I'd argue that commando is easily one of the survivors in risk of rain 2. It has been mathematically proven that most of his abilities, including his m1, deal an amount of damage at a range. Furthermore, his default shift is often underrated and underutilized because it actually moves him a distance and has a cooldown. His alt R is also often overlooked, but if used properly, has the ability to deal AMOUNTS of damage to enemies. In addition to all of this, most items have been algorithmically determined to have an effect on commando in some way or another. This video is slander and I hope you delete it immediately as well as reconsider your position.
The reason he is the best survivor is that the sunglasses look the most stylish on him. Many survivors don't even wear them correctly. Every character can get god runs but precious few can be blinged tf out.
I feel this. I nearly cleared voidfields for the first time with him. And when I died I immediately thought "If I was playing Bandit with the good rng in voidfields. I would've actually completed it" But Commando's fun nonetheless. Its like having a vanilla after having so many different icecreams in a while.
commando is dogshit in terms of raw power, but frankly, he's one of my favorite survivors, since in a game full guys and gals and dogs and robots with magical sci-fi abilities, he's just a guy with a gun and i think that's based
He isn't "dogshit" in terms of raw power by any means. He's outclassed but it doesn't mean he can't kill or deal great damage He's also one of my favorites because he's simple and his moveset is fun
What people need to realize is that, it's not that Commando is "bad" because you simply cannot play with him, because obbiously you can. He's "Bad" because the other survivors simply are just better than him.
He's also just very "simple", which ironically makes him an amazing character design wise, even if "boring" by comparison. He doesn't have any complexity like Huntress' locking on, Artificer's CD management, or the HP balance of Rex that you can brag about or show off to others. He does exactly what it says he does, you point and shoot and then things die and that's mostly it. Any items you pick will will pretty much always be at least "solid" on him, meaning how well you do is largely dependent on personal skill and understanding of the fundamental rules and flow of combat rather than "you got bad RNG items". He has the cursed fate of being "the tutorial character", intentionally designed to be dropped later on in favor of a cooler character. He's "vanilla" because not everyone can start off with triple chocolate fudge with sprinkles, but once you learn how things work, it's usually more fun to try something different.
the reason people like him isn't because his abilities are unique, its because of his potential. mando is very item hungry and needs stuff like bleed and proc chains, but if you get those he can use them better then almost any other character in the game.
@@quickdraw6893 More like some characters are extremely versatile with their potential builds, while others require a certain handful of items or you are F U C K fucked. Some characters like Loader and RGunner are god-tier from the start and don't need much to get going. Whilst some characters like Rex have certain items that you frankly need in high Eclipse. Or characters like Mercenary that are fairly average but need a certain item or two to go from average to god build in an instance. Commando is very easy to scale with because of how most items will be useful for him. Procs are especially good, but you will scale with most things. For that he definitely doesn't suck. He can quite consistently get god builds provided you don't suck at the game. Fast fire rate with good accuracy for proc and firerate, a high damage attack for crowbars, movement ability for some early survivability, and a guaranteed stun is nice to have. If I wanted consistency, Commando wouldn't be my top pick but he'd be in the top half of the characters in the game. Not only do a lot of items benefit him, but he also has the utility to punch above his weight in the early levels without a good build.
@@AkuraTheAwesome His movement is crap. He sucks at range for proc chains and...it's a game. And some people get bored of playing the same characters repeatedly.
@@pagatryx5451 his movement is some of the best because of his tanky dash ability. A couple of easy mobility items is a really small price to pay for literally everything else. The Commando is mostly that, like you said, variety. He's something different, worse than pretty much everyone and not good at much, but he's another character. His real value is totally missed by the majority of the community, by far his best trait is that he's simple. He's super basic and that makes him a great character for people to start with and compare others to to help understand the mechanics of the game. Commando being kinda shitty and unspecial is what makes him useful and special. He's super simple for the overwhelmed new player, because the characters of Ror2 are designed to be specialists, sometimes you need a guy who is only a little special. He's basically Hawkeye from the Avengers, simple and somewhat effective but he ain't no Captain America.
his primary attack has a proc co of 1.0 meaning a single missile launcher or ukulele turns him into a power house because of the sheer number of procs. sure he has bog standard point and click gameplay, but hes a proc machine which is where most of your damage will come from in long runs
Commando feels far too fair. Nothing to exploit or build around, just a piece of toast. No jam, no cheese, no honey, just butter. Toast can be good, yeah. But compare how fun practically duplicating items with engineer or doing a giant punch as loader or hacking 3 things at once with captain is compared to: Shoot with increasingly bad accuracy, shoot a lot of bullets twice/shoot one bullet that everyone forgets ignores collision because that aspect is completely useless (you can't aim through walls), move forward, and shoot quickly or holy fuck get this: Throw grenade. MUL-T's secondary is commado's specials in one package. I have procrastinated ever filling out his eclipse.
Commando is a good charater for learning what items do scince he's completely depended on them. So you gain and understanding of the important of items very quickly.
Commando is honestly really fun. They start off weak but scale really hard because of their really good proc co efficient. My favorite part of his is the nades because they are just so satisfying and can do great damage
I will always die on the hill that Commando isn’t ass. However, I will agree that he is simply not as viable as other classes for more difficult runs and can’t hold his own when faced with bad RNG. But does this mean he’s bad? No. It just means that his main purpose is to be a good first survivor for new players to use that helps them learn the core mechanics of the game, and to show overall which items you’ll want to look out for.
Commando's just way too honest in a game like ROR2. He doesn't get backstab crits, Poison, auto aim, orbiting shot-blockers, etc. All he has is 2 guns. He works, but don't expect to get too far with the guy. Also, his unlocks are a pain in the ass to get.
Instructions unclear, on my 7th loop right now and the moment I press left click a wall of missiles shoots out of me if I hit something, and everything is covered in sticky bombs
Pros of playing Commando: 1. Playing him makes you better at the game, because it is harder, because he sucks. 2. Your runs will be shorter on average 3. You can blame all your losses on the fact that he sucks, not you.
With how many people support this, and the different ideas people have even regarding the character, you think this proves how the game has good balance since even one's 'worst' character is still seen as good and with some people having way more success with him than others? Feel as it's a nice thing to have where, if debates like this are frequent, means that really any character can be very successful in the right hands and playstyle, even more than others. So even if he's the worst by many opinions, he's more than function with many people attesting to it and having very good runs on his own. This was probably a bit too serious for a comment section filled with jokes.
I mean in this game that's more a factor of the reality that items > kit after a point. People mention his proc coefficient but like, the worst he's usually competing against is something like 0.7, and those abilities are usually way better than his at base to more than make up for it.
Completely unrelated to commando- I'm angry that you didn't use your ceremonial daggers more effectively in the first run. There were beetles all over the place, and you decided to attack the tankiest enemy first.
I think what they were going with for Commando was solid proc chains and no strengths or weaknesses. Highest potential procs per second for a basic attack with the exception of Mul-T and well... His has a range debuff on top of lower proc coefficient. No item is *bad* on him really with the exception of items that don't interact with his kit at all, like some lunar items or Bungus. All proc items are strong with him, but nothing stands out much. He has mobility, to a degree, which is better than Characters like Captain. He can have damage with proc chains... which he can set off easier. He isn't exactly tanky, but mobility and attack speed mean that things like Harvest Scythe or Leeching seed are more useful. Basically, he's the milk-toast character, designed to help initiate people into RoR2. Huntress shows that playstyles can be wildly different.
Old comment I know but the devs have gone on record of saying they don't care about balance at all, so Commando being good at proc chains and nothing else is likely entirely coincidence, and also the reason why he hasn't gotten any major changes. They even believe the SoTV items are the same level as the past items and aren't actually stronger. Basically Hopoo doesn't know shit about balance and Commando is bad at most things and good at a couple things entirely by coincidence lol
My buddies and I play with mods, there's one mod that gives commando a choosable buff for bonus damage, movement speed or one other buff I forgot. He's actually a lot more fun with that 7% movement speed buff. Don't know what it is, but it feels great.
Beetle main here. Best character, no arguements. Definetily recommending to try out, although, you need mods for that one to be playable. (Cough) On Monsoon.
He might not be the fastest, he may not be the most powerful, and he may not even use magic, but gosh darn it, it feels damn good when you clutch a win with a team consisting of a dead loader, a dead huntress, and a dead mercenary. Best character to flex your skills and knowledge with.
Commando is a good vanilla ice cream. People call him basic bust thats just because they see him as the default. He is the delicious middle man of survivors, easy to pick up, but a lower skill ceiling for what he can do.
HAHA i have trapped you in ur own intellectual cage silly commando main. HUNTRESS the other risk of rain 2 survivor is unlocked by default. Allowing us to utilize her EXTREMELY MOBILE but fragile survivor with a HIGH DAMAGE OUTPUT, INTEAD of commandont. ALSO, Railgunner is unlocked by default so your point is even further disproven ! kind of embarrassing for you to be put down so thoroughly in a public forum, but that's justg what you asked for isn't it? When will you commando mains ever learn that someone like me (an Engineer main) is just intellectually superior in every way? 😎
Really the default secondary just needs some kind of buff. The default utility needs a rework because it barely feels like a roll, the slide feels more like one to be honest.
Jokes and memes aside, Commando is unironically great at what he does; introduce new players to the itemset. Think about it; he's plain, simple, and straightforward. You know what all his stuff does even if you didn't read the class description. He's the perfect blank canvas upon which to project the various items. If you have no reference point in Risk of Rain, then he's a wonderful choice to learn what the items do. He's also supposed to encourage that you try the other classes, because he is a rather limited class compared to some other choices. In those jobs, Commando excels. No other survivor would be able to accomplish these as easily.
I’ve been tryin to beat the game on Rainstorm with commando just to challenge myself, and after getting insane RNG, with like 5 syringes and ukelele’s I got literally one shot out of nowhere… shit’s frustrating…
I got an insane run with shatterspleen, ocular hud, and even a clover and I still managed to die I don’t even know if commando sucks anymore I think I just suck
@@dando541 Huntress is alright. She's only slightly better than commando though because she's got fuckin' auto-aim. And again. You mostly have to do commando to unlock anyone else.
@@JeremyFinch42 fair enough huntress is fun but arrow rain sucks and if I get touched by anything I literally die (however having the mobility to dodge anything is nice)
The reason I like commando is that he's the most vanilla with the most basic abilities you can start off with, and I really like going from base vanilla to a god. There's something really satisfying about starting with the standard play style and making it your own.
The point of the commando isn't to be good - the point of the commando is to be easily understood by a new player. It's an entry point, which feels familiar. His left click works like a machine gun, his right click is one stronger shot. The shift skill is just a short dash forward and the "ultimate" a stunning burst. This is immediately understandable for any new player. And while yes, it has low potential compared to other survivors, there is also very little that one can do wrong when playing him. So all in all, I think Commando works fantastic as an "onboarding" tool for newer players, until they feel somewhat comfortable with RoR2, before they move on to other survivors, which fit their playstyle better.
My first try with commando since the beginning when i had no other survivors gave me my first victory. I think the fact that his M1 has a 1.0 proc coefficient even though it sprays bullets like there's no tomorrow gives him serious potential to be overpowered as hell. I just stack up with "on-hit" items and use his slide ability and he's genuinely an incredible character imo.
Bro, elixir is so pog on commando because it actually gets used. I played Commando earlier and it only took me 30 minutes to get all the way to stage 3, which set a new personal record for me. I went through 20 elixirs and didn't break a sweat because if any survivor is truly broken in ror2, it's Commando. When I play commando with the command artifact, my first legendary is always desk plant. It literally breaks the game on commando if I manage to kill an enemy. He's truly the best survivor and anyone who says otherwise is wrong, because there are no other survivors, just losers.
The thing I hate most about Commando is that the requirements to unlock his alternate skills are ridiculous, forcing me to play this plank of wood for even longer than I ever want to.
For me, I know commando Is bad. But there's something about his simplicity u enjoy and his left click is feels so nice to mow things down. If they added another one like that I would change but for now that's my boy (and yes I know mult has that but it's super inaccurate)
commando feels like a character that you would find in another shooter that isnt risk of rain, they act as an intro to how the game works and is easy to master not being complicated, the other characters are better yes but they do require more skill to play due to various reasons such as acrid being based around the poison mechanic and rex being based around health management than anything else, commando is for newer players to get used to the game and become familiar with it.
Personally i play commando not cause he’s good, but cause I’m the kind of person who does everything on the highest difficulty, and also he isn’t terrible, he just isn’t vey good
I keep telling my friend that commando feels bad to play and all he says is "well he's the jack of all trades" and i understand that but he can be jack of all trades and still feel good to play
I have to say, unlocking his alt shift for getting a five minute run first tp was good motivation to try getting good with commando. God damn if it wasn't frustrating though. The director kept spamming the shit out of every pita monster it could lol
Also the only reason I play commando instead of the other strong characters is just because they win too much I feel like there’s just no challenge. Also I’m a bit of a masochist
what if not being good is his class trait? all survivors have subtle differences that make them unique. what if being bad is just commando's feature???
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says the man who beat eclipse 8 with em like a week ago 💀
For 'aoe' use his normal m2
Ahh yes commando, with his large arsenal of skills such as: shoot, shoot but blue, shoot but fast, and dodge
Ah, but you fool, you forgot his most valuable asset: dodge but *also* shoot.
imagine choosing shoot fast when throw boom exists
My favorite has to be *die fast*
You also forgot: shoot but blue, again.
I'd argue that commando is easily one of the survivors in risk of rain 2. It has been mathematically proven that most of his abilities, including his m1, deal an amount of damage at a range. Furthermore, his default shift is often underrated and underutilized because it actually moves him a distance and has a cooldown. His alt R is also often overlooked, but if used properly, has the ability to deal AMOUNTS of damage to enemies. In addition to all of this, most items have been algorithmically determined to have an effect on commando in some way or another. This video is slander and I hope you delete it immediately as well as reconsider your position.
i legitimately cannot believe that he's one of the survivors in risk of rain 2
counter argument:
You should get into selling consoles and tech with that kind of speech
He is undoubtedly one of the survivors ever made
@@rndThursday That is a counter argument made by someone, but you should consider this counter argument, also made by someone:
The reason he is the best survivor is that the sunglasses look the most stylish on him. Many survivors don't even wear them correctly. Every character can get god runs but precious few can be blinged tf out.
bandit looks fantastic in the glasses too
Loader.
Yeah but acris holds bison steak in his little puppy mouth
Acrid tho…
acrid
If you get max stacks of tri tip, max crit, shatterspleen, 100 iridescent pearls he's overpowered
So is mult in power mode with that
so true king
Yeah but who wants to do that when you can just play nuclear artificer with a lot less work
@@milesellis4534 who plays artificer
@@ieathalfburnedpopcorn6318 nah just commando
See but with commando, you can blame every loss on the character being bad AND poor RNG. It's the ultimate excuse survivor.
hmmm i like this
Depending on when you died, blame it on not enough tri-tips, sticky bombs, ukuleles, leeching seeds/scythes, scorpions, or meat hooks. It’s that easy.
yep commando sucks 100 percent.
I feel this. I nearly cleared voidfields for the first time with him. And when I died I immediately thought "If I was playing Bandit with the good rng in voidfields. I would've actually completed it"
But Commando's fun nonetheless. Its like having a vanilla after having so many different icecreams in a while.
commando is dogshit in terms of raw power, but frankly, he's one of my favorite survivors, since in a game full guys and gals and dogs and robots with magical sci-fi abilities, he's just a guy with a gun and i think that's based
also yea behemoth extends the procs carried by the attack
He isn't "dogshit" in terms of raw power by any means. He's outclassed but it doesn't mean he can't kill or deal great damage
He's also one of my favorites because he's simple and his moveset is fun
@@CowKirbo i love his moveset too, but yeah, him being outclassed by everyone is what I meant by saying that he's dogshit
@@CowKirbo i play him when i don't want to think and just shoot the shit out of everything
Bandit is just Texan Commando
Me getting a bunch of soldier's syringes as commando so I can deal no damage faster
Me studying for a test so i can be stupid faster and still fail:
HAHAHAHAHA
I’m a sheep so I do as I’m told, no more commando for me
good sheep
No, play commando disobey the overlords join the commando rebellion!
play random
reject order embrace chaos
The power of commando is greatly overpowering if you simply believe in him...
oddly enough......these are wise words
shut
The believing tech is completely countered by the existence of void seeds, sorry to say
actually true
This is true with the right strats then he's great the best survivor even
the problem is that you can't tame the commando, that's why you think he's trash, it's just that simple
tame him? owo
@@rndThursday never speak again
@@spoonfullofmemes agreed
@@rndThursday what the Fuck
god i need to be tamed so bad rn.......
You won with Commando. Commando good. Good video rnd! Thanks for sticking up for us Commando mains! You're now officially a Bromando.
@@rndThursday how did you do that you fucking wizard?
Commando is based. Him being weak makes every win feel better. My fine glass of glue never tastes better than after a win with C-Man
You welcome
C man because he’s C tier, at most 🗿
@@cureorsomething4121 He mad fun to master tho
I eat glue, you can't stop me rmbtuesday
elmers is too powerful
What people need to realize is that, it's not that Commando is "bad" because you simply cannot play with him, because obbiously you can.
He's "Bad" because the other survivors simply are just better than him.
Yeah, best way I would describe it is that Commando isn’t bad, he’s good, it’s just that every other survivor is better.
He's also just very "simple", which ironically makes him an amazing character design wise, even if "boring" by comparison. He doesn't have any complexity like Huntress' locking on, Artificer's CD management, or the HP balance of Rex that you can brag about or show off to others. He does exactly what it says he does, you point and shoot and then things die and that's mostly it. Any items you pick will will pretty much always be at least "solid" on him, meaning how well you do is largely dependent on personal skill and understanding of the fundamental rules and flow of combat rather than "you got bad RNG items".
He has the cursed fate of being "the tutorial character", intentionally designed to be dropped later on in favor of a cooler character. He's "vanilla" because not everyone can start off with triple chocolate fudge with sprinkles, but once you learn how things work, it's usually more fun to try something different.
I don't think they need to realize that. They just enjoy Commando.
obbiously, ough
@@Late0NightPC my boy you said all that nonsense just to be insanely wrong LOL
the reason people like him isn't because his abilities are unique, its because of his potential. mando is very item hungry and needs stuff like bleed and proc chains, but if you get those he can use them better then almost any other character in the game.
holy shit so if i get a god run i can be even more god? this is truly the survivor of all time
@@quickdraw6893 More like some characters are extremely versatile with their potential builds, while others require a certain handful of items or you are F U C K fucked.
Some characters like Loader and RGunner are god-tier from the start and don't need much to get going. Whilst some characters like Rex have certain items that you frankly need in high Eclipse. Or characters like Mercenary that are fairly average but need a certain item or two to go from average to god build in an instance.
Commando is very easy to scale with because of how most items will be useful for him. Procs are especially good, but you will scale with most things. For that he definitely doesn't suck. He can quite consistently get god builds provided you don't suck at the game. Fast fire rate with good accuracy for proc and firerate, a high damage attack for crowbars, movement ability for some early survivability, and a guaranteed stun is nice to have.
If I wanted consistency, Commando wouldn't be my top pick but he'd be in the top half of the characters in the game. Not only do a lot of items benefit him, but he also has the utility to punch above his weight in the early levels without a good build.
But why wouldn't you just play Mult who can do all that but way better and tankier? He can duel wield and easily outshine commando.
@@AkuraTheAwesome His movement is crap. He sucks at range for proc chains and...it's a game. And some people get bored of playing the same characters repeatedly.
@@pagatryx5451 his movement is some of the best because of his tanky dash ability. A couple of easy mobility items is a really small price to pay for literally everything else.
The Commando is mostly that, like you said, variety. He's something different, worse than pretty much everyone and not good at much, but he's another character.
His real value is totally missed by the majority of the community, by far his best trait is that he's simple. He's super basic and that makes him a great character for people to start with and compare others to to help understand the mechanics of the game. Commando being kinda shitty and unspecial is what makes him useful and special.
He's super simple for the overwhelmed new player, because the characters of Ror2 are designed to be specialists, sometimes you need a guy who is only a little special. He's basically Hawkeye from the Avengers, simple and somewhat effective but he ain't no Captain America.
okay, but commando can get ATG Missile Launcher, which is one of the items in the game. how can a character like that be bad?
i don’t think woolie is going to like this
Well yeah woolie us more correct and says commando is best character
Commando is a blank slate in my opinion. Infinite possibility.
Yeah
And zero damage
@@QTZALCTAL idk maybe try actually hitting enemies that might help /s
@@josephross63 *cries in 3 plasma shrimp and 5 Polylute's yet still not killing anything*
@@QTZALCTAL ok lol actually tho i think it might be a skill issue if that's the case
his primary attack has a proc co of 1.0 meaning a single missile launcher or ukulele turns him into a power house because of the sheer number of procs. sure he has bog standard point and click gameplay, but hes a proc machine which is where most of your damage will come from in long runs
counterpoint: captain
but yeah I agree and I'm pretty sure that's why 2/3 of his achievements require you to have a really long run
I’d argue that commando is THE survivor to determine if you are good at the game or your gaming chair is dogwater
Commando is God tier with all of the herecy items
Commando is sss tier when he is the heretic
took me a second to realized the joke
Sadly, having all the herecy items is even better on Captain
Captain>>>>>>>
Mando is S tier. This run was pretty weak but if you had 30 more syringes you would have seen his true potential 🍀
you forget 30 atgs, 30 ukuleles, and 10 clovers mate
Commando became a survivor because the 2000 other commandos in his squadron got eaten by a worm and it wasn't hungry anymore.
Commando feels far too fair. Nothing to exploit or build around, just a piece of toast. No jam, no cheese, no honey, just butter. Toast can be good, yeah. But compare how fun practically duplicating items with engineer or doing a giant punch as loader or hacking 3 things at once with captain is compared to: Shoot with increasingly bad accuracy, shoot a lot of bullets twice/shoot one bullet that everyone forgets ignores collision because that aspect is completely useless (you can't aim through walls), move forward, and shoot quickly or holy fuck get this: Throw grenade. MUL-T's secondary is commado's specials in one package.
I have procrastinated ever filling out his eclipse.
You can do some fun stuff like flying with the utility or using your secondary as a primary with some cdr items.
@@coolgabe555 Y'know who else can do those things? Railgunner. (Let's be honest railgunners primary is their secondary.)
@@Our_Remedy railgunnner can also aim through walls , even if she can't shoot through them - she's just better commando
I can confirm, commando is like toast. Unbuttered toast
In a world of tanky robots, super swordmans or mega tech soldiers.
Bandit and Commando are just the Hawkeye and Black Widow of Risk of Rain 2.
Commando is a good charater for learning what items do scince he's completely depended on them. So you gain and understanding of the important of items very quickly.
Commando may be rubbish, but there's just something very satisfying about his point-and-click style.
Love the content as usual mr strimmer
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Virgin "He's underpowered and low utility" vs Chad "I point gun and go tatatatatata"
It's very aesthetically pleasing to play Commando.
I got the classic sniper mod and it's a certain dopamine rush that comes from that point and click adventure
"I cast fuck everything -in that general direction- in this one very specific point"
Commando is honestly really fun. They start off weak but scale really hard because of their really good proc co efficient. My favorite part of his is the nades because they are just so satisfying and can do great damage
Lol commando is my second favourite survivor after artificer, with Merc in third
With 4 plasma shrimp and 5 delicate watches i did barely any damage to enemies on DRIZZLE
@@juhno7659 that is the most controversial list I’ve ever seen and I love it lmao
@@forshovelry2705 lol yeah, I think I might actually be the only one who hates playing loader
@@QTZALCTAL "playing on drizzle" opinion invalidated
Commando gang rise up
I will always die on the hill that Commando isn’t ass. However, I will agree that he is simply not as viable as other classes for more difficult runs and can’t hold his own when faced with bad RNG. But does this mean he’s bad? No. It just means that his main purpose is to be a good first survivor for new players to use that helps them learn the core mechanics of the game, and to show overall which items you’ll want to look out for.
he sucks in comparison to the whole rooster, would be cool if he got some more significant abilities
@@unzkipriime4283 wow, can't believe he's so bad he gets outclassed by a rooster
@@spacebar-vx7ck lmfaoooooo 😐😐😐
@@unzkipriime4283I like roosters
@@unzkipriime4283 You can't be upset blud, he gotcha there.
Commando's just way too honest in a game like ROR2. He doesn't get backstab crits, Poison, auto aim, orbiting shot-blockers, etc. All he has is 2 guns. He works, but don't expect to get too far with the guy.
Also, his unlocks are a pain in the ass to get.
Instructions unclear, on my 7th loop right now and the moment I press left click a wall of missiles shoots out of me if I hit something, and everything is covered in sticky bombs
commando is only for people with skill
Pros of playing Commando:
1. Playing him makes you better at the game, because it is harder, because he sucks.
2. Your runs will be shorter on average
3. You can blame all your losses on the fact that he sucks, not you.
i like commando :) i think his design is the most iconic in the game out of all the survivors
also bad character doesn't mean not fun character
With how many people support this, and the different ideas people have even regarding the character, you think this proves how the game has good balance since even one's 'worst' character is still seen as good and with some people having way more success with him than others?
Feel as it's a nice thing to have where, if debates like this are frequent, means that really any character can be very successful in the right hands and playstyle, even more than others.
So even if he's the worst by many opinions, he's more than function with many people attesting to it and having very good runs on his own.
This was probably a bit too serious for a comment section filled with jokes.
exactly I used to get the most consistent(being obliterating or killing mythrix runs with him more than the other characters
I mean in this game that's more a factor of the reality that items > kit after a point. People mention his proc coefficient but like, the worst he's usually competing against is something like 0.7, and those abilities are usually way better than his at base to more than make up for it.
i like giving equipment drones used tri corns so they just fly around saying AHOY! every few seconds
I like to give them the pot cus they try to attack with the portals for some reason
Completely unrelated to commando- I'm angry that you didn't use your ceremonial daggers more effectively in the first run.
There were beetles all over the place, and you decided to attack the tankiest enemy first.
Imo daggers are the cheeses item in game. If someone grabs it as 'pick ur own item' I leave.
@@tommysuhlami6241 do you mean command?
I think what they were going with for Commando was solid proc chains and no strengths or weaknesses.
Highest potential procs per second for a basic attack with the exception of Mul-T and well... His has a range debuff on top of lower proc coefficient.
No item is *bad* on him really with the exception of items that don't interact with his kit at all, like some lunar items or Bungus.
All proc items are strong with him, but nothing stands out much.
He has mobility, to a degree, which is better than Characters like Captain.
He can have damage with proc chains... which he can set off easier.
He isn't exactly tanky, but mobility and attack speed mean that things like Harvest Scythe or Leeching seed are more useful.
Basically, he's the milk-toast character, designed to help initiate people into RoR2. Huntress shows that playstyles can be wildly different.
Old comment I know but the devs have gone on record of saying they don't care about balance at all, so Commando being good at proc chains and nothing else is likely entirely coincidence, and also the reason why he hasn't gotten any major changes. They even believe the SoTV items are the same level as the past items and aren't actually stronger.
Basically Hopoo doesn't know shit about balance and Commando is bad at most things and good at a couple things entirely by coincidence lol
My buddies and I play with mods, there's one mod that gives commando a choosable buff for bonus damage, movement speed or one other buff I forgot.
He's actually a lot more fun with that 7% movement speed buff. Don't know what it is, but it feels great.
Beetle main here. Best character, no arguements. Definetily recommending to try out, although, you need mods for that one to be playable. (Cough) On Monsoon.
Honestly I only play commando because It's a neverending puzzle trying to figure out how the grenade physics work
i just use behomth for grenades lol
3 to 4 stacks of ukulele on Commando with 7 syringes is mad fun.
“No aoe she’s spawning 18 beetles”
Hmm, i wonder if commando had an unlock with aoe and substantial damage
sadly he doesnt
@@rndThursday quite sad it is
It pains me to say that my best and longest run (stage 42) was on Commando while I was just farming achievements
SAME LMAO. I just couldn't get an Overloading Worm to spawn, and it also happened to be my first ever encounter with Benthicc
He might not be the fastest, he may not be the most powerful, and he may not even use magic, but gosh darn it, it feels damn good when you clutch a win with a team consisting of a dead loader, a dead huntress, and a dead mercenary. Best character to flex your skills and knowledge with.
The gigachad ROR1 commando vs the virgin ROR2 commando
is this the legendary woolie callout post mr thursday
because i got him on speed dialing
Bad or no, my first monsoon WILL be him
just did my first eclipse with him lmao
Commando is a good vanilla ice cream. People call him basic bust thats just because they see him as the default. He is the delicious middle man of survivors, easy to pick up, but a lower skill ceiling for what he can do.
How is commando bad? With out him you can't get any other surviver hm???
HAHA i have trapped you in ur own intellectual cage silly commando main. HUNTRESS the other risk of rain 2 survivor is unlocked by default. Allowing us to utilize her EXTREMELY MOBILE but fragile survivor with a HIGH DAMAGE OUTPUT, INTEAD of commandont. ALSO, Railgunner is unlocked by default so your point is even further disproven !
kind of embarrassing for you to be put down so thoroughly in a public forum, but that's justg what you asked for isn't it? When will you commando mains ever learn that someone like me (an Engineer main) is just intellectually superior in every way? 😎
@@rndThursday but what if, huntress is badderer than commando? And railgunner is too hard for normal new players with the high skill auto aim rifle
@@CowKirbo Engineer main here, and to counteract your point: no.
You see, I am a Commando apologist, not because he's secretly an amazing character, no he's bottom tier easily. He's just really fun to play.
I had a friend who argued that commando was good.
I have never once seen him play commando.
cant tell if ur friend is based or not
Commando is a really crazy character did you know he can roll?
You can say commando is bad all you want, but his slide skill is awesome
Really the default secondary just needs some kind of buff. The default utility needs a rework because it barely feels like a roll, the slide feels more like one to be honest.
The default secondary literally hits everything in a line with an AoE, it doesn't need one. It also gets higher damage hitting the enemies behind it.
Jokes and memes aside, Commando is unironically great at what he does; introduce new players to the itemset.
Think about it; he's plain, simple, and straightforward. You know what all his stuff does even if you didn't read the class description. He's the perfect blank canvas upon which to project the various items. If you have no reference point in Risk of Rain, then he's a wonderful choice to learn what the items do.
He's also supposed to encourage that you try the other classes, because he is a rather limited class compared to some other choices.
In those jobs, Commando excels. No other survivor would be able to accomplish these as easily.
you know the game is balanced when the worst playable character is broken
actually true tho
When I play weak characters, it annoys me not just playing them, but how much the community hates them.
The best equipment drone is used Trophy Hunters Tricorn drone. It just says Ahoy! every few seconds
I just like commando for stacking bleeds to insane levels.
I’ve been tryin to beat the game on Rainstorm with commando just to challenge myself, and after getting insane RNG, with like 5 syringes and ukelele’s I got literally one shot out of nowhere… shit’s frustrating…
dont worry shrimpy, you'll get it soon. and then you will never have to play that horrendous character again
I got an insane run with shatterspleen, ocular hud, and even a clover and I still managed to die I don’t even know if commando sucks anymore I think I just suck
Reasons why you SHOULD play as Commando: You can't unlock anyone else until you've played as Commando.
what about huntress
@@dando541
Huntress is alright. She's only slightly better than commando though because she's got fuckin' auto-aim. And again. You mostly have to do commando to unlock anyone else.
@@JeremyFinch42 fair enough huntress is fun but arrow rain sucks and if I get touched by anything I literally die (however having the mobility to dodge anything is nice)
The reason I like commando is that he's the most vanilla with the most basic abilities you can start off with, and I really like going from base vanilla to a god. There's something really satisfying about starting with the standard play style and making it your own.
Waiting for Woolie to see this lol, them’s fighting words mr. streamer
railgunner stole that glue addiction and put it next to his glasses addiction
Damn I was checking the comments to see if woolie would Defend his boi
The point of the commando isn't to be good - the point of the commando is to be easily understood by a new player. It's an entry point, which feels familiar. His left click works like a machine gun, his right click is one stronger shot. The shift skill is just a short dash forward and the "ultimate" a stunning burst.
This is immediately understandable for any new player. And while yes, it has low potential compared to other survivors, there is also very little that one can do wrong when playing him.
So all in all, I think Commando works fantastic as an "onboarding" tool for newer players, until they feel somewhat comfortable with RoR2, before they move on to other survivors, which fit their playstyle better.
good comment
very good comment
extremely good comment
I like him for the 1.0 proc coefficient, very decent firerate, decent mobility, and the frag grenade + brilliant behemoth tec.
Commando may be able to do that, but counterpoint, Engineer has 3 guns, Commando has 2.
I think the rest is history.
Engi has 2 guns and a grenade launcher which is even better
based
I main captain I just like shotguns and the on demand healing he has with the health beacon lol and yes I am aware he is D-tier at best lol
Y’all say his trash till he has 20x over seers and 15x syringe
4:16 insert vine boom sound effect after each point
writing this down for next time
Commando grew on me significantly while I was going for incorruptible. It was a nice time even if it was brainless firing
Turning his default R into an insane bullet hose while going for Incorruptible was fun
My first try with commando since the beginning when i had no other survivors gave me my first victory. I think the fact that his M1 has a 1.0 proc coefficient even though it sprays bullets like there's no tomorrow gives him serious potential to be overpowered as hell. I just stack up with "on-hit" items and use his slide ability and he's genuinely an incredible character imo.
I’m 400 hours in and he’s still my favorite 😢
🤣
dont worry, this is normal. we just have to condition you.
If commando was an unlock and you had to start with huntress only we'd see some different opinions
Yeah
It's still kinda sad that Hoopo still hasn't added a candle item as a joke
Slide. That slide makes me pick him all the time.
Commando is good when you have no one else to choose from
Bro, elixir is so pog on commando because it actually gets used. I played Commando earlier and it only took me 30 minutes to get all the way to stage 3, which set a new personal record for me. I went through 20 elixirs and didn't break a sweat because if any survivor is truly broken in ror2, it's Commando. When I play commando with the command artifact, my first legendary is always desk plant. It literally breaks the game on commando if I manage to kill an enemy. He's truly the best survivor and anyone who says otherwise is wrong, because there are no other survivors, just losers.
The thing I hate most about Commando is that the requirements to unlock his alternate skills are ridiculous, forcing me to play this plank of wood for even longer than I ever want to.
For me, I know commando Is bad. But there's something about his simplicity u enjoy and his left click is feels so nice to mow things down. If they added another one like that I would change but for now that's my boy (and yes I know mult has that but it's super inaccurate)
I never even got the chance to meet Ben. Rest in peace buddy.
commando feels like a character that you would find in another shooter that isnt risk of rain, they act as an intro to how the game works and is easy to master not being complicated, the other characters are better yes but they do require more skill to play due to various reasons such as acrid being based around the poison mechanic and rex being based around health management than anything else, commando is for newer players to get used to the game and become familiar with it.
commando is Mr call of duty. it's the generic good character to get people started. (soldier 76 overwatch reference here)
I think you meant to say, **ahem**
*Commando best survivor*
Engineer is the brain rot character
rdmtuesday's issue is that he wasnt stuffing his mouth with blue crayons while playing Commando
while I agree commando might not be the best I REFUSE to have anyone think engi is better, get that copium out of the description
Personally i play commando not cause he’s good, but cause I’m the kind of person who does everything on the highest difficulty, and also he isn’t terrible, he just isn’t vey good
Commando is good because he wears orange like Gordon Freeman, and Gordon Freeman is indestructible
I really hoped you'd use "The secret broken watch strategy"
the best part of comando is how much he procs
Commando Supremacy
I keep telling my friend that commando feels bad to play and all he says is "well he's the jack of all trades" and i understand that but he can be jack of all trades and still feel good to play
I have to say, unlocking his alt shift for getting a five minute run first tp was good motivation to try getting good with commando.
God damn if it wasn't frustrating though. The director kept spamming the shit out of every pita monster it could lol
Instructions unclear, I'm now a Commando main
Also the only reason I play commando instead of the other strong characters is just because they win too much I feel like there’s just no challenge. Also I’m a bit of a masochist
you wanna be a masochist? Just do double saw mul-t
@@jamclone dear god sounds smeggzy
@@taconachoz3753 it sure is. better yet, try killing a vagrant without items with that kit
@@jamclone it’s not gonna work lol it’s just guaranteed death. But I’m gonna try anyways
@@taconachoz3753 lmao
not gonna stop me from playing him because he looks cool and shoot gun.
what if not being good is his class trait? all survivors have subtle differences that make them unique. what if being bad is just commando's feature???
His gimmick is that he's bad.
I think his gimmick is BULLET but you aren't horribly wrong
COMMANDO GANG ARISE
"look at all those beetles! i have no aoe!"
this! this is why frag grenade (also when you bank it off a wall and kill a wisp... SO juicy)