Thank you for putting this video together. I have a 168.017 with Cal. 561 and linen dial and it's one of my favorites. Love thr brick bracelet too, so comfortable to the wrist. You should create a reference book with all this knowledge.
The first watch presented looks almost exactly like my C-Case Constellation, even down to the croco strap. But mine is from 1968 and has a cal. 564 movement. Such a beautiful timepiece.
I have the exact same watch at minute 4:55. My great uncle received this watch due his 30 years working for a company. He gave the watch to my grandfather who gave the watch to my father and yesterday he finally gave it to me. That watch survived a house robbery among all the things they stole many years ago from my dad. I'm happy to know that I have the gold capped unpolished but overall the history that this watch has. Great video! Thanks for all the information.
I just picked up a 1969 14k solid gold 168.029 with linen gold tone dial. I've always loved the 60's and 70's Omegas. I have a 1972 DeVille 198.033 and a 1973 Constellation 198.076, both are F300hz tuning folk models. Both are Day/Date models, have been serviced, and run flawlessly. The 1972 was given to my Grandfather by Cook Electric in Chicago and they had his name added to the dial.
Just got a 168.027 and I'm loving it! Unfortunately it seems to have some problems with the quick date function, which doesn't work most of the time. I'll have to sort it out, any ideas?
Some of the teeth on the date disc is worn. In that matter, you’ll need to change it manually when you get to those date. Manually just means turning the hands every 24hrs for each date to change. The quick set date lever is too short to push the worn teeth. But the regular date driving wheel will have no issue.
You can watch this episode to understand how the quick set works: HOW TO PROPERLY USE THE QUICK SET DATE FEATURE ON YOUR VINTAGE WATCH WITHOUT DAMAGING IT th-cam.com/video/vJkZfpZuETc/w-d-xo.html
I have a 1969 constellation 168.029. It's a Great watch. I had it serviced by my watchmaker who has an Omega parts account. He said the rotor axle and day/date disk were worn, plus the crown gasket was deteriorated, so I had those replaced with new service parts. the crown and day/date disks look ever so slightly different, but I feel it was worth the refresh especially since I would be wearing it a lot. (I still kept the original parts of course) By the way, always love the content on this channel.
I got nervous as I read through this message, but thank goodness you mentioned that all the old parts were still with you at the end. Phew. Thanks for sharing, and enjoy your Connie C.
Thanks for the video! I got a gold constellation "C" with only date. The back on my side doesnt have as detailed "observatory" like some other models that have a brick-like texture on them. What's the difference? Great video!
I believe that the solid gold version has a plain roof on its observatory emblem, the ones with the brick roof are the stainless and gold capped versions
any information on the gold MEISTER variant of the 168.017? Also, what do the letters "SP" stand for after the model number? I have a model with 168.017 SP written on the case back.
Thanks for this video, I have two of these C-type beauties. Would you happen to know what buckles were typically used on the models with leather straps?
Hi, the C model came with a few different strap buckles depending on the year. One from 1964 will be different from one from 1969. But I would not complain about getting my hands on any genuine buckle. :-)
Thank for the video. I would like to know when will the prices on your website be posted . I like the 168.029 day date . And I like the omega logo on top but the omega logo above the 6 is interesting and had a Unique look is it more rare the omega symbol above the 6 o’clock marker? Thank you again for the video keep me posted on the prices
All pieces are now available at the site! The Omega word above the 6 is quite unique, but I wouldn't say it is a rarer version. Personal preference I would say.
Hi There great video. Looking at minute 2.30 i noticed that I have the left one, a 168.009/168.017 full gold but the crown seems not to be the correct one as it looks like the one of the .017 era, this is with more protrusions and thicker. Do you think the original (slimmer with less protrusions) was replaced? or where there some of them with different crown?
I have a problem with the broken crown for my constellation gold-plate, and when I took it to the repairman, he changed the mechanical and not for long the crown was broken again.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel the video was great. A big book with lots of pretty photos just on constellation collecting would be good though, especially if it's got information regarding, case numbers, movments, things to look out for collectibility, trivia etc. A nice reference book/coffee table read for collectors
I’m trying to get a model with the lume hands, but the only one they have available with the hand set I’m looking for, has Omega at 6. And it doesn’t come on the brick strap option. 😢
You can always visit to my website to view all the available pieces. www.omegaenthusiastltd.com You can also message me there if you have any questions related to the product that I have for sale. 80% of my clients are from the US. I am located in Canada.
Collectors say it is, but on some of their case back (coin edge version, 168.029), there is inscription stating the that the bezel is “gold filled” but this description I have only seen on the US market version of the 168.029 Ref. US market version has the “OXG” stamp on the movement’s balance bridge. The smooth gold bezel from what I know is solid gold.
Thanks for the info. I currently purchased the exact 168.019 steel version that is shown in this video but the the gold cap version. Do you have any idea what price i should ask for if i decide to sell it ?
hi mr omega enthusiast, do you know of a pink gold braclet for c shape constellation i have a c shape in solid gold that is more pink gold to me, i have it at the moment on a standard yellow brick bracelet but it doesnt seem to match well, the watch seems more pink/rose gold
Leave it alone. If he really wanted to remove the aging, only use a polishing cloth to wipe that layer of stain off. But leave it! It looks nice that way too.
Thank you so much for this video. Do you mind specifying which alternative bracelets will work with the C-shape case? I opted to buy a constellation without the 1040 bracelet because they are generally in such bad condition (for units sold under $1000.)
C-model came with a few different bracelets. Brick is the most commonly used for the solid steel or gold-capped version. The solid gold version is usually the mesh/Milanese type. But there is a less common version in which I lost the clasp record, but the endpiece number is 77. It looks more like the Seamaster 60 dive bracelet.
I need a source for end links (where the bracelet connects to the lugs) for my 1968 C Case gold plated brick bracelet. Does anyone know where to source it? Grateful for any help. Thx!
The crystal has a metal tension ring which add extra tightness against the case. If you install the watch with the correct crystal, water is not able to get inside.
Thank you so much for the informative video! Its really well done with the efforts of purchasing them. Was wondering Does all the 168.017 have the omega logo on the crystal? Also if you know which year did they start to change to the new crown? Thanks!
@@IsaacCheck It's perfectly fine to have a replacement crystal as long as it is one with the correct fit. Not to mention that the crystal ring has a deep step as well. Having a generic crystal on your watch won't affect its authenticity or value.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel thank you very much for the reassurance! I'm guessing this replacement has a deep step since everything seems to be functioning well. Even the power reserves is almost 50 hours!
@@IsaacCheck You're welcome. That's good to know. Usually, the incorrect step ring or one with a shallower step will affect the calendar feature's function. But in your case, everything is good. :-)
From what I understand, the dial has to be solid gold for the black strips to be actual onyx. Otherwise, on a regular dial the black strip is painted or made of rubber/plastic.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel they are used with white and black center lines and are now used where stick hands were used. Stick hands seldom can be reused
I recently found a watch very similar to this that was owned by my wife’s grandfather. He died awhile ago so we don’t know anything about the watch. It is a C shape Omega but it does not say “Constellation” or anything else at the bottom portion of the watch. It also doesn’t have an Omega logo and on the crown and the back of the watch is completely blank as well. It has the quick set date function and days “T Swiss made T” at the very bottom of the watch. I was starting to think it was a fake but I also found a piece of paper with it that had Omega and Tissot at the top and listed a bunch of Omega places where the watch could be serviced. Do you have any thoughts on what this watch may be? I plan to bring it to a watch repair shop to see what the movement looks like but I have not got around to it yet. Thanks!
You are welcome to visit my website's homepage, and near the bottom, there is a donate button where you can ask any questions unrelated to the products on the site. You can send the images of your watch as well, and I will be able to assist you.
I am really surprised, dear friend, how you possessed how much Omega watches! It is really surprising as well. Most of the people will be amazed at your mammoth collection of watches. Not ordinary, but, all the time the most costliest only "Omega" and "Omega" and "Omega." With good faith I eulogise you that "You are the true collector of watches in the truest sense."
Who could tell me what the engraving 2943/2954 SC (NON-MATCH) means on an Omega Constellation 18 k... caliber 504 from 1957?... It is this "non-Match" that intrigues me greatly Many thanks in advance !..
Thank you for putting this video together. I have a 168.017 with Cal. 561 and linen dial and it's one of my favorites. Love thr brick bracelet too, so comfortable to the wrist. You should create a reference book with all this knowledge.
Many thanks for the comment.
I should, and maybe by the time I am retired, I'll be able to publish it. haha
Does the linen dial only come in silver ? Or off white also?
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I’d buy that book! Even a pocket version 👏🏾
The first watch presented looks almost exactly like my C-Case Constellation, even down to the croco strap. But mine is from 1968 and has a cal. 564 movement. Such a beautiful timepiece.
I have the exact same watch at minute 4:55. My great uncle received this watch due his 30 years working for a company. He gave the watch to my grandfather who gave the watch to my father and yesterday he finally gave it to me. That watch survived a house robbery among all the things they stole many years ago from my dad.
I'm happy to know that I have the gold capped unpolished but overall the history that this watch has.
Great video! Thanks for all the information.
I love your thoroughness, accuracy and clarity! Thank you, I always learn a lot from you 😁
Happy to hear! 😃 👋
Thanks!
Many many thanks for your support!
Fantastic video, great information on the "C" never have fully understand the this model.
Well now you do sir! 😜
As always I learned so much from this video.
Glad to hear that. It makes my hard work meaningful
It’s cool to see the different design elements that the Globemaster took from these vintage constellations. Great video.
Absolutely! The modern Globemaster looks like two Gerald Genta designed Constellations (C model and the dog leg model) fused into one.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel The pie pan dial came from the dog leg. Then the case, fluted bezel, and hands came from the C case. Right?
@@theenavybluemonster Yes! That's right! Both are Gerard Genta design Constellations.
Relatively new to the vintage watches, but the C shape Constellation is one of the most beautiful designs. I wish the Globemaster was 36 mm.
@@georgiosyiannakou5537 I like it at 39. It has more of a dressy sports watch vibe.
I just picked up a 1969 14k solid gold 168.029 with linen gold tone dial. I've always loved the 60's and 70's Omegas. I have a 1972 DeVille 198.033 and a 1973 Constellation 198.076, both are F300hz tuning folk models. Both are Day/Date models, have been serviced, and run flawlessly. The 1972 was given to my Grandfather by Cook Electric in Chicago and they had his name added to the dial.
Nice! Thank you so much for sharing. Make sure to replace the battery with Renata brand. They are the safest for the tuning folk movements.
Just got a 168.027 and I'm loving it! Unfortunately it seems to have some problems with the quick date function, which doesn't work most of the time. I'll have to sort it out, any ideas?
Some of the teeth on the date disc is worn. In that matter, you’ll need to change it manually when you get to those date. Manually just means turning the hands every 24hrs for each date to change. The quick set date lever is too short to push the worn teeth. But the regular date driving wheel will have no issue.
You can watch this episode to understand how the quick set works: HOW TO PROPERLY USE THE QUICK SET DATE FEATURE ON YOUR VINTAGE WATCH WITHOUT DAMAGING IT
th-cam.com/video/vJkZfpZuETc/w-d-xo.html
I have a 1969 constellation 168.029. It's a Great watch. I had it serviced by my watchmaker who has an Omega parts account. He said the rotor axle and day/date disk were worn, plus the crown gasket was deteriorated, so I had those replaced with new service parts. the crown and day/date disks look ever so slightly different, but I feel it was worth the refresh especially since I would be wearing it a lot. (I still kept the original parts of course) By the way, always love the content on this channel.
I got nervous as I read through this message, but thank goodness you mentioned that all the old parts were still with you at the end. Phew.
Thanks for sharing, and enjoy your Connie C.
Top job! Learnt so much from this video. Thank you
Thanks for the video! I got a gold constellation "C" with only date. The back on my side doesnt have as detailed "observatory" like some other models that have a brick-like texture on them. What's the difference? Great video!
I believe that the solid gold version has a plain roof on its observatory emblem, the ones with the brick roof are the stainless and gold capped versions
@reyhanavivi594 thanks for clarification! Thought it was wear that made it like that. Glad that's not the case.
Thank you very much for this video. Very informative and you're doing a service to the watch community!
You’re most welcome 🙏
any information on the gold MEISTER variant of the 168.017? Also, what do the letters "SP" stand for after the model number? I have a model with 168.017 SP written on the case back.
Thanks for this video, I have two of these C-type beauties. Would you happen to know what buckles were typically used on the models with leather straps?
Hi, the C model came with a few different strap buckles depending on the year. One from 1964 will be different from one from 1969. But I would not complain about getting my hands on any genuine buckle. :-)
Thank for the video. I would like to know when will the prices on your website be posted . I like the 168.029 day date . And I like the omega logo on top but the omega logo above the 6 is interesting and had a Unique look is it more rare the omega symbol above the 6 o’clock marker? Thank you again for the video keep me posted on the prices
All pieces are now available at the site! The Omega word above the 6 is quite unique, but I wouldn't say it is a rarer version. Personal preference I would say.
Hi There great video. Looking at minute 2.30 i noticed that I have the left one, a 168.009/168.017 full gold but the crown seems not to be the correct one as it looks like the one of the .017 era, this is with more protrusions and thicker. Do you think the original (slimmer with less protrusions) was replaced? or where there some of them with different crown?
Very helpful video!
I have a problem with the broken crown for my constellation gold-plate, and when I took it to the repairman, he changed the mechanical and not for long the crown was broken again.
He must have done a poor job or you may have been winding your watch while on your wrist?
really would like a book on this stuff
The info provided in this video is not enough? haha
@@TimelessHistoryChannel the video was great. A big book with lots of pretty photos just on constellation collecting would be good though, especially if it's got information regarding, case numbers, movments, things to look out for collectibility, trivia etc.
A nice reference book/coffee table read for collectors
I’m trying to get a model with the lume hands, but the only one they have available with the hand set I’m looking for, has Omega at 6. And it doesn’t come on the brick strap option. 😢
Sorry about that. Just take your time. Don’t rush and the right piece will eventually appear
Really interesting, many thanks for sharing
Anytime! :)
Hi , can you please Talk about Ref: 168 053
I like your page about vintage omega watches if I want to buy one how do I contact you i am in Beaverton OR what state are you in?
You can always visit to my website to view all the available pieces. www.omegaenthusiastltd.com
You can also message me there if you have any questions related to the product that I have for sale.
80% of my clients are from the US. I am located in Canada.
3:34 what version is this one
It says in the video, 168.017. Smooth bezel date.
Is the bezel on the gold cap version real gold?
Collectors say it is, but on some of their case back (coin edge version, 168.029), there is inscription stating the that the bezel is “gold filled” but this description I have only seen on the US market version of the 168.029 Ref. US market version has the “OXG” stamp on the movement’s balance bridge. The smooth gold bezel from what I know is solid gold.
Thanks for the info. I currently purchased the exact 168.019 steel version that is shown in this video but the the gold cap version. Do you have any idea what price i should ask for if i decide to sell it ?
Is the madallion on the gold cap version real gold or is it gold on steel medallion?
Real gold. Thin layer glued and clipped on.
hi mr omega enthusiast, do you know of a pink gold braclet for c shape constellation i have a c shape in solid gold that is more pink gold to me, i have it at the moment on a standard yellow brick bracelet but it doesnt seem to match well, the watch seems more pink/rose gold
Sorry. But I do not sell bracelet. Try asking on the Omega forums.
@TimelessHistoryChannel I don't mean to buy, I mean do you know of its existence, a reference number?
@@roberttodd2414 Rose/pink gold bracelet exists for the C case. It should be the same reference as the steel version.
Is there anyway I can PM you I think I have a rare vintage omega and would greatly appreciate your opinion?
Great video!
My friend had an omega constellation, its back golden badge change to copper color seems oxidation, do you know why? Can it be redone or restoration?
Leave it alone. If he really wanted to remove the aging, only use a polishing cloth to wipe that layer of stain off. But leave it! It looks nice that way too.
Thank you so much for this video. Do you mind specifying which alternative bracelets will work with the C-shape case?
I opted to buy a constellation without the 1040 bracelet because they are generally in such bad condition (for units sold under $1000.)
C-model came with a few different bracelets. Brick is the most commonly used for the solid steel or gold-capped version. The solid gold version is usually the mesh/Milanese type. But there is a less common version in which I lost the clasp record, but the endpiece number is 77. It looks more like the Seamaster 60 dive bracelet.
If you can DM me on my Instagram account, I can send several images to show you what it looks like.
I need a source for end links (where the bracelet connects to the lugs) for my 1968 C Case gold plated brick bracelet. Does anyone know where to source it? Grateful for any help. Thx!
Probably better if you create a post on the Omega forums and ask there
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thank you, Sir.
what do you think is a good price for the 168.029?
Hi, i found a model with 751 caliber can you please tell me something about that movement? Many Thanks
th-cam.com/video/d7BgTl6RRkQ/w-d-xo.html
Watch that video. You’ll learn something about it. 751 is a Chronometer day date movement made for Constellation or Seamaster Chronometer models only.
plexiglas crystal ? and is it waterproof
The crystal has a metal tension ring which add extra tightness against the case. If you install the watch with the correct crystal, water is not able to get inside.
Thank you so much for the informative video! Its really well done with the efforts of purchasing them. Was wondering Does all the 168.017 have the omega logo on the crystal? Also if you know which year did they start to change to the new crown? Thanks!
Thank you for the comment. The original crystal that came with a 168.017 ref did have a signed crystal. I believe the crown changed in early 1966.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I see, that you so much for the info! That means mine is a replacement crystal as it does not have the logo on the centre.
@@IsaacCheck It's perfectly fine to have a replacement crystal as long as it is one with the correct fit. Not to mention that the crystal ring has a deep step as well. Having a generic crystal on your watch won't affect its authenticity or value.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel thank you very much for the reassurance! I'm guessing this replacement has a deep step since everything seems to be functioning well. Even the power reserves is almost 50 hours!
@@IsaacCheck You're welcome. That's good to know. Usually, the incorrect step ring or one with a shallower step will affect the calendar feature's function. But in your case, everything is good. :-)
are the indices painted or onyx inserts?
From what I understand, the dial has to be solid gold for the black strips to be actual onyx. Otherwise, on a regular dial the black strip is painted or made of rubber/plastic.
I have55 various c shaped models diff dials and hands, many dauphine
If I am correct. Dauphine were used for their earlier models - pre 1967
@@TimelessHistoryChannel they are used with white and black center lines and are now used where stick hands were used. Stick hands seldom can be reused
I recently found a watch very similar to this that was owned by my wife’s grandfather. He died awhile ago so we don’t know anything about the watch. It is a C shape Omega but it does not say “Constellation” or anything else at the bottom portion of the watch. It also doesn’t have an Omega logo and on the crown and the back of the watch is completely blank as well. It has the quick set date function and days “T Swiss made T” at the very bottom of the watch. I was starting to think it was a fake but I also found a piece of paper with it that had Omega and Tissot at the top and listed a bunch of Omega places where the watch could be serviced. Do you have any thoughts on what this watch may be? I plan to bring it to a watch repair shop to see what the movement looks like but I have not got around to it yet. Thanks!
You are welcome to visit my website's homepage, and near the bottom, there is a donate button where you can ask any questions unrelated to the products on the site. You can send the images of your watch as well, and I will be able to assist you.
Very nice watches
Glad you like them!
Why do many brick bracelets have 1507 stamped in buckle not 1040?
That is the clasp reference number. If I remember correctly, different market or year used a different buckle number.
Will you be selling watch straps soon?
Not anytime soon, unfortunately.
is that all gold version heavy?
The weight of that solid gold piece is mentioned in the video 😅
@@TimelessHistoryChannel its mine
If its your, shouldn't you already know how much it weights already? lol
Pls watchs prices should bi mentioned.
Another great and informative video. Please change the background music!
Thanks, will do! Still learning.
About how much would a vintage omega constellation be worth? How much did you pay for each one?
Excellent!
Thank you!
Great work. What about the Omega Constellation C with 565 caliber? It should exist too.
Caliber 565 is not a constellation movement. I’ve mentioned that in the past. If the movement is a 565, then the watch has been made up.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thank you, I missed this part in the previous videos. That is why this channel is so useful, great work, keep going !
I am really surprised, dear friend, how you possessed how much Omega watches! It is really surprising as well. Most of the people will be amazed at your mammoth collection of watches. Not ordinary, but, all the time the most costliest only "Omega" and "Omega" and "Omega."
With good faith I eulogise you that "You are the true collector of watches in the truest sense."
Omega @6oclock really does look more balanced. Pleasing to my eyes at least
I just picked up this exact model and it's gorgeous
Ditch the music, it sounds crazy using the same loop for 13.5 minutes.
Sorry about that.
nice but i think their seamaster is their best line
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I love Omega 😉
I think all Constellations should have a star on the dial. OMEGA at 6 + no star doesn't look right to me
I agreed, but you should see some of the other with plain case back too!
below feels wrong.
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@@TimelessHistoryChannel Sorry, I meant the Omega below the center just doesn't feel correct to me.
@@zachschlabach8928 Please feel free to explain. :-)
Who could tell me what the engraving 2943/2954 SC (NON-MATCH) means on an Omega Constellation 18 k... caliber 504 from 1957?...
It is this "non-Match" that intrigues me greatly
Many thanks in advance !..
Awesome video!
Glad you enjoyed it