You couldn't be more wrong, millions of people live of this industry, from miners in Africa to polishers in India to dealers all over the world, as opposed to a handful of manufacturers that will monopolise the lab grown industry, think outside the box, i know it's hard sometimes.
@@samyezzeddine7436 what was I wrong about? I never said the diamond industry wasn’t huge, of course it employs many people because the prices of diamonds and profit margins are obnoxious. And if you think the earth mined diamond industry is a not monopoly, you don’t know what you are talking about. Debeers controls the market.
@@williamsvohong2981 the marketing campaign for diamonds has people thinking that typical diamonds are rare and therefore command ridiculous prices. A typical 1-2 ct G -H color VS stone are a dime a dozen, yet they cost thousands of dollars and guys are forced to buy them for their wedding and engagement rings.
@@RodSherwood1 Actually for a while already they're on the background with Alrosa, BHP, Rio Tinto and several other big players owning a big part of the production these days. Alos prices are based on supply and demand and are analysed and indicated by Martin Rapaport not De Beers. The reason they don't flood the market with diamonds is to keep this supply and demand chain on par as not to harm businesses and individuals that own stock or personal diamonds. U wouldn't supply the world with double the amount of iphones either cause it will brick their prices. DeBeers hasn't had any big marketing campaigns for a while now and if u just look at what they've meant for the economic growth of Botswana and its people you would think more objectively. I buy rough diamonds for a living and I support many small scale mining operations in Africa that give opportunity to people less fortunate than you who aren't protected by social security and need this industry to get by in life. Unlike what people still tend to perceive as a business based on tyranny and despair as it was during the time in Sierra Leone when the rebels used diamonds to buy weapons. Apart from those people there are thousands of offices, polishing factories, certificate centers, etc that employ hundreds of thousands of people. So yeh I think I'm good in the way I perceive the reality, it's just a make money quick scam by jewellers who make 80% on lab growns iso 20% on natural with a much lower investment. You're the one getting scammed in the end cause they're worthless the moment u leave the shop. Enjoy your plastic
It isn’t a price collapse.. it’s coming down to what the price should realistically be at. Diamond prices are kept artificially high by controlling supply. Edit: just to be clear, Diamonds are NOT 'rare' - barring a few exceptional finds - this is a myth invented by the major diamond companies to get you to subconsciously attach a high worth to these stones.
So true. the price was kept artificially high for decades, by the diamond cartels releasing few diamonds to the public. such a dodgy price model. and people don't ever wonder the history behind the famous south african company that actually started the advertising campaign after WW2 to start the whole "you must have a diamond for an engagement ring" bs trend.
Another person that doesn't understand how the money supply works. Inflation is a product of government and government alone, not supply and demand, not greedy corporations, not you, and not me, but government ( more specifically, central banks).
Thank God. I was almost duped into investing in diamonds 15 or so years ago. They even had the charts to show the steady rise of diamond investing but I didn't bite. I can only look back and smile now.
That's ecactly what I had predicted years ago to an appraiser from an auction house. The same happened with natural pearls when cultured pearls were made available in abundance.
This is fantastic news and music to my ears! For years, they’ve been over inflating the prices of diamonds. For all these companies to make themselves richer. A selfish as they were. They no longer will. As peoples perspective on things change. And peoples likes also change about time that this happened it took a long time for this to come. I’m sure Tiffany’s & Co, Bulgari, and Louis Vuitton will feel the heat as well
True, I am from Asia. Diamond here do not have high value and not prefered by most in Asia because of low resale value unless diamond with good cut with certification. What in demand is real gold 22k or 24 k. So, Im kinda shock when I went to Europe to find out that gold jewellery there is low in gold content, mostly 18 k but price highly because of diamond. Sometimes the diamond is lab diamond not even have certification but sell price is crazy. The worse is jewelery from luxury brand. So high price.
show a mine where kids are working you cant. Stop spreading disinformation about the diamond industry its not the 90s anymore ! Many botswanian and namibian people have well paid trained jobs and lab growns shifts those jobs to china or india where they arent well paid basically slave labour
22 years ago I bought 500k in gold and 500k in platinum as a security against the market. I would never do that with diamonds especially with the advent of engineered diamonds.
@@OsirisDiamonds i bought 800k this year in diamonds, paid less than 30k for them, so far they all checked out and id say i made a great investment. ill sell for 25% value and still make a killing!
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I prefer moissanite even over lab grown diamonds. Due to their properties they sparkle much more than diamonds. They also don't seem to get as dirty as diamonds for some reason so very little upkeep. Lab grown is the way to go even for gemstones. No reason to pay insane prices supporting industries that are not environmentally friendly and fuel conflicts.
watching debeers is like watching an old man slide into a warm bath - It's good to see old monopolies like that fall because the refuse to adapt to the consumer, and it's really nice to see the consumer still rules markets!!
I’m surprised that didn’t happen years ago when they first came out with the lab diamonds. For jewelry purposes the lab diamonds are perfect. No customer can tell the difference, especially that lab diamonds are clearer. For industrial use, the lab products are an obvious choice. The natural diamonds, especially those yellow or pink are possibly good for collecting, but those semi clear are not as rare as jewelers want us to believe and there is no reason why they should be expensive.
I remember a time when yellow or pink diamonds were considered trash - then they realised they could suck more $ - pink and yellow then became "rare "valuable"
Actually the only way you can tell the difference is if the diamond is perfect. If its perfect its lab grown. Ridiculous really on how they flip the narrative that natural diamonds are better but cant even give a reason why specially when lab grown are perfect.
I got married for the first time in my life 6 years ago and when I proposed I did it without a diamond engagement ring. She said yes and we've been married ever since. We did exchange 24 karat gold wedding band rings at the ceremony, but no diamonds were involved. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze.
Yeah, we here in sea. Usually gives gold ring or any gold jewelry or even gold bar to soon to be wife. We even call it "wedding gold" in our own language.
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Earth diamonds are not rare, do not let retailers sell you on that. Dee beers is no better than OPEC.. They have been selling an idea. Its just a carbon crystal. Lab or from the dirt they are the same
The real reason why the price of diamonds is going down is that people are starting to understand that the diamond is the most common of the precious stones. There are a lot more diamonds than coloured stones like rubies, sapphires etc. The reason the diamonds WERE so expensive is because their marketing was cornered by the De Beers company who had imposed a strict monopoly. The artificial diamonds have brought the whole monopoly scam down.
Looked for a new ring the other day, saw a diamond ring I liked but I thought "I'm not paying $1500 for a stone, a clear stone" the price for a diamond is just silly. Paying thousands for a small gem, nah no thanks anymore.
It's true Diamonds price are in Bottom and reached 2004-5 price. In Lab diamonds some size reached their bottom like below 5 cts . As i am from Industry in my opinion its good time to buy Diamond if someone is waiting and looking for it as earth diamonds miners stop selling rough as its too low price point for them to run the show. So, either good quality diamond will sell out soon or price will go back up to get new production. Thank you.
If you’re from my industry you will know time is running out for diamond. Stop playing kiddo. And no I’m ain’t talking about the top 1% diamonds. I’m a whistleblower all lion here 💯🦁🔥⚡️💪🇦🇺✊
not really into diamonds myself, but as a story, this tells me to own genuinely precious elements of the periodic table as a store of value, that no human alchemy can create, such as gold, as opposed to an infinitely createable material such as diamonds…or worse…crypto, which is infinitely more replicatable even than diamonds.
I'm no expert but the thing with crypto is being able to prove the sequence of transactions prior so you prove the legitimacy of the holding. However there are other threats like hacking, like losing your access key, like governments legislating against it or shutting it down. So far it hasn't come to that but if crypto presents a serious threat it could. JIMO either way interesting times...
@@deborahcurtis1385 yes…or kidnapping and torture until you reveal your keys and good luck getting help from the police…or a totally equivalent version of bitcoin that dilutes its value…over and over again…or the bitcoin programmer community agreeing endless forks…or extreme solar wind events causing mass computer network memory losses…or just some crazy virus like bug that eats away at the distributed ledger…the holes in the crypto bro arguments are endless…
@@deborahcurtis1385 Most crypto is a scam because it literally is just a ponzi scheme. The way it works is some influential person either creates or buys a bunch of really cheap crypto, then shills it on social media which then convinces their fans to buy into it. This buying action then drives up the price which initiates another buying frenzy by people looking to make a quick buck. The influential person then dumps all their crypto, selling it as fast as possible, making millions and crashing it's price. People then start selling off as fast as possible to make back as much money as they can before it completely crashes. The end result is that wealth is simply transferred from the less fortunate masses to the now even richer influential person. There are some staple cryptos that are not scams because they act more like fiat currency, where people more or less agree on it's price, but as you said it's very susceptible to outside interference. Bitcoin is always 1 law away from becoming worthless.
@@buttlesschap i wont argue against this, but its similar to gold etc being minable in space or at the bottom of the ocean…maybe will happen…but at great exepnse and will require a giant rise in prices to maks it economic. whereas with crypto, seems replicatable for quite low cost by any corporation or billionare that decides to do it. of course the bitcoin bros will froth at the mouth and say im stupid for not recognising the true and fundamental scarcity of bitcoin…but sorry bros, i dont buy those arguments.
Worth is based on rareness natural is down but when everyone has lab and nobody has natural the lab will become worthless and natural will be move expensive as ever
When I was buying an engagement ring for my woman I looked at man made vs mined diamonds. Without a doubt the man made stones were far superior and more affordable however the ring style and material was terrible. I ended up looking at the biggest solid gold ring with 18ct gold without paying attention to the diamond as to me the gold is worth more than the diamond, the missus is happy with it and she has a nice chunk of gold thats actually valuable.
@@blondythesuperdog8825 1.) Not everybody gets divorced 2.) Marriage contracts (i.e Pre- nuptial contracts) used to be common; until the 20th century in the West; unless one was very poor. Most of these marriage contracts were quite detailed and included land that was to be left in trust for the offspring (with all/ or some portion returned to the woman's if children were not produced) However, during the marriage the couple had the proceeds from the land in trust to benefit them. The oldest son received the lion's share of the parents estate, but those in trust properties were granted to the daughters and other sons as part of their marriage trusts.
The cash people were spending on diamonds was the money that the government gave them for groceries and utility bills. That's why the surge in buying diamonds.
Can you do a video on black diamonds? Does the grading scale matter for black diamonds? What should I look for when shopping for one? How much is too much? Much appreciated
Is it the glasses and mirrors cutting the diamonds like a sharp eye for it? Is it possible a magnifying glass is like the magic hat rabbit closet trick?
Thank you for the video. It was very interesting and I learnt a lot. One request, that you don't have the blue subtitles which are not accurate and very distracting.
Same thing happened to the money supply. Can’t just print Gold yet they print more money. Now Diamonds are running low & slow so they create synthetic ones 🤦🏽♂️
I started by buying Tanzanite twenty five years ago. In 1985 I worked in Kansas City and would walk by Tiffany's every day. They had the most beautiful stones in the window that were a dark purple blue color. I couldn't afford them but I never forgot them. In the early nineties I found a source for those beautiful stones so I started buying a piece at a time. I started educating myself about gemstones in general. I learned that diamonds were not a good investment but if I could buy gemstones only found and mined in one location that as the mines were running out of the supply the prices would increase dramatically. If you look at history when people were displaced and had to leave their country they would sew gold, silver, and gemstones into their clothing and use this to make a new start. Gemstones should be part of everyone's investment strategy. Thank God that's still a secret most people don't know!
@@wmhs02dm You're wrong. As soon as lab sizes are available that size mined drops in demand and price. How long until 20ct lab is standard? How long until 100ct
To overcome the problem of fake diamonds, you need to bring the 'influencers' on board. Gift real diamonds to about ten or twenty influencers and have them gushing over the 'real diamond' they have been gifted and you will be amazed at the surge in sales - and prices - which will occur. Influencers are now the new Madison Avenue.
Moissanite is rising in popularity. A gem that has double the refraction (sparkle) of a diamond, way more affordable, a 9.25-9.5 on the Mohs hardness scale, I'd personally go with moissanite. The natural moissy is extremely rare, more than a natural diamond.
Three 1-carat diamonds, from a 4-carat rough diamond? One 3.50-carat diamond from a 4-carat rough diamond? Can you tell us what cutters get this much yield from their rough?
Your right. I am not 100% accurate. But my point was to explain generally what a cutter does to the rough. If they got that much yield it would be amazing.
I have a gorgeous lab grown diamond, which has been customized just for me. It contains a tiny Autumn leaf that can be seen under the microscope. Can Debeers do that? I don't think so. I've even seen lab grown diamonds cut into beads, flowers, and animal shapes. Diamond cutters have been more artistic with the lab grown rough, with a beautiful result.
Did you get them to put “not for resale” on that too? Or just “gotch”. My man just get a CZ and call it a day. Lab grown. Hahahahha. You mean man made, which means it’s not a diamond. It’s just a rock. Diamonds, just like salt, carbon, water, oxygen, are all from nature and it’s processes. What you have is a man made stone sir. Call it what you like, but it’s not a diamond 💎. You can’t make a diamond. You have something that resembles a diamond. It’s like a beyond meat burger. You’ve got the attributes and such, but something just doesn’t taste the same. Don’t be a fool, you don’t eat fake burgers, why would you buy anything man made that comes from nature. We can’t do it better. It’s just an imitation. Now since you have the information use it.
More and more lab diamond factories are being built. Why should we buy a 1.5 ct lab diamond for $2,000 today, when there will be 10,000 more to choose from by Christmas? Jewelry Stores have been marking up their $500 lab diamond purchase to $9,000 vs. marking up their natural diamonds, by 30%. In 5 years that $9,000 stone will be worth ten dollars and the natural diamond will be worth 70%, of its original price.
My daughter lost her wedding ring after 11 years (devastated!). Insurance gave her 7k and her husband matched it (he felt so bad for her) She had a choice to make: nice 1 ct or 3 carat moisanite. Which do you think she chose?
Is the 1ct diamond the same price as the 3ct moissanite? I would take the 1ct diamond if the price is the same. Lab diamond rings are pretty affordable, if you google around.
I once thought about buying diamonds as a place to store wealth, but my seller said that I can lose as much of its value. Diamonds are so small, portable and easier to carry than the equivalent of silver...Its crazy...
@@OsirisDiamondsLV bags are not rare either. The market is flooded with fakes and super fakes but I have yet to see any Louis Vuitton store closings 😂. There will always be luxury buyers who want the “real” thing and are willing to pay for it.
We don’t buy the real diamond for our wedding ring but moissanite stone but it was still not cheap as it was new. Finally the scams are being exposed and prices lowered
Is it a good investment for 5 to 10 years? Purchase now when there is a drop and sell it five years from now when the price stabilises? How much would be the approx profit margin prediction?
@@OsirisDiamonds could you make a video about “why diamonds are not a good long term investment”. I’m from India and have seen people invest into diamonds here. Is gold good to invest in? A video would be much appreciated!!!
Re sell value and desirability of Lab diamond, cvd, hpht and moisonite it's very low and with the increasing flowin the market in short time will value Zero.
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You need to differentiate between common - usual mass good diamonds mostly used for engagement rings and extremely rare colored diamonds (red, pink, blue, green). Unless you can afford a rare flawless 25 carat+ white which is extremely rare you will not get a good return on it. Colored stones, and i mean good quality natural colored stones mentioned above are increasing in price ridiculous per year due to actually being rare. Just look at auction house results, and i am not even talking about the big player houses but small specialized houses that auction diamonds and you will not believe how prices have developed
Foolishly when the Argyle mine was discovered I bought quite a few natural fancies to invest in. Who would’ve thought this would have happened even to fancies?
It’s tough because most retail items obviously will have a loss, especially depending where you buy. For example, somewhere like Tiffany’s is going to have a large markup I would say color gems, maybe. But again most pieces of jewelry is not investment and often times diamond value is there however, the best way to get rid of your goods is through private sales. Anything sold back to a jeweler/pawn will be at a large discount. The issue is most people don’t have the time to wait for a private and the more strange/unique your jewelry is the longer it will take to find a private.
@@OsirisDiamonds wrong again 💯 tell your viewers the truth. If not I will. All lion here. Everything thing you say it’s half truths smoke and mirrors 🪞
3 tiers pricing all gem stones 1) retail 2) secondary markets 3) wholesale You’re welcome my friend You choose what price to pay next time Tell the people 😉🦁💪🇦🇺⚡️💜
So glad to see an artificially inflated market take a beating. The ethics behind the bulk of naturally sourced diamonds seems to be easy to ignore. I genuinely hope Lab Grown diamonds destroy that market. Finally India's labour market is contributing something good to society.
My engagement ring is a 3 carat Ceylon sapphire with half carat diamond each side set in platinum and I adore it! I have been a sapphire lover and gem lover for a very long time. My birthstone is aquamarine and have a very large carat ring but because it is a very soft gem I don’t wear it working.
Ammolite and tanzanite are my preferred gemstones. I also love the more traditional emerald, sapphire and rubies. Diamonds are a nice accent to these precious gems. That's all.
Ammonites are the coiled fossil (nautilus type animal) while ammolite is a rare iridescent pearly coating found on some ammonites from Alberta and Madagascar and used as gemstones
@@andyponcia7722 he works for de beers. Time is running out in the diamond industry. He’s not being transparent. I’m an insider. And no he won’t have a bigger private gem collection than me. Real talk so keep it 💯
In your opinion is a lab diamond just as good as a natural diamond and do you think the lab diamond will ultimately overtake the ground of the natural diamond?
It’s crazy I was telling one of my buddies about this recently , I don’t think he believed me . Something is fishy about diamonds today.. why do all jewelers have the same exact items … why is it that years ago nobody would even LOOK at diamonds they’d say ahh I just want plain gold . But now everyone has them .. luckily I got all my stuff tested and appraised but man the game is scary right now .. and honestly it wouldn’t surprise me if jewelers are selling people moisanite or lab and getting away with it . Because most people won’t even go through the trouble of testing
I was about to send some natural diamonds for grading so I can sell them😑 hope the price will even out a little.. Anyway, where did you get the stats? What was the avg price before covid? Great video🙏🏻
Honestly, diamonds even when at their high don’t resell well. You will get almost nothing. The high price is all retail mark up. No one would buy it back for a high price.
Osiris, thank you very much, I’m happy I found your channel - I was thinking about lab creations vs natural and I was told that LCDs (I call them that way) don’t have value at all. I have a discreet collection of natural, but I was looking for color one. I know it takes time to make a video with professional advise, but can you explain how professionals can see the difference? I also would appreciate if you tell about diamond serial numbers - mine don’t have those, or at least I don’t know about.
Glad I could help! The natural diamonds you have are likely not certified. Once certified, they have a laser inscription on the side of the girdle. Value is relative. Lab diamonds will not be bought from pawn shops or diamond dealers, only privates. Pawn shops and dealers only buy natural diamonds at a step discount. SO private is the way to go in any scenario.
Definitely this is a great time to buy natural diamonds. Because the investment here is diamonds with gold. As opposed to lab diamond and gold. If you purchase natural diamond/gold you will receive your money back or maybe less. But if you buy lab diamonds with gold. You will receive way less. Not because of the gold. But because of the diamond not being natural. Only buy gold 14Kt + ! Never 10Kt gold there’s no reason for it.
Every one can check the validaty of gold with simple methods. You can recast it, just sell parts of it, fire wont damage it. All properties Natural Diamonds dont have
To correct your information it is impossible to get 3.5 carat polished from 4 carat stone rough , it will be max 1.5 carat or 2 carat depending on the shape.
Finally, someone that knows what they are talking about. I truly feel sorry for the men that MUST buy a new earth mined diamond from the "blue box" store because their fiance insists that that is the only true rock they will accept on their finger. There are so many great options now, that were not available even 10 years ago...moissanite and lab grown diamonds. Along with my favorite which is Brazilian earth mined diamonds that are heat treated to bring out clarity and color for a fraction of the cost...they are stones that come out of Brazil and are cut and processed of course in India. They are usually sold only in Silver rings not gold to keep costs down but the rocks themselves are true earth-mined diamonds. :)
Just get a CZ if it’s that bad man. There are real diamonds and that other fake stuff. Don’t be fooled. Would you buy an American machine made Ferarri. Exactly, because if it’s not handmade in Italy 🇮🇹 it’s not a Ferrari. It doesn’t matter what engine/process you use, a pig is just a 🐷. 😊😊😊
@@2020Dreamlife A cz is definitely not a diamond. Czs scratch much easier and don't sparkle like a diamond. The price of hpht diamonds is so low right now, it's not much more than a cz. A real diamond will last much longer and has a higher refractive index. Lab diamonds and natural diamonds look exactly the same.
I wondered when this was going to happen. But do Lab Diamonds hold their value as well as natural diamonds? I think it is great for those who want to buy diamonds at a better price point
No, anything that is man-made and mass produced has close to no value in my opinion, but they are a nice alternative that can save money and no difference between Natural or Lab
Colored stones like ruby and saffire and emerslds are holding value the y are rare. Therd are lab grown versions to be had very cheaply and are easy to tell looking under a loupe.
What I am seeing in Australian retailers is they try to sell tiny poor quality lab diamond jewellery for 80% mined diamond jewellery prices. Really shouldn't happen but if people are unwise enough to pay for it, the inflated diamond prices will stay.
Labgrown will be a godsend for the industrial market place for sanders and abrasive uses. That can be no bad thing. It is hard to see a way back for natural diamonds.....The forthcoming over supply of 'lab grown gems' will make them accessible to one and all. One might speculate that larger quality Natural Diamonds that are pre Labgrown (circa 2012 ?) might retain value in terms of antiquity....but once you have your wallpaper pasted with diamonds or have your car wrapped in them - the one on your finger might seem rather feeble....and worse: CHEAP!
I understand that lab diamonds are certainly cheaper to procure. But do they hold their value as well as the natural diamonds ? If you have a need to re-sell the lab versions, that’s probably where you get a rude awakening, where buyers expect to get it for next to nothing.
@@OsirisDiamonds I agree that these are not "investments" as such, and there will be loss in value over time. But the artificial version will drop like a rock, while the natural version's drop will not be anywhere as steep.
This is great news, lets hope consumers continue to buy anything other than diamonds. The diamond industry is such a scam.
You couldn't be more wrong, millions of people live of this industry, from miners in Africa to polishers in India to dealers all over the world, as opposed to a handful of manufacturers that will monopolise the lab grown industry, think outside the box, i know it's hard sometimes.
@@samyezzeddine7436 what was I wrong about? I never said the diamond industry wasn’t huge, of course it employs many people because the prices of diamonds and profit margins are obnoxious. And if you think the earth mined diamond industry is a not monopoly, you don’t know what you are talking about. Debeers controls the market.
@@williamsvohong2981 the marketing campaign for diamonds has people thinking that typical diamonds are rare and therefore command ridiculous prices. A typical 1-2 ct G -H color VS stone are a dime a dozen, yet they cost thousands of dollars and guys are forced to buy them for their wedding and engagement rings.
@@RodSherwood1 Actually for a while already they're on the background with Alrosa, BHP, Rio Tinto and several other big players owning a big part of the production these days. Alos prices are based on supply and demand and are analysed and indicated by Martin Rapaport not De Beers. The reason they don't flood the market with diamonds is to keep this supply and demand chain on par as not to harm businesses and individuals that own stock or personal diamonds. U wouldn't supply the world with double the amount of iphones either cause it will brick their prices. DeBeers hasn't had any big marketing campaigns for a while now and if u just look at what they've meant for the economic growth of Botswana and its people you would think more objectively.
I buy rough diamonds for a living and I support many small scale mining operations in Africa that give opportunity to people less fortunate than you who aren't protected by social security and need this industry to get by in life. Unlike what people still tend to perceive as a business based on tyranny and despair as it was during the time in Sierra Leone when the rebels used diamonds to buy weapons. Apart from those people there are thousands of offices, polishing factories, certificate centers, etc that employ hundreds of thousands of people. So yeh I think I'm good in the way I perceive the reality, it's just a make money quick scam by jewellers who make 80% on lab growns iso 20% on natural with a much lower investment. You're the one getting scammed in the end cause they're worthless the moment u leave the shop. Enjoy your plastic
@@williamsvohong2981prices are fixed . Better off buying a Carson City coin
It isn’t a price collapse.. it’s coming down to what the price should realistically be at. Diamond prices are kept artificially high by controlling supply. Edit: just to be clear, Diamonds are NOT 'rare' - barring a few exceptional finds - this is a myth invented by the major diamond companies to get you to subconsciously attach a high worth to these stones.
I agree it’s a correction.
So true. the price was kept artificially high for decades, by the diamond cartels releasing few diamonds to the public. such a dodgy price model. and people don't ever wonder the history behind the famous south african company that actually started the advertising campaign after WW2 to start the whole "you must have a diamond for an engagement ring" bs trend.
It’s still way too expensive
they are. they’re severely marked up without needing to be
Another person that doesn't understand how the money supply works. Inflation is a product of government and government alone, not supply and demand, not greedy corporations, not you, and not me, but government ( more specifically, central banks).
Thank God. I was almost duped into investing in diamonds 15 or so years ago. They even had the charts to show the steady rise of diamond investing but I didn't bite. I can only look back and smile now.
Were they trying to get you to buy fancy colored diamonds as an investment?
diamond prices have risen faster than the stock market in the last 15 years.
@@justicedemocrat9357I was thinking the same, should’ve bought and sold them 5 years ago….
@@justicedemocrat9357 retail? right...
That's ecactly what I had predicted years ago to an appraiser from an auction house. The same happened with natural pearls when cultured pearls were made available in abundance.
Please go and look at recent auction results for larger natural pearls, they are still not cheap
This is fantastic news and music to my ears! For years, they’ve been over inflating the prices of diamonds. For all these companies to make themselves richer. A selfish as they were. They no longer will. As peoples perspective on things change. And peoples likes also change about time that this happened it took a long time for this to come. I’m sure Tiffany’s & Co, Bulgari, and Louis Vuitton will feel the heat as well
It’s a great market disruption. Keeps these guys in check.
True, I am from Asia. Diamond here do not have high value and not prefered by most in Asia because of low resale value unless diamond with good cut with certification. What in demand is real gold 22k or 24 k. So, Im kinda shock when I went to Europe to find out that gold jewellery there is low in gold content, mostly 18 k but price highly because of diamond. Sometimes the diamond is lab diamond not even have certification but sell price is crazy. The worse is jewelery from luxury brand. So high price.
He’s not high even in the food chain. Time is running out in the diamond industry. Keep shit 💯 I’m an insider
Funny I can't save lab grown diamonds to save my life.
@@hawaandroid2786 18k is not low gold content. Anything higher than that is too soft for jewellery. It warps too early.
Team Lab bc I am pro Africa and the exploitation needs to stop in my beautiful motherland. Make all the lab rocks you can and free the kids of Africa
show a mine where kids are working you cant. Stop spreading disinformation about the diamond industry its not the 90s anymore ! Many botswanian and namibian people have well paid trained jobs and lab growns shifts those jobs to china or india where they arent well paid basically slave labour
Dont forget the cobalt and lithium mines
They will be next
22 years ago I bought 500k in gold and 500k in platinum as a security against the market. I would never do that with diamonds especially with the advent of engineered diamonds.
No doubt I say always. Diamonds are not for investment
@@OsirisDiamonds but, they are a gay guys best friend!
@@OsirisDiamonds i bought 800k this year in diamonds, paid less than 30k for them, so far they all checked out and id say i made a great investment. ill sell for 25% value and still make a killing!
I don't think they can make gold or platinum in the lab ‼️
@@cynthiagonzalez658 nuclear transmutation can synthesize precious metals but we'd need a fusion level energy source to do it somewhat economically.
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I prefer moissanite even over lab grown diamonds. Due to their properties they sparkle much more than diamonds. They also don't seem to get as dirty as diamonds for some reason so very little upkeep. Lab grown is the way to go even for gemstones. No reason to pay insane prices supporting industries that are not environmentally friendly and fuel conflicts.
All great points.
Big same!
Team moissanite!!!
You can’t deny all the bloodshed of natural diamonds.
#FACTS!!! I'm team moissanite too
When I first heard about lab grown diamonds, I figured this price drop was a given. I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner!🤔👍🇨🇦
watching debeers is like watching an old man slide into a warm bath - It's good to see old monopolies like that fall because the refuse to adapt to the consumer, and it's really nice to see the consumer still rules markets!!
Lmao great analogy.
Debeers could’ve invested into lab Diamond and controlled that market but nope and now they’re facing the consequences just like Kodak with cameras
@@evilsanta8585deeBeers IS invested in lab diamonds, why they closed many mines and started buying back large diamonds before covid.
De Beers do produce lab grown diamonds@@evilsanta8585
Actually, deBeers hasn't held a monopoly since the 90s.
Several other miners own major marketshare now.
Well that Monopoly ended!🤣
I’m surprised that didn’t happen years ago when they first came out with the lab diamonds. For jewelry purposes the lab diamonds are perfect. No customer can tell the difference, especially that lab diamonds are clearer. For industrial use, the lab products are an obvious choice. The natural diamonds, especially those yellow or pink are possibly good for collecting, but those semi clear are not as rare as jewelers want us to believe and there is no reason why they should be expensive.
Lab grown cost $2/ct to produce and are not saving the environment any harm. Why people buy them is beyond me
I remember a time when yellow or pink diamonds were considered trash - then they realised they could suck more $ - pink and yellow then became "rare "valuable"
Actually the only way you can tell the difference is if the diamond is perfect. If its perfect its lab grown. Ridiculous really on how they flip the narrative that natural diamonds are better but cant even give a reason why specially when lab grown are perfect.
Ironically the only way to know if a diamond is lab grown is if it is too perfect compared to natural diamonds.
@@Landstalker1999 true
I got married for the first time in my life 6 years ago and when I proposed I did it without a diamond engagement ring. She said yes and we've been married ever since. We did exchange 24 karat gold wedding band rings at the ceremony, but no diamonds were involved. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze.
Buy your wife a diamond and see how she reacts then tell me about the squeeze
Imagine being that cheap
most asians prefer pure gold than diamond
@@jasonb518 diamonds are worthless
Yeah, we here in sea. Usually gives gold ring or any gold jewelry or even gold bar to soon to be wife. We even call it "wedding gold" in our own language.
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Earth diamonds are not rare, do not let retailers sell you on that. Dee beers is no better than OPEC.. They have been selling an idea. Its just a carbon crystal. Lab or from the dirt they are the same
They are not lab are even better at the same size on average..
OPEC sells something that the world needs in order to survive. DeBeers sells bullshit to morons
Extremely rare above 3 carats
The real reason why the price of diamonds is going down is that people are starting to understand that the diamond is the most common of the precious stones. There are a lot more diamonds than coloured stones like rubies, sapphires etc. The reason the diamonds WERE so expensive is because their marketing was cornered by the De Beers company who had imposed a strict monopoly. The artificial diamonds have brought the whole monopoly scam down.
They make rubies too
@@martinsmith852 We are living in a world where everything is fake!
Without a controlled market diamonds would be semi-precious stone.
Looked for a new ring the other day, saw a diamond ring I liked but I thought "I'm not paying $1500 for a stone, a clear stone" the price for a diamond is just silly. Paying thousands for a small gem, nah no thanks anymore.
Damn these societal expectations!
Green Sapphire, star color change sapphires, morganite, peridot, and Turkish color change diaspore I think could have some of the biggest growths.
Wrong. Australian opal. 🔥🔥🔥🌈🌈🌈❤️❤️❤️💯💯💯
Because it was a sham to begin with.
Yep
This would be great lol .. because honestly there are so many good alternatives . I have diamonds but I’m all about moissanite lately
Thank you very much Osiris for a very informative presentation about the diamond industry. Really appreciate your insight!
Diamonds have always been over price since the early 1900s
Facts
Marriage rates have also collapsed, this accounts for some of the demand decrease.
Money is tight
This is a big one single men don't buy diamonds.
It's true Diamonds price are in Bottom and reached 2004-5 price. In Lab diamonds some size reached their bottom like below 5 cts . As i am from Industry in my opinion its good time to buy Diamond if someone is waiting and looking for it as earth diamonds miners stop selling rough as its too low price point for them to run the show. So, either good quality diamond will sell out soon or price will go back up to get new production. Thank you.
If you’re from my industry you will know time is running out for diamond. Stop playing kiddo. And no I’m ain’t talking about the top 1% diamonds. I’m a whistleblower all lion here 💯🦁🔥⚡️💪🇦🇺✊
I agree with you. I think price will stabilize for now. If they tighten up supply, cost will stabilize. Good time to buy.
Great News!!! I would love to facet some rough diamond. Hope prices keep plummeting.
not really into diamonds myself, but as a story, this tells me to own genuinely precious elements of the periodic table as a store of value, that no human alchemy can create, such as gold, as opposed to an infinitely createable material such as diamonds…or worse…crypto, which is infinitely more replicatable even than diamonds.
I'm no expert but the thing with crypto is being able to prove the sequence of transactions prior so you prove the legitimacy of the holding. However there are other threats like hacking, like losing your access key, like governments legislating against it or shutting it down. So far it hasn't come to that but if crypto presents a serious threat it could. JIMO either way interesting times...
@@deborahcurtis1385 yes…or kidnapping and torture until you reveal your keys and good luck getting help from the police…or a totally equivalent version of bitcoin that dilutes its value…over and over again…or the bitcoin programmer community agreeing endless forks…or extreme solar wind events causing mass computer network memory losses…or just some crazy virus like bug that eats away at the distributed ledger…the holes in the crypto bro arguments are endless…
@@deborahcurtis1385 Most crypto is a scam because it literally is just a ponzi scheme.
The way it works is some influential person either creates or buys a bunch of really cheap crypto, then shills it on social media which then convinces their fans to buy into it. This buying action then drives up the price which initiates another buying frenzy by people looking to make a quick buck. The influential person then dumps all their crypto, selling it as fast as possible, making millions and crashing it's price. People then start selling off as fast as possible to make back as much money as they can before it completely crashes. The end result is that wealth is simply transferred from the less fortunate masses to the now even richer influential person.
There are some staple cryptos that are not scams because they act more like fiat currency, where people more or less agree on it's price, but as you said it's very susceptible to outside interference. Bitcoin is always 1 law away from becoming worthless.
precious metals synthesis via nuclear transmutation is a thing, we just dont have enough energy/knowhow to do it economically and at scale.
@@buttlesschap i wont argue against this, but its similar to gold etc being minable in space or at the bottom of the ocean…maybe will happen…but at great exepnse and will require a giant rise in prices to maks it economic. whereas with crypto, seems replicatable for quite low cost by any corporation or billionare that decides to do it. of course the bitcoin bros will froth at the mouth and say im stupid for not recognising the true and fundamental scarcity of bitcoin…but sorry bros, i dont buy those arguments.
People start to realize that real diamonds are as much worth as sand on a beach.
Worth is based on rareness natural is down but when everyone has lab and nobody has natural the lab will become worthless and natural will be move expensive as ever
why am i not seeing the price reductions in diamonds at costco or blue nile?
Good to see you back.
Thank you! Good to be back!
When I was buying an engagement ring for my woman I looked at man made vs mined diamonds. Without a doubt the man made stones were far superior and more affordable however the ring style and material was terrible. I ended up looking at the biggest solid gold ring with 18ct gold without paying attention to the diamond as to me the gold is worth more than the diamond, the missus is happy with it and she has a nice chunk of gold thats actually valuable.
you just went to a bad jewler... a good one has all the right settings and styles for you to choose from.
The divorce gonna cost you more..
@@blondythesuperdog8825
1.) Not everybody gets divorced
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Most of these marriage contracts
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if children were not produced)
However, during the marriage the
couple had the proceeds from
the land in trust to benefit them.
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The cash people were spending on diamonds was the money that the government gave them for groceries and utility bills. That's why the surge in buying diamonds.
Perhaps now the same happens to diamonds what has happened to pearls. Once a pearl necklace was worth a house (as in mansion, not in cottage).
Can you do a video on black diamonds? Does the grading scale matter for black diamonds? What should I look for when shopping for one? How much is too much? Much appreciated
Is it the glasses and mirrors cutting the diamonds like a sharp eye for it? Is it possible a magnifying glass is like the magic hat rabbit closet trick?
It stands to reason that diamond prices would approach the cost of lab grown and moissanite.
I think it will always be higher due to labor cost but certainly it’s being disrupted.
Moissanite sparkles more than diamond 💎🤫😉
Thank you for the video. It was very interesting and I learnt a lot. One request, that you don't have the blue subtitles which are not accurate and very distracting.
Same thing happened to the money supply. Can’t just print Gold yet they print more money. Now Diamonds are running low & slow so they create synthetic ones 🤦🏽♂️
I started by buying Tanzanite twenty five years ago. In 1985 I worked in Kansas City and would walk by Tiffany's every day. They had the most beautiful stones in the window that were a dark purple blue color. I couldn't afford them but I never forgot them. In the early nineties I found a source for those beautiful stones so I started buying a piece at a time. I started educating myself about gemstones in general. I learned that diamonds were not a good investment but if I could buy gemstones only found and mined in one location that as the mines were running out of the supply the prices would increase dramatically. If you look at history when people were displaced and had to leave their country they would sew gold, silver, and gemstones into their clothing and use this to make a new start. Gemstones should be part of everyone's investment strategy. Thank God that's still a secret most people don't know!
Sorry but you are wrong. Large high quality natural diamonds will always be valuable.
@@wmhs02dmDiamonds are not fungible. Gold and silver are fungible. Fungibility is better for barter.
@@wmhs02dm You're wrong. As soon as lab sizes are available that size mined drops in demand and price.
How long until 20ct lab is standard?
How long until 100ct
Informative video. Thank you.
Which online shop is best to buy diamonds
Do you think they will continue to go down in value?
I think it will stabilize. They are slowing down production. Will do another video soon on that. Slow down the supply in hopes to stabilize.
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Welcome aboard! Thanks for the support!
To overcome the problem of fake diamonds, you need to bring the 'influencers' on board. Gift real diamonds to about ten or twenty influencers and have them gushing over the 'real diamond' they have been gifted and you will be amazed at the surge in sales - and prices - which will occur. Influencers are now the new Madison Avenue.
Bought a 3 Carat lab grown Diamond for $2100 dollars. basically cheaper than some of my bags.
Nicely done
🤩🤩🤩🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🔥🔥🔥
Where did you get it?
You still paid too much
@@michaelpratchett4415 included the setting.
Moissanite is rising in popularity. A gem that has double the refraction (sparkle) of a diamond, way more affordable, a 9.25-9.5 on the Mohs hardness scale, I'd personally go with moissanite. The natural moissy is extremely rare, more than a natural diamond.
looks fake and cheap though...
Good. I want studs, have wanted them my entire life. Maybe now I can afford them.
Three 1-carat diamonds, from a 4-carat rough diamond? One 3.50-carat diamond from a 4-carat rough diamond? Can you tell us what cutters get this much yield from their rough?
Your right. I am not 100% accurate. But my point was to explain generally what a cutter does to the rough. If they got that much yield it would be amazing.
I have a gorgeous lab grown diamond, which has been customized just for me. It contains a tiny Autumn leaf that can be seen under the microscope. Can Debeers do that? I don't think so. I've even seen lab grown diamonds cut into beads, flowers, and animal shapes. Diamond cutters have been more artistic with the lab grown rough, with a beautiful result.
Did you get them to put “not for resale” on that too? Or just “gotch”. My man just get a CZ and call it a day. Lab grown. Hahahahha. You mean man made, which means it’s not a diamond. It’s just a rock. Diamonds, just like salt, carbon, water, oxygen, are all from nature and it’s processes. What you have is a man made stone sir. Call it what you like, but it’s not a diamond 💎. You can’t make a diamond. You have something that resembles a diamond. It’s like a beyond meat burger. You’ve got the attributes and such, but something just doesn’t taste the same. Don’t be a fool, you don’t eat fake burgers, why would you buy anything man made that comes from nature. We can’t do it better. It’s just an imitation. Now since you have the information use it.
@@2020Dreamlife You can get ice from a big, ancient glacier. Or you can make ice in your freezer at home. Either way, it is 100% genuine frozen H20.
@@2020Dreamlifeall of this!
@@OhJodi69keep thinking that applies to diamonds 🙄
More and more lab diamond factories are being built. Why should we buy a 1.5 ct lab diamond for $2,000 today, when there will be 10,000 more to choose from by Christmas?
Jewelry Stores have been marking up their $500 lab diamond purchase to $9,000 vs. marking up their natural diamonds, by 30%. In 5 years that $9,000 stone will be worth ten dollars and the natural diamond will be worth 70%, of its original price.
I don’t agree with you on this. Lab diamonds typically don’t go to 9k. Stores always mark up including naturals. Online pricing is competitive.
Sounds like a good time to buy that 4 k round D colour, flawless, zero fluorescent perfect hearts and arrows diamond for my lady.
My daughter lost her wedding ring after 11 years (devastated!).
Insurance gave her 7k and her husband matched it (he felt so bad for her)
She had a choice to make: nice 1 ct or 3 carat moisanite. Which do you think she chose?
1ct
Is the 1ct diamond the same price as the 3ct moissanite? I would take the 1ct diamond if the price is the same.
Lab diamond rings are pretty affordable, if you google around.
I’ll sell her a 3 ct moissanite for 14k lol. Fr they are like $5/carat… oi
Great info!
It’s a good time to invest in diamonds. Historically diamond prices have gone down but always go back up to a new all time high.
That was before hpht, cvd diamond's & Moissanite
only a stupid idiot will consider diamonds as an investments
Wrong. Cash out now thank me and be grateful
@@michaelpratchett4415can’t compare to a natural diamond, and never will.
Diamonds are a scam and a terrible investment as are most gems hence they are not a tier 1 asset.
I once thought about buying diamonds as a place to store wealth, but my seller said that I can lose as much of its value. Diamonds are so small, portable and easier to carry than the equivalent of silver...Its crazy...
It used to be a way to transport a lot of value from place to place but bitcoin ate that lunch
people are finally realizing that diamonds are not that rare and we can make diamonds now. They are way overpriced. Wake up people!!!!
For sure not rare
@@OsirisDiamondsLV bags are not rare either. The market is flooded with fakes and super fakes but I have yet to see any Louis Vuitton store closings 😂. There will always be luxury buyers who want the “real” thing and are willing to pay for it.
We don’t buy the real diamond for our wedding ring but moissanite stone but it was still not cheap as it was new. Finally the scams are being exposed and prices lowered
In the world of diamonds it’s clear ❤❤❤
😍😍😍
Is it a good investment for 5 to 10 years? Purchase now when there is a drop and sell it five years from now when the price stabilises? How much would be the approx profit margin prediction?
Never a profit, always a loss. Diamonds are not investments.
@@OsirisDiamonds could you make a video about “why diamonds are not a good long term investment”. I’m from India and have seen people invest into diamonds here. Is gold good to invest in? A video would be much appreciated!!!
Thank you for your videos!!! I made the correct buy thank to you sir! ❤
Thoughts on Diamond Standard and what they are doing with diamond coins and bars?
Agreed It is very hard to track, but still can find the origin of most diamonds, as well as for coloured stones.
Re sell value and desirability of Lab diamond, cvd, hpht and moisonite it's very low and with the increasing flowin the market in short time will value Zero.
Hey, love your videos! Can you do a video on Colored diamonds please!
How do you make a diamond an interest rate?
Glad I have my 35 year old and 17 year old diamonds. To each his own, but today, I’d rather not get a diamond if it had to be lab grown.
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Just wondering why one should buy a a more expensive natural diamond while the lab grown diamond is the same material and looks the same?
You need to differentiate between common - usual mass good diamonds mostly used for engagement rings and extremely rare colored diamonds (red, pink, blue, green). Unless you can afford a rare flawless 25 carat+ white which is extremely rare you will not get a good return on it.
Colored stones, and i mean good quality natural colored stones mentioned above are increasing in price ridiculous per year due to actually being rare. Just look at auction house results, and i am not even talking about the big player houses but small specialized houses that auction diamonds and you will not believe how prices have developed
Foolishly when the Argyle mine was discovered I bought quite a few natural fancies to invest in. Who would’ve thought this would have happened even to fancies?
What non-diamond jewelry stone holds its value the best?
It’s tough because most retail items obviously will have a loss, especially depending where you buy. For example, somewhere like Tiffany’s is going to have a large markup I would say color gems, maybe. But again most pieces of jewelry is not investment and often times diamond value is there however, the best way to get rid of your goods is through private sales. Anything sold back to a jeweler/pawn will be at a large discount. The issue is most people don’t have the time to wait for a private and the more strange/unique your jewelry is the longer it will take to find a private.
@@OsirisDiamonds wrong again 💯 tell your viewers the truth. If not I will. All lion here. Everything thing you say it’s half truths smoke and mirrors 🪞
@@OsirisDiamonds what are you afraid of bro? And no I don’t expect a reply from you
3 tiers pricing all gem stones
1) retail
2) secondary markets
3) wholesale
You’re welcome my friend
You choose what price to pay next time
Tell the people
😉🦁💪🇦🇺⚡️💜
Haven’t seen any price reductions on retail side yet so - meh!!!
So glad to see an artificially inflated market take a beating. The ethics behind the bulk of naturally sourced diamonds seems to be easy to ignore. I genuinely hope Lab Grown diamonds destroy that market. Finally India's labour market is contributing something good to society.
It’s a good option for buyers
Brilliant presentation ! !!
Many thanks!
My engagement ring is a 3 carat Ceylon sapphire with half carat diamond each side set in platinum and I adore it! I have been a sapphire lover and gem lover for a very long time. My birthstone is aquamarine and have a very large carat ring but because it is a very soft gem I don’t wear it working.
Oh wow! Sounds stunning. I want to dive deep into gems
Ammolite and tanzanite are my preferred gemstones. I also love the more traditional emerald, sapphire and rubies. Diamonds are a nice accent to these precious gems. That's all.
I love Ammonite! I have worn a piece almost daily for 15 years.
Ammonites are the coiled fossil (nautilus type animal) while ammolite is a rare iridescent pearly coating found on some ammonites from Alberta and Madagascar and used as gemstones
Team lab. I just purchased a 3.18 ct D VVS1 hearts and arrows, GIA certified for a ridiculous price compared to 1-2 years ago.
Congrats! ❤️👏🎉🔥🤩 how much sister? Please share 👍😊
Sounds like a stunner! Congrats
GIA is an earth diamond cert. you mean IGI?
@Dirty2Clean1980 gia also has lab grown certificates not just igi.
@@andyponcia7722 he works for de beers. Time is running out in the diamond industry. He’s not being transparent. I’m an insider. And no he won’t have a bigger private gem collection than me. Real talk so keep it 💯
In your opinion is a lab diamond just as good as a natural diamond and do you think the lab diamond will ultimately overtake the ground of the natural diamond?
It’s a great alternative for budget conscious buyers. Many younger buyers consider it superior
Moissanite is smirking😏.
It’s crazy I was telling one of my buddies about this recently , I don’t think he believed me . Something is fishy about diamonds today.. why do all jewelers have the same exact items … why is it that years ago nobody would even LOOK at diamonds they’d say ahh I just want plain gold . But now everyone has them .. luckily I got all my stuff tested and appraised but man the game is scary right now .. and honestly it wouldn’t surprise me if jewelers are selling people moisanite or lab and getting away with it . Because most people won’t even go through the trouble of testing
I want to buy a one-carat diamond for a ring I am getting made... Could you please recommend a good, safe place I could buy online ??
I was about to send some natural diamonds for grading so I can sell them😑 hope the price will even out a little..
Anyway, where did you get the stats? What was the avg price before covid?
Great video🙏🏻
Honestly, diamonds even when at their high don’t resell well. You will get almost nothing. The high price is all retail mark up. No one would buy it back for a high price.
Do you have any recommendations for online retailers? Any Canadian online retailers you’d recommend? Or if you have a video already with suggestions.
Your videos are the best!
No. You're the best!
This is great news! Who needs them?
i think debeers themselves introduced the fancy term lab grown , they are getting rid ofthe stock they have by lowering the price
Osiris, thank you very much, I’m happy I found your channel - I was thinking about lab creations vs natural and I was told that LCDs (I call them that way) don’t have value at all. I have a discreet collection of natural, but I was looking for color one. I know it takes time to make a video with professional advise, but can you explain how professionals can see the difference? I also would appreciate if you tell about diamond serial numbers - mine don’t have those, or at least I don’t know about.
Glad I could help! The natural diamonds you have are likely not certified. Once certified, they have a laser inscription on the side of the girdle. Value is relative. Lab diamonds will not be bought from pawn shops or diamond dealers, only privates. Pawn shops and dealers only buy natural diamonds at a step discount. SO private is the way to go in any scenario.
Definitely this is a great time to buy natural diamonds. Because the investment here is diamonds with gold. As opposed to lab diamond and gold. If you purchase natural diamond/gold you will receive your money back or maybe less. But if you buy lab diamonds with gold. You will receive way less. Not because of the gold. But because of the diamond not being natural. Only buy gold 14Kt + ! Never 10Kt gold there’s no reason for it.
Every one can check the validaty of gold with simple methods. You can recast it, just sell parts of it, fire wont damage it. All properties Natural Diamonds dont have
You’re missing the plot. Natural diamonds have NEVER resold well. It’s all retail markup. They are not special or valuable.
To correct your information it is impossible to get 3.5 carat polished from 4 carat stone rough , it will be max 1.5 carat or 2 carat depending on the shape.
Finally, someone that knows what they are talking about. I truly feel sorry for the men that MUST buy a new earth mined diamond from the "blue box" store because their fiance insists that that is the only true rock they will accept on their finger. There are so many great options now, that were not available even 10 years ago...moissanite and lab grown diamonds. Along with my favorite which is Brazilian earth mined diamonds that are heat treated to bring out clarity and color for a fraction of the cost...they are stones that come out of Brazil and are cut and processed of course in India. They are usually sold only in Silver rings not gold to keep costs down but the rocks themselves are true earth-mined diamonds. :)
Thank you! Options are a wonderful thing.
Where do you like to search for new sources?
I bought these and they are beautiful and very reasonably priced. I have a large blue diamond hpht treated and it's gorgeous 😍
Just get a CZ if it’s that bad man. There are real diamonds and that other fake stuff. Don’t be fooled. Would you buy an American machine made Ferarri. Exactly, because if it’s not handmade in Italy 🇮🇹 it’s not a Ferrari. It doesn’t matter what engine/process you use, a pig is just a 🐷. 😊😊😊
@@2020Dreamlife A cz is definitely not a diamond. Czs scratch much easier and don't sparkle like a diamond. The price of hpht diamonds is so low right now, it's not much more than a cz. A real diamond will last much longer and has a higher refractive index. Lab diamonds and natural diamonds look exactly the same.
When lab grown gets ultra saturated, naturals will start garnering collectable prices
I wondered when this was going to happen. But do Lab Diamonds hold their value as well as natural diamonds? I think it is great for those who want to buy diamonds at a better price point
Nobody buying diamonds to resell
Naturals barely hold any value
Sad but true.@@verydenise
No, anything that is man-made and mass produced has close to no value in my opinion, but they are a nice alternative that can save money and no difference between Natural or Lab
A diamond will give you something back if it’s a good size, color and clarity but you’ll get nothing from a lab other than the value of the metal.
Price of others color stone (sapphire , ruby and others) have been plummeted too likr diamond ?
I believe those are stable.
Colored stones like ruby and saffire and emerslds are holding value the y are rare. Therd are lab grown versions to be had very cheaply and are easy to tell looking under a loupe.
What I am seeing in Australian retailers is they try to sell tiny poor quality lab diamond jewellery for 80% mined diamond jewellery prices. Really shouldn't happen but if people are unwise enough to pay for it, the inflated diamond prices will stay.
Labgrown will be a godsend for the industrial market place for sanders and abrasive uses. That can be no bad thing.
It is hard to see a way back for natural diamonds.....The forthcoming over supply of 'lab grown gems' will make them accessible to one and all.
One might speculate that larger quality Natural Diamonds that are pre Labgrown (circa 2012 ?) might retain value in terms of antiquity....but once you have your wallpaper pasted with diamonds or have your car wrapped in them - the one on your finger might seem rather feeble....and worse: CHEAP!
Naturals have gone down a little in price. I think the market will / has changed for sure. Going back is impossible.
Of course with lab created diamond at only 1 dollar per carat from china, who would still buy natural diamond.
So what you are telling me is that right now is an excellent time to buy natural diamonds 💎
I understand that lab diamonds are certainly cheaper to procure. But do they hold their value as well as the natural diamonds ? If you have a need to re-sell the lab versions, that’s probably where you get a rude awakening, where buyers expect to get it for next to nothing.
The problem is natural diamond resale is also horrific. It’s a lose lose.
@@OsirisDiamonds I agree that these are not "investments" as such, and there will be loss in value over time. But the artificial version will drop like a rock, while the natural version's drop will not be anywhere as steep.
I think 5 ct and over do better