This is the type of caller who can talk non stop for hours.. without getting to any concrete points..n just spew out nonsense.. without understanding what he is talking..
It seems a very wordy argument can be whittled down to: “There has to be…” “There has to be…” If you ever want to see examples of fallacious arguments, there’s no shortage in a theist/believer/apologists’ argument. I realize a fallacious argument doesn’t necessarily mean a claim isn’t true but it’s great reason to discard an argument and request a stronger argument.
Probably in the top three most ridiculous arguments theists make. "You can't explain X, therefore Y explanation must be true by default!" It's an obvious false dilemma, and I have to question the integrity of anyone who attempts to make it, because it's either a lack of integrity, or a lack of reasoning skills so pronounced, I'd have to wonder if they are able to dress themselves without assistance.
@@scottjohnson7248 "It's about the comfort of believing, not knowing. Theists don't know, even the ones that dubiously claim they do." Thats exactly the point: They believe so intensively that they cannot distinguish knowing from believing.
I'm sure, this guy would think differently, if he were on trial for a murder he didn't commit and the Judge directed the jury to make a decision based on their impressions instead of the evidence.
The old “god of the gaps” routine. History shows over and over again everything that was attributed to a god turned out to be “not god”. Not once ever has Anything been god did it….but yet they cling to their ancient voodoo claims. Hilarious!
368 days and still not a single convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods, demigods, souls, spirits, magic, any form of afterlife or other divine or supernatural beings. Something tells me today will be no different.
@@jakobmorningstarwhen i tell them they MUST send me 20 bucks and give them the exact same reasons they give me (eternal damnation if they don't do it, personal experience of miracles, and old book says it so, the creator of the universe thinks they're a fool if they don't do it) they never believe me They're ok giving their lives based on these reasons, but not 20 bucks, somehow
It's refreshing that you have finally found a worthy purpose for your life where you can daily see dramatic numerical progress of your desires and imaginings. You can do this all the way up to the Rapture without missing a single daily calculation! I wish you much joy in your endeavor.
@@wwlib5390 has supplied another failure to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods, demigods, souls, spirits, magic, any form of after life, spiritual raputre or other divine or supernatural beings. I couldn’t keep this count going without failures like yours. 368 days lol
Events that were "genuinely unexplained" previously: Lighting, Earthquakes, Tides ... Black Holes, Quantum Particles. . Science found an explanation to all of these and more and in NO CASE the answer was "an invisible sky god did it." LOLZ
Yes, I was saying to myself repeatedly as I tried to follow this guy’s Gish Gallop on consciousness: we never find a god when we go looking at things and processes for which we lack explanations. And even if we suspected a god, there would be no way to demonstrate it. Unfalsifiable entities using unfalsifiable processes at unfalsifiable points is never an *explanation*.
Callers like this are tiring. Its an example of a guy who has seen some TH-cam videos and did some google searches and now speaking as though he is an authority on the subject.
So the gap is getting bigger...in Astronomy the more powerful the measuring/observing instruments discovers what we didn't know, or could be seen, previously. This is not God, it's progress
The gap isn't getting bigger, though. The gap is getting smaller. Our observation and awareness of how big the gap is, though, is growing. We are seeing more of the gap. But the gap is the gap regardless. And God is shrinking.
His "consciousness" argument is essentially the same as his "God of the Gaps" argument, i.,e., we don't (yet) understand it, so God must be involved. Switched topics, same argument.
@@jayrose8638You are SO right. When I started praying to god, but started the prayer with, "Dear god, with a capital "G"..." then my prayers came true. If you heard about that mountain moving, that was me.😂
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs I think I did hear about that. They said it leaped into the sea. I said surely you mean crumbled but they said it grew legs and jumped into the sea. After hearing that I knew my atheist goose was cooked and turned in my athiest union card.
AXKfUN9m, it's good to know that I'm not the only person who did that. If I remember correctly the Brothers had me write out Genesis 5 (the begats) in Latin, some Marist Brothers have no sense of humour.
Listening to this wonderful show you'd think most of America doesn't have education, schools, libraries, museums, etc. it's as if they all live in a box.
Regarding the unknown, the Atheist's "God of the Gaps" is "We don't understand IT yet", the Theist's "God of the Gaps" is "We don't understand HIM yet".
This caller doesn't understand that 'god of the gaps' is a metafor. He thinks: "if god is in the gaps and the gaps are getting bigger, then god is getting bigger! So there you go!"
Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions are NOT being forced to respect GOD's Sovereignty written in John 17: 3 and to submit to Jesus Christ as the One given by GOD all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 but GOD and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH because the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and the loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 is the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
I'm just picturing the caller all these years later, continuing to look inside _literally_ every gap he comes across, and is stunned that god isn't hiding in there, every single time.
@@jaflenbond7854 Do you even know what you're writing or is it just blind copying? And you should ask your god for better spelling, these strange line breaks are absurd. You're like a badly programmed AI trying to imitate language.
@@TheLevantin He’s pretty much a bot at this point. He did respond at first, but we all later found out he didn’t actually own a bible and he’d never read one either.
@HuxtableK I'm not a Theist I'm a Christian Evangelist Mmmm alright I would say God exists because of the fact we are living studies have shown that there are trillions of bacteria and trillions of germs thousands of chemicals , infections , deceases as well as a impossible direct number of pollutions the reason why we are living is because of a higher power greater than us God the scriptures says in Christ we live , move and have our being if there is no God there is no us no humanity , no people if they is no God 1 paper cut would be enough to kill a person in less than a minute. Saying that medical care , hygen , sanitation , bathing and healthy dieting is enough to combat every germ , pollution , infection , chemical , decease and even parasites is like saying 1 person with a bat , pocket knife and brass knuckle can defeat 1,000 people alone just wouldn't make sense too limited would get overpowered.
Okay let me explain you can't always limit reality based off what you can see , hear and touch like this you can't see or touch or hear a spirit and soul but you would have to lack sense to saw those don't exist yes it is understandable to want to see something to believe it but some things are just common sense like this the anatomy of the body is spirit , soul and body. The reason why you don't understand how Jesus is God is because you're looking at Jesus as just a regular man look let me explain Jesus is God incarnated manifested meaning God clothing himself in flesh. God is Spirit not flesh and blood like this when Jesus preach the gospel , cast out demons , heal the sick , raised the dead ect it wasn't his flesh doing it because generally speaking flesh and blood can't do this since God is Spirit he doesn't need to sleep or eat or drink liquids or get exhausted or sweaty or strained out like we do God don't get cramps Jesus said I do nothing of my own meaning it wasn't his flesh and blood doing it. It was the Spirit of God Jesus prophesied of his death , betrayal , world ending ect. Prophesying is the fortelling of a event to come Jesus did it by his spirit the Holy spirit of God that is Al-knowing , Almighty , healer , deliverer , salvator , maker of Heaven and Earth that's why God is the Holy Spirit. That same spirit raise that body up from the dead.
In case anybody missed it, ApoTheosis literally wrote "bukkake doesn't sound like that" in response to one of my Limericks. Which inspired me to write another Limerick! 😇
You're pretty cocky for being the center of attention in a bukkake. Waka waka, Fozzie. But you're really the joke about a bloke getting his spokes broke. Necking D as he goes guk-guk-guk and chokes. An atheist cat in the ass hat rhymes, like unintelligent designs, a sign of spiraling downward times from the minds of degenerate kinds. Holgirlubuttski, was he really Fozzie or was he fuzzy from BALL hair on his arse wall rubbed ALL bear until there was nothing at all there?
Apot says that he's sure he knows How the sound of "bukkake" goes He said "it doesn't sound like that I know it sounds more like 'splat' I can hear it when DaMonKey blows!"
Exactly! God is the creator of all things, not just somethings. Thank God for atheism 🙏 And a good Friday morning AXP fans and theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 🤠
It demonstrates that the god is not omnipotent. He can't help but create atheism since he doesn't have the power to make any impact in our reality that can give evidence to whether he exists or not.
A simple way of saying it is that the more things we used to ascribe to God, e.g., lightning, volcanoes, comets, etc., we now have natural explanations for. That is the gap that's shrinking. That history suggests that ascribing things you don't understand to God is not a good path to truth. Saying that this or that phenomena is caused by God also gives you an excuse not to think about it any further.
Every time we thought a god was responsible for something, we later found a natural cause. Gods have never revealed any of those 95% of things we don't know. Dude's god is pretty useless.
Let's agree that a god of the gaps is a bad idea. Now listen to my god of the gaps argument. This guy needs to go to school. Maybe not an American one. To learn logic.
The god of the gaps fallacy doesn't change at all depending on the amount or size of the gaps we don't understand, it's still the god of the gaps and it's still a garbage argument.
@@tylerdyson8410 Because I read the bible as well as the myths that inspired the bible (yes, the bible borrowed from OLDER stories like the flood ripping off the Epic of Gilgamesh).
The tv signal analogy is a crap analogy because in that analogy you ARE the tv signal. It's not a question of not being able to detect an existent outside signal because your tv is broken, it's like saying the tv signal can't detect itself without a working tv, it's nonsensical.
The god of the gaps isn’t about how much we know or don’t know in general, it’s about moving the goalposts so that god is always in the “we don’t know” area. How does lightning happen? God! Well now we know how lightning works and no god needed. How do we protect ourselves from disease? Pray to god! Except now we know how germs and it’s not god. Now we know so much god is reduced to ‘How does dark matter work?’
Conversation is going nowhere . END IT. Caller is talking for talkings sense, no purpose in mind. BYE . He cannot tie things together. Specious argument. CONVERSATION TO NOWHERE.
His statement of the 'God of the gaps" means that he is contributing all of the science that we've yet to understand to God. And if we discover more science that needs further understanding, he is automatically throwing it into the "Therefore, God did it." pile, as if it belongs there by default. He clearly hasn't thought that one through. As far as consciousness goes, it's easy for people to confused consciousness with sentience. Consider artificial consciousness for a moment. Say a thermostat. It detects when the air reaches a certain temperature, and it connects power to the switch, and sends a signal through a wire to engage the startup process of your AC or furnace. Now let's consider natural consciousness. Say like a blade of grass. A blade of grass could be considered a "3" on a scale of 1-10, measured for consciousness. It is aware of it's environment in regards to heat, humidity, sunlight. It reacts to it's environment. The roots grow deeper during dry weather, in an attempt to reach moister from the soil. It's blades follow the sun light. All plants have these characteristics. Humans are aware of their environment. Sentient or not, that's a fact. And that is our consciousness. Nothing more, nothing less. We sense heat and cold. Our senses, such as our site, our sense of smell, etc... is a much higher level of consciousness than a blade of grass, and along with our higher intelligence, we can contemplate on such things, and conclude things to our advantage. I would speculate that the level of consciousness that Humans possess, on a scale of 1-10, would be hopefully a 6. And I could make a good argument for the case that our higher level of consciousness has contributed greatly to our being sentient. Nope, not the "hard question" at all.
There is a box. Until you take the lid off you don't know what is in the box. That is one thing i dont know. I take the lid off and inside is 100 smaller boxex. I now know what was in that first box. I have learnt something. But now i don't know what is in the hundred boxes. This doesn't mean i know less , now that i know those 100 boxes exist. I didn't know what was in the those boxes before i knew they existed. How hard is that to understand. Btw inside the boxes was every bit of indisputable evidence for god that we have. Im wiling to tell you but it will cost you.
You cant explain it then just use the classic god of the gaps explanation! " randomness" aka the god of mindless luck! Works everytime in a atheists orbit!!
"Ayn Rand's philosophy has changed thousands of lives, including my own, and has the power to change the course of history". -Leonard Peikoff- Objectivist
I sort of understand what this rambling god bothering muppet means, but even if we grant that the questions we answer do actually throw up more questions for science to answer, the actual answer so far has NEVER been "god did it". Never. Not once. Ever. So whilst there might be more "gaps", not one needs filling with an imaginary sky daddy. "Religion. The ever eroding island of scientific ignorance. " A quote from the aforementioned Neil Degrasse Tyson. Astrophysicist
Is Dawkin's DNA holds, and genes are, "digital information," and the fact that never is symbolic information (symbols in linear organization which has a specific, meaningful relationship to something external to the material holding the pattern) created by random process but requires an intelligent agent to place those symbols via planning, into meaningful order, too big a gsp for random processes to do it? Is the structure of an atom too complex for random values of its components to permit its behsvior? Does your adult body's DNA length, if connected and stretched out, reach from Earth to the Sun and back 30 times, and 20+ of those lengths have function at nanometer level in your current cell's functioning, or is part of your evolutionsry history? A caterpillar into butterfly via orphan genes and new non-coding DNA stretches, by random processes? These are gaps AUs wide. How wide must a gap be that a God is required, and no random process can fill? There are many many many more revealed by scientific evidence.
bible ' Jonah camped out 3 nites in belly of the whale ' quran ' Jonah swallowed and spit out immediately from the mouth of the whale ' what does science say
"what does science say" Science says there are many whales in the Mediterranean They are found between Italy and Greece (The Aegean) and further west of Italy closer to France...apparently not in the area of the middle east... So both stories seems wrong... Also, the big whales do not eat large prey but plankton so would not try to eat a person...
@@tylerdyson8410 Why can’t you post a grammatically correct sentence? You remind me of “Stan” the Muslim with the obsession with ketamine and addiction, he can’t post anything coherent either.
John 3 16 invites you to know God's love and promise to you. As you implement the teachings and character of Jesus into your daily life, you will have the opportunity to experience what the disciples came to know - that Jesus is the Way and Truth and has the Words of everlasting life.
They have accepted evolution for the most part, even the Pope. You might be in for a very long wait. Meanwhile, there is more proof for evolution than there is for gravity.
Evolution is one of the most obviously true theories in science. All you need is heritability, mutation, and selection pressure. All incontrovertibly exist.
If you ever find yourself questioning your existence or you want answers about what your purpose is in this life,The Q u r a n is the only book in the world which will give you the true answers to these questions.
"will give you the true answers to these questions." What part of the quran tells you how to build a computer? a cell phone? Grow up... primitive religions only have a few true answers... IF you manage to figure out a way to twist the wording to maybe fit something in a generalised manner...
We don't. We observe that you claim we deserve eternal torment and agony simply for not agreeing with you. That's generally referred to as being hateful.
Hell is from Nordic mythology Hel (meaning: the hidden) was the goddess of Helheim. The place where non-warriors ended up! Warriors went to Valhalla. Hell is not a Christian "invention"
It's pointless for the atheist to ask for evidence that god exists. Let's look at one of many examples of why this is true. Would some atheists agree that they believe there's evidence for ghosts? Hard to believe, but those kinds of atheists are out there and they would argue with the staunchest atheist that says they're full of it. Yet, that doesn't change the separate experiences of either atheist. However, for the atheist that believes there's evidence for ghosts, why would they say there's no evidence for god? Because of the unknowns. You would believe there's evidence for non-physical entities, but you wouldn't have to call them god or even believe there's evidence for god. There would still be unknowns to appeal to. Now, you come right back to the circular reasoning. "What's your evidence for the existence of god?". 😂
Apot says that he's sure he knows How the sound of "bukkake" goes He said "it doesn't sound like that I know it sounds more like 'splat' I can hear it when DaMonKey blows!"
It's pointless for christians to ask for the evidence that Enki, Vishnu, Horus, Odin, Zeus, Pangu, Kamuy and Quetzalcoatl exist. Let's look at one of many examples of why this is true. Would some christians agree that they believe there's evidence for Santa and the tooth fairy? Hard to believe, but those kinds of christians are out there and they would argue with the staunchest christian that says they're full of it. Yet, that doesn't change the separate experiences of either christian. However, for the christian that believes there's evidence for Santa and the tooth fairy, why would they say there's no evidence for Enki, Vishnu, Horus, Odin, Zeus, Pangu, Kamuy and Quetzalcoatl?
@@holgerlubotzki3469You're pretty cocky for being the center of attention in a bukkake. Waka waka, Fozzie. But you're really the joke about a bloke getting his spokes broke. Necking D as he goes guk-guk-guk and chokes. An atheist cat in the ass hat rhymes, like unintelligent designs, a sign of spiraling downward times from the minds of degenerate kinds. Holgirlubuttski, was he really Fozzie or was he fuzzy from BALL hair on his arse wall rubbed ALL bear until there was nothing at all there?
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what if i need salvation from jesus? that lunatic threatens to torture me forever because he couldn't give me enough reason to believe he exists. if he really exists he's kind of a prick to be honest.
God warns us not to trust in man Jer 17:5 SGV As for all we know, you are an agent of Satan! God bless The Atheist Experience 🙏 Peace Love Empathy Always Brother 🤠
@wayneharrison One. You only have the illusion that it's separated when you cut it. When it's interwoven onto a fabric it is still a whole How whole is a pie? Lol!
This is the type of caller who can talk non stop for hours.. without getting to any concrete points..n just spew out nonsense.. without understanding what he is talking..
well said ,his mind is all over the place, at the same time nowhere!
thats the b type of caller these god haters want.
@@peterzinya1Great literacy skills there, devil dodger.
It seems a very wordy argument can be whittled down to:
“There has to be…”
“There has to be…”
If you ever want to see examples of fallacious arguments, there’s no shortage in a theist/believer/apologists’ argument.
I realize a fallacious argument doesn’t necessarily mean a claim isn’t true but it’s great reason to discard an argument and request a stronger argument.
He says the God of the Gaps argument is bad.
Then gives an argument that is nothing more than a God of the Gaps argument.
Exactly what I came here to say 😂
A while ago, people didn't know what a 'Thunderstorm' was.
Well, there's Thor.
That was easy.
No it's Zeus
@@odessa745 Could be, but I live in a different part of the world.
They are just SO DESPERATE for there to be a magical overseer 😅
He was on for 27 minutes and said absolutely nothing.
He said plenty. And he is listening to the right voices and almost getting there. He will be an atheist by now, I'd nearly put money in it.
This guy is allowed to vote....think of that for a second, and he works in surveillance!!! 🤦🤦♂
I think he’s just a security guard 😅
@TonyCox1351 same man. This guy shouldn't even be in charge of his own wallet!
@@marcogifuni999you think the line is even close to wallet? he shouldn’t be in charge of his own blinking
We all know how these brainless idiots vote.
@@TeslaGengar Mall cop.
Probably in the top three most ridiculous arguments theists make. "You can't explain X, therefore Y explanation must be true by default!" It's an obvious false dilemma, and I have to question the integrity of anyone who attempts to make it, because it's either a lack of integrity, or a lack of reasoning skills so pronounced, I'd have to wonder if they are able to dress themselves without assistance.
That seems to be the reson d'etre of creationists
What do you call someone incapable of being ok with the discomfort of not knowing?
A theist
Correction. It's about the comfort of believing, not knowing. Theists don't know, even the ones that dubiously claim they do.
I don't think anyone is ok with the discomfort, we just don't all go around pretending otherwise.
@@scottjohnson7248 "It's about the comfort of believing, not knowing. Theists don't know, even the ones that dubiously claim they do."
Thats exactly the point: They believe so intensively that they cannot distinguish knowing from believing.
It’s always a feeling with these folks.
“Science” is NOT about stating what percentage of everything we understand.
I would say we understand 100% of what we understand
I'm sure, this guy would think differently, if he were on trial for a murder he didn't commit and the Judge directed the jury to make a decision based on their impressions instead of the evidence.
Dude is lost in the gaps.
The old “god of the gaps” routine. History shows over and over again everything that was attributed to a god turned out to be “not god”. Not once ever has Anything been god did it….but yet they cling to their ancient voodoo claims.
Hilarious!
368 days and still not a single convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods, demigods, souls, spirits, magic, any form of afterlife or other divine or supernatural beings.
Something tells me today will be no different.
yOu GoTtA BeLiEvEeEeE yOu DoNt NeEd ReAsOnS
@@jakobmorningstarwhen i tell them they MUST send me 20 bucks and give them the exact same reasons they give me (eternal damnation if they don't do it, personal experience of miracles, and old book says it so, the creator of the universe thinks they're a fool if they don't do it) they never believe me
They're ok giving their lives based on these reasons, but not 20 bucks, somehow
It's refreshing that you have finally found a worthy purpose for your life where you can daily see dramatic numerical progress of your desires and imaginings. You can do this all the way up to the Rapture without missing a single daily calculation! I wish you much joy in your endeavor.
@@wwlib5390 has supplied another failure to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods, demigods, souls, spirits, magic, any form of after life, spiritual raputre or other divine or supernatural beings.
I couldn’t keep this count going without failures like yours.
368 days lol
@@jayrose8638 Yeah for you! so much you can be proud of! I'll be sure to help keep your tally going as long as I'm here - I WANT you to succeed.
Notice his word at the end is "by default". That summarizes his argument for the entire call. What a waste of time.
Events that were "genuinely unexplained" previously: Lighting, Earthquakes, Tides ... Black Holes, Quantum Particles.
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Science found an explanation to all of these and more and in NO CASE the answer was "an invisible sky god did it."
LOLZ
Yes, I was saying to myself repeatedly as I tried to follow this guy’s Gish Gallop on consciousness: we never find a god when we go looking at things and processes for which we lack explanations. And even if we suspected a god, there would be no way to demonstrate it.
Unfalsifiable entities using unfalsifiable processes at unfalsifiable points is never an *explanation*.
Callers like this are tiring. Its an example of a guy who has seen some TH-cam videos and did some google searches and now speaking as though he is an authority on the subject.
So the gap is getting bigger...in Astronomy the more powerful the measuring/observing instruments discovers what we didn't know, or could be seen, previously. This is not God, it's progress
The gap isn't getting bigger, though. The gap is getting smaller. Our observation and awareness of how big the gap is, though, is growing. We are seeing more of the gap.
But the gap is the gap regardless. And God is shrinking.
@@HuxtableK God is NOT shrinking.
God would have to exist to be able to shrink. lol
@AdamBladeTaylor The space where these theists hide their god is shrinking though.
His "consciousness" argument is essentially the same as his "God of the Gaps" argument, i.,e., we don't (yet) understand it, so God must be involved. Switched topics, same argument.
GOD EXISTS BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THINGS!
Last time I filled an exam's answers with "god" I flunked. Surprisingly not the lowest mark in class.
Well I think I see the problem.
You didn’t use a capital “G”
@@jayrose8638You are SO right. When I started praying to god, but started the prayer with, "Dear god, with a capital "G"..." then my prayers came true.
If you heard about that mountain moving, that was me.😂
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs I think I did hear about that.
They said it leaped into the sea.
I said surely you mean crumbled but they said it grew legs and jumped into the sea.
After hearing that I knew my atheist goose was cooked and turned in my athiest union card.
@jayrose8638 I regret paying my atheist union dues this month. And I don't think there's any refunds.
AXKfUN9m, it's good to know that I'm not the only person who did that.
If I remember correctly the Brothers had me write out Genesis 5 (the begats) in Latin, some Marist Brothers have no sense of humour.
Listening to this wonderful show you'd think most of America doesn't have education, schools, libraries, museums, etc. it's as if they all live in a box.
Education cannot prevent willful ignorance
Regarding the unknown, the Atheist's "God of the Gaps" is "We don't understand IT yet", the Theist's "God of the Gaps" is "We don't understand HIM yet".
This caller doesn't understand that 'god of the gaps' is a metafor. He thinks: "if god is in the gaps and the gaps are getting bigger, then god is getting bigger! So there you go!"
Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
are
NOT being forced to respect GOD's Sovereignty written in John 17: 3 and to submit to Jesus Christ as the One given by GOD all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18
but
GOD and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
because
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and the loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth
who
willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 is the guarantee
that
all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
He seems so confused. I have no idea where to start.
I'm just picturing the caller all these years later, continuing to look inside _literally_ every gap he comes across, and is stunned that god isn't hiding in there, every single time.
@@jaflenbond7854 Do you even know what you're writing or is it just blind copying? And you should ask your god for better spelling, these strange line breaks are absurd. You're like a badly programmed AI trying to imitate language.
@@TheLevantin
He’s pretty much a bot at this point. He did respond at first, but we all later found out he didn’t actually own a bible and he’d never read one either.
Of we don't know, it means we do not know. It doesn't mean a God e,ists
Why you Atheist?
@@tylerdyson8410 I am an atheist because theists have not given me a good reason to be a theist. Really simple.
@HuxtableK I'm not a Theist I'm a Christian Evangelist Mmmm alright I would say God exists because of the fact we are living studies have shown that there are trillions of bacteria and trillions of germs thousands of chemicals , infections , deceases as well as a impossible direct number of pollutions the reason why we are living is because of a higher power greater than us God the scriptures says in Christ we live , move and have our being if there is no God there is no us no humanity , no people if they is no God 1 paper cut would be enough to kill a person in less than a minute. Saying that medical care , hygen , sanitation , bathing and healthy dieting is enough to combat every germ , pollution , infection , chemical , decease and even parasites is like saying 1 person with a bat , pocket knife and brass knuckle can defeat 1,000 people alone just wouldn't make sense too limited would get overpowered.
Okay let me explain you can't always limit reality based off what you can see , hear and touch like this you can't see or touch or hear a spirit and soul but you would have to lack sense to saw those don't exist yes it is understandable to want to see something to believe it but some things are just common sense like this the anatomy of the body is spirit , soul and body. The reason why you don't understand how Jesus is God is because you're looking at Jesus as just a regular man look let me explain Jesus is God incarnated manifested meaning God clothing himself in flesh. God is Spirit not flesh and blood like this when Jesus preach the gospel , cast out demons , heal the sick , raised the dead ect it wasn't his flesh doing it because generally speaking flesh and blood can't do this since God is Spirit he doesn't need to sleep or eat or drink liquids or get exhausted or sweaty or strained out like we do God don't get cramps Jesus said I do nothing of my own meaning it wasn't his flesh and blood doing it. It was the Spirit of God Jesus prophesied of his death , betrayal , world ending ect. Prophesying is the fortelling of a event to come Jesus did it by his spirit the Holy spirit of God that is Al-knowing , Almighty , healer , deliverer , salvator , maker of Heaven and Earth that's why God is the Holy Spirit. That same spirit raise that body up from the dead.
@@tylerdyson8410 Lot of words to give us nothing useful.
In case anybody missed it, ApoTheosis literally wrote "bukkake doesn't sound like that" in response to one of my Limericks.
Which inspired me to write another Limerick! 😇
"ApoTheosis literally wrote "bukkake doesn't "
Well, I'm sure he's been on the receiving end often enough to know...
You're pretty cocky for being the center of attention in a bukkake. Waka waka, Fozzie.
But you're really the joke about a bloke getting his spokes broke. Necking D as he goes guk-guk-guk and chokes. An atheist cat in the ass hat rhymes, like unintelligent designs, a sign of spiraling downward times from the minds of degenerate kinds. Holgirlubuttski, was he really Fozzie or was he fuzzy from BALL hair on his arse wall rubbed ALL bear until there was nothing at all there?
@@t800fantasm2It looks like Apot may be having a stroke or something.
Apot says that he's sure he knows
How the sound of "bukkake" goes
He said "it doesn't sound like that
I know it sounds more like 'splat'
I can hear it when DaMonKey blows!"
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs He's totally triggered by my use of poetic license!
Exactly! God is the creator of all things, not just somethings.
Thank God for atheism 🙏
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It demonstrates that the god is not omnipotent. He can't help but create atheism since he doesn't have the power to make any impact in our reality that can give evidence to whether he exists or not.
Yes, heil Smergle, the all-rounder!
A simple way of saying it is that the more things we used to ascribe to God, e.g., lightning, volcanoes, comets, etc., we now have natural explanations for. That is the gap that's shrinking. That history suggests that ascribing things you don't understand to God is not a good path to truth. Saying that this or that phenomena is caused by God also gives you an excuse not to think about it any further.
@22:35 “Let me put a dent in that situation.” Pounds head against wall. “Let me finish.”
Joe has too much time on his hand and has nobody to talk to.
Every time we thought a god was responsible for something, we later found a natural cause. Gods have never revealed any of those 95% of things we don't know. Dude's god is pretty useless.
Let's agree that a god of the gaps is a bad idea. Now listen to my god of the gaps argument. This guy needs to go to school. Maybe not an American one. To learn logic.
The god of the gaps fallacy doesn't change at all depending on the amount or size of the gaps we don't understand, it's still the god of the gaps and it's still a garbage argument.
So his argument is that god is in the ignorance of our understanding?
Let's use physics and quantum physics and astrophysics to prove God, even though the church had nothing to do with science
Great game like always!
Why you Atheist?
@@tylerdyson8410 Tyler grow up...
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He heard what she said but had no comprehension of it.
“They don’t know that we know they know” Regina Phillange
Excellent
*Phalange
Can't explain something in a scientific way? Must have been Enki, Vishnu, Horus, Odin, Zeus, Pangu, Kamuy and Quetzalcoatl!
Why you Atheist?
@@tylerdyson8410 Tyler grow up...
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@@tylerdyson8410 Because I read the bible as well as the myths that inspired the bible (yes, the bible borrowed from OLDER stories like the flood ripping off the Epic of Gilgamesh).
The tv signal analogy is a crap analogy because in that analogy you ARE the tv signal. It's not a question of not being able to detect an existent outside signal because your tv is broken, it's like saying the tv signal can't detect itself without a working tv, it's nonsensical.
Even if god is real, he'd still have to prove its his god.
I can't explain why people get cancer.
Thats Gawd
The god of the gaps isn’t about how much we know or don’t know in general, it’s about moving the goalposts so that god is always in the “we don’t know” area. How does lightning happen? God! Well now we know how lightning works and no god needed. How do we protect ourselves from disease? Pray to god! Except now we know how germs and it’s not god. Now we know so much god is reduced to ‘How does dark matter work?’
The irrefutable evidence of the existence of God is the fact that " HUMANITY IS NOT GOD "!
That is the "consciousness of the gaps" argument.
Conversation is going nowhere . END IT. Caller is talking for talkings sense, no purpose in mind. BYE . He cannot tie things together. Specious argument. CONVERSATION TO NOWHERE.
This fellow cannot explain how his phone works. Geezus done it. At least we know that phones exist.
Wow. He should not speak out loud.
What a useless conversation.
His statement of the 'God of the gaps" means that he is contributing all of the science that we've yet to understand to God. And if we discover more science that needs further understanding, he is automatically throwing it into the "Therefore, God did it." pile, as if it belongs there by default. He clearly hasn't thought that one through.
As far as consciousness goes, it's easy for people to confused consciousness with sentience. Consider artificial consciousness for a moment. Say a thermostat. It detects when the air reaches a certain temperature, and it connects power to the switch, and sends a signal through a wire to engage the startup process of your AC or furnace.
Now let's consider natural consciousness. Say like a blade of grass. A blade of grass could be considered a "3" on a scale of 1-10, measured for consciousness. It is aware of it's environment in regards to heat, humidity, sunlight. It reacts to it's environment. The roots grow deeper during dry weather, in an attempt to reach moister from the soil. It's blades follow the sun light. All plants have these characteristics.
Humans are aware of their environment. Sentient or not, that's a fact. And that is our consciousness. Nothing more, nothing less. We sense heat and cold. Our senses, such as our site, our sense of smell, etc... is a much higher level of consciousness than a blade of grass, and along with our higher intelligence, we can contemplate on such things, and conclude things to our advantage. I would speculate that the level of consciousness that Humans possess, on a scale of 1-10, would be hopefully a 6. And I could make a good argument for the case that our higher level of consciousness has contributed greatly to our being sentient. Nope, not the "hard question" at all.
*Astrophysicist
There is a box. Until you take the lid off you don't know what is in the box. That is one thing i dont know.
I take the lid off and inside is 100 smaller boxex. I now know what was in that first box. I have learnt something.
But now i don't know what is in the hundred boxes. This doesn't mean i know less , now that i know those 100 boxes exist. I didn't know what was in the those boxes before i knew they existed.
How hard is that to understand.
Btw inside the boxes was every bit of indisputable evidence for god that we have. Im wiling to tell you but it will cost you.
If there was a God .we would all know.
Not just the indrocationed
There's a specific system in USA to raised them stupid? Sometimes I get that feeling.
We are taught grammar.
I don't know about how they be raised, but Rupert the Bastard has done a great job of keeping them stupid and ignorant.
You cant explain it then just use the classic god of the gaps explanation! " randomness" aka the god of mindless luck! Works everytime in a atheists orbit!!
"Ayn Rand's philosophy has changed thousands of lives, including my own, and has the power to change the course of history".
-Leonard Peikoff- Objectivist
Why do people try so hard to argue for a god that is so fucking evil in his own book they need to read the fucking book
If there really was a good god out there somewhere in space 🚀 we would've already know how He or she looks and all
He needs shut down alot quicker…he loves hearing himself🎉🎉🎉
I sort of understand what this rambling god bothering muppet means, but even if we grant that the questions we answer do actually throw up more questions for science to answer, the actual answer so far has NEVER been "god did it".
Never. Not once. Ever.
So whilst there might be more "gaps", not one needs filling with an imaginary sky daddy.
"Religion.
The ever eroding island of scientific ignorance. "
A quote from the aforementioned
Neil Degrasse Tyson.
Astrophysicist
All magical sky grandads are man made.. all of them.
Believes in god with no proof.
Is Dawkin's DNA holds, and genes are, "digital information," and the fact that never is symbolic information (symbols in linear organization which has a specific, meaningful relationship to something external to the material holding the pattern) created by random process but requires an intelligent agent to place those symbols via planning, into meaningful order, too big a gsp for random processes to do it?
Is the structure of an atom too complex for random values of its components to permit its behsvior?
Does your adult body's DNA length, if connected and stretched out, reach from Earth to the Sun and back 30 times, and 20+ of those lengths have function at nanometer level in your current cell's functioning, or is part of your evolutionsry history?
A caterpillar into butterfly via orphan genes and new non-coding DNA stretches, by random processes?
These are gaps AUs wide.
How wide must a gap be that a God is required, and no random process can fill?
There are many many many more revealed by scientific evidence.
bible ' Jonah camped out 3 nites in belly of the whale ' quran ' Jonah swallowed and spit out immediately from the mouth of the whale ' what does science say
Again, why would "science" say anything about theistic mythos?
Why you Atheist?
"what does science say"
Science says there are many whales in the Mediterranean
They are found between Italy and Greece (The Aegean) and further west of Italy closer to France...apparently not in the area of the middle east...
So both stories seems wrong...
Also, the big whales do not eat large prey but plankton so would not try to eat a person...
@@tylerdyson8410 Tyler grow up...
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@@tylerdyson8410
Why can’t you post a grammatically correct sentence? You remind me of “Stan” the Muslim with the obsession with ketamine and addiction, he can’t post anything coherent either.
John 3 16 invites you to know God's love and promise to you. As you implement the teachings and character of Jesus into your daily life, you will have the opportunity to experience what the disciples came to know - that Jesus is the Way and Truth and has the Words of everlasting life.
8:12
The Catholic Church hasn't yet figured out that evolution is impossible.
Most people who are science-illiterate would say that.
They have accepted evolution for the most part, even the Pope. You might be in for a very long wait. Meanwhile, there is more proof for evolution than there is for gravity.
And biologists haven't discovered that, either. Which is why we accept evolution. Because it is observably possible.
It was 1950 that the Vatican stated that evolution is compatible with Catholic teachings on creation.
Evolution is one of the most obviously true theories in science. All you need is heritability, mutation, and selection pressure. All incontrovertibly exist.
If you ever find yourself questioning your existence or you want answers about what your purpose is in this life,The
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is the only book in the world which will give you the true answers to these questions.
"will give you the true answers to these questions."
What part of the quran tells you how to build a computer? a cell phone?
Grow up... primitive religions only have a few true answers... IF you manage to figure out a way to twist the wording to maybe fit something in a generalised manner...
I don't see a reason to trust what that book says over any other.
Lord Krishna says otherwise.
If I tell atheists they’re going to hell, they’ll call me hateful😂😂😂So if you don’t believe in God then how do you believe in hell🤣🤣💀
We don't. We observe that you claim we deserve eternal torment and agony simply for not agreeing with you. That's generally referred to as being hateful.
@ We’re not being hateful if we’re telling you to choose the right path…Ya’ll have chose to stay in Death…so hell is your doom💣💥
@Gracia.J.17demonstrate this path exists.
Hell is from Nordic mythology
Hel (meaning: the hidden) was the goddess of Helheim.
The place where non-warriors ended up! Warriors went to Valhalla.
Hell is not a Christian "invention"
By your own standards isn't wishing evil upon people evil itself?
I am following Jesus Christ and Lord and King.
Are they on social media?
OP shouldn’t stalk anyone.
Why do you need to tell us?
Follow him as he leaves this channel and doesn't come back.
@@OokEekTheLibraian6708 Because Jesus died for you and everyone who wants him.
It's pointless for the atheist to ask for evidence that god exists. Let's look at one of many examples of why this is true. Would some atheists agree that they believe there's evidence for ghosts? Hard to believe, but those kinds of atheists are out there and they would argue with the staunchest atheist that says they're full of it. Yet, that doesn't change the separate experiences of either atheist. However, for the atheist that believes there's evidence for ghosts, why would they say there's no evidence for god?
Because of the unknowns. You would believe there's evidence for non-physical entities, but you wouldn't have to call them god or even believe there's evidence for god. There would still be unknowns to appeal to. Now, you come right back to the circular reasoning. "What's your evidence for the existence of god?". 😂
Apot says that he's sure he knows
How the sound of "bukkake" goes
He said "it doesn't sound like that
I know it sounds more like 'splat'
I can hear it when DaMonKey blows!"
It's pointless for christians to ask for the evidence that Enki, Vishnu, Horus, Odin, Zeus, Pangu, Kamuy and Quetzalcoatl exist. Let's look at one of many examples of why this is true. Would some christians agree that they believe there's evidence for Santa and the tooth fairy? Hard to believe, but those kinds of christians are out there and they would argue with the staunchest christian that says they're full of it. Yet, that doesn't change the separate experiences of either christian. However, for the christian that believes there's evidence for Santa and the tooth fairy, why would they say there's no evidence for Enki, Vishnu, Horus, Odin, Zeus, Pangu, Kamuy and Quetzalcoatl?
@Ghalaghor_McAllistor Because we can trace the stories of Santa Claus back to the people who admitted it was fiction and where they got the idea. 😂
@@holgerlubotzki3469You're pretty cocky for being the center of attention in a bukkake. Waka waka, Fozzie.
But you're really the joke about a bloke getting his spokes broke. Necking D as he goes guk-guk-guk and chokes. An atheist cat in the ass hat rhymes, like unintelligent designs, a sign of spiraling downward times from the minds of degenerate kinds. Holgirlubuttski, was he really Fozzie or was he fuzzy from BALL hair on his arse wall rubbed ALL bear until there was nothing at all there?
@@holgerlubotzki3469He seems very embarrassed at accidentally letting on he knows a bit too much about some of the things he is obsessed about.
Repent. Believe in Jesus for salvation and be born again, becoming a new person in this life - Luke 24:47, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV
That sounds mental. You might want to talk to a professional 😂
nay nay
what if i need salvation from jesus?
that lunatic threatens to torture me forever because he couldn't give me enough reason to believe he exists.
if he really exists he's kind of a prick to be honest.
God warns us not to trust in man
Jer 17:5 SGV
As for all we know, you are an agent of Satan!
God bless The Atheist Experience 🙏
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Trolling Jebus again. Now, lets be nice people.
Hes right he has alotta time! Therefore god of the gabz🎉🎉
How long is a piece of string? 🧶❓️⚛️
Most spools will tell you when you purchase the string
@@HolgerLubotzki Correct as in, total length of string per spool... But how many "pieces" of string per spool, is there? 🤔
@wayneharrison One. You only have the illusion that it's separated when you cut it. When it's interwoven onto a fabric it is still a whole How whole is a pie? Lol!
@@HolgerLubotzki How many "pieces" of spool/spools string, makes an interwoven fabric? Checkmate ♟🤣
How long is a piece of string? Exactly twice the length from the center to either end.