Which Base Should you ACTUALLY Choose for Infinity or Insight - Diablo 2 Resurrected

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  • @SawyerSGN
    @SawyerSGN ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The best Infinity base is a Mancatcher. Here's why!
    A Colossus Voulge merc has an 8-frame Jab at baseline, and the Mancatcher merc has a 6-frame Jab at baseline, making the Mancatcher attack around 33% faster.
    When given an additional +35% IAS through the Helmet (Andariel's Visage socketed with an IAS Jewel) the Colossus Voulge merc reaches a 6-frame Jab, and the Mancatcher merc reaches a 5-frame Jab, making the Mancatcher 20% faster overall.
    With the same +35% IAS headgear, cursed by Decrepify, the Colossus Voulge merc will have a 10.5 frame Jab, and the Mancatcher merc will have a 7.5 frame Jab, making Mancatcher 40% faster.
    Without the headgear, cursed by Decrepify, the Colossus Voulge merc will have an 18-frame Jab, and the Mancatcher merc will have a 10.5 frame Jab, making Mancatcher just over 71% faster.
    You may not notice 20% more frequent Crushing Blow procs under normal conditions, but you will definitely notice the 40% more when cursed by Decrepify.

    • @brainwasher9876
      @brainwasher9876 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

    • @MrMichaelEsser
      @MrMichaelEsser 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro, my Assassin slaughters everything including ubers before your merc can even hit!

    • @fabiozonatto2554
      @fabiozonatto2554 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@MrMichaelEsser...so what? What this have to do with the subject?

    • @diosdadojrlubiano7674
      @diosdadojrlubiano7674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@MrMichaelEsser nobody gives a sht

    • @jesseroberts1041
      @jesseroberts1041 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I want my Paladin to use an infinity as his main weapon lolol. I’ll have to use a mancatcher :D thanks for the breakdown!

  • @TravisH-nm9fy
    @TravisH-nm9fy ปีที่แล้ว +31

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    • @warmist8197
      @warmist8197 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    • @piotrwillow6440
      @piotrwillow6440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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      @vicentiupredescu7205 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

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    • @Derzull2468
      @Derzull2468 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a bald statement and I'm all for it.

  • @Hagelnot
    @Hagelnot ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I made my first Infinity in a Stygian Pike, yes you read that right.
    Some guy in trade recommended me, I said you are crazy, but he showed me his Infinity and it was really in that pike. He further said it's only one frame behind Mancatcher.
    So I looked at the frames in all bases on maxroll and compared it with the dmg. I am aware that the IAS calculation is not too precise on there.
    But for what I was seeing, that guy was right. So, Stygian Pike it is.

    • @kanuks69
      @kanuks69 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, if i remember well, Stygian Pikes have the exact same speed and damage as Great Poleaxes. So im not sure why Phil didn't include them as a good base to make infinity in since he did include Great Poleaxes.

    • @SawyerSGN
      @SawyerSGN ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Using Stygian Pike for Infinity over a Colossus Voulge allows you to forego socketing your Andariel's Visage with an IAS jewel in order to hit the 6-frame Jab breakpoint, at the cost of raw base damage. The Stygian Pike only requires +20% IAS whereas the CV requires +35% IAS for a 6-frame Jab, meaning the helmet's innate +20% IAS alone is enough, and you can socket a Ral or something more useful into it, rather than the IAS jewel.... however, the only rationale (in my humble opinion) for using a base other than Mancatcher is if your goal is to have the highest possible raw damage number, to help your merc one-shot monsters with small health pools, in which case you'd choose the Colossus Voulge, but for every Unique monster or boss you should try to proc Crushing Blow as frequently as possible, in which case you should choose neither the Stygian Pike nor the Colossus Voulge- for that you'd choose the Mancatcher. The Mancatcher actually has a 6-frame Jab at baseline, and reaches a 5-frame Jab at +26% IAS. You can reach a 4.5-frame Jab (fastest possible with Infinity) by using Treachery for the chest piece. So in the best case scenario, Mancatcher can net you between 20-33% more Crushing Blow (at 5-frames and 4.5-frames respectively), and when your Merc is cursed with Decrepify or slowed by cold, that percentage is even higher.
      So yeah Stygian Pike and CV are only 1 or 1.5 frames slower than the Mancatcher, but when you're talking about a 6 frame attack versus a 4.5 frame attack, that's a 33% increase in DPS. Frames don't correlate linearly to DPS. Each frame lower gives you multiplicatively more DPS. The difference between a 2-frame attack and a 1-frame attack is +100% DPS. The difference between a 3-frame attack and a 2-frame attack is +50% DPS, 4/3 is +33%, 5/4 is +25%, 6/5 is +20%, and so the trend goes on.

    • @Hagelnot
      @Hagelnot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SawyerSGN thanks for the clarification!
      next one is planned in mancatcher anyway :)

  • @smalps-gaming
    @smalps-gaming ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Good info phil! I like eth Thresher for insight. Like you mentioned the merc's job is to survive only. They are not the dmg dealer in your end builds. So for me, the fastest base, means the more leech, and the more survival. For Infinity on the merc. I like eth mancatcher for the same reason. Fastest base, more CB chances, and the most leech. Also lower requirements. Cheers!

    • @asbjrnfossmo1589
      @asbjrnfossmo1589 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the CB damage leech? I was under the impression that CB is a direct modification to target life, and isn't even counted as "damage", although it will take positive physical resists into the equation.

    • @smalps-gaming
      @smalps-gaming ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asbjrnfossmo1589 CB is calculated before dmg is applied. So I am under the impression, that CB happens, then you would deal normal dmg, thus being able leech still on a CB hit.

    • @asbjrnfossmo1589
      @asbjrnfossmo1589 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smalps-gaming Yes, but the CB part shouldn't leech. Just the damage part, which for pure leech purpose would suggest to get the highest DPS, not the fastest CB application.

    • @smalps-gaming
      @smalps-gaming ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asbjrnfossmo1589 yes. But I think the point is you are not going to drop Infinity. Insight no problem.

  • @christiankoll1528
    @christiankoll1528 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job, I've been having this debate/argument for years, and I'm glad someone with a little clout has finally put it to rest. Best base? The first one you find. Then, the first elite one your merc can use.

  • @Abber64
    @Abber64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    its a year after, but the reason that you want high damage is that the faster the Merc can kill stuff, the more he will stay alive. The idea is not for him to help kill enemies, but rather for him to stay alive and keep your aura, and the first goal of gearing your merc is survivability. The idea here of course is high damage and fast attack speed with LOH

  • @robertg420
    @robertg420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Playing D2 for the first time, running a javazon and my first 4 socket polearm dropped last night (scythe). Made it into an insight with 0 hesitation!

    • @SawyerSGN
      @SawyerSGN ปีที่แล้ว +1

      congrats! funnily enough, a 4-os Scythe is also the best base for a self-wielding Infinity Sorceress due it having the lowest possible requirements!

    • @shaquileoatmeal7365
      @shaquileoatmeal7365 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scythes are kind of weak, you want a Thresher for insight

    • @robertg420
      @robertg420 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SawyerSGN back to playing D2R but going offline SSF this time. fingers crossed for that elusive 4os ethereal scythe for an infinity self wield

  • @tamiranirwan9966
    @tamiranirwan9966 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like how you compare the all the different possible bases for insight, infinity and obedience. I absolutely agree about everything you say, to use whatever you have for insight, and to get mancatcher for later.

  • @rasmuskjaerpoulsen
    @rasmuskjaerpoulsen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:05 a mercenary never gets enough strenght by himself to reach 210. He has 205str at lvl 905.
    Which means CV can only be used with some sort of str gear

    • @Parasmunt
      @Parasmunt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If he really must use it then Griswold armor is good for the 60s to 80s.

    • @hjf3022
      @hjf3022 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If it is ethereal then it only requires 200 str.

  • @WaveOfBabies
    @WaveOfBabies ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Lore of the Ogre Axe/Ogre Maul is probably my favorite thing from any D2 Streamer/TH-camr

  • @loccolock5358
    @loccolock5358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a differences between the pole axes/spears
    Each effect the game play very slightly.
    Where it can effects the players actions is on gold / potions / and having to reset your mercenary position.
    Each weapon base will change the way the Mercenary will deal damage and with the combination of Life leach and the variations of attack speeds. This is what effects what makes the decision what is the best weapon to choose for the Runeword Infinity.
    The Over all Experience will be the same, if you are just looking for the Stats from the Runeword. then you don't need to worry about the Weapon base other then the stats required to use it, but if you want to not have issues with the gold/potions/resetting player position then you want to get from the list below.
    Sustain for a Mercenary is based on Damage Dealt, Life Leach % and Attacks Speed.
    What Combination makes the choice matter for the Weapon base. Damage dealt is important (Ethereal), and the Min Damage Value (Better Averages). The Attack Speed of the Base Item Effects the number of attacks the Merc Jabs Spell(So faster "can be" better).
    This is why understanding Point Breaks for the Merc is more important, example being imgur.com/SDI5f9H but you can google to see other all the options out there.
    The actual damage output to the over all monsters base isn't really the problem or important in this situation, it's only a small factor. Sure, you can be optimized but if your Merc is having issues surviving, this means the attack speed isn't high enough so the mercenary can sustain itself in dense packs or whenever it is soloing mobs whenever lets say has amp damage effect on him. For sustain the Three best options for there survival is the Thresher/ Giant Thresher / Manchater.

  • @jeezybaby43
    @jeezybaby43 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t think it really matters in the end. Only for complete min maxers

  • @galdersrontgorrth
    @galdersrontgorrth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you ever play competitively, then your merc's crushing blow trigger frequency does very much matter. especially if you want to help someone reach level 99 first in ladder mode (or if you are the one competing). if you need to prepare players 8 diablo in under 30 seconds (or kill him as fast as possible) and your group is doing 500+ baalruns a day, then even a few seconds less due to a good merc setup saves a ton of time per day.
    if you play in singleplayer or just casually, then nothing really matters. do as you like and enjoy the game.
    btw in my experience in the european realm most people prefer the giant thresher over the regular one due to more consistent damage (the thresher's min dmg is less than 10 % of the max dmg). but seeing how it's a tc 87 item, it's very rare to get one eth 4 sox in early ladder. so most people just go with the regular thresher as a sub.

    • @PAwader
      @PAwader ปีที่แล้ว

      Who the hell plays pvm "competitively"?

    • @galdersrontgorrth
      @galdersrontgorrth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PAwader who the hell doesn't?? what's the point of ladder play if you're not competing for the first 99 of the season???

  • @maximos905
    @maximos905 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's good to have multiple Insights at different level requirements

    • @edk3115
      @edk3115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always like having a few extra to hand out. A lot of people play aren't as intense. Having a noneth scythe with insight that you can give your buddy at lvl 27 is amazing. You can hear the "wow I couldn't believe this would affect me that much" once they run shit solo.

    • @Vagitarian01
      @Vagitarian01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Insight is 27 minimum requirement, that puts you in exceptional bases already. Elite bases start in the 40's, but the str is where you run into issue.

  • @johnjackson2349
    @johnjackson2349 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The differences are negligible at best, colossus voulge is the only one to watch out for as an eth base has 200 str requirement and takes emilio a while to hit that u less using andariels or g face with strength on them

  • @mr.t993
    @mr.t993 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to disagree on this one. I am playing a Summoner/CE Necro and i happen to have 2 different kinds of Infinity. The Problem with the necro is always killing those first monsters for my army and also killing bosses after the summons are gone. The mancatcher infinity is so much faster with this after you hit that last breakpoint. (I am using Andy+Treachery+Fanatism) This faster attack creates a stun-lock on the opponent. Without that stunlock the merc dies way more often. So its not only noticable but a significant upgrade for me.

    • @christiankoll1528
      @christiankoll1528 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you tried clay golem + decrepify with bosses? It's a more effective "stunlock" than the merc. Also in my experience the fastest way to kill bosses with a summoner is by reviving monsters with crushing blow, way more effective than relying on the merc. It's a little annoying to go get them, but they'll kill Baal/Diablo before they can wipe your minions. It's the only way I know of for a necro to do ubers.

    • @PAwader
      @PAwader ปีที่แล้ว

      Your first mistake is you're playing summon Necro

    • @christiankoll1528
      @christiankoll1528 ปีที่แล้ว

      @josephs2937 lol, yeah. But to be fair, if you've been playing this since you were a kid, chances are you've played most builds by this point. And the ones you haven't dictate your ladder picks(at least for myself and many bnet players). Can't judge a man by what he's currently rolling.

    • @SawyerSGN
      @SawyerSGN ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure an Eth Tomb Reaver is the best for getting that first kill, or Eth Reaper's Toll if you don't want to cast Decrep. Infinity only helps half the damage from CE (the fire part, not the physical) so I don't think it's really necessary for a Summon Necro.

  • @MikeyStreet314
    @MikeyStreet314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent points made! Just get whatever you can at the time and use it for an insight. The runes are extremely cheap. If you find something better remake it… For infinity go for ethereal, all that matters. I found an ethereal stigian pike with some ED on it, brought it to Larz for guaranteed 4OS and the thing bangs with over 1K damage. No need to be paying HR’s for mercenary weapon bases. I could not agree more !

  • @LetsPlayBojangles
    @LetsPlayBojangles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always aim for the fastest attacking option to keep my merc ALIVE. The faster he can pop back from a hit and get life steal going the more survivable he feels.
    FHR frames + IAS frames = total time between life steal hits. Having Some source of FHR and using a thresher/ Mancatcher keeps my merc alive better than anything if he starts getting mobbed, especially while chilled or decrepified. His aura = my dps, not his actual damage output
    The difference between a CV and mancatcher while decrepified or chilled can be over a dozen frames.

  • @IcarusHollow
    @IcarusHollow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i actually started an offline character last week and have been using an eth great poleaxe for my insight, but didnt think i could use it for my infinity. I've been grinding for 2 days looking for an eth thresher or giant thresher. I'm gonna hold out for a mancatcher now since i've gotten a few extra HRs in the process but will likely just use my insight great pole if i get too impatient. good looks, I always just presumed the two threshers were what you wanted due to those being what everyone sought in trade forums.

  • @jasensantos209
    @jasensantos209 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for clearing this up Phil. I never understood these arguments on forums regarding this exact issue. In my opinion, any ethereal base gets the job done. If I’m gonna use a colossus vulge, I always make sure that I have andariels helm lined up for my merc for that strength bonus.
    Despite my opinion, I definitely take advantage of finding great poleaxes, giant threshers in the trade market. People will pay absurd amounts for those 2 especially if they have any ED on them.

  • @yan-amar
    @yan-amar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a sup. ethereal mancatcher with +14%ED sitting in my GoMule stash, and finally found the necessary runes :)

  • @loren11111
    @loren11111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best advice here is to make insight in whatever you have. If you're one of the mortals you won't be finding all those bases to get to choose from :D
    Not even getting into infinity, which is out of reach for most of us XD

  • @endersblade
    @endersblade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always use Threshers, because Scythes are cool

  • @Shodanrua
    @Shodanrua ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cryptic axe is best overall

    • @SawyerSGN
      @SawyerSGN ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not if you're trying to proc Crushing Blow as often as possible. The king of CB is the Mancatcher by about 20-33% depending on whether you're hitting a 5-frame or a 4.5-frame Jab. CA and CV are only at a 6-frame Jab at +35% IAS. CA and CV should be chosen if you want a Merc that is more capable of killing smaller, non-boss monsters, but if your merc is doing that for you then you're not built properly for grinding.

    • @Shodanrua
      @Shodanrua ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SawyerSGN I said overall, i agree that the mancatcher procs CB faster, but with the cryptic axe my merc slays everything faster still, i cant think of a better use for mancatcher than maybe baal?

  • @namelessx2963
    @namelessx2963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet video Phil. The real answer for Insight is.. in a 4 socket bow 😂

  • @Roadsurfer2k11
    @Roadsurfer2k11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've read to use whatever one rolled the highest mediation aura. So I've charsi'd the +12's and kept the 14 and 15s.
    Also I have 3 insights in stash, a Bill which I think is guaranteed 4 socket max with socket quest. A partizan, and finally a CV. That way the low level merc accesses insight.
    My cv non eth does over 2k dmg and with barb buff, hits 3k. I use it as my primary with a helm that gives +27 str. At lower level, I used a chest armor with 2 open sockets and put str gems in to give +35 str

  • @serioushex3893
    @serioushex3893 ปีที่แล้ว

    the only really big thing that is even a consideration is the attack speed when you think about life leech. more quick hits = more constant influx of health on the merc. that's about it. honestly if you have cure helm + CoH on a merc, he should be pretty darn bulletproof everywhere but maybe travincal.

  • @MuscleRose
    @MuscleRose ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really only care about the Merc damage when I play a summon necro

    • @fuzzymuppet1990
      @fuzzymuppet1990 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree! I like using gface for more CB and have no life leach on merc with summon necro... since skellys usually grab agro and merc really aint taking dmg

    • @SawyerSGN
      @SawyerSGN ปีที่แล้ว

      In the case of the Summon Necro, it's probably better to go with an Eth Reaper's Toll, or an Eth Tomb Reaver, rather than either Insight or Infinity. Neither runeword is really necessary for that build, unless you lack mana per kill, or need the Insight to sustain teleporting with Enigma. It may still be smarter to summon an Iron Golem out of an Insight, and let your Merc carry a bigger boomstick.

    • @MuscleRose
      @MuscleRose ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SawyerSGN I know. What I was saying was meant damage in general and not the damage of an Insight/Infinity.

  • @warmist8197
    @warmist8197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not sure if it was mentioned, but being eth lowers the str/dex requirements a nice chunk 👍

    • @PAwader
      @PAwader ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He mentioned it like 5 times

  • @whoizbucky
    @whoizbucky ปีที่แล้ว +2

    side note if you are building infinity for ES sorc then trident is best but scythe is cooler looking ... all depends if you want to min max your char

    • @smalps-gaming
      @smalps-gaming ปีที่แล้ว

      I like Scythe for style. I don't like how the characters hold the trident. This is just aesthetics though.

    • @seanyewest
      @seanyewest ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The steez on the scythe is just too high. I really wish enchant didn't take so many points to unlock though, red scythe is just 🔥

    • @smalps-gaming
      @smalps-gaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seanyewest _antonio_banderas_gif_ you know the one!

    • @seanyewest
      @seanyewest ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just looked at it again, and I'm like 90% sure it's actually worth going enchant, both for style points and for merc hit rating. Are you actually going to notice 36% less mana regen when you already have like 800+

    • @wolizuka
      @wolizuka ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are at this level of optimization and wealthy enough for infinity you certainly already have torch and anni which means you dont have to invest a single point in dex for either of those bases anyway. Same for str. So basically it doesn't matter

  • @waltlock8805
    @waltlock8805 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made my infinity in a stygian pike. Had to be non-eth for my spearazon. Kills pretty much non-stop, but the extra damage comes in handy for the lightning immunes. Yes, I could have gone for a matriarchal, but this way I can give to a merc if I want, so it gets double duty.

  • @joshsteiner5736
    @joshsteiner5736 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last year I made an eth thresher infinity. This season I did a non eth man catcher. And the man catcher even though it isn't eth does a lot better just because the attack speed. Literally imo unless your wanting resale value attack speed above all else in infinity. You should still wait and make it in a eth. Don't be like me and be an inpatient but it literally won't make a difference anyways

  • @corexmaily
    @corexmaily ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a period where the weapon matters, and thats pre-infinity. My merc deals with the enemies that are immune to my damage, so him doing as much damage as he can is very important.

  • @GxNi4234
    @GxNi4234 ปีที่แล้ว

    your right phil in most cases its not gonna matter and especially with sunder charms in the game. i will say prior to sunders it mattered more, when your merc would take out that 1 out of a 100 monster that you couldn't kill with your sorc. but with sunders, mercs play even less of a roll and its not as critical. ( I myself) like seeing big numbers, i think its exciting. i'd being go with the etheral war pike and for insight (which i don't use) i'd be going for any eth elite 4's i could get (wouldn't really make a difference)

  • @nickwilliams3535
    @nickwilliams3535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waited 12 minutes to be told "ah just pick one"

  • @LuketheGamerDuke
    @LuketheGamerDuke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first Insight was created in a Partizan; I felt like that was a good choice

  • @SonOfGodzilla75
    @SonOfGodzilla75 ปีที่แล้ว

    My summon necro relies a lot on the merc dmg to getting that first enemy down to start popping off ce. So minimizing the merc is too much of a generalized statement as not everyone's build and playstyle is the same. I use a Giant Thresher on my merc as I find it to provide a nice balance on dmg and speed. Cryptic axe is great on dmg but very slow and mancatcher is high speed w/ no dmg lol but great if you are just doing bosses and want to stun lock them.

  • @betweenthepanels9145
    @betweenthepanels9145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Insight for bows is good too.

  • @tylerm8145
    @tylerm8145 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the only aspect of it that really matters is keeping your merc alive. Bigger dps and faster attacks = more leech. Also requirements early on but if your merc isn't just there to feed you auras and meat shield for you, you need a better character lol.

  • @senormarston
    @senormarston ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, I simply love all these guides and tips about Diablo. I love this game and I play the hell out of it. But the game is so complex and deep, that having a much more experience person guiding me to a better path is always good and even makes the game more fun

  • @tomaspoljansky833
    @tomaspoljansky833 ปีที่แล้ว

    My best found its Superior-Eth. Colossus Volgue 14/14 4 Sockets...And still have this one in stash😅..... Good usefull video SPhil👍👍

  • @rube79
    @rube79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im a min/max individual, but i 100% agree with you sir😊 good video keepem coming

  • @TheWizard856
    @TheWizard856 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mancatcher > Thresher > GT > GP > CA > CV

  • @zeroresistance7203
    @zeroresistance7203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when you still have mana problems even with a lvl 17th Meditation aura Cries in Blizzard Glacial spike Spamming

    • @johnjackson2349
      @johnjackson2349 ปีที่แล้ว

      The solution is simple you just need a bigger mana pool. If you have 1k mana rather than 500 mana your regen per second is doubled too. Its why mana shield high mana sorc are so tough

  • @nikolajkristensen1803
    @nikolajkristensen1803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    somebody i met gave me a mancatcher and it goes brrrrr

  • @TroyCrosby9296
    @TroyCrosby9296 ปีที่แล้ว

    I usually find an eth CA for my merc for insight. And I've had an eth thresher infinity. All elite bases are viable just pick the one you like best.

  • @bohdanbilous9
    @bohdanbilous9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have made infinity in non ETH polearm, and not regretting it.
    First I am having infinity already today, secondly I can try to wear it myself and see if it fun. I don’t want my merc kill all dudes for me, with aura I killing them faster anyway. Now but what about additional damage your merc would do, answer is simple most of damage comes from crashing blow and difference is about 10% damage output . And if only mercenary would kill all bosses for me, I would gain 10% speed. So for that base I would need to play for couple days and hopefully get one….meaning I would not gain in 50 days ANY BENEFITS. So chill. Just put runewors in the right order Ber Ist Ber Mal. Cheers.

  • @Boonda-p
    @Boonda-p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro just dissed the merc so hard at the end

  • @Patrick_The_Pure
    @Patrick_The_Pure ปีที่แล้ว

    What do i think is important?, well a good base is one thing, but more important, crushing blow, life leech, safety. So Infinity + Guillaume's Face + Chains of Honor / 7% Elite Skin of the Flayed one socketing with an Um rune. On a Holy Freeze merc, except on my necro, cause Might is just too overpowered for those skellies.

  • @sno0p3r
    @sno0p3r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I needed that, thank you!

  • @rodneyemmens3065
    @rodneyemmens3065 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Made my infinity last night eth thresher in single player got lucky yesterday ber Jah runes droped

  • @Xenosei
    @Xenosei ปีที่แล้ว

    Stygian Pike, low key absolute best infin base for merc, low reqs and rolls for 4 at lars, you'll find a dozen eth before you'll ever find a 4 soc eth thresher

  • @thestabbinhob0986
    @thestabbinhob0986 ปีที่แล้ว

    Made a doom in an eth cryptic axe yesterday and boy does it slap.

  • @edwardbailey1743
    @edwardbailey1743 ปีที่แล้ว

    My hammerdin has an act 2 merc using insight in an ethereal colossus voulge. His upper end of damage after concentration is just over 11k

  • @xXRueMorgueXx
    @xXRueMorgueXx ปีที่แล้ว

    I play solo and recently found a 4 socket ethereal 14% ED Mancatcher... I was pretty stoked.

  • @warmist8197
    @warmist8197 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow thresher has god awful range of 2 when 5 is the average of the other options

    • @scottmccomas1514
      @scottmccomas1514 ปีที่แล้ว

      seems no one pays attention to range any longer is it changed like speed?

    • @michaeltorrisi7289
      @michaeltorrisi7289 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scottmccomas1514 Weapon range doesn't matter for mercenaries. Their range is their range is their range.

  • @earlp3361
    @earlp3361 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer threshers for insight and mancatcher for infinity. Get that insight plus to crit as high as you can because the life steal on crits keeps waheed alive.

  • @xtwytchx1872
    @xtwytchx1872 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive seen a few arguements over infinity in thresh/giant thresh vs mancatcher. T/GT needs 75 ias (treachery, ias jeweled andys) mancatcher needs 52 (treachery, andys). Mancatcher gets a free helm socket and T/GT people are typically looking for that expensive fire res ias jewel

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  • @MrColdsteal
    @MrColdsteal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You will notice your merc sux with a non eth base against mobs immune to your spells. I like to let my merc kill them and the longer it takes the more annoying.

  • @threedawg
    @threedawg ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone finally said it

  • @eclap78
    @eclap78 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the website Phil uses to check all those polearms btw?

  • @nickfelice9462
    @nickfelice9462 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like faster as for merc insight. Helps with ll

  • @formdoggie5
    @formdoggie5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Colossus voulge has always been a dumb choice.
    210 str requirement means your merc wont be able to use the item until your character is basically already completed.

  • @deaDParrot88
    @deaDParrot88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super coincidental that you made this vid, I’m literally looking to make an infinity this evening and am stuck on the fence!

    • @greggougeon4422
      @greggougeon4422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same but i currently have a eth colossus voluge just sitting around.

  • @Knudby
    @Knudby ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, just the info i needed about Infinity

  • @ALTERS_lol
    @ALTERS_lol ปีที่แล้ว

    For self infinity what would you recommend

  • @misterHMrH
    @misterHMrH หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yo guys did larzuk craft, 😮I got a five socket scythe. Where did I go wrong ?

  • @jaredforman8064
    @jaredforman8064 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible insight!! Even better conclusion. 🙃

  • @foofoo5448
    @foofoo5448 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was literally googling this! Holy Molly that was Just In Time! 😂

  • @B12adSC
    @B12adSC ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know why but someone bought a 4os regular scythe off me in season 4 ladder for a fair rune like a Fal or something literally cheap i was making unbending will and had 4 insights already that stunk but plain scythe requirements ultra low for player character enough str to wear gear blah blah level 60 character with only Vitality wielding infinity with a -53% roll this made my head hurt as a player that he had ber runes so fast but as of this comment im lvl 85 only

  • @EncryptedDream
    @EncryptedDream ปีที่แล้ว

    What about self wielding a scythe as nova sorc and putting insight on merc to counter mana problems.

    • @Vismajor01
      @Vismajor01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are stupid, don't count

  • @percollen46
    @percollen46 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only reason I want my merc to do lots of damage is for his lifeleech. A dead merc = no infinity/insight

  • @PAwader
    @PAwader ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For infinity I would just advise you to stay away from the CV. Specifically because it lowers the trade value (if you ever decide to trade it). That strength requirement is crazy high.

    • @greggougeon4422
      @greggougeon4422 ปีที่แล้ว

      I need something else then lol. Its all i got.

  • @insertnamehere7343
    @insertnamehere7343 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found 4 sur and an ist today ..... not one elite eth pole ..... Single player so not a chance I can trade 😂

  • @CASSD2RTV
    @CASSD2RTV ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer 'Thresher' because merc can hold it lowest lv stat.

  • @brakpseudonimu236
    @brakpseudonimu236 ปีที่แล้ว

    Infinity is a hard choice for merc obviously eth mancatcher, but I wouldn't advise eth for a spearzon, unless you're really too wealthy. And obviously a nova sorc needs a normal base with style points, usable without any extra points in str/dex.

    • @leohelpuall
      @leohelpuall 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the same question, Nova sorc losses durability using a delf a eth mancatcher?

    • @brakpseudonimu236
      @brakpseudonimu236 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@leohelpuall no unless you autoattack

  • @ThePhreakyPyro
    @ThePhreakyPyro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love you phil!!!

  • @goshu7009
    @goshu7009 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put Insight on everything i got.
    I havent made Infinity by now, but i found all the good bases.. Just lackin 2 ber runes :P

    • @SawyerSGN
      @SawyerSGN ปีที่แล้ว

      I was in your shoes a few months ago, so I grinded the Cows for a few hours every day on Players 5 with my Nova Sorc, and got really lucky with 2 Ber within 12 days of each other.
      I really recommend the cows!!!

  • @Parasmunt
    @Parasmunt ปีที่แล้ว

    I played for thousands of hours and never found a 4 socket elite polearm except for CV. They can be really hard to get. If players want they can use a CV if they are in single player they wont be trading it, Using eth cv on merc can be done with griswold armor socketed with plus strg and a helm that gives to strength wuntil the merc is high enough level.

    • @chrisvids1820
      @chrisvids1820 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you tried to roll soccets with the cube?

    • @Parasmunt
      @Parasmunt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrisvids1820 Since found lots. Stopped playing 2 months ago (it wrecked the middle finger of my right hand).

    • @rasmuskjaerpoulsen
      @rasmuskjaerpoulsen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can literally find it a day in cowruns..

    • @Parasmunt
      @Parasmunt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rasmuskjaerpoulsen It took me a long time to get my first one, since found about 6 but i had found the runes for infinity long before i got my first one! So infinity went into a CV.

  • @greggougeon4422
    @greggougeon4422 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been waiting for a better base for my infinity. I have a eth Colossus voluge. Just sitting around so i guess i should just make it in that. Its better than waiting forever or spending too much.

    • @PAwader
      @PAwader ปีที่แล้ว

      I would advise not to make it in the CV. The strength req is too high and lowers trade value

    • @SawyerSGN
      @SawyerSGN ปีที่แล้ว

      You should be able to find a 4 OS eth Mancatcher far faster than a high rune. If you find them unsocketed, roll it for sockets in the cube. I would definitely recommend an eth Mancatcher over anything else, if you're putting it on an Act 2 Merc!

  • @blaket1841
    @blaket1841 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually found a ber rune before a 4os elite polearm this season. Day 2 ber rune club lets go.

  • @Felix-R88
    @Felix-R88 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Insight in bows? I also thought you could roll Infinity in spears now?

  • @slof69
    @slof69 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont like how essential infinity is it feels off

  • @IBlowitByTheOh
    @IBlowitByTheOh ปีที่แล้ว

    Insight can go on bows now too btw

  • @rossmcgarry7651
    @rossmcgarry7651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GPA all the way! I just like the look of it is all haha

  • @pathill6244
    @pathill6244 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ogre (oh-ger), as in Shrek the ogre. Not Ohgree lol. ohgree axe.

  • @attractivegd9531
    @attractivegd9531 ปีที่แล้ว

    Giant Tresher for Insight is by far the best unless you absolutely want your merc to be as close as possible to the mobs.

    • @marc-etiennemercier6584
      @marc-etiennemercier6584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what makes it better than a tresher? trading max dmg for low dmg?

    • @mikeblenheim117
      @mikeblenheim117 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Weapon range doesn’t work on mercs

    • @attractivegd9531
      @attractivegd9531 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikeblenheim117 Amazing, this game is full of hiden "mechanics" xD

  • @bane9685
    @bane9685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah. You dont care about damage for killing enemies, but the faster and more they hit, theyll stay alive better since they all rely on life leech. But point well taken, a single frame is not noticable

  • @JT-mt6ku
    @JT-mt6ku ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely prefer the Mancatcher for the infinity base

  • @aeunexcore
    @aeunexcore ปีที่แล้ว

    -20 on weapon speed equals to fast attack speed in game?

    • @Vismajor01
      @Vismajor01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the lower the number is, faster in game

  • @blizbiggy
    @blizbiggy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Note: Eth bases are a 10 less strength requirement (looking at the CV) which is still a dumb level you have to get the merc to.

    • @wolizuka
      @wolizuka ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andariel's visage (Can grab a non eth for relatively cheap) gives 20 str so its not a "dumb level" at all

    • @creed5248
      @creed5248 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but it is popular because they can use the Larzuk quest to guarantee 4 sockets

    • @jameshung9262
      @jameshung9262 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@wolizukaI still don't like CV given the strength requirement which will restrict helm and body armor options, unless you are super urgent with no better choices

    • @MikeyStreet314
      @MikeyStreet314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could be used at level 85 if eth and you socket a Tal’s mask with a +10 to strength Pgem. When your character levels up a bit just remove the gem and put in an IAS jewel or Ral or whatever will benefit your merc

    • @ak_getright9905
      @ak_getright9905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MikeyStreet314 that would be wasting a perfect gem tho?

  • @claytonzak948
    @claytonzak948 ปีที่แล้ว

    I built my infinity in a mancatcher so i can do a few different builds...🤷‍♂️

  • @barbaraburgess2518
    @barbaraburgess2518 ปีที่แล้ว

    OOO GREEEE! It's sick this cant be used, just a shame 8>D

  • @voidxvoid
    @voidxvoid ปีที่แล้ว

    Colossus Voulge speed is 10 not 0

  • @nitroprime9714
    @nitroprime9714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i say eth ca, cv to much str mancatcher low damage

  • @derfloh8986
    @derfloh8986 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im curious about that one little factor which is life leech for survivability

    • @chrisvids1820
      @chrisvids1820 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Treachery and Andy's pretty much works for me. I have an infinity in an eth Cryptic Axe for my sorceress. The conviction aura makes my sorc so strong it doesn't even really matter.
      I'm using a fire/blizz hybrid and it works pretty nicely

  • @ray_donovan_v4
    @ray_donovan_v4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only real point where this matters for the merc is if you're using your merc for killing blows for the MF bonus..
    I run a java zon for chaos runs and nuke Diablo down to let my merc get the killing blow. 🤷. No infinity tho..
    tomb reaver might merc.. 😂

    • @ray_donovan_v4
      @ray_donovan_v4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh.. it always pays to get an ethereal exceptional base for a low level insight to level with...

  • @aburr1537
    @aburr1537 ปีที่แล้ว

    wtf is ogree axe? why

  • @cl8804
    @cl8804 ปีที่แล้ว

    don't disrespecc the ogreeh maul : (

  • @c4master703
    @c4master703 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...unless your mercenary's name is Emilio, in which case he is the star of the show 😎