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Green Goblin Tries His Best
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2023
- Green Goblin and Spider-Man discuss Nebraska and the laws of the state. Also Mary Jane falls into the abyss of nothingness
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The rare occasion where JJ actually hires a female VA to help with a video, and then she’s sent to the shadow realm ten seconds into the skit
I think that was still a dude just doing an effeminate voice.
Sigma Chad moves or go home.
like fkn seto kaiba
Female voice and it is gone forever
The only way I'll allow a woman to work with me is if she's sexually harassed and underpaid lmao
It’s almost like a higher power wouldn’t allow Mary Jane to become Street Pizza on a children’s network
wait until Spider-man finds out about the sheer power of p l o t
Well more like wouldn't allow Spider-Man to crack her neck from Whiplash like what happened to Gwen Stacy in the source material
This is the same higher power that replaces all bullets with non lethal lasers
Eh, don't hate the higher power too much. The shadow realm is a pretty cool concept and they invented it. There was no shadow realm in japan, people just straight up died.
It's almost like Spider-Man was more of a wrestler the span of an entire cartoon.
To be fair: Instead of giving Spider-Man the opportunity to mourn and find closure, dimensional banishment means Goblin gets to sit back and watch Spidey torture himself and try to get his lost love back instead of healing and growing back stronger. Grade A villain move.
Except this Spider-Man is the one with an ally who could find Mary Jane. Even without Madame Web, with the device there are multiple super-scientists that could reverse the device and bring her back
@@maakujiten3812 yeah he's friends with a fricking beyonder
except spider man would pull a fucking gun on goblin. cant get good villian grades if ur not alive
Prrrrobably should have not let him get the device that sent her there to begin with.
Now he can get her back safely and leave Gobby stuck in Nebraska.
If Spidey didn’t have a long track record of successfully dealing with things like this and his long list of contacts who can do it even better, you mean. So, no it was pretty stupid.
So lets see… we have so far:
- A 60’s Spider-Man who just tries to roll with whatever weird shit happens to him
- 80’s Spidey who gets super pissed off at people for shit and swears a bunch
- And 90’s Spiderman who’s tone deaf to his villains plans and origins.
I demand a crossover, now.
There is also 2010's version being so confused by Deadpool that his confusion made you forget about him
Edit: I forgot about Raimi SM
Hell yeah into the solidverse!
Oh yes the trinity of spiders pointing their fingers at each other.
There's also the Spiderman who owns a gun
@@daltonsharp6254 "I want pictures! Pictures of pointing Spider-Men!"
"Not where Wallcrawler, but where!"
11/10 writing right here. Give this man his Oscar.
I thought Spiderman was confused about this line and want to debate about that
That one made me actually laugh out loud!
@@JuanofaKindTL But WHEEEEEEEERE?
@@Konfektionery the real question is "Whhheeeeeeere"?
@@JuanofaKindTLTO FUCKING NEBRASKA, HAH DAMN IT!
Green Goblin isn't evil, he's just having fun and making the most out of every situation. We should all strive to be like him.
So we should hook up with Gwen Stacy?
@@thelaughingman6975 If the opportunity presents itself.
@@thelaughingman6975hell yeah
Like the Joker?
@@ArcCaravan Ah fuck yes! I'm all in that!
"They'll never see us coming!"
As a Spidey fan for over thirty years, I can definitely say Spider-Man distracting Green Goblin by joking around and stealing his weapon right from under his nose is the most Spider-Man thing he's done since everyone in the comics apparently forgot how to write him.
If your a spider man fan, dont read the comics, at least the new ones, don't even look up what they are doing, go play the video games and watch the movies, pretend the spider man comics ended a long time ago. You have been warned.
@@Fourtytwo4242 Paul is the biggest Spider-Man villain
@@Fourtytwo4242 it ended slightly after the clone saga, aunt may is dead and Mayday Parker is a thing. Oh I wish.
Faxxxxxx
@@Fourtytwo4242 that’s literally what I had jus said on a different video bruh I don’t even count modern comics as cannon most people haven’t ever picked up a comic and yet “know more” than me who’s read them his entire life
i think the reason Spider Man was so insistent on establishing that sending someone to the Shadow Realm doesnt technically count as killing them was so that he could do it to Goblin and still be able to say he doesnt kill his villains
Same
Is there food and water in the Shadow Realm? Is there even oxygen? How are the temperatures, weather conditions? Because without those things being optimal for human survival, this really is just murdering MJ, but with extra steps.
@@ThatGuyNicho I don't think 4kids ever really gave it that much thought.
Nebraska is probably worse then the place between time and space tbh.
As an Nebraskian I can confirm this 😂
I’m not from there, but I guess it’s true lol. Also nice pfp.
I have seen you so many times, and EVERY time
I get DISGUSTED by that GODAWFUL pfp.
@@Random_Furry_On_The_Internet *n o*
At least I can have fun in the place between time and space
As somebody who has grandparents on a rural farm in Nebraska, I can confirm Mary Jane would almost certainly die of boredom out of the sheer nothingness of things to do. Gobbie is truly out of his mind with evil.
Breaking news : After hearing the name "Gobbie" the Green Goblin has put his life of crime behind him and retired!
I'm terrible sorry for your loss, if it's any consolation my aunt also lives in Nebraska.
I thought Nebraska was a myth they told to slightly disobedient children
@@chasecollins3263 What is with everyone knowing someone in Nebraska? Is there some kind of conspiracy or something? How is Nebraska so lacking in everything, yet it manages to also have someone everyone knows?
@@BobNinjaCat Good sir, I can answer your question with such a simple simile that you should instantly know my answer. Do you not also know personally of someone in a prison?
It is 1000% in Spidey's character to go on an unbelievably ridiculous tangent like this just to throw Goblin off and steal his device to free Mary Jane XD
If I had a nickel for every time something like this happened in a Spider-Man video by Solid jj, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
@@fatcerberus That is an adaptation of a quote and it pisses me off.
@@johnnotrealname8168 literally everyone does it
@@johnnotrealname8168 "Adaptation of a quote", also known as a snowclone. And if you had a nickel for every time someone used a snowclone, you'd... actually be a billionaire, probably!
@@johnnotrealname8168 Thats a meme format
"Not where, but where!" is so fucking perfect because it's exactly the kind of mindfuckery I appreciate from Gobby
I dont get it
@@norishimogawa6125 It's a parody of the often-used "Not where, but when!" quote when wormholes are involved.
he actually did fuck with my mind for a moment. I rewound twice just to be like "wait, what? did I get that right?"
Knowing MJ, she's probably gonna settle down and have a family with Green Goblin while being trapped together.
I swear to god if they spin off this and use being trapped between time and space to explain how their adult children can come back and try to kill Spider-Man I will hunt you down
god that comic lines so bad
I get that reference
I am absolutely mad at you for that reference.
we don't talk about it
So MJ and Steve are just straight up dead right? I love how nonchalantly Peter handles this whole situation.
Good callback 😂
Thanks for calling Steve by his name. 👍
Not necessarily
@@disguisedcentennial835 I mean they are technically alive but it’s only a matter of time before they starve to death. And that’s assuming there is even oxygen in the void.
Nah fam, watch to the very last frame.
ITS FUCKING NEBRASKA!
The "I rather you fucked off!" had me in TEARS! 🤣
A wise man once said that the difference between a villain and a supervillain is _"PRESENTATION!"_
It's not about the destination Spider-Man, it's about the journey.
It's not always about the journey, Spider-Man.
It's about the Mets, baby
I see a human of excellent culture
A wise man with a giant blue head.
Her perhaps infinite journey through a swirly dimension, as a corpse after she dies of thirst.
perhaps the real shadow realm was the friends we made along the way
Goblin really experiencing his own words to “inspite of everything you do for them eventually they will hate you”
yyou mean in spite of everything?
@@3p1Kf41L Thank you can’t believe I made that mistake
Next video has Green Goblin return from the limbo dimension. It was just a week for Spider-man, but a billions years to Green Goblin. He tells in great detail how at first he wanted to escape, then wanted to die, but all he could do is thinking while floating in the void. Eventually his mind transcended existencial planes and that is how he returned. He tells Parker he can ask him anything, and Parker ask about MJ. The Green Goblin gets offended that he became an omniscient being that exists through multiple dimensions, but Parker is still more interested in talking about MJ.
I can just imagine the point where Green Goblin goes from talking in a calm, serene way that still has traces of madness from being in limbo for eons (complete with reverb on the voice) to doing a complete 180 of once again talking like a normal pissed off guy “seriously? I know the secrets of fucking everything and you’re more interested in asking about her?!”
He still has the reverb filter
I know Nebraska sucks, but is it really an existential nightmare of floating in a void forevermore?
@@JHenry-nz7hy
Yes
@@JHenry-nz7hy yup
I love how the real issue isn't that Green Goblin is taking his girlfriend hostage but Spider-Man is bored with these villains using convoluted plans to torture his loved ones and just get on with the show already.
Yes thank you for analyzing the joke and making it less funny with your explanation that we all totally needed
@@Sal13414, dang it!
Foiled again. I thought I had gotten away with it this time . . .
No, as he said, he'd rather they just ****ed off, he's just wondering why they go through the convoluted plans instead of just doing it.
Solid JJ's Green Goblin is giving me real Monarch from "Venture Bros" vibes and I'm loving it!
gobbie and monnie
Spider-Man is Doc too. That’s what he would do. Tear convention apart
G.G does sound like the Monarch fr
It truly ain't easy being green.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 🥂
Norman Osborn himself has spoken.
Willem Dafoe, you mad genius, you!
that's what spider man says at one point in Spiderman 3 the game while fighting the lizard people
Spider-Man’s villains didn’t die at the end of no way home, they were just sent to Nebraska.
That “not where wallcrawler, but where” had me laughing my ass off lol
You know this limbo gun seems like something that could be easily monetized if Green Goblin wasn't so intent on using it to harass Spider Man.
He's already a millionaire though, so harassment it is.
"But i don't wanna monetize my limbo gun! I want to terrorize the spidah-man!"
@@swaglevi4315 "But i don't want to solve world hunger! I want a private cruiser with it's own smaller support cruiser!"
I think there were, like, at least three Batman Animated episodes about villains trying to use their abilities for legitimate monetary gain, and it always backfired
In all seriousness, this show is a gem and really overlooked by the Spidey community. Where all my TAS fans at?
I love this show. I even prefer it over Spectacular Spider-Man.
Here. I always like the episode with the funny vampire meme.
Grew up on it right here.
Reminds me to do my annual check if they finally put the show on Disney+.
TAS is the only true Spiderman experience.
Is anyone going to ignore that MJ just got a fate worse than death?
yeah exile in Nebraska is pretty horrible
@@lilacdragon44 "The Smith's lived in Nebraska, where it was always Nebraska and never Christmas. The Smith's lived in Nebraska for several reasons, the greatest of which was bad judgement."
It truly was, because the show ended with Spider-Man and Madame Web going to search for her in the final season that was NEVER MADE.
And there was a whole water-clone Mary-Jane, Beyonder Dr Doom and Spider-Carnage in an alternate dimension marathon of nuttiness to get through even before that.
@@KnuttyEntertainment
You don't *have* to rub it in. 😄
Better than ending with paul at least
“You know, when I had this made, the guys in the lab told me that you’d do this!”
I love all the implications of that line! 🤣
I just imagine this image of Norman just drinking some coffee while having his boys break time and space, and when he tells them why they get real with him out of concern for his emotional well-being 😂 but he’s like, ‘Nah, come on guys, this is a good idea, you’ll see.’ 🤣
At first I was thinking, "With all the crap Spidey's seen the idea she's gone forever isn't that scary. Dimensional travel is very possible for superheroes, especially when they're sci-fi geniuses."
Near the end I started thinking of Red Death's "gentleman villain" speech in Venture Bros, about how some evil plans have a little hope of escape to add tension. Makes villains with plans that have a hope of survival or recovery almost look crueler, taunting their victims before despair sets in.
I mean, odds are Spider-Man could just bring the device to the Fantastic Four! I'm sure Reed could figure out how it works unless the writers are @$$hole$ who make it impossible for anyone to help him and/or he has to make a literal deal with the devil that ends up screwing Peter over by bringing MJ back but he has to sacrifice their relationship & assassinate his own heroic character by making a deal with the freakin devil & never questioning why no one else can help him but a freaking devil can! Then again, most of the misery in Peter Parker's life is cause his writers can't let him just grow up! Also, it's obvious the writing staff wanted to do the death of Gwen Stacy storyline, but with MJ, however, the network wouldn't let them kill her, hence the overly complicated scenario where she is lost forever while leaving open the possibility of her reuniting with Peter down the line! Mind you in the comics, there was this horrible & annoying trend of them reenacting the scenario by having women get chucked off the bridge! At this point, I imagine most Spider-Man fans are sick of it as sure the Death of Gwen Stacy was shocking for its time, but years of superhero love interests getting fridged (including Major Force's brutal murder Kyle Rayner's girlfriend Alexandra DeWitt from which the phrase Women In Refrigerators comes from) & Marvel calling back to it again & again (heck it occurred several times during the Clone Saga & in the infamously bad Sins Past)!
@@RaphBlade7 I remember all of that from AT4W.
Green Goblin : DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?
Spider-Man is probably the most relatable character in the Solid JJ universe
Remember that spider-man has a no-kill rule like batman.
Now remember the questions asked around 0:37 and 0:49 about the lethality of the weapon. And around 2:26 to 2:40, listen to what Spidey says.
Green Goblin was defeated as soon as they even invented that.
0:07 props to the VA for managing to talk that fast lol
As somebody who lives in Nebraska, I can’t believe Gobby spared MJ from this godforsaken state
While I agree that this plan is needlessly complex (having to develop a phantom zone projector and all), I can see what the Goblin was trying to do.
If he had outright killed MJ Spider-man might've snapped for a bit or even retire, but it leaves the chance for him to properly grieve and grow as a hero.
With this, there is no grieving, she's still alive and counting on you to save her, rescuing her will become your obsession, it will plague your mind throughout your life, and in turn will solidify your hatred of the Goblin.
Thus creating a torturous existence for the rest of your life.
0:26) Rule of thumb; If Spiderman ever gets quiet, R̸̢͔̩̯̣͍͗͊̌̈́̐̽͝͝U̸̻͖̚N̷̙̣̳̦͂. When he's not cracking jokes, your ass is grass.
And he'll be mowing 🚜 the lawn!
This lifelong Nebraska native loves how everyone from JonTron to JJ use my state as a throwaway line; it always tickles my funny bone 😂
Ah bless Green goblin's heart he tried but because of the censorship of the 90s Show he can't kill anyone
Something more subtle I don’t think many noticed was that the censors wouldn’t allow anyone to throw a punch so everyone was grappling each other.
@@Broomer52 You could kick people through walls though. That was fine, but no punching! That would be far too violent.
@@voodoominerman yeah Batman Beyond wasn't censored that bad I have no clue why spider man was
@@edgy_name_ Definite channels and companies I imagine. For the most part everyone in the 90s FOX cartoons had ineffectual laser guns, even the police. On WB, characters had actual guns and ironically more people tended to get injured from them even though actual lasers would be far deadlier. Funny how that works.
@@MusicoftheDamned oh yeah I think the spider man was on Warner brother kids so that checks out
man, it’s really impressive how jj can stick to a pretty simple, consistent format across all of his videos, yet still manage to keep it feeling fresh each time. right when you think you’ve seen all you need to see, he delivers a truly killer punchline.
Green Goblin really went "You know how much I sacrificed?" on Spidey.
I love how JJ has a distinct voice for both 60s, 90s and Toby Spider-Man.
This sounds exactly like a venture bros skit, gobby even sounds like the monarch
"I'd prefer you fucked off!" was very Rusty.
Actually makes a lot of sense, Spiderman doesn't kill, so he has to make sure the limbo gun isn't technically killing Green Goblin before using it on him.
To be fair, floating around the void for eternity while still conscious feels infinitely worse then just dying in a fall.
I love that the whole dynamic between Spidey and Gobby in these videos is that they're like a toxic couple
0:13
"Not where, wallcrawler, but WHERE?"
"What?"
It's the small jokes I appreciate most about these videos.
Even as Green Goblin he still has billionaire brain of "Why do I not get more credit for what other people created for me?"
3:01 I knew it!
Your voices are spot on to the animated series voice actors, I don't know how you keep doing it
Oh man this one got me good. Especially the "after credits" scene. Great job as always man.
Green Goblin is aware of the Y7 rating of this Saturday morning cartoon and that he, as the villain, is realistically the only one who has to develop complex workarounds for his actions because of it. This was him expressing his frustration of having to do so.
In fairness being trapped in a limbo for all eternity is still pretty horrifying of a fate.
Yeah Nebraska doesn’t seem all that great.
1:57 “I offered you friendship, and you spat in my face”
If I had to choose between my loved one dying, and my loved one just gone to some limbo-dimension, I’d pick the latter. At least I can save them.
Well, you might be able to. Or maybe you've just sent them to the sadness dimension where they'll slowly die of dehydration.
What if your loved on ends up marrying Steve?
Maybe you are that loved one- the possibilities!
@@18skeltor I’d rather be in a limbo-dimension then! After all, I would only be sent there because my love-interest would be a super hero. It’s better than dying.
@@pictonomii3295 Then God has proven that there are worse states than death.
02:35 Hands down, one of the best "Ah, shit..." moments ever! 😂
0:55 I think he meant Iowa.
Iowa is the california of the midwest. Everyone hates them and they hate everyone else. Nebraska's pretty chill.
uh huh
BUT IS THERE A HOLLYWOOD VERSION OF IOWA???
1:08 fun fact in brazil kaiba's VA dubs spiderman
@2:07 you wanna know the funniest part about all this is?
This convo 100% is going to come back to bite spiderman in the ass later with gwen, when her brains are all over the cement of the Washington bridge......
lmfao.
Fuck me I was in a dark place when I wrote that.
this is 100% my favorite one you"ve made so far.
This feels straight out of Venture Bros, thats probably the best compliment I can think of.
This is the most accurate explanation of Schrodinger's cat. Thank you Solid jj.
0:50 I didn't know that I needed Phoenix Wright Spider-Man in my life, but I'm glad that he's here.
"Where did she go?!"
"Not where wall-crawler, but where!"
"What?"
The funny thing is, Goblin being sent to Nebraska can technically happen canonically
.... Go on 🤨
i gotta mention, the animation in this episode was fantastic
I watched this cartoon as a kid. Now I'm 30 and I'm still waiting for the resolution of that plot ark
You mean she never made it back? Huh. Guess the goblin won after all.
No worries. In the last episode Pete & Madam Web went to get her.
(It's implied that only a second {or two} passed for M.J.)
@@dembones5005 I think they had some idea of Peter going after her and getting into Victorian England, but it's never been done and never will be
Ironic that the questions they’re pondering now are the exact same ones we all have since the series’s cliffhanger. 😂
Couldn't stop laughing, this was so so fun, thanks for upluading these videos and please keep doing it.
Glad to see that Steve's hard work paid off
If only he had Green Goblin from the dimension where everyone has a gun and there are no moral implications
I would just bring in a spider man from the dimension where everyone has a bulletproof vest
@@lorddarthfire1560Na should of brought in The Goblin where every one has a Nuclear Bombe in there throat that will explode if they Talk.
(and also bullets go through vests)
You wanna know what's the funny part about your comment? I'm like, 98% sure that Norman is, for all intents and purposes, one of the few A-list Spider-Man villains (not counting Kraven) who actually knows how to use guns.😅
It's like when you realize that literally *more than half* of the Marvel universe (whether they're Atheist or Christian) has sold their soul to Mephisto but at the same time strangled him to death. Imagine you're Satan, ruler of the underworld, the true prince of darkness, relaxing in your throne. Next thing you know, that one guy who used to be a McDonald's manager just shoots you in the head because when he sold his soul for an extra year, you forget to mention he had to spend his last year wheelchair bound.🤣
@@antonhanna2423 Pretty sure most of them can use a gun tbf. I know the likes of sandman and venom are portrayed as idiots, but if I handed them a gun I don’t think they’re gonna be looking at it like ‘the f is this?’
Poor Green Goblin... he's so underappreciated that he didn't even mention him murdering Peter's first love (possibly by making Spiderman himself kill her.) Also by throwing her off a bridge. All the things you've done to earn our respect mean something to me Norman. Edit: Before you say something about the continuity of this particular cartoon not having the Night Gwen Stacy Died involved, I know.
something about the continuity of this particular cartoon not having the Night Gwen Stacy Died involved
2:49 when the medicine advertisement starts listing potential side-effects
I like how JJ implies that Nebraska is a place beyond time and space which is also an alternate dimension.
At least this wasn't like the Gwen Stacy case, she crossed the portal before the web got to her neck
Or Norman's bedroom.
@@mauriciomagalhaes181 goddamnit, why'd you have to remind me of that?
@@mauriciomagalhaes181 this is why Ultron wanted to kill all humanity, he wanted to erase that memory and make sure nobody ever exposed that abomination ever again
@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets i'm so sorry.
@@mauriciomagalhaes181 yeah, wait, what's that? It's Mysterio! And he brings a retcon with him!!!
i mean sending her to an alternate dimension gives spider-man a chance to save her still so definitely less bad than just killing her
post-credits scene is the bomb lol
Just finished the series and this comes up XD thank you universe
"But I didn't" is so perfectly timed
I understand the nowhere and nothing joke of Nebraska, also he mentions nebraska earlier in the sketch. However in universe it would probably make more sense to have been dumped at the nexus in the Everglades swamp.
The Living Mummy to Spiderman, talking about Man-Thing: he must like you.
Spiderman: how can you tell?
Mummy: you didn't explode when he touched you.
Sometimes You just have to go the extra mile and break a couple laws of Physics to make a Limbo Dimension Gun.
This isn't just gold; this is DIAMONDS, man.
This video is pure gold (Also The reference to Seto Kaiba and the Shadow Realm got me laughing so hard!)
The silence before realization always gets me
2:40
Joke’s on Parker, ‘cause _now_ MJ and Gobbie literally have nothing better to do then each other in the space between space.
I think Gwen Stacy and Osborn had like an affair in the comics too (the shows and movies and ga,was usually filter out all the _REAL out there_ stuff from the comics), so this would have a canonical foundation too.
That "oh god" and "that's not what I said" sounds so much like the guy side of a couple arguing that it almost spooked me
I always get so excited when I see a new upload
I can feel you goblin, we are all trying 😢
Fun fact: The guy who played GG in this cartoon also played Grandfather in the Kids Next Door movie.
These vids have such strong Venture brother vibes, I love them.
It seems like what Goblin did is similar to “Venting” in _Kamen Rider Dragon Knight._ When an Advent Rider is Vented by another Rider, they become inextricably trapped between dimensions, a fate arguably far worse than death.
I mean... if the shadow-realm-gun opens a portal, doesnt it mean its possible to bring them back if you find a way to locate her?
Peter is smart and his friends with the Human Torch, so he could go visit the Fantastic 4 and have Reed figure something out... hell, get Professor X to help aswell, his power might work if the Portal remains open.
1:26 This proves that all solidjj Spider-Man videos are in a continuity. Solidjj cinematic university when?
SJJCU
1:06 is top tier man, i love your vids. thanks for makin em!!
This is definitely one of your best videos I absolutely adore this
Spiderman: "Hey where'd she go?"
Green goblin: "not where wall crawler but where?!"
Spiderman: "What?"
Fucking. Golden.
Man I wish this show actually got to complete that plotline.
Which plotline?
@@arivazquez4531Mary Jane getting sent who knows where, Peter never actually finds her before the show ends.
@Newt Train madam web tells him she got sent to season 3 I believe
@@arivazquez4531 Yeah exactly, after Secret War and Spider War Madame Web tells Peter they are going off to find Mary Jane, but the series never continues after that point so we don't actually get that conclusion.
"CCCCUUUURRRRSSSSEEEE You Spiderman!" Green Goblin shouted as he was banished to the Shadow Realm
Ahem, hell
I love how much the voice for Spidey sounds like Rino Romano from the PS1 games
Shame limbo technology wasn't perfected until after Gwen huh
HOLY SHIT THAT LAST FRAME I'M DEAD
Imagine if in Across the Spider-Verse, Miles gets sent to a dimension that is a Solid JJ video
Imagine if in Across the Spider-Verse, they actually wrap up this unresolved "missing Mary-Jane" plot line from nearly 25 years ago.
Seto Kaiba is like the one Yu-Gi-Oh villian who doesn't send people to the shadow realm
Goblin really sounds like The Monarch here, this could have easily been a conversation between Dr. Venture and the Monarch