CZ P-10c vs P-07: Two Kinds of Hipster

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  • @shanegrimmett7
    @shanegrimmett7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sheesh!! That barrel on the p10s is sure nice!!!!! Now the p10c is on the list! The only TH-cam channel I freak out when a new video shows up!

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha! Thanks, buddy! The P10’s barrel gets me excited too-it is a pretty impressive chunk of steel. Thanks again!

    • @shanegrimmett7
      @shanegrimmett7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @HipsterTactical absolutely! The chunk of steel is nice!! I've not shot one but it seems per your experience it shoots really laggy and relaxed!

  • @talonsqz
    @talonsqz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Picked up a used CZ 75 P07 Duty recently, looking forward to more time at the range w it. An impulse buy; felt good in the hand; my 1st hammer fire, thought I’d acquaint w the platform.
    I’ve enjoy your vids; info, discernment, enthused passion - THX!!

  • @richdubbya
    @richdubbya 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Both are awesome. But I'll go P-07 all day long. Not that it's that much better, but I'm a hammer guy. I almost got one recently, but at the last second scored a P1 Ultra.. Just because it's more hipster.. 🤑🤣👍👍 Still won't dog the CZ though. It's a great pistol
    Oh, and so you know.. If you Google: Best Hipster Pistol, the AI names you specifically and your recommendations.. That that has pretty funny. You're famous, Man.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hahaha. I knew being polite to ChatGPT would pay off! But if I was gonna rely on either of these for a carry gun… it’d be the P-07 for me too. And congrats on the P1! I’ve never tried a Grand Power-always thought the P11 was neat. Thanks for the support!

    • @richdubbya
      @richdubbya 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HipsterTactical you'd love GP. Think if a CZ, a Makarov and the Beretta PX4 had a baby. They're totally up your alley.

  • @rabbitholereviews
    @rabbitholereviews 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love my M07. Much handier than the P-09 that I used to have.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, it’s a great all around size. And so is the P-10c. Both are excellent do-all, mid sized pistols. Thanks for the comment!

  • @andrewberman8743
    @andrewberman8743 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really enjoy your videos. Own P10C & P07. Inexpensive & run flawlessly. Especially liked your video on Browning Hi Power.
    Thanks for putting in the work.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, brother! Yeah, they're both excellent pistols. And so is the BHP. It'll always be one of my faves. Thanks again!

  • @lon242
    @lon242 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cool to see you review a contemporary striker gun like the P10C. At least it's still a hipster choice 😅 After seeing your take on it, and with how well you elucidate pistols' recoil characteristics, I'm curious to what you'd think about the Walther PDP. Many seem to think its recoil impulse is too snappy compared to its peers. I would bet you'd like it, or at least appreciate it - I love mine. I feel it gives a lot of feedback to the shooter, with brisk recoil and a return to zero/original aim point I haven't felt with many other pistols.
    Prior to the PDP, I had an OG Walther P99 that I bought and almost immediately sold back in 2010 or so. I'm not sure if it was my 92FS spoiling me, but I couldn't get used to how snappy and harsh I thought its recoil was. I can't help but think the PDP has a lot of what I felt with the P99, as if that part of its DNA still remains. But years of shooting experience allows me to appreciate the PDP's "snappy" shooting characteristics. A part of me wants to pick up a P99 just to see what I'd think of it as the shooter I am now, vs. the recoil sensitive wuss I was all those years ago 🤔
    Anyway, yeah, I know contemporary plastic striker gats ain't really your thing, but one of these days, maybe try out a PDP. You mention you picked up a Q4, which is awesome. Never shot a steel striker Walther, but want to. I suspect a lot of its snap would br tamed, making for a super responsive, yet milder-than-polymer recoil impulse. Looking forward to that review!

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate guns that shoot well… no matter what they are. The P-10C is a great shooter at any price. Yeah, the modern Walther service pistols (ie, the P99 derivatives) are snappier than competitors. No doubt. But not enough to change the fact that they’re insanely accurate. My P99 is a one/hole gun. The trigger is a seamlessly telegraphic bullet-launching switch. Just got the Q4 SF, too… feels amazing, but the SA trigger on the P99 is still better. I would assume it’s the same story with the PDP. Thanks for the support and the kind words, my friend!

  • @tomgibbens6261
    @tomgibbens6261 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excellent trigger comments. Back in the 90’s I was looking for a pistol. I looked at the Glock. Some really good stuff, but I HATED the trigger. I thought I hated striker fired pistols. I bought a HI Power. Now I see huge improvement in striker pistols and my favorite gun is the P 10 F. Total CZ fanboy.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, man. Yeah, I’m doing my in depth write up on the P-10… it really is amazing how CZ took Glock’s fundamental formula and just made it… better. Subtle. More evolutionary than revolutionary. But they really knocked it out of the park with the P-10.

  • @johndeere1951a
    @johndeere1951a 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love my P-09 SR OR
    and P10F OR. I'm a long barrel, full size frame hand size and long sight radius. Both are extremely bullseye accurate right out of the case. Sold my P-07, G19X because they're too small . Good CZ presentation 👍👍.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, man! I would mind trying a P-09 at some point. That looong slide is just cool.

  • @gregcampwriter
    @gregcampwriter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've dry-fired a P-10C, and I own a 75B with an Omega trigger. As the price goes down for the P-10C, it'll become ever more attractive, since I found it to be a decent execution of a striker-fired pistol. But the 75B has the best DA/SA trigger in the market that I've experienced, and I already have a number of 9mm Luger pistols. Still, saying "CZ" to me is guaranteed to make me check my credit card balance.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A full size "OG" CZ 75 is the next gun on my list. I feel like I have to review it. And I think it's interesting how much the design borrows from the Sig P210. This P-07 is my first experience with the Omega trigger system. All the other CZs and CZ derivatives I've own had the OG trigger system. I can't say the factory triggers on my PCR and RAMI were mind-blowing... but I preferred them to the what's on the P-07, by a small margin. In any case... thanks for the comment and galvanizing my resolve to get a CZ 75!

    • @gregcampwriter
      @gregcampwriter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HipsterTactical The 75 is worth it--basically the best of the P210 and the Browning Hi Power.

  • @HTownWerewolf
    @HTownWerewolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man that was a dope track my dude! Great video I used to have a cz p10.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, bro! Yeah I feel like that one was hard... but not tooo hard. Perfect for this video :) Thanks again!

  • @hrnfw4818
    @hrnfw4818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shoot a Shadow. Revelatory. Like all the good of a P9s and none of the bad. Great review. Great explanation of why the decocker gun has a different trigger feel over the Shadows. You will become a CZ fan - hipster.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, a Shadow 2 is on my list. Definitely need to try one. Thanks so much for watching and for the comment!

  • @BillTrevino_Texan
    @BillTrevino_Texan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve had a PCR for just under 2 years - great shooter! I bought a P-07 last week and I’ll take it to the range tomorrow. It’s possible I’ll add a P-10C later this year or next. Good video!!! 👍👍

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, my friend! I had a PCR as well. From a shootability standpoint, I’d say I prefer to the P-07. But the the 07 seemed less finicky with ammo. Good luck!

    • @BillTrevino_Texan
      @BillTrevino_Texan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HipsterTactical Good range time with the new P-07! It's shoots very nicely -- I took the PCR to compare. The PCR gets a slight edge on "how it feels" in terms of grip. Both shoot well considering my average skills. Thanks for the reply!

  • @Paul_Whaley
    @Paul_Whaley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You got the Q4 SF? Yay! I think you'll really like that gun.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, Paul! I can't wait--I should be able to pick it up Wednesday. I already have the LOK grips for it. I'll definitely report back on my range trips. Thanks, dude!

    • @Paul_Whaley
      @Paul_Whaley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HipsterTactical Fantastic! I'll be looking forward to it!

  • @dmk0210
    @dmk0210 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice review. I cross shopped these two guns and initially bought the P10C, but ended up buying the P-07 as well. I really like both striker and hammer fired guns though. Maybe that's odd?

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, dude. They're both great shooters and both have their merits. If I didn't 4 billion pistols already I would have kept both. But, for... reasons... the P10c just spoke to me more. Thanks for the comment!

  • @Imragnar1
    @Imragnar1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your channel i guess the only way im a hipster is guns was not aware till your channel

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, my friend! Yeah, me too I think. Though I do enjoy some good kombucha now and then! Thanks!

  • @bertrammorris4076
    @bertrammorris4076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    P-07 All Day!!!! Nice review man!!!!

  • @ricktaylor4789
    @ricktaylor4789 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another great video, Matt! Very informative as usual. My favorite carry gun is my Sig P229, yet I find myself wanting to spend $400 on a CZ P10C. Curious, the P10C looks like it could be worn in a Glock 19 holster. Thoughts?

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, my friend! Yeah, I’m really digging my P229 these days. Great do-all gun. Fitting G19 holsters was one of the P10C’s selling points; but I guess some do and some don’t. So… maybe worth a try? Thanks!

  • @ReverendMeat51
    @ReverendMeat51 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've done gun stuff professionally for more than long enough to get burned out and bored by the whole concept of guns. You and Forgotten Weapons are the only channels capable of engaging me anymore, everything else is just background noise.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, my man. I appreciate that-especially coming from someone with legitimate knowledge and experience. I can’t speak from professional use perspective… but I try to capture the subjective elements of what these guns are like to shoot and experience. And be a little weird in the process 😁 Thanks again!

  • @DoubleActionStallion
    @DoubleActionStallion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Matt, great videos as always! This is a loaded question but, for lack of a better term are you a "glock hater"?

    • @alvolante4164
      @alvolante4164 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ❤ pure love bro. The Austrians built a yardstick a bench mark. Not the best. It revolutionized service pistols. Since it so popular every one knows it and makes it easy to used it as a reference. All companies had to adjust to it and these were examples of how cz approached competing with it. Sig had the 250 and 320. Sw got it right the. Second time also. We all have our preferences don’t we. What are yours?

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, bro! To answer your question... yes and no. I don't think Glocks are bad guns, per se (Al makes some good points, below). But think they have a halo of perfection that isn't commensurate with the reality of how they handle and shoot.

    • @alvolante4164
      @alvolante4164 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HipsterTactical it’s a heck of a one trick pony. For my it’s complicated… as I own one Glock and my beloved px4. I see glock as minimalism just the basics. Beretta on the other hand is an Impressionist. It helped liberate pistols from a focus on subject toward personal expression and the study of creating a unique looking & shooting experience.

  • @LVbibby
    @LVbibby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video. Can comeback for the new P09C later as well! I'm a hammer and da/sa enjoyer usually but the P 10 C prices were too good to pass have a good one.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching! Well, I think my next CZ review will be a full-size CZ 75. Hopefully I can grab one next month with my bonus check.

  • @RamblingsByCorey
    @RamblingsByCorey หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    See, I'm the hipster with a Cajun GunWorks P09

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oooo. I hear the P-09 is a tack driver. Especially with the CGW mods. Hope it's as awesome as it sounds. Thanks!

    • @RamblingsByCorey
      @RamblingsByCorey หลายเดือนก่อน

      It definitely improves a great gun. My pulls are down to 8ish lbs double and 3.2 lbs single with the reduced trigger pull kit ect. My P01 with their defensive carry kit and my Shadow Target 2 from CZC are better, but for a good duty pistol/banging around gun the 09

  • @Maelstrom8
    @Maelstrom8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting video. I had the exact opposite experience, which is what makes these reviews so engaging to me. Like Matt, I prefer DA/SA. I found the P-07 almost telegraphic in the way it points and handles. Recoil is also noticeably softer for a gun its size. Doubles and ready ups were a breeze with it. The P-10c felt very sharp in terms of recoil to me. Not punishing, by any means. But much less comfortable. I also found the grip texture to be very very uncomfortable. I am not recoil sensitive. In fact, a full range day in 44 mag happens regularly. But my hand felt like it had been tenderized after running the p10c.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I 100% agree the P10C’s recoil impulse is sharper-though not in a bad way. I like the direct, engaging feel. Not to mention the ergos and the snaptastic trigger. I think the p-07 probably has greater potential with the CGW pro kit… but I just found myself really digging the P10C. In any case… there are no wrong answers here. Both great guns. Thanks so much for the comment!

    • @Maelstrom8
      @Maelstrom8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@HipsterTactical Agreed. We really are in the golden age of pistols right now. Though I do wish more companies were making new DA/SA designs. Particularly, a micro compact! Great video as usual!

  • @DanTheWolfman
    @DanTheWolfman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice review Matt...maybe saves me money on not getting a p09c which I haven't held yet. I assume OG PCR trigger is dual action bar feels better than the Omega system correct? For DA/SA carry p2000 is hard to beat watch my two vids vs a buddies p01. You ready to let that BDA HP go?

    • @waterhead1359
      @waterhead1359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have both p07 and the p09c . The nocturne is much better in so many ways

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, the PCR has the OG CZ trigger system. And so does any P-01... that's not marked Omega. I had a P2000 for a while. It was nice. Very solid and reliable. But I dunno... I prefer the PX4 or a P229. But it's hard to argue with HK quality. I'll check out the video. Thanks, buddy!

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting. Are there any internal changes? I recall the product guy from CZ saying it was basically the same other than the ergos and external features.

  • @waterhead1359
    @waterhead1359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Never understood the cz hipster thing .more of a competition thing.

    • @alvolante4164
      @alvolante4164 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right! See the video what is a gun hipster!!😊

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True. CZs are prevalent on the competition scene. I think it's just because they're a little off the beaten path and people put labels on things they're not familiar with.

  • @willy4869
    @willy4869 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please tell me you are gonna review the Q4SF? I've handled them but never shot one. They are beautiful.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's the plan. Should be able to pick it up Wednesday. I already have the LOK grips for it :)

  • @henryfisher9948
    @henryfisher9948 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    interesting you bought a q4 in 2024 when the pdp sf 4" is out, seems like the slightly worse pistol no? I agree with your points on the p07, I am actually ditching mine somewhat soon as its really worse than my g19 gen 5 in every measurable way, especially since I have a 4.5 connector in the glock

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      $822, bro... for the Q4. The steel PDP is like $1400 or something. Plus, I prefer the less-bulky lines of the Q4... and you can still get a Q4 w/o an optic cut--I dig the cleaner look. Don't get me wrong--I like the P-07. It's a really good pistol. But, it didn't really do anything my Sigs and Berettas didn't. The P-10C does, kinda. Thanks!

    • @palpatov
      @palpatov 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HipsterTactical no optics cut “discount”? I would have jumped on that too if i did not already have a Canik

    • @palpatov
      @palpatov 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HipsterTactical also love how Walther makes the slide serviceable without the use of a hammer and pin punch :)

  • @AdamBond-mj7tg
    @AdamBond-mj7tg 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I dont understand why these guns are "hipster". Could someone explain? I dont think these combines with manbun. Rather formal suit-looking guy or just serious dude.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I dunno, man. I think the internet unofficially decided that CZs are the quintessential hipster guns. I mean… as I said in the video… I don’t think being a hipster means you stick to one brand. But hey-I just went with it.

    • @AdamBond-mj7tg
      @AdamBond-mj7tg 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HipsterTactical Maybe its because of the colors on the shadows 2?

  • @rickybobby8224
    @rickybobby8224 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Isn't hipster tactical an oxymoron?

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not anymore, my friend. Not anymore. We live in fascinating times, with a sh!t ton of fascinating guns. Embrace that which enriches thy tactical soul. Or something like that….

  • @Imragnar1
    @Imragnar1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ps p07

  • @palpatov
    @palpatov 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never liked the guns with too many roll pins. Why glock can make its guns with solid pins and every other manufacturer saves 0.11 on giving us the roll pins is beyond me. Cz , you kept the symmetric trigger bar because it matters. Why did you drop the ball here? Small details do matter!

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't disagree that roll pins blow. Luckily, I haven't needed to remove any on the P-10. And yeah, I'm not as much of a fan of the Omega trigger as the old design. Either way... CZ makes solid guns. Thanks!

    • @palpatov
      @palpatov 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HipsterTactical I don’t disagree. What I am saying however is that the roll pin implicitly broadcasts the manufacturer recommendation to not disassemble beyond this point. As a firearm junkie and tinkerer I don’t accept that. Glock understands this, CZ doesn’t at least far as p10 is. Omega is different, so are 75 pattern czs… I don’t know what possessed then to not spend the extra 11 cents on a p10. They probably decided people like me wont buy one so the hell with us :)

  • @guitardaddy6
    @guitardaddy6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow. horrible recoil mitigation and control. Why are you leaving the pistol aiming up after you fire? makes no sense.

    • @HipsterTactical
      @HipsterTactical  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mitigating recoil isn't the only aspect of effective shooting... plus, it's more of a follow through motion and really has nothing to do with actual recoil.