the characters perfectly. And I'm glad that now there is a video like this to show that Lyn is just as good a character as Hector or Eliwood.
Man going back into these supports, from years ago, really makes this alive and real. Maybe it's the voice acting or it's just the topic at hand. Thank you Ghast.
I loved lyn's character and personality she was so marure and goodly written ❤🎉😊
Lyn and Eliwood's chemistry will always be my favorite. I love the way Eliwood is willing to accept and love everything about her and goes out of his way to give her reassurance innherself.
The quality of this video felt like it reached a new level with the inclusion of the amazing voice acting. Huge shoutouts especially to Lyn’s VA.
Just came across this video, great work with the voice actors and analysis. Hearing Wallace dubbed like that really made me see him in a new light!
I know that some people might not like Lyn as a unit but as a character she's amazing and is kinda underrated. Thank you Ghast, this is my second favorite Support Science after the Nyx Support.
they dont like lyn as a unit?? must be idiots who didnt know how to utilise her power correctly
@@doctordre005 She's a liability on Hard Mode. Promoting her instead of Eliwood will greatly affect you and your score. She doesn't even get the crit bonus of Myrmidon class.
@@everretwavince1843 really? as far as i can remember her rate of crit is quite high even on hard mode
@@doctordre005 Why waste a Heaven Seal on her if you cant get Eliwood with a mount on promotion and access to Javelins upon promotion? Lyn is locked to Swords without the crit bonus of Myrm plus locked to the crappiest weapon which is the bow. Both Eliwood and Hector have access to weapons that can work 1-2 range. Using Heavenly Seal on her after you've promoted Eliwood will tank your score. She's not worth it.
@@everretwavince1843
Because Eliwood is stoopid poopoo head
Lyn was one foot into the Dark Side, but Chad Bro (Uncle?) Wallace stepped in and brought her back to the light. I know this is a Lyn video, but this also made me a Wallace simp.
Lyn was already my favorite female FE character, but this made me love her even more! Thanks Ghast and the brilliant voice actors in this video.
Like most here, I’m a fan of Lyn. This does kinda support my headcanon that Lyn is the Captain America/Lancelot of FE7, someone who wears their heart on their sleeve, always does the “right” thing, and their pride is both their biggest flaw and their strongest asset.
Damn good stuff Ghast
Me: *See's Lyn in thumbnail*
Dad: *pulls out meat sceptre*
"Hello, police?"
You mean ZerkMonsterHunter
@@Abigdummy4life yeah, I meant daddy
Why not Alpharad instead?
@@butteredsalmonella why not both
My grandmother passed away on the day this video was uploaded and watching the scenes with Lyn and her grandfather was like looking into a mirror.
I watched every support science and never expect one would bring me to tears. Amazing Support Science Ghast! Looking forward to the next one : , )
May Ur Grandmother Rest In Peace
Reason to love Lyn
Amazingly done 44 minute analysis on her character and development ❌
Thighs 32:45 ✅
Man, that Lyn & Hector scene on the boat is one of the best exchanges in FE
her grandfather took so much poison and still survived, elibe's poison DOES suck omg
Poisoned mutton 0
Elibe 2
Imagine the ammount of poison the bandids needed to wipe out Lyn's tribe, holy shit.
Welp considering poison do like one damage yeah they do and her grandfather probably a general with cap hp or some shit
I'm gonna assume Lyn worked her magical know how of herbs to try and sap the poison out of system living in plains may actually grant Lyn the power of healing nature let's just say Lyn wasn't the only blessing that came back hausen that day ..... Probably if Lyn is living on the plains and some bandits may carry poison here and there she might have access to herbs and such
Playing the game on my ol' GBA as a wee lad, Lyn was best girl,
Playing through the game again today, Lyn is still best girl.
I'm really happy for all the Lyn fans. I hope that this either confirmed to them why they like her or added depth to her if they only liked her for nostalgic reasons. Lyn might not be close to my favorite character in the series, but this video certainly helped deepen my appreciation of her and really helped to frame her as more than just a Mary Sue in her campaign as some have claimed and a supporting character to Hector and Eliwood in the main story. Lyn is certainly more than a pretty face and deserves a heck of a lot more credit beyond being a lot of people's first Fire Emblem crush.
this. I can't stand people who only like Lyn because of "dae thighs" and don't even see her character development, like the internalized racism she must face. Hell, she's not even considered a pretty face or "traditionally beautiful" as a lady in her own game, just strong, proud, and Sacaen. Those in power see her as a mongrel. Some like Eliwood & Hector and her friends see the beauty in her.
Oh...I understand a bit more about why people like Lyn. Thank you for this since I never got to play this title.
I'd say most people is "waifu XD" cause I know a handful of people who like Lyn, but never played her game. Ghast just writes really well and presents his take on characters which may or may not be the reason why people like her.
Yo you should do someone like Joshua, or maybe Leif. Both of these characters have to rise up and take up the throne and lead their people after relatively peaceful lives.
The big step up in editing and the voice acting makes this video so much more engaging. Worth the long wait
Wow. It's like Im reading the dialogue for the first time. Voice acting just adds so much color to the story and helps me connect with the analysis. Another quality upload Ghast.
I hope that a potential Binding Blade remake has her appear in it.
If they can make her fit into the game, without feeling forced. I'm all for it.
@@Yarharsuperpirate That's the problem. The only way to not make her inclusion forced is by only giving her a short cameo in a house on the Sacae route.
@@Yarharsuperpirate That's the thing though. In her pairing with Hector, she would likely go to war with him and die with him or fight in Eliwood's place if paired with him but that destroys the point of Roy leading the army. The only pairing I could see her surviving in is where she's paired with Rath and she's out doing gorilla warfare tactics with Dayan. But I know IS wouldn't like to fuck with people's pairings so I really don't know how she would fit in.
@@joey_1034 ...or she could be already dead, just her spawn (Sue, Lilina or Roy) paying respects to her mother, in Sacae with a clear sky above her resting place.
Dez Lovecraft It would be cool if it just picked at random which of the three pay respects to their mother in Sacae.
I remember when support science was a chill twenty minutes tops. Now it's averaging almost an hour. You've grown up so much, Ghast. I'm proud of you.
Agree with me:
Lyndis is the best girl in the whole franchise
I was always a big fan of Lyn - she was the first fire emblem character I ever saw, and her tale is a sweet story in finding both herself and the grandfather she never knew.
Bless you for 44 minutes Ghast.
This video was quite fantastic as I got to learn more about this great character. I did Kent x Lyn for my first completed playthrough of the game and was actually quite satisfied with that ending. Although Wallace's support has gotten me curious to do it on my next playthrough.
Also did Kent x Lyn on my first. But opted Hector x Lyn this go-through.
Ghast this is very well done. " In clarity lies beauty." So profound.
My first OTP was Eliwood x Ninian, then Lyn x Hector hit me in the face like freaking Armads. Lyn and Hector's banter and growth is so good. I feel like they compliment one another well. Very nice video. No matter what path Lyn chooses, she will be happy!
I do see it often that people refer to Lyn as a bland character and I wonder to myself if we played the same game. Lyn is my favorite FE character and I'm glad you made this, spotlighting the many layers that make her so great.
Also glad that Wallace was brought up as he tackles the darker side to her character. It really shows how far gone she was with her revenge and illustrates what she had the potential to become. This was a great episode of Support Science, thank you ghast. The voice acting was spot on and hit all the right feels.
fighting back real tears here at 22:00, the voice acting on this was so well done... great video as always, love these support sciences.
This voice acting is fucking great, and so is the analysis. Well done
Loved it :) I learned alot about Lyn in this video and man I just want to hug her. Favorite female character in the series, and thanks so much for making this video Ghast!
yhaa, Lyn does look like she either needs a hug or be there when you need it
Probably my favourite Support Science episode since Eliwood. Good work Ghast!
One of my favorite videos just in general. I've watched it several times over the years. I love seeing my favorite characters dissected to this degree, it really makes me feel warranted in liking them no matter how many people call them shallow or whatever.
Also, the voice acting in this video is fucking incredible, honestly. It gets me emotional; props to the people who did the VA work.
There’s liking Lyn for reasons like this. Then there’s me who likes Lyn cuz her crit animations were the coolest to see.
You did one hell of a job here, Ghast. Thank you so much for making these kinds of videos. Videos like these that analyze and explore the journey and development of characters are one of my greatest joys to watch. Enthralled I was when I found myself trapped in your storytelling and fulfilled I became when the story came to an end. One of these days, I hope to make videos like this one. I've always loved discovering just how people and characters tick, what motivates them to do what they do and what struggles they encounter and how they may either resolve them or flounder to do so. Please do keep on making videos like this one. I'll happily watch whomever you may cover this. Till next time!
To be honest i've always seen Wallace as meme bald averange character. Now then i must Say he s Amazing friend and guy. He let his friends escape even if his career as knight would collapse. He was activly looking for his friends murderers and kill them all alone. And at aleast he helps their (lyn parents) daugther don't be consumed by hate. What. A. Legend
It's an absolute crime that these videos don't get more views.. Spared no expense with the voice acting and no stone unturned in a 44 min video.
I'll watch this video, but it won't make me change my mind on Lyn. I hate her for killing Batta the Beast and nothing will change that.
Yeah! Who does she think she is?!
Man, i barely made it through her killing Batta the Beast. but she really pushed me over the line when she killed Glass and his Peerless Swordsplay. That was too far.
He passed on the arts of brigandism to Edelgard, wich will avenge him on heros.
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Batta the Beast is my FAVORITE!!!
Why is he a Camus?
How could she! Batta was such a good man, then this weirdo rocks up to his new house and kills him!
The secret ending for Lyn (with Wallace) as the Goat Lord makes sense. She goes completely insane and solely used hatred to control enemies
Excuse any typos lol
This was a really good video!
She just has really good decent support all round
I never did pay much attention to Lyn and Hector's interactions(save for the funny ones) but she really does go well with Hector. They way their supports just fit so well into the story is really really good.
I personally like the Eliwood/Lyn pair
Their supports are relatively entertaining and heartwarming as Eliwood tries to help her be proper only to tell her that lyn is good as she is
I personally think their special conversation in (if they reach A rank) she returns those feelings as she goes on about how strong eliwood is and how she'd stay by his side as well
(Thank you for not saying that Lyn had shitty supports with Eliwood you did them justice lol)
Evern if that wasn't enough he stuck by her side
He marries her regaurdless of controversy and powers through the outcry by eachothers side
If they do remake fe7 I hope they give Lyn more development by merging the supports and the story like they did with Hector
Seeing another person out there that like the Eliwood/Lyn relationship, I now know that I am not alone on that ship. So thank you. Your point is well explain, I like it. So hear a 👍 for you. Again thank you.
I want Lyn to wrestle me to the ground
Same
Thank you for this video. This game holds a special place for me since it was my first FE game and Lyn will always be a special character. I was a naive young kid when I first played it but watching this video now really opened up more of her character to me and makes me appreciate the game even more.
Another awesome video. I though I had understood Lyn very well, but the parts involving Hector really made me realise that there was a whole other layer that I just wasn't seeing. Also, I can't believe you were able to convince me that Hector was a better paring for her than Rath. But I guess it's all thanks to the main story. As just supports, I like Rath's more, but the interactions with Hector in the story are very fleshed out and lowkey very multi layered.
I rank this my 4th favourite Support Science so far, right below Eliwood's.
Has Celica as the face of the Great Lord class.
*I approve.*
Again with the amazing support science video! You really have put in a lot of work into this one Ghast!
First Fire Emblem game I played. I really fell in love with her character. After the ending of the prologue I was a bit pissed to go further with Elliot. So it was nice she came back. And Lyn is at least in Easy mode a great fighter. ;) She and Hector were awesome.
Why your Support Science is something I love to watch, you go over so many aspects of the character. Especially their supports and how they affect the character in a fashion showing that each one(even if not possible in the same timeline) stay to her character. Another overlooked aspect of Lyn that is shown is how she does compliment the other lords while adding to herself. The rare but great supports and scenes where both parties grow.
To an extent, I do really like how she teeters a dangerous line in her campaign without challenge. Yet time later and new setting, where her strengths become weaknesses. Rattling her, becoming part of her next chapter to rediscover both what she lost and what she'll need to grow. Thank you so much Ghast, I look forward to showing my FEH friend this. Big Lyn fan and hasn't played a main series game yet.
Thanks for sharing!!
Wallace’s voice acting made me tear up a bit.
This video was absolutely amazing. There is so much stuff that I didn't even know about in this video, and know that gives me a greater appreciation for Lyn. Great work!
If they ever remake 6&7, I honestly hope they separate marriage options into S, purely so that we can have Lyn get married while also having the closure of Wallace A support at the same time. Wallace became one of my absolute favorite characters in the franchise because of those supports.
17:06 I think she was obsessed with axes because the bandits killed her parents wielded axe
Wow Ghast Lyn has always been one of my favorite lords and this just clarifies my reasons why she lost her family so of course you would expect her to get revenge I feel like all her supports are amazing and for that I thank you for this
I used to be so bothered by Wallace taking Lyn's revenge for her. The Taliver Bandits seemed like another FE7 sub plot with no ending, so resolving that in a support conversation felt more than just lazy, but perhaps sabotage for Lyn's character. But I never gathered how much Wallace cared for Lord Hassar or for Lyn. Wallace is also old enough that I buy his reasoning. Meanwhile, if this revenge mission came from somebody like Rath or Kent it would be unbelievable with their low level of experience as a warrior.
i have a goofy headcanon that even if lyn marries hector, she still goes to the plains sometimes and comes back with like, a deer or something
I...
now that you've said (er, typed) it out-loud, I find myself completely agreeing with this for some reason
Hector is the kind of man to support such actions
44 mins
This is going to be good
Thank you so much for this video. Lyn has been my favorite video game character ever since I first played FE7, and this is a fantastic examination of her character. I also now understand why so many people ship her with Hector, though I'm personally more a fan of her ending up with the tactician.
Also finally someone mentions one of Wallace's best supports! That dude is awesome.
I'm also a fan of that as well. We never did heard of what happen with the tactician, that they can't find him.
Ghast you sneaky. I just saw the thumbnail lol
HOLY SHIT, THE VOICE ACTING IS STELLAR. LYN AND WALLACE CONVO LEGIT HAD ME IN TEARS. SHE IS A QUEEN I LOVE AND RESPECT, GOOD JOB VA
After all that... Lyn just needs a hug.
Your support science videos always make me appreciate how the older FE characters have more in-depth details than how they were literally represented on the main games.
I myself started playing FE when Corrin was announce for Smash bros so started playing fates and thats how I got exposed to the franchise as a whole. Then FEH came along there are so many characters I missed out that how I wish my country has major exposure to the franchise before.
I never got to finish the original GBA FE because of University, but your support science has provided me enough to feel like Im actually learning the character in game as of now.
So Ghast, I thank you so much for taking your time to make these types of videos to us fans be it a veteran or newcomers like me.
I would start call Lyn now instead of Lady Lyndis
Enjoyed the voice acting in this! Can’t wait for the next one, I can tell you put a ton of work into these.
Lyn is still my favourite character of the whole FE series and I was really surprised how everyone thought of her as boring or bland because I've always thought of her as someone who has so much potential for character development.
Lyn's story doesn't entail a grand, noble journey of defeating Nergal or a dragon like Eliwood or Hector but more of her struggles with her identity and past which is why I found it more rewarding when I finally unlocked all of her supports(except for Wallace).
I actually forgot about her whole vengeance fiasco as I went through the game but damn this actually reminded me of it. After 10 YEARS!!! I'm gonna play FE7 again and try maxing out her support with Wallace this time it's gonna be a good time.
Holy crap, 44 minutes! I've been joking in a lot of conversations that even Nino has more story focus and better writing than Lyn, so this should be a good watch.
Okay, yep. This is an eye-opener, I forgot how much there was to her!
The thumbnail art is beautiful.
Love how marks name was changed to "subplz" 35:07
I find her more of a family woman in the sense of direct bloodine over tribal heritage. Blood is thicker after all so I think loyalty to her blood trumps the loyalty over her home at least in my playthroughs. These are also endings where I believe she stays out of her comfort zone in Sacae. This is something I see as in character for her especially with the growth we see from Eliwood and her but especially Hector and her.