What Prosperity Preachers Hide From You
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- We do not lose heart, but though our outer man is decaying, yet our inner man is being renewed day by day. For momentary, light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison, while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen; for the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.
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I grew up with the "health and wealth gospel" that promised me that if I followed God he would bless me and keep me safe. This was destroyed when I served God whole-heartedly and yet he took my oldest son in a stillbirth three years ago, and then my twin boys in preterm labor- miracle twins who were due on the same day I lost my son. My faith took the darkest turn in the deepest grief and for months I struggled to even LIKE God, let alone love him.Over a long time of darkness, God revealed to me that he didn't hate me- if he did, he never would have died for me, and after I internalized God's love demonstrated on the cross, the deconstruction of my faith started to turn into reconstruction. I can't believe I can say this now, it's been almost two years, but praise God that even in my worst moments of rage at God He never gave up on me, and is using those horrible situations to continue to purify my faith. I think God will let something physical die to awaken something spiritual because he is Spirit and his priorities are spiritual, unlike us physical human beings. As the to health and wealth gospel, I see this taught in every circle of the American church, wether liberal or conservative, and when I see it, I oppose it so fiercely because I know how it sets up people to get angry at God for not fulfilling promises He never made, but that ignorant pastors and American Christian media made for him. If we want to follow Jesus, we have to take up our cross and keep our eyes on eternity. One day I will see my three precious boys again.
Amen. This is beautiful
Such a sad but ultimately beautiful story, thank you for sharing. I didn't go through anything half as heartbreaking as you, but I also had a period of my life where everything went wrong and it caused me to reject God's love. The teaching that He somehow guarantees us a painless life can really be damaging. How thankful I am that He continued to pursue me.
I hope you are doing well.
Amen✝️❤️🙏
How beautifully spoken. Your testimony, of very painful events in your life and of where you are now, is Holy Spirit given. I have a similar testimony. He’s with us through the storms of this life, even when it doesn’t “feel” like it.🙏 God bless you sister.🫶
❤❤❤❤ Yes you definitely will.
Prosperity Preachers have Bastardized the ideals of Christianity in my home country of Nigeria. It’s something else.
Prosperity teachers and moslem persecution. May God have mercy on Nigeria
Not just Nigeria the whole of Africa
That's so tragic. But the Lord will always have a few people who don't compromise. Here in Sweden its either liberal theology and political correctness - or, it is prosperity teaching, false prophets, and false signs and wonders.
Many Christians have had to leave bad churches.
May God have mercy on both our nations.
I will likely never meet you in person on this side of Eternity, Mike, since I live in Australia. Yet in my heart you are a true brother because of Jesus. You are also the kind of friend I would choose if I had the privilege.
Thank you and God bless you always 😊
Same here!
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Thank you for sharing Gods truth. I'm so broken right now and need prayers family 😢
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Praying, Sara.
Prayers going up fam 🙏
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Not only will’ Prosperity preaching’ mess us up, but ANY false teaching leads to pain and frustration. Why? Because false teaching leads to false expectations…
Exactly!
That's because God doesn't make you happy. He doesn't come through for us. He doesn't actually answer prayers. That's why you're setting yourself up for a false reality if you actually believe he cares about you. Know that he doesn't, and gaslight yourself that he does. That's the ticket to heaven.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr This is why we must STOP viewing GOD as a vending machine…
@@emergebyal8054 the whole thing normalizes unhealthy and abusive behavior. It's really no wonder that Christians that really take it seriously can end up with abusive mindsets. You get a lot of practice defending this God and then you apply that to humans. The whole thing is just not good.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Seek Truth, not fairytales…
Romans 5:3-4 ESV - Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope,
I can't thank you enough for the gift that you bring through your videos. I grew up in a Pentecostal church, heavily framed by Evangelical and Prosperity Gospel teaching. I have struggled my entire life to reconcile what I was taught about God and therefore believed about Him and His character, with my lived experience and what I understood the Bible to say as I read it. Why didn't I receive the things I spoke and believed for...I must not have enough faith and that is blocking the blessing of God. Why didn't the person I prayed for get healed...I must have a hidden sin in my heart that is hindering the Spirit of God. Why are all of these unexpected expenses coming at once...it must be because I skipped tithing the mandatory 10% last week to pay one of those bills. Your teachings and wisdom have been indescribably encouraging!!!
I don’t know why you would care to speak “evangelical” in the same breath as “prosperity” they are diametrically opposed
@@airkami this is true. Every believer is called to be an evangelist.
@@airkami I don’t know why you would care to criticize a random stranger’s post who was simply trying to thank someone. But here we are. And to be clear, I said that my experience was influenced by those two things. I said nothing about out how similar they are or aren’t.
@@kbutcher84 Just a suggestion, anytime you feel attacked, probably the best response is to ignore it. Assume its a misunderstanding. If you feel you want to respond keep your response neutral, only clarify. ALso don't forget some people like to get others upset. don't let that happen to you. As a Christian we should try to strive in peace with all men, even when our emotions say otherwise.
@@benjaminwatt2436 The intent of my response was to be neutral. I understand tone is virtually impossible to convey clearly through text. To be clear, I don’t feel attacked. Nor was I upset. But I do believe my response was necessary.
But you may be entirely correct. And I do appreciate your perspective and your point. And I’m sure you are probably also correct that this is all a misunderstanding and everyone has the best of intentions.
i have suffered much, narcisistic cheat of a mother. abusive spouce, adhd, poverty sickness and an abusive child. all it has done is strengthen the faith i've been given
May the Lord strengthen you.for the days ahead, Sister. We may be tested this way, so that we can strengthen others, in their time of testing.
Praying for the body of Christ. 🙏🏻🐟🙌🏻🙏🏻🙌🏻
I love analogies, the slingshot analogy and the difference between character growth vs having more money are two gems.
This is the message the Church needs to return to. America is rapidly becoming a post-Christian culture and our faith will no longer be socially acceptable. The prosperity churches will see their numbers rapidly decline when just the title of "Christian" brings reproach. More importantly, though, have we in our more mainstream churches prepared the Body of Christ for these things? If all we teach is a God who wants to answer their prayers, meet their needs, help them with their problems, and bless them in ministry and life, then we haven't done enough. The gospel of suffering is needed to "vaccinate" our congregations against hard times to come.
Many American Christians see tribulation as a sign of the end times and assume Jesus will come back before it gets too bad. The truth, though, is that many of our brethren around the world already live in times of tribulation where suffering, persecution and even death are the normal Christian experience. Their faithfulness in the midst of a culture like that is both a shining example and a stinging criticism to us in our comfortable culture of religious freedom. Let's embrace the example of our suffering brothers and sisters and rise above the criticism by learning to suffer well for the glory of God!
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This message is SO AMAZING!! I share with others all the time about how our hardships in this life are preparation for building character and working towards what we will be responsible for and doing in eternity.
Thank you so much for this one Mike. God Bless you 🙏
The fundamental problem with the prosperity gospel isn't that they don't talk about suffering, it's that they don't tell you that your generosity is supposed to be aimed at the poor, not the church.
Paul says "you will reap what you sow" and echoes Micah. God says he will bless you if you're generous. But that generosity has to go towards those in need.
And what comes back isn't gold and silver.
ya i think you touched on what i find the prosperity gospel gets wrong, which is that yes you give away the material things, because they don't matter to us. they shouldn't matter to us. we don't serve that master. and what we get in return is obviously not the wordly riches the rest of the world so desires.
Tithing is to the ministry was started before the law of moses with Melchesidek, Sowing is in Mathew, Alms is still a different kind of giving it's to the poor and there is giving of first fruits each has it's own reward Jesse Duplantis has a good teaching on them all Tithing God rebukes the devour Sowing your free will offering 30, 60, or 100 fold , Alms God pays you back what you gave to the poor who couldn't pay you back first fruits you can give to the pastor or to the church your choice . I once received 1000 x what I gave it was my last $7 dollars and had no income coming in at the time. Not sure what that falls under unless it's sacrficial giving .Robin Bullock is a good teacher on giving also but Jesse Duplantis covers every kind of giving and explains each the best.
@@sheilasawyer8351 No
Excellent, Christ centered biblical teaching .
Thanks.
Thanks, Mike, for the slingshot analogy - The further back you are pulled, the higher up you are goiing to soar ..., the more trouble, the deeper the character, the closer the relationship with God, the greater the reward, if we let God into it. Also he does say to count it all joy, and in this you rejoice, and we glory in trouble - now! Do I do it? No, but like you say, I get a glimmer of it, and growing, may the Gardener continue to garden in my heart.
Amen Brother. I can often tell when the Lord has been at work in this manner, in someone's life. There is a humility and gratefulness there, that is so precious.
II Corinthians 4:17 is one of the verses that the Lord has been using in my walk since I was saved. It proves to me that though I might be experiencing things that confuse me, but they pale in comparison to God's surpassing Glory
Yes, pain, grief and groaning are integral to the life of a Christ follower. And so is joy, hope and peace of heart, through suffering.
Mike, I'm lifting you up in prayer. Thank you for your obedience and effort in this ministry. I have never listened to someone who practically and logically applies scripture as you do. You are a blessing to me and many others.
Excellent message, so glad you didn't downplay suffering so much as put it in perspective. This is a hard yet important message for me to receive.
Yes. Suffering is so hard, but so important in character formation.
May we all be strong in the Lord to the very end.
Groaning is very real! When my sister died I cried, but groaning was all that came outfrom deep within. It's not crying, it is beyond that. In that moment I understood that sentence in the bible and knew God is with me.
So good.
God is interested in making us more than conquerers, just like him. Roman’s 8
I needed to hear this today. I’ve been going through a lot. Thanks pastor Mike. Glory to god
God be with you, Brother. God is at work, and He doesn't abandon us. Blessed are those who have not seen Him, yet *trust* in Him.
I love the video game character leveling analogy and have used it myself. It seems that if you start feeling like you’ve attained a level of spiritual maturity, that you will level up. And at that new level, you find the things you’re up against are harder than anything you’ve faced before, driving us back to the Lord for strength and help.
Amen. And leveling up, cam also expose new weaknesses in us that God wants to deal with. In this way, our progress may be obscured to us, since our challenges grow alongside our character.
Please pray for me as spiritual warfare is intensifying in my home/family! May we hold to God and His Word and trust in His steadfast love, grace, and mercy! In the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit!!!
Praying now.
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I’d like to thank you Mike for all your Godly knowledge and truth that you so boldly speak. May God bless you in your love for Him.
I shared a sermon recently entitled 'A Godly Response to Suffering' and it was really about what God has said about believers suffering. The sermon really came from indignation I have felt in the last three years by ppl around me buying into prosperity teacher's misleading ideas about suffering.
Thanks Pastor Mike for the sound teaching.
Thanks from Germany!
VERY encouraging message!!!! Thanks
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Thank you Jesus 🙌🏽All Glory to you oh Lord
Love your teachings from the Bible. Love you so much Pastor Winger you are such a blessing to me. Many blessings Love sister Liza ❤
Thank you pastor For your wise words. As a person who suffers daily with chronic pain, I truly get what you are saying. This is a inspring reminder of suffering and groaning and of whats is to come. As a nature lover I also see the groaning in nature.Praise be to Yeshua Jesus for His ultimate suffering for me on the cross. 🙌
Amen, totally agree.
Amen, brother Mike. This may be the most relevant teaching to the American church in this day and time. God bless you.
When I consider my suffering alongside that of the Christian throughout the world and history, I find this teaching is what I need in order to explain it (and to see that mine is very small in comparison, though that's not very emotionally helpful all the time). But, the implications are this (are they not?): there is no reasonable expectation of any period of life to be without suffering in this world, in this life. There's only an expectation of freedom from suffering in heaven, right? And it's so amazing there, we're utterly unconcerned by what we experienced here?
I’ve never heard a prosperity preacher explain why the historical majority of believers lived in peasant-level poverty.
so well explained. i have read that verse on light and momentary troubles and you helped me to understand that verse more. thank you and praise God.
These are the messages we need! Thank you pastor Mike 🙏✝️
Thanks Mike. God bless you for being the lifter of my soul today.
Wow, the slingshot analogy was just exceptional. May God bless you and your family for all of your days, Pastor Mike. You are an amazing ally, and I am blessed through your videos every single day. How great is our God that through a single man he touches the lives of hundreds of thousands. Praise the almighty Father for His innumerable gifts to us, Mike among them.
This is what keeps me going, knowing that what's to come is so much more than I can imagine compared to the trials I experience. I know that the LORD will keep me until His purpose for me and in me is done on this earth.
Mike, you always point me to reason and help me to get “me” out of the way. I love listening to you, scripture and understand what my mind sometimes just doesn’t get it. God Bless.
Thank you for your obedience, Mike. This is a confirmation of everything the Lord has been sharing with me for the past 48 hours, as I grumbled in my spirit about various trials. Sometimes, we don't even realize that we have believed the lie of prosperity even though we say we stand against it. Suffering for the Christian is one of the ways that we become more like Christ. That alone is reason to give God praise with joy inexpressible.
Pastor Mike, I love your teaching; however, the Apostle Paul is giving us a solid foundation in terms of how we should view suffering. Moreover, Paul is teaching from his own experiences concerning suffering. Can we learn from Paul, off course!! The average Christian is not in chains or bound to a prison. It is interesting to me how we choose what to believe when it comes to the word of God.. There are some people that don’t believe in healing, prosperity etc, Does that make God’s word of no effect? God’s word is filled with answers for every problem we faced. I am glad that millions, including myself have experienced the power of God’s word. People of God do not loose hope in God! Lastly, in our lifetime, we are subject to experience a lot of unanswered questions, sudden death etc, but we can always turn to this text (among many for comfort). Our job is to Stay in Faith and continue to trust God! Love you.
I wish more black churches would see this and study the Bible to better encourage others when going through suffering.
I attended one black church for about a year, and in a college course studied about what they teach their members. I grieve for them, because there is so little truth being put forth in those congregations.
All black churches are not teaching a false doctrine. In fact, as a black pastor, I believe Pastor Mike teaching is spot on concerning the text. However, I believe that God’s intention for our life is good, which includes healing and prosperity.
Thank you Mike
Dear Pastor Mike, this is unadultered truth. This is why because of this false gospel flattering the flesh producing cowards and easy going children walking without the fear of the Lord will fall away at the first little persecution. Their love for Christ has already waxed cold following this gospel of hyper grace keeping them thirsting for earthly things allowing them to stay on the broad path of sin. Shalom from Switzerland
I’m a Word of Faith believer. It has saved my life. My life isn’t perfect and I’ve gone through and dealt with very serious issues. But if I hadn’t been Word of Faith, I guarantee you I would be dead.
Dear friend we should be nothing more or less than Jesus believers - not believing in doctrines made by man - He is our Lord and Master - and He is described all throughout the Holy Scriptures. 1 Corinthians 3:4-11 NIV For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere human beings? What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe-as the Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow.
I have severe disabilities-spinal damage,heart blockage,COPD,lung tumor(just learned) I was a smoker, drug addict, adulterer, liar and more. I asked God to come into my heart 3 years ago. If I wouldn’t have gotten so sick I would have never taken time to study and pray everyday. I see my illness as a blessing. That’s what it took for me to change my ways. One day all my pain will be gone.
I’m so glad you got saved and that you are growing through your pain. God is faithful.
Constant pain? I've heard this can be healed by Jesus
Wow this word is for you. I will pray that the Lord will strengthen you and your spirit man will bloom. Know always this earthly suffering is making you closer to Jesus. I pray for grace for you.
Thank God for His mercy - keep looking to Him.
Glad you found Jesus, but that sickness is not from God. He is a good father, has no joy in your suffering
Great encouragement, Mike. Thank you for sharing. 🌞
That was awesome, Mike! I love how you get so excited! It's something we could never in our flesh comprehend, the glory that lies ahead, AND we get to be with our precious Lord and Savior! I can't......👍🙏♥️✝️
I love you Pastor Mike and team!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank u Mike.needed to hear this. Because whilst I experience this on every level every year, And how alone I am feeling because of it, Gives me peace knowing that this is what is for our Lord, lean not on our understanding.
Thank you Pastor Mike. How could we not be affilicted in this sin-filled world. Your scriptures and explanation is so helpful. My heart is hopeful. My BSF leader said to me, we have to go thru the process before we get to His promise. Amen.
Thank you Mike Winger! You're the absolute best Bible teacher on YT. Thank you for your heart in this service to us all
This message is coming to me at a very much needed time. I thank God for this revelation that was brought through you. God bless you!
As children learn to see good or evil in experiences and what is said, we have a very important watch to make to beware if being deceived. This is what has occurred on a world wide scale. One may even view it prophetic history being foretold in the deep recesses of biblical warnings of the coming trials we face. May God help you and me also.
I’m so thankful for sound doctrine. I’ve suffered with back issues for 53 years and I’m tired of hearing well-meaning sisters telling me that I’m already healed. I know that one day I will be whole when Jesus comes again or when I enter into heaven. Why can’t people accept that in this world we may not be healed? I’ve prayed, I’ve had brothers and sisters pray, but God did not heal me. I can live with this, but the folks in my church can’t accept it. I can live with my pain knowing that God is working in and through me in spite of my pain. I still contribute to my church and my community. Good enough for me!
I think you may be selling yourself, your faith, and God, short.
"1Praise the Lord, my soul;
all my inmost being, praise his holy name.
2Praise the Lord, my soul,
and forget not all his benefits-
3who forgives all your sins
and heals all your diseases,
4who redeems your life from the pit
and crowns you with love and compassion,
5who satisfies your desires with good things
so that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s." (Psalm 103:1-5)
Do you believe God forgives all your sins? Do you believe He redeems your life from the pit? Do you believe He crowns you with love and compassion? Then why do you NOT believe He will heal all your diseases? Why are you accepting that in this world you won't be healed? Is that faith? God can and will work in and through us in spite of our pain - He's doing that for me as well - but it doesn't last for a lifetime, unless you allow it to. Faith is for this lifetime, because after we die and go to be with the Lord, we won't need faith any more. Trials and suffering tests and perfects our faith, but if we do nothing but suffer, has our faith been refined or perfected?
"10And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast."
(1 Pet 5:10)
Don't make up mindsets or beliefs to cover for a lack of faith (yes, I said it).
@@jeffschlueter1660 I’ve walked with the Lord for 42 years. Don’t you dare tell me I lack faith. Name it, claim it is not scriptural
@@Valdal98 Where did I say anything about name it - claim it? Everything I said and all you can do is scold me about what I said about your faith? Did you even look at the scriptures I gave you? No response to that? Oh, BTW, I've walked with the Lord as long as you have.
@@jeffschlueter1660 I’ve read them, studied them and know them and you did attack my faith. God never promised that every one will be healed this side of heaven. That, I believe, is twisting scriptures. Did you not hear a word of Mike’s teaching?
if you are holding onto any unforgiveness it could be hindering your healing
Pastor Mike I thank you so much for this teaching. I just wanted to leave a comment that I use portions from this teaching in my sermon and forgot to cite you publicly because I skipped over that transitional point in my message. But I thank you for your help that it lended to my message on Sunday
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Bro, you're a mighty man.
Great job my hillbilly friend.
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@@akagrace91 just a joke
@11:20 This is LDS theology Pastor and a very good analogy for why Paul taught those same Corinthians that there were different degrees of glory. (IE a third heaven)
The persecution and works based suffering to build God like character is great stuff...but it can't be a requirement for salvation without the slingshot.
Please pray for me as a navigate leaving a word of faith church and the push pack I’m about to get.
Lifting you in prayer now Noelle- praying the Lord will strengthen you as you follow His truth 🙏🙏
I think I love and understand God as much as I can in this life so far. I've suffered much pain in my life and lost loved ones. I think I cannot be angry with God until I have suffered for him as much as he has suffered for me. Suffering is a learning experience. So I say thank you God for loving me.
The scripture says that....MANY ARE THE AFFLICTIONS OF THE RIGHTEOUS....BUT THE LORD DELIVERETH THEM FROM THEM ALL!
That was awesome !
👍❤️🙏 ....Amen! May it glorify my Creator, God , Heavenly Father and Savior Jesus Christ.
I've never heard someone talk about how a person's character is eternal before.
I'm not sure it's correct. The Bible says we will be like Christ; _I think_ that means our characters will be perfected by Him, and perfect in Him, regardless of what our characters were like on earth. But we will have to wait and see, I guess.
Great word--TY so much for bringing balance to YT Christian preaching and so much common sense with respect for the whole counsel of God!!
This message about suffering was the very message I needed today. Thank you❤
Comfort and joy. Learning to endure for my whole life
I guess I have joy if God gets something out of my suffering
I so appreciate your profound revelations to us from Scripture. Thank you! Janet Brown :)
Amen❤️
Amen
God bless you Mike. Enjoying your videos for years and the Holy Spirit has blessed you to always be renewing minds!!
Wow I need it this .
Yes, I feel I’ve been given to ☠️.
I’m sure many others believers feel the same 😓
You brought these scriptures to life for me. Thank you so much!
A few times lately, there have been breath taking revelations, not outside of spiritual knowledge! But I believe Holy Spirit given wisdom! As you gave scripture my mind and heart grasped the truth, Give thanks in all circumstances for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus” (1 Thessalonians 5:18). James, the brother of our Lord, agreed, “Consider it pure joy… whenever you face trials of many kinds” (James 1:2). Other versus support this truth! Thank you for your sincerity and willingness to tell us what we might not want to hear!
Perfect timing for a good word
I remember going to Peru to do mission work. Peru like many SA countries has a big problem with prosperity gospel pastors. Most of the continant has a huge population in poverty and posperity gospel is an easy gimmick to sell to those in need. A missionary i was with took me to a nicer section of the town we were in and showed me a house. it was modest by American standards, but he explained, it was a new home a preacher had built for himself. In a town where almost all his congregetion lived in tiny one room houses, with dirt roads, he was living in luxury. assureing them God wanted them to have wealth if only they would support him in faith. I can't help but look at these wolf in sheep's clothing with disgust when i think how they take advantage of "the least of these"
We all need prosperity. Watching Joel Osteen back in high school greatly shifted my grades from E to A.
I was going through depression but his message delivered me from the spirit behind depression.
There are many people who would never have known Christ if it wasn't for the prosperity preachers.
The devil's aim is to divide and conquer. A young believer who has been following Joel Osteen might be confused after listening to such divisional messages.
AMEN Jesus wants His church united a house divided can not stand He did not come to beat up His Bride . He wants us to be united as He and the father and holy spirit are united what God has put together let no one put asunder husbands and wives are one as the trinity is one It is not our job to judge fellow believers we are to judge ourselves lest we be judged by the one true judge just as the Holy Spirit convicts us and calls us to repentance he will do the same for all his servants . This guy has obviously never listened to any prosperity preachers because all the things he said they won't tell you i can't think of a single one who didn't teach about those things the hardships and persecution etc. We all need to unite with each other in love as the whole body of Christ no missing arms or legs coming together to unite in love to our head the Lord Jesus
@@sheilasawyer8351 it is so sad that one can cut two seconds clip of someone's summon then demonize them. Millions of people who could be in the world have been saved by the so called prosperity preachers.
We should thank God at least they are saved from hell. At least they are saved and will go to heaven.
Demonizing "prosperity preachers" is like trying to demonize preachers who cannot perform miracles, signs and wonders since they haven't grown to that level.
This division hurts 🤕
When coming to Christ for the first time. These exposed videos really messed me up, till I back slid for two years cause I wasn't sure who to follow. I thank God for the level of maturity I now have.
But I pity young believers who are trying to seek God in the midst of expose videos that are tarnishing the ministries of people who brought them to Christ.
I agree with you but not totally. There are people who have raised their own selves up on social media who are demonizing leaders in the body of Christ. But there are some people who in the body that have been called to correctly address the abuses and error. Those are the ones who are doctrinal in their approach in love because of Love for the body of Christ. It is vey painful at times
I'm proud to be a Wingaling. ❤
Never mind that you remind me of my nephew ... your teaching is always good, and biblically sound. I enjoy listening to you. God bless!
Thank you for this. I definitely needed this reminder today.
I went on a short missions trip to a closed Indian reservation. They hired this traveling pastor to preach for a 1/2 hour. He was a prosperity preacher. The message of financial wellness he was telling to actual people in poverty and bleak alcoholism was disturbing to me, even though at that point I hadn’t even heard prosperity preaching before.
Thank you so much Mike for this teaching.
Thank you for describing this. I needed to hear this and wow, what a message to think on.
I'm incredibly grateful that this is a topic you discussed today, I GREATLY needed it 💜 Thanks Mike 💜
Amen! Thank you for sharing the insight given you about these passages. Beautiful and clearly stated. Love the slingshot simile.
Absolutely superb and articulate presentation. Thank you so much, Mr. W!
I’m keeping prayers for you and your family Sara🙏
Great teaching! Many have believed the lie that God wants to protect us from all pain, trials, and persecution.
How about any protection? I can't recall any for most of my life
Excellently said Pastor Mike! Bravo!
Pastor Mike talking about gaming. Did not expect that on my 2024 bingo card 😛
😂shoulda been around in like.. 2007
great video mike! Praise God.
Amen! As Jesus said in Luke 6:22-23,
"Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven."
Suffering also prepares us to empathize with others who suffer, and to be able to help them get through their suffering as well. Suffering also gives us a small taste of what Jesus went through for us. Suffering also reminds us of how horrific and utterly evil sin is, for suffering is the result of sin (sometimes our own, sometimes others today, sometimes others in the past, and certainly of Adam and Eve since it resulted in the curse on creation). Suffering tests our faith, to ensure it is genuine (e.g. Job), and gives us a platform from which to shine and show our faith -- for the world complains bitterly when they suffer, and plays the victim; we can love and praise God amidst the suffering, and so show the world that God is real, our faith is real, true Christianity is different and real. "No pain, no gain" -- there is GREAT gain in suffering if you are a believer in Christ! God WILL bring good from it -- Romans 8:28.
Such an important message!!!
Thanks for this. I'm also glad to see that I'm not the only person who learned a life lesson from video games about hardship and struggles being the way we level up and become stronger.
We were never promised an easy life here on Earth!
No, but that doesn't mean God wants ppl to live in poverty either.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 In the ultimate sense, sure, God doesn't want us to be poor. Our eternal destiny is pure awesomeness, no poverty there. But if you're trying to claim that no Christian is poor here on Earth by the will of God, then you would be wrong.
I have listened to a lot of prosperity preachers all of them have said there will be hardships etcall the things - that you claim they don't tell you also Jesus himself said he caim to prosper us as our souls prosper -- The Holy Spirit will deal with the servants of God (not our job) our job is to go into the world and make desciples spread the word sow seeds